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Around last week when I first got my carrier locked Xperia PLAY, I purchased a network unlock code which I was able to unlock it with. So, then I flashed it with the UK Generic .184 FTF file with FlashTool to get rid of all the junk that my carrier included with it and rooted it using the GingerBreak APK.
Now, my question is, since I've network unlocked my PLAY, completely debranded it and rooted it, would I be able to unlock my bootloader now? From what I've read, since my device was originally locked from my carrier, that it never had Fastboot installed on it, which is needed to unlock my bootloader. But I also read that being able to unlock the bootloader on my Xperia PLAY shouldn't even matter because it's already set to S=OFF. Could someone please enlighten me on this?
You can't unlock your bootloader with the current method, it depends on two things: can your phone connect with fastboot when in bootloader mode AND is your IMEI number registered with SE to get the required unlockcode.
No you can only unlock GSM phones ie sim fee none network locked ones, unlocking the sim carrier wont count sadly
svenk919 said:
You can't unlock your bootloader with the current method, it depends on two things: can your phone connect with fastboot when in bootloader mode AND is your IMEI number registered with SE to get the required unlockcode.
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Yes, I went to their How-To page on the SE Developer's site and was able to get an unlock code by providing my IMEI and other info. When I try to detect it with Fastboot and my PLAY in bootloader mode, Fastboot just hangs at <waiting for device>.
waz000000 said:
No you can only unlock GSM phones ie sim fee none network locked ones, unlocking the sim carrier wont count sadly
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Cool, thanks for confirming that!
But does it even matter if I'm able to unlock my bootloader? Because I've read somewhere that the PLAY's are set to S=OFF.
From my understanding an unlocked bootloader is necessary for costum roms, if you're content with root and themes unlocking the bootloader won't be that important to you I guess.
I'm pretty content with being able to install custom themes with it only rooted. But I want to be able to overclock it, and that involves flashing a custom kernel to be able to do so, correct?
Flava0ne said:
I'm pretty content with being able to install custom themes with it only rooted. But I want to be able to overclock it, and that involves flashing a custom kernel to be able to do so, correct?
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afraid so (as it stands atm) there probably will be a way to flash without an unlock at some point though.
The new Device Protection features of Android 5.1 on the Nexus 9 and Nexus 6 can, in certain cases, cause you to have a bootloader which can not be unlocked.
Please have a read of the following links:
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6172890?hl=en
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/update-to-5-1-lock-bootloader-t3058480
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/relock-bootloader-time-updating-to-5-1-t3053497
What a pita
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i would never relock my bootloader
people unlock there bootloader for a reason
but to relock it after thats just wrong...
thats one of the things i hate about CM
they recommend you to relock your bootloader...
Agreed, why would you lock your bootloader unless sending in for repairs maybe?
But Google is really messing up the flow. The nexus 6 5.1 OTA is a mess right now but I will leave that for another thread.
Android 5.1 for Nexus 9? You must be joking.
So, I just purchased a Nexus 9 via the 4-hour online-only sale at Best Buy. It was $100 off, couldn't pass it up. My question is: is this likely going to be shipped in such a condition as to prevent me from permanently unlocking the bootloader? Or is a permanent lock something one must deliberately do?
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So, I just purchased a Nexus 9 via the 4-hour online-only sale at Best Buy. It was $100 off, couldn't pass it up. My question is: is this likely going to be shipped in such a condition as to prevent me from permanently unlocking the bootloader? Or is a permanent lock something one must deliberately do?
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No no you can still unlock it
But if you relock it that's the problem
disturbd1 said:
So, I just purchased a Nexus 9 via the 4-hour online-only sale at Best Buy. It was $100 off, couldn't pass it up. My question is: is this likely going to be shipped in such a condition as to prevent me from permanently unlocking the bootloader? Or is a permanent lock something one must deliberately do?
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As USBhost said, you'll be able to unlock it. However, when you are first setting it up and are running through the set-up wizard, there will be an option to "Protect Device" or something like that. If you enable it, and re-lock the bootloader, it will put you in a situation where you can only unlock the booloader in certain situations -- and if you happen to have a bootloop with a locked bootloader, that's when you are in trouble.
EDIT: On Nexus devices, I personally unlock the bootloader as soon as I take it out of the box, without first booting into Android, and then leave it unlocked. But of course, you give up some security by doing that.
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As USBhost said, you'll be able to unlock it. However, when you are first setting it up and are running through the set-up wizard, there will be an option to "Protect Device" or something like that. If you enable it, and re-lock the bootloader, it will put you in a situation where you can only unlock the booloader in certain situations -- and if you happen to have a bootloop with a locked bootloader, that's when you are in trouble.
