[Q] Need Confirmation Please - Xperia Play General

Around last week when I first got my carrier locked Xperia PLAY, I purchased a network unlock code which I was able to unlock it with. So, then I flashed it with the UK Generic .184 FTF file with FlashTool to get rid of all the junk that my carrier included with it and rooted it using the GingerBreak APK.
Now, my question is, since I've network unlocked my PLAY, completely debranded it and rooted it, would I be able to unlock my bootloader now? From what I've read, since my device was originally locked from my carrier, that it never had Fastboot installed on it, which is needed to unlock my bootloader. But I also read that being able to unlock the bootloader on my Xperia PLAY shouldn't even matter because it's already set to S=OFF. Could someone please enlighten me on this?

You can't unlock your bootloader with the current method, it depends on two things: can your phone connect with fastboot when in bootloader mode AND is your IMEI number registered with SE to get the required unlockcode.

No you can only unlock GSM phones ie sim fee none network locked ones, unlocking the sim carrier wont count sadly

svenk919 said:
You can't unlock your bootloader with the current method, it depends on two things: can your phone connect with fastboot when in bootloader mode AND is your IMEI number registered with SE to get the required unlockcode.
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Yes, I went to their How-To page on the SE Developer's site and was able to get an unlock code by providing my IMEI and other info. When I try to detect it with Fastboot and my PLAY in bootloader mode, Fastboot just hangs at <waiting for device>.
waz000000 said:
No you can only unlock GSM phones ie sim fee none network locked ones, unlocking the sim carrier wont count sadly
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Cool, thanks for confirming that!
But does it even matter if I'm able to unlock my bootloader? Because I've read somewhere that the PLAY's are set to S=OFF.

From my understanding an unlocked bootloader is necessary for costum roms, if you're content with root and themes unlocking the bootloader won't be that important to you I guess.

I'm pretty content with being able to install custom themes with it only rooted. But I want to be able to overclock it, and that involves flashing a custom kernel to be able to do so, correct?

Flava0ne said:
I'm pretty content with being able to install custom themes with it only rooted. But I want to be able to overclock it, and that involves flashing a custom kernel to be able to do so, correct?
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afraid so (as it stands atm) there probably will be a way to flash without an unlock at some point though.

Related

Bootloader Unlock Tip

Hey All,
I've seen some posts stating that the bootloader for this phone can't be unlocked.
I'm using the E6533 model and wanted to confirm that it is possible.
Just go to this website: http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/ (the official sony one)
Select Xperia Z3 as the model (I know we have the Z4/Z3+ but it still works). Enter your email and click the link they email you.
Insert the IMEI number and they will give you the unlock code. then just run
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot oem unlock <code>
and it will work.
As a note this WILL wipe your device, so backup anything you may need on it.
Hopefully with this we can get root / twrp built
So TA backup is needed to keep the DRM keys before unlocking the bootloader. Is there a way to back up TA of non-rooted devices? Flashtool doesn't fully support Z3+ yet.
help
Quick question , what to do if you have Unlock allowed: No?
Generally speaking this always meant just what it says... That it's not possible to unlock the bootloader. This was often the case with oem phones. Today it could also mean you have myxperia security activated. If you have log out of that and try again.
Oh and do not activate it after unlocking bootloader, you could brick your device for good!
3lastic said:
Quick question , what to do if you have Unlock allowed: No?
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Make sure you don't have the xperia security software enabled (the find my iPhone equivalent)
It prevents the bootloader from being unlocked. Otherwise it means your carrier disabled the feature
Thanks diemadedrei and ChrisJ951.
It worked, it was the Xperia Security software that was enabled.
Rooting status: unknown
Hello, i tried to unlock my BL from the sony website, but after i flashed the code in my phone, it just restored and now just says rooting status: unknown and also the option of unlock allowed does not even appear! anybody could please help me?
thanks and hello from Mexico!
The z3+ is now selectable on the unlock page officially
@bryantronics: it should say bootloader unlocked yes under rooting status. Generally it should have worked if everything went as described.
diemadedrei said:
The z3+ is now selectable on the unlock page officially
@bryantronics: it should say bootloader unlocked yes under rooting status. Generally it should have worked if everything went as described.
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hello! thanks for the reply, the bootloader said yes... but that line doesnt appear! it just says rooting status unknown, i tried to upload the screenshot but i dont know how to do it
3lastic said:
Thanks diemadedrei and ChrisJ951.
It worked, it was the Xperia Security software that was enabled.
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Thanks to all, I have tried to change it to "YES" 24 hours
OK so with this recent tidbit of data that a bootloader unlock no could become a yes I am concerned. When I bought the phone it said yes. But no where can I figure out if the DRM keys are a)original b)intact c) working with this present rom. Could anyone tell me so I can be sure that if I resell this item I don't misrepresent this information.
haist i have a same problem for that issue ...until now i can not flash boot img...please resolve this problem...guys plssssss......
i have the same problem i cant flash img due to remoted lock state: unlocked
any updates?
I am suffering the same problems as my colleagues in the previous posts. I cannot get the bootloader unlock, no matter how hard I try:
performed the official Sony way (using minimal adb and fastboot; phone is listed in fastboot devices; "remote: command not allowed")
flashtool64: both with blu manually and by leaving the text file in the registered devices folder (which was found and used for a unlock, which turned out not to be successful).
Sony MyDevices is not activated. Android 5.0.2 (E6533; 28 0 A 8 272 HK)
Do you have any further tips how to open the bootloader?
thx, Benedikt
ChrisJ951 said:
Hey All,
I've seen some posts stating that the bootloader for this phone can't be unlocked.
I'm using the E6533 model and wanted to confirm that it is possible.
Just go to this website: http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/ (the official sony one)
Select Xperia Z3 as the model (I know we have the Z4/Z3+ but it still works). Enter your email and click the link they email you.
Insert the IMEI number and they will give you the unlock code. then just run
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot oem unlock <code>
and it will work.
As a note this WILL wipe your device, so backup anything you may need on it.
Hopefully with this we can get root / twrp built
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Thanks for the tip but how I can back up TA Partition? Can you help me about that? And I am using latest Nougat Single Variant E6553, your tip will work with nougat?
I tried this Sony method but showing remote cammand not allow please help
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I trying same methods but showing remote command not allowed
hi
How long does it take to unlock ? the bootloader. I've waited for long.
Unlock bootloader NO
Any solution
i was crashing my head to do it and nothing to it done, and I discovered that the problem was that my xperia was enabled, so I disabled it and finally unlocked the bootloader
I had bootloader unlock allowed: no on latest firmware. I backed to Android 6 a I have bootloader unlock allowed: yes

Unlock/Lock Moto X Style Bootloader Multiple Times?