EDIT: On Nexus devices, I personally unlock the bootloader as soon as I take it out of the box, without first booting into Android, and then leave it unlocked. But of course, you give up some security by doing that.
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Considering this is a tablet, hopefully I won't lose or misplace it
Thanks, guys! Glad I stumbled across this thread before the thing arrived.
Locking the bootloader doesn't protect you from anything. If the device leaves your physical control in a potentially hostile environment, whatever is on the system or boot partition becomes suspect, regardless of whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked.
doitright said:
Locking the bootloader doesn't protect you from anything. If the device leaves your physical control in a potentially hostile environment, whatever is on the system or boot partition becomes suspect, regardless of whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked.
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Example: I have a device running a stock ROM with no encryption, the stock recovery and a lock screen password. I happen to lose my phone. What happens to the photos of me dancing to Old Time Rock & Roll in my underwear that are stored on the device? If the bootloader is unlocked, someone just plugs it into a PC, boots TWRP and pulls them off. If the bootloader is locked, there is no easy way to see or get the photos off the device.
That is all I was saying about security. Nothing to do with you leaving your device somewhere or losing it, and then finding it again. Strictly about the personal content on the device.
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EDIT: On Nexus devices, I personally unlock the bootloader as soon as I take it out of the box, without first booting into Android, and then leave it unlocked. But of course, you give up some security by doing that.
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I thought Lollipop always requires you to go in and check the Enable OEM Unlock box? Or is that not true if you never booted into Android even once?
bailyc said:
I thought Lollipop always requires you to go in and check the Enable OEM Unlock box? Or is that not true if you never booted into Android even once?
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If you have never booted into Android, then you don't need to check that setting. As I said, that's the way I did it on my N6: take out of box -> charge -> boot directly into bootloader -> "fastboot oem unlock". No other steps required if you don't boot into Android first.
can i use this guide for safely relock my Bl on Nexus 9 ..... Relocking coz of RMA and warranty purpose as bought from amazon India instead of Play Store
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-safely-lock-bootloader-android-5-1-t3067302
lilliput222 said:
can i use this guide for safely relock my Bl on Nexus 9 ..... Relocking coz of RMA and warranty purpose as bought from amazon India instead of Play Store
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-safely-lock-bootloader-android-5-1-t3067302
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Yes, that should work for the N9 as well.
The bootloader on my Nexus 9 Android 5.1.1 is locked forever due to my mistake
Short backstory:
- I wanted to install the Android M developer Preview for the Nexus 9 but I forgot to check "Enable OEM unlock" in developer options (worst mistake).
- I used adb command to flash the new image but failed somehow
- I carelessly type # fastboot oem lock
- I tried to factory reset from bootloader to bring it back to Stock. Now it couldn't factory reset and my Nexus 9 hangs in a nice boot loop.
- I try # fastboot oem unlock but failed with permission denied error
I tried some ways to save my device but no hopes
- I used Nexus Root Tookit to unlock bootloader or restore image with force mode but failed,
- I follow instruction in HTC dev forum to get identifier token in order to receive your unlock code binary file but failed
- Unluckily, I don't installed any custom recovery.
Please help if you know a way unlock the bootloader or flash the factory ROM to save the nexus 9
quekl84 said:
Please help if you know a way unlock the bootloader or flash the factory ROM to save the nexus 9
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Not possible. You will have to return it to HTC for repair or replacement.
quekl84 said:
Short backstory:
- I wanted to install the Android M developer Preview for the Nexus 9 but I forgot to uncheck "Enable OEM unlock" in developer options (worst mistake).
- I used adb command to flash the new image but failed somehow
- I carelessly type # fastboot oem lock
- I tried to factory reset from bootloader to bring it back to Stock. Now it couldn't factory reset and my Nexus 9 hangs in a nice boot loop.
- I try # fastboot oem unlock but failed with permission denied error
I tried some ways to save my device but no hopes
- I used Nexus Root Tookit to unlock bootloader or restore image with force mode but failed,
- I follow instruction in HTC dev forum to get identifier token in order to receive your unlock code binary file but failed
- Unluckily, I don't installed any custom recovery.
Please help if you know a way unlock the bootloader or flash the factory ROM to save the nexus 9
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u mean u forgot to CHECK to box to allow oem UNLOCK? im confused lol
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u mean u forgot to CHECK to box to allow oem UNLOCK? im confused lol
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Yes, I forgot to check the box to allow oem UNLOCK. And now my device is locked forever.