Hi Guys
I have 3 questions regarding Moto X Style Bootloader unlocking.
Can we unlock the Moto X Style bootloader after locking it after first unlock?
Can this process be repeated multiple times if we need to?
Can we use the same unique unlock key that we received while unlocking the bootloader for the first time?
Thank you
Why would you want to do this?
psandeepn said:
Hi Guys
I have 3 questions regarding Moto X Style Bootloader unlocking.
Can we unlock the Moto X Style bootloader after locking it after first unlock?
Can this process be repeated multiple times if we need to?
Can we use the same unique unlock key that we received while unlocking the bootloader for the first time?
Thank you
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Yes you can do it as many times as you want but 1: Why would you relock afterwards 2: You will have to deal with a factory reset every time
PS: I dont know about the unlock key but most likely you can use the same
Is there any way to remove the Bootloader unlock warning ⚠ without relocking bootloader?
Sent from my XT1572 using Tapatalk
psandeepn said:
Hi Guys
I have 3 questions regarding Moto X Style Bootloader unlocking.
Can we unlock the Moto X Style bootloader after locking it after first unlock?
Can this process be repeated multiple times if we need to?
Can we use the same unique unlock key that we received while unlocking the bootloader for the first time?
Thank you
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Theres no reason really to relock it. Once its unlocked, the bootloader will show that it was unlocked regardless if you relock it.
atishey23 said:
Is there any way to remove the Bootloader unlock warning without relocking bootloader?
Sent from my XT1572 using Tapatalk
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Yes
Pyramid Head said:
Yes you can do it as many times as you want but 1: Why would you relock afterwards 2: You will have to deal with a factory reset every time
PS: I dont know about the unlock key but most likely you can use the same
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Thanks for your reply.
The reason for attempting to re-lock bootloader is to get the OTA update from Motorola till date, especially Reliance Jio VoLTE support...But if I wish to make any further changes to my phone with any custom rom I should be able to do it by unlocking the bootloader again.
Thanks
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Thanks for your reply.
The reason for attempting to re-lock bootloader is to get the OTA update from Motorola till date, especially Reliance Jio VoLTE support...But if I wish to make any further changes to my phone with any custom rom I should be able to do it by unlocking the bootloader again.
Thanks
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You don't have to lock the bootloader to take an OTA. You just need to be in a completely unmodified stock state: stock recovery, unmodified system, no root, etc. Bootloader can be unlocked.
jason2678 said:
You don't have to lock the bootloader to take an OTA. You just need to be in a completely unmodified stock state: stock recovery, unmodified system, no root, etc. Bootloader can be unlocked.
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Thanks for your reply.
I have unlocked bootloader, TWRP recovery and rooted. If I unroot and flash stock recovery, I will be able to get OTA? Do I need to take care of anything else?
psandeepn said:
Thanks for your reply.
I have unlocked bootloader, TWRP recovery and rooted. If I unroot and flash stock recovery, I will be able to get OTA? Do I need to take care of anything else?
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That might work. Frankly I'm not sure. I haven't actually taken successfully an OTA on any phone since sometime in 2013 honestly.
I once flashed this phone totally back to stock. Every partition but logo, and it failed to take an OTA. I don't know if it failed because I had a modified logo, or maybe I had mounted system r/w. Not sure.
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable on this topic will chime in.
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Thanks for your reply.
I have unlocked bootloader, TWRP recovery and rooted. If I unroot and flash stock recovery, I will be able to get OTA? Do I need to take care of anything else?
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The answer is maybe... it depends what you have changed and what this OTA updater script actually checks for.
We know that a stock bootloader (which can be unlocked, that is not relevant), stock recovery, and stock system image are required to take an OTA. If the system image has been modified it can fail, and we know the updater has the ability to see if /system has EVER been mounted R/W and can fail for that condition although so far it doesn't seem Moto is going that extreme.
We do know a modified logo does not affect an OTA, in fact, you can even relock the bootloader with a modified logo so it must not be a significant check.
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That might work. Frankly I'm not sure. I haven't actually taken successfully an OTA on any phone since sometime in 2013 honestly.
I once flashed this phone totally back to stock. Every partition but logo, and it failed to take an OTA. I don't know if it failed because I had a modified logo, or maybe I had mounted system r/w. Not sure.
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable on this topic will chime in.
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On my father's moto e lte I received OTA without issue with unlocked bootloader, I just flashed stock image and it was ready to update, btw I'm not sure but I've seen somewhere info that you can change bootlogo even with locked bootloader so I don't think that's the issue.
Btw after you once unlock bootloader you won't be able to truly lock it again, next time you will be able to unlock it without any code so you lose some security in this process, frp won't be working anymore.
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On my father's moto e lte I received OTA without issue with unlocked bootloader, I just flashed stock image and it was ready to update, btw I'm not sure but I've seen somewhere info that you can change bootlogo even with locked bootloader so I don't think that's the issue.
Btw after you once unlock bootloader you won't be able to truly lock it again, next time you will be able to unlock it without any code so you lose some security in this process, frp won't be working anymore.
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You still need code to unlock each time, but it's the same code, and if you relock OEM Unlocking gets turned off and you would have to turn it on again... So if something fails on the first boot after relocking, your f*cked, no way to unlock.
And FRP definitely works if the bootloader is unlocked, it is just much easier to bypass.
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You still need code to unlock each time, but it's the same code, and if you relock OEM Unlocking gets turned off and you would have to turn it on again... So if something fails on the first boot after relocking, your f*cked, no way to unlock.
And FRP definitely works if the bootloader is unlocked, it is just much easier to bypass.
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You're right sorry

How can I downgrade my XC from N to MM without unlocking the BL?

Hi, I want to backup my TA/DRM key. However the "Universal (Dirtycow-based) TA Backup v2" seems not compatible with Android Nougat. It asked me to downgrade my device first. Is there a way to downgrade Xperia X Compact without unlocking it (or without losing the DRM key)? Thanks.
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Hi, I want to backup my TA/DRM key. However the "Universal (Dirtycow-based) TA Backup v2" seems not compatible with Android Nougat. It asked me to downgrade my device first. Is there a way to downgrade Xperia X Compact without unlocking it (or without losing the DRM key)? Thanks.
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Just use the flashtool, you don't need to be unlocked to flash firmware.
XperienceD said:
Just use the flashtool, you don't need to be unlocked to flash firmware.
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Thanks! Sucessfully downgrade to 6.0.1 and make a backup of the TA/DRM key just now.
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Just use the flashtool, you don't need to be unlocked to flash firmware.
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Another question. My phone is showing up "Bootloader unlock allowed: No" in the Service Menu. I've already turn on "OEM unlocking" and "USB debugging" (
authorized, and confirmed all the necessary drivers were installed).
The "Unlock your boot loader" site is saying that "It will only be possible to unlock the boot loader for certain releases." Does that means I should flash another firmware with differnt region or Android version? I've already tried to downgrade my phone to MM again, however the issue still exists. Thanks.
P.s. I am able to get the unlock code from the "Unlock your boot loader" site.
yjcbn said:
Another question. My phone is showing up "Bootloader unlock allowed: No" in the Service Menu. I've already turn on "OEM unlocking" and "USB debugging" (
authorized, and confirmed all the necessary drivers were installed).
The "Unlock your boot loader" site is saying that "It will only be possible to unlock the boot loader for certain releases." Does that means I should flash another firmware with differnt region or Android version? I've already tried to downgrade my phone to MM again, however the issue still exists. Thanks.
P.s. I am able to get the unlock code from the "Unlock your boot loader" site.
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If your phone says that is is NOT allowed... sorry, but it is not possible.
Even though Sony is happy for us to unlock the bootloader, if the carrier/operator (verizon, o2, virgin, etc) wants - these companies can ask Sony to stop the bootloader from being unlocked.
Sim lock is one thing... at least that can be removed. I have no idea why they would choose to prevent the bootloader from being unlocked.
Actually, maybe because in some countries the consumer laws are very good, so even if you root or something, your warranty still exists.
But if you cannot unlock the bl -> you can't root -> less device problems/bricks -> less money on repairs for the phone operator? (just an idea)
The first (used) Xperia X Compact I bought, it was carrier branded, and the bootloader was unable to be unlocked.
I talked to the shop owner, I chose the other device in stock, it was unbranded, I could unlock it
qvmuhuuxz said:
If your phone says that is is NOT allowed... sorry, but it is not possible.
Even though Sony is happy for us to unlock the bootloader, if the carrier/operator (verizon, o2, virgin, etc) wants - these companies can ask Sony to stop the bootloader from being unlocked.
Sim lock is one thing... at least that can be removed. I have no idea why they would choose to prevent the bootloader from being unlocked.
Actually, maybe because in some countries the consumer laws are very good, so even if you root or something, your warranty still exists.
But if you cannot unlock the bl -> you can't root -> less device problems/bricks -> less money on repairs for the phone operator? (just an idea)
The first (used) Xperia X Compact I bought, it was carrier branded, and the bootloader was unable to be unlocked.
I talked to the shop owner, I chose the other device in stock, it was unbranded, I could unlock it
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Thanks for your answer. Though it's a bad news for me. [emoji30]
Since it's impossible to unlock my device, can I just modify the FTF and flash it through the Flashtool? If it's possible, then how to modify the FTF file? I want to change the font into another.
yjcbn said:
Since it's impossible to unlock my device, can I just modify the FTF and flash it through the Flashtool?
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No. If you've still got time to return it do so now otherwise your modding is going to be limited.