A quick question: A lot of N9 ROMs require flashing an updated bootloader from the factory image. Aren't these bootloaders locked by default? Can we flash a factory bootloader over a custom ROM?
It seems that we might bork our Nexus 9s if we flash a locked bootloader in.
Hi Guys
I have 3 questions regarding Moto X Style Bootloader unlocking.
Can we unlock the Moto X Style bootloader after locking it after first unlock?
Can this process be repeated multiple times if we need to?
Can we use the same unique unlock key that we received while unlocking the bootloader for the first time?
Thank you
Why would you want to do this?
psandeepn said:
Hi Guys
I have 3 questions regarding Moto X Style Bootloader unlocking.
Can we unlock the Moto X Style bootloader after locking it after first unlock?
Can this process be repeated multiple times if we need to?
Can we use the same unique unlock key that we received while unlocking the bootloader for the first time?
Thank you
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Yes you can do it as many times as you want but 1: Why would you relock afterwards 2: You will have to deal with a factory reset every time
PS: I dont know about the unlock key but most likely you can use the same
Is there any way to remove the Bootloader unlock warning ⚠ without relocking bootloader?
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psandeepn said:
Hi Guys
I have 3 questions regarding Moto X Style Bootloader unlocking.
Can we unlock the Moto X Style bootloader after locking it after first unlock?
Can this process be repeated multiple times if we need to?
Can we use the same unique unlock key that we received while unlocking the bootloader for the first time?
Thank you
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Theres no reason really to relock it. Once its unlocked, the bootloader will show that it was unlocked regardless if you relock it.
atishey23 said:
Is there any way to remove the Bootloader unlock warning without relocking bootloader?
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Yes
Pyramid Head said:
Yes you can do it as many times as you want but 1: Why would you relock afterwards 2: You will have to deal with a factory reset every time
PS: I dont know about the unlock key but most likely you can use the same
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Thanks for your reply.
The reason for attempting to re-lock bootloader is to get the OTA update from Motorola till date, especially Reliance Jio VoLTE support...But if I wish to make any further changes to my phone with any custom rom I should be able to do it by unlocking the bootloader again.
Thanks
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Thanks for your reply.
The reason for attempting to re-lock bootloader is to get the OTA update from Motorola till date, especially Reliance Jio VoLTE support...But if I wish to make any further changes to my phone with any custom rom I should be able to do it by unlocking the bootloader again.
Thanks
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You don't have to lock the bootloader to take an OTA. You just need to be in a completely unmodified stock state: stock recovery, unmodified system, no root, etc. Bootloader can be unlocked.
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You don't have to lock the bootloader to take an OTA. You just need to be in a completely unmodified stock state: stock recovery, unmodified system, no root, etc. Bootloader can be unlocked.
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Thanks for your reply.
I have unlocked bootloader, TWRP recovery and rooted. If I unroot and flash stock recovery, I will be able to get OTA? Do I need to take care of anything else?
psandeepn said:
Thanks for your reply.
I have unlocked bootloader, TWRP recovery and rooted. If I unroot and flash stock recovery, I will be able to get OTA? Do I need to take care of anything else?
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That might work. Frankly I'm not sure. I haven't actually taken successfully an OTA on any phone since sometime in 2013 honestly.
I once flashed this phone totally back to stock. Every partition but logo, and it failed to take an OTA. I don't know if it failed because I had a modified logo, or maybe I had mounted system r/w. Not sure.
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable on this topic will chime in.
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Thanks for your reply.
I have unlocked bootloader, TWRP recovery and rooted. If I unroot and flash stock recovery, I will be able to get OTA? Do I need to take care of anything else?
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The answer is maybe... it depends what you have changed and what this OTA updater script actually checks for.
We know that a stock bootloader (which can be unlocked, that is not relevant), stock recovery, and stock system image are required to take an OTA. If the system image has been modified it can fail, and we know the updater has the ability to see if /system has EVER been mounted R/W and can fail for that condition although so far it doesn't seem Moto is going that extreme.
We do know a modified logo does not affect an OTA, in fact, you can even relock the bootloader with a modified logo so it must not be a significant check.
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That might work. Frankly I'm not sure. I haven't actually taken successfully an OTA on any phone since sometime in 2013 honestly.
I once flashed this phone totally back to stock. Every partition but logo, and it failed to take an OTA. I don't know if it failed because I had a modified logo, or maybe I had mounted system r/w. Not sure.
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable on this topic will chime in.
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On my father's moto e lte I received OTA without issue with unlocked bootloader, I just flashed stock image and it was ready to update, btw I'm not sure but I've seen somewhere info that you can change bootlogo even with locked bootloader so I don't think that's the issue.
Btw after you once unlock bootloader you won't be able to truly lock it again, next time you will be able to unlock it without any code so you lose some security in this process, frp won't be working anymore.
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On my father's moto e lte I received OTA without issue with unlocked bootloader, I just flashed stock image and it was ready to update, btw I'm not sure but I've seen somewhere info that you can change bootlogo even with locked bootloader so I don't think that's the issue.
Btw after you once unlock bootloader you won't be able to truly lock it again, next time you will be able to unlock it without any code so you lose some security in this process, frp won't be working anymore.
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You still need code to unlock each time, but it's the same code, and if you relock OEM Unlocking gets turned off and you would have to turn it on again... So if something fails on the first boot after relocking, your f*cked, no way to unlock.
And FRP definitely works if the bootloader is unlocked, it is just much easier to bypass.
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You still need code to unlock each time, but it's the same code, and if you relock OEM Unlocking gets turned off and you would have to turn it on again... So if something fails on the first boot after relocking, your f*cked, no way to unlock.
And FRP definitely works if the bootloader is unlocked, it is just much easier to bypass.
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You're right sorry
I'm getting a 6p for Christmas and I have a question.
Say the 6p is on Marshmallow, and I decide to unlock the bootloader (just that, no root or anything) on MM. Will I be able to update to 7.1.1 via ota (no I don't want to sideload or flash) without issues? Or is there a process to it like updating bootloader, vendor, radio or whatever else. Or does the Ota file contain the updated boot.img and vendor etc.
ricbaez said:
I'm getting a 6p for Christmas and I have a question.
Say the 6p is on Marshmallow, and I decide to unlock the bootloader (just that, no root or anything) on MM. Will I be able to update to 7.1.1 via ota (no I don't want to sideload or flash) without issues? Or is there a process to it like updating bootloader, vendor, radio or whatever else. Or does the Ota file contain the updated boot.img and vendor etc.
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Yes, you can unlock then update via OTA. OTAs patch every partition permitted there are no modifications done to system and boot.
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ricbaez said:
I'm getting a 6p for Christmas and I have a question.
Say the 6p is on Marshmallow, and I decide to unlock the bootloader (just that, no root or anything) on MM. Will I be able to update to 7.1.1 via ota (no I don't want to sideload or flash) without issues? Or is there a process to it like updating bootloader, vendor, radio or whatever else. Or does the Ota file contain the updated boot.img and vendor etc.
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Why would you want to unlock the bootloader if you don't intend to root or install a custom recovery? I don't understand what the benefit is.
jhs39 said:
Why would you want to unlock the bootloader if you don't intend to root or install a custom recovery? I don't understand what the benefit is.
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I actually intend to install megapixel rom
jhs39 said:
Why would you want to unlock the bootloader if you don't intend to root or install a custom recovery? I don't understand what the benefit is.
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@ricbaez
No disrespect, but I would say why would you NOT unlock the bootloader on a Nexus? Especially when you first get the phone because unlocking wipes it. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to use MANY more tools in the event your phone boot loops or becomes unresponsive. There are dozens of threads where people are completely screwed because they did NOT unlock the bootloader and so cannot salvage their device with ADB/Fastboot. If you bought a Nexus, one of the selling points is that Google ALLOWS the owner to unlock the bootloader right in the Dev Options! Even if the OP is not going to root or install a custom recovery, if he/she does not unlock the bootloader, they are going to be S.O.L. if the phone won't boot. There are many examples of this since Google has gone to the monthly security OTA's and updates. Or... simply put, if you are unlocked you can flash full Google images and use ADB/Fastboot. If you are locked, you can only sideload an OTA with the stock recovery and that hasn't been working out well for so many people here on XDA.
To the OP. Recommend you unlock your bootloader first thing which will wipe the phone and start you out fresh. Unlocking the bootloader will not prevent you from receiving OTA's. Make sure your Google login works properly. Login. Logout. Login. Then do whatever the F you want with your phone, knowing you will have serious options to recover in the event things go south for any reason. Next would be installing TWRP. Good luck!