Bootloader unlock without unlock code from Huawei

Is it possible to unlock the bootloader without the unlock code coming from Huawei itself?
I want to unlock the bootloader. Many pages on the web (and on this forum as well) say I need to get the unlock code from huawei, but... it seems that huawei is not collaborative any more: Honor/Huawei’s bootloader unlock page disappears with no explanation
Can I work it out without the code?
Actually, what I really want to do is...
Actually, what I really want to do is...: install a different firmware.
I'm a real noob in the world of modding & custom rom.
As far as I understand, unlocking bootloader is required in order to install a different ROM: is it right? or can I install it somehow even with bootloader locked? Also, can I root the P8 without unlocking the bootloader?
My P8 is on the latest firmware I recently received OTR from Huawei: GRA-L09C02B405. The phone is starting to have some problems: hight battery drenage, UI freezing and rebooting from time to time.
I'd like to install a previous version of Huawei official firmware, or different a custom ROM (I read about some of them in this forum: any suggestion?). But as far a I understand, unlocking bootloader is required, and it seems that without the code from Huawei I'm blocked
Ik zit met de zelfde vraag, ook mijn P8 kan ik niet unlocken website van Huawei met deze optie is verdwenen.
I have the same question, also my P8 I can't unlock Huawei's website with this option is gone.
You now have to contact Huawei and request it, providing IMEI, SN, Product Code, Model, and reason why you wish to unlock it.
Here is a link to contact the UK (most people say this is more successful than others) :- https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/contact-us/
Thanks @Sparkrite, I will try that way.
Can you help me also with my second post in this thread? I mean, do I have to unlock the bootloader in order to flash a custom rom and / or to root the phone?
ModNoob33 said:
Thanks @Sparkrite, I will try that way.
Can you help me also with my second post in this thread? I mean, do I have to unlock the bootloader in order to flash a custom rom and / or to root the phone?
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For both, yes, you need to unlock your phone. For rooting, you have to flash a new boot.img, and for a custom ROM you have to flash the system.img too.
Without the unlocked bootloader you are unable to flash the images /partitions
ModNoob33 said:
Thanks @Sparkrite, I will try that way.
Can you help me also with my second post in this thread? I mean, do I have to unlock the bootloader in order to flash a custom rom and / or to root the phone?
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For both NO, however it tends to be a bit easier if the bootloader is unlocked. Some third party rooting apps may or may not work, depending on what version OS you have installed, without changing the recovery partition.
However it is usually easier to root by flashing with TWRP etc. which necessitates an unlocked bootloader to allow you to flash the said recovery.img and then flashing SU.zip for example.
The same goes for flashing a system.img ( does not need an unlocked bootloader ) eg. use fastboot mode and an ADB shell or even DLOAD if it has the correct signatures. The caveat is that most if not all custom ROMs use a proprietary boot.img so an unlocked BL will be required in this case.
Hope that clears it up for you.
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For both NO, however it tends to be a bit easier if the bootloader is unlocked. Some third party rooting apps may or may not work, depending on what version OS you have installed, without changing the recovery partition.
However it is usually easier to root by flashing with TWRP etc. which necessitates an unlocked bootloader to allow you to flash the said recovery.img and then flashing SU.zip for example.
The same goes for flashing a system.img ( does not need an unlocked bootloader ) eg. use fastboot mode and an ADB shell or even DLOAD if it has the correct signatures. The caveat is that most if not all custom ROMs use a proprietary boot.img so an unlocked BL will be required in this case.
Hope that clears it up for you.
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Isn't it? Oh, damn, all time I thought it necessary to do this. Sorry
Sparkrite said:
For both NO, however it tends to be a bit easier if the bootloader is unlocked. Some third party rooting apps may or may not work, depending on what version OS you have installed, without changing the recovery partition.
However it is usually easier to root by flashing with TWRP etc. which necessitates an unlocked bootloader to allow you to flash the said recovery.img and then flashing SU.zip for example.
The same goes for flashing a system.img ( does not need an unlocked bootloader ) eg. use fastboot mode and an ADB shell or even DLOAD if it has the correct signatures. The caveat is that most if not all custom ROMs use a proprietary boot.img so an unlocked BL will be required in this case.
Hope that clears it up for you.
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I asked Huawei for the code, now I'm waiting for reply.
So, if I understand correctly, even without unlocking bootloader I should be able to flash a previous version of an official firmware, ain't it? I can consider that option if I don't get the code from Huawei
Thanks a lot, you are being really helpful
Bootloader unlocking is not needed for upgrading official firmware, unfortunately, normally it is a completely different matter when trying to downgrade .
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Bootloader unlocking is not needed for upgrading official firmware, unfortunately, normally it is a completely different matter when trying to downgrade .
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So, it seems that I really need Huawei help to do something more or less useful for me. They made something such a "unhackable" phone which can be hacked only with their support. And more or less every other vendor I assume.
Quite weird I think.
AFAIK Huawei are/were the only vendors that made it so easy to unlock the BL, esp. when their code generator was online.
Have you heard back from them yet, some people report getting the code within 12 hours ?
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AFAIK Huawei are/were the only vendors that made it so easy to unlock the BL, esp. when their code generator was online.
Have you heard back from them yet, some people report getting the code within 12 hours ?
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I got a first mail the day after I wrote, with them asking to add the reason for the code request.
This morning I answered them them that I wanted to play with root rights & custom rom, and that I was aware of the risks implied.
now (6 hours later) they sent me the code.
Quite a good support I'd say
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I got a first mail the day after I wrote, with them asking to add the reason for the code request.
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Yes indeed, the reason why, as I said in my first post, wonder why they're interested ?
Sparkrite said:
You now have to contact Huawei and request it, providing IMEI, SN, Product Code, Model, and reason why you wish to unlock it.
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Any way you have it now, I assume it worked OK.
The product id in a custom firmware is the same as de original firmware?
i use this method to see product id *#*#1357946#*#* but in a custom firmware,because i lost the code but only want to save it,try the unlock page but i dont get code only errors.
Cientista2018 said:
The product id in a custom firmware is the same as de original firmware?
i use this method to see product id *#*#1357946#*#* but in a custom firmware,because i lost the code but only want to save it,try the unlock page but i dont get code only errors.
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Try here for your product code :- www.imei24.com
well they dont give anymore codes for bootloader... my huawei p8 lite RIP
djokagg said:
well they dont give anymore codes for bootloader... my huawei p8 lite RIP
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u sure there's absolutely no way?
AcidCat said:
u sure there's absolutely no way?
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i'm struggling with the same issue. UK support doesn't want to give me the unlock code even if my P8Max is blocked on all google related stuff. I can't even get Google services
after the last OTA update ( DAV-703LC233B226 ) installed anymore. But still they persist that I should send back the unit ...
You can unlock your bootloaders by using DC Unlocker.