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@ricbaez
No disrespect, but I would say why would you NOT unlock the bootloader on a Nexus? Especially when you first get the phone because unlocking wipes it. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to use MANY more tools in the event your phone boot loops or becomes unresponsive. There are dozens of threads where people are completely screwed because they did NOT unlock the bootloader and so cannot salvage their device with ADB/Fastboot. If you bought a Nexus, one of the selling points is that Google ALLOWS the owner to unlock the bootloader right in the Dev Options! Even if the OP is not going to root or install a custom recovery, if he/she does not unlock the bootloader, they are going to be S.O.L. if the phone won't boot. There are many examples of this since Google has gone to the monthly security OTA's and updates. Or... simply put, if you are unlocked you can flash full Google images and use ADB/Fastboot. If you are locked, you can only sideload an OTA with the stock recovery and that hasn't been working out well for so many people here on XDA.
To the OP. Recommend you unlock your bootloader first thing which will wipe the phone and start you out fresh. Unlocking the bootloader will not prevent you from receiving OTA's. Make sure your Google login works properly. Login. Logout. Login. Then do whatever the F you want with your phone, knowing you will have serious options to recover in the event things go south for any reason. Next would be installing TWRP. Good luck!
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You are right. I wasn't aware that people were having boot loop issues on phones running stock Android but that apparently is the case. But as long as USB Debugging and Allow OEM Unlock are ticked in the developer options you should be able to unlock the bootloader later through ADB if you need to. I assumed the warning about my phone being insecure since my bootloader is unlocked that pops up every time I boot was there for a reason. There is no security issue created by unlocking your bootloader?
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You are right. I wasn't aware that people were having boot loop issues on phones running stock Android but that apparently is the case. But as long as USB Debugging and Allow OEM Unlock are ticked in the developer options you should be able to unlock the bootloader later through ADB if you need to. I assumed the warning about my phone being insecure since my bootloader is unlocked that pops up every time I boot was there for a reason. There is no security issue created by unlocking your bootloader?
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It's cool, and I respect your decision to stay locked if you decide that is best for you. I suppose you could set Allow OEM unlock in Dev settings AND USB debugging in USB just in case, but if for some reason you could not boot, unlocking bootloader would then wipe userdata and your backups would be gone before you could transfer them off. In the end it's up to the individual to choose security vs, recoverability. Many ppl are getting locked out of their phones in the interest of security (or just the default settings). As it turns out, they were just trying to perform a monthly security update and hosed their phone. Stock rom, stock recovery, unrooted. Every Nexus phone I've owned (Galaxy?) has been unlocked so that I could use all the tools available to get myself out of a bind if needed. I don't give a sh!t about the boot up warning, because I know that my nandroid and FF backups can get me back home in the event of a lockup. Unlocking will not stop you from receiving OTA's if you are stock. Even if you are not, unlocking will allow you to use ADB, custom recoveries, toolkits, etc. If you end up in a bootloop and your bootloader is locked you are S.O.L. plain and simple. Each to their own though... if you need encryption and value high security of your data over recoverability then you may want to stay bootloader locked. As owners of a Nexus phone we have that option. Many others do not. Cheers my friend!
Thank you guys everything was successful, unlocked it in no time, downloaded 7.1.1 and it's perfect. NOw time to flash twrp and MegaPixel Rom
Anyone one know if it is possible to get security off on ph-1?
I am thinking of maybe secure boot maybe.
I would like to relock bootloader with custom O/S.
Sorry it has been a long time since working on new device. Dual partitions, fastboot flashing unlock_critical, felt lost there for a bit. boot loops, no touch in twrp.
stupidis said:
Anyone one know if it is possible to get security off on ph-1?
I am thinking of maybe secure boot maybe.
I would like to relock bootloader with custom O/S.
Sorry it has been a long time since working on new device. Dual partitions, fastboot flashing unlock_critical, felt lost there for a bit. boot loops, no touch in twrp.
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S-Off = unlock_critical...
DO NOT RELOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER UNLESS ON STOCK STOCK STOCK...
YOU
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S-Off = unlock_critical...
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if unlock critical = s-off then I would be able to relock my bootloader with whatever software was on the device. at least that was the way it was years ago when I started with android on the HTC one-s (At least that is what I remember - getting old
The question I am getting at here -- I want to relock the bootloader with custom firmware on the device.
This is my device I should be able to replace security controls after I make changes relocking the bootloader would help with that - besides I have clients that do not understand physical security.
So what would it take to get a phone where I can make the software changes I want to make and then relock the bootloader?
What follows is possibly useless information:
I need to figure out how to do hide content button that way I can put useless info in, but hide it with a button
HTC One-s now that was a learing curve, root, s-off, super CID, custom radios, etc, all command line and hexeditors etc - I did mine before all the tools came out to do these things for devices. Fun fun
And thank you! let me reiterate.
DO NOT RELOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER UNLESS ON STOCK STOCK STOCK...