Look and unlock bootloader with official method

In other posts there is procedure , for device with bootloader unlocked with unofficial method, for look and unlook officially, but is confused and in other arguments.
Is possible have this post for this argument, with clear guide , because I think is important question.
This maybe procedure:
1. miflash to official China Beta rom first. Flash without relock.
1b. Download from PC VPN app, install on phone and set connection to China. Then you are able to active usb developer options
2. re-lock bootloader with official China Beta rom. Flash and relock.
3. unlock bootloader again with official China Beta rom. Need to tie up with Mi account and insert a SIM card. For me, need to wait for 720 hours before MM3 can be unlocked. I checked chinese miui forum. This apparently is a new requirement. One full month later. Gosh...
4. miflash to official Global rom and stop there.
5. Do not re-lock bootloader with official Global rom""
I don't try this procedure......
What's the point of looking the bootloader just to get it unlocked again after whatever hours waiting!?
Do you experience problems with the device being unlocked unofficialy? Or this is just another "good advice/info" coming from MIUI forums...
Be happy somebody already took care of that and enjoy the unlocked bootloader freedom you get.
nijel8 said:
What's the point of looking the bootloader just to get it unlocked again after whatever hours waiting!?
Do you experience problems with the device being unlocked unofficialy? Or this is just another "good advice/info" coming from MIUI forums...
Be happy somebody already took care of that and enjoy the unlocked bootloader freedom you get.
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The device comes unlocked but your Mi account has not permission to unlock this specific device because you never followed the official unlock procedure.
Xiaomi with its new policy does not let you use a Chinese version of a phone with a global rom and a locked bootloader. If you flash the global rom and for some reason the bootloader gets locked, your phone will stuck on the recovery with the following message "this miui version cannot be installed on this device", at this stage you must unlock the bootloader to be able to boot again, if the bootloader was unlocked officialy with you own account, you can use the mi unlock tool to unlock again and make the phone bootable, if the bootloader was unofficialy unlocked or unlocked by other account, in this case you can't unlock with the Mi unlock tool, you can't flash another rom since the bootloader is locked, you can't follow the official unlock procedure because you are stuck in recovery, the only solution is to use the test point method with EDL authorized account
Ok, I guess sounds reasonable for majority of the users.
But me personally? I could care less...
You can backup bootloader unlocked status and restore it if locked by accident...
panospc said:
The device comes unlocked but your Mi account has not permission to unlock this specific device because you never followed the official unlock procedure.
Xiaomi with its new policy does not let you use a Chinese version of a phone with a global rom and a locked bootloader. If you flash the global rom and for some reason the bootloader gets locked, your phone will stuck on the recovery with the following message "this miui version cannot be installed on this device", at this stage you must unlock the bootloader to be able to boot again, if the bootloader was unlocked officialy with you own account, you can use the mi unlock tool to unlock again and make the phone bootable, if the bootloader was unofficialy unlocked or unlocked by other account, in this case you can't unlock with the Mi unlock tool, you can't flash another rom since the bootloader is locked, you can't follow the official unlock procedure because you are stuck in recovery, the only solution is to use the test point method with EDL authorized account
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But the procedure in first post, work in unofficial unlocked bootloader ?
If yes, after I am able to install global fastboot ROM when will be available ?
lucaxxaa said:
But the procedure in first post, work in unofficial unlocked bootloader ?
If yes, after I am able to install global fastboot ROM when will be available ?
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My brother's Mi Max 3 came with unlocked bootloader, I just flashed china stable with clean and lock without problems.
I have seen some reports of bricked devices from people who tried to flash and lock, honestly, I do not know what went wrong in their case.
nijel8 said:
You can backup bootloader unlocked status and restore it if locked by accident...
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Does this involves EDL mode?
As far as I know, EDL mode is locked on newer xiaomi devices.
Check this thread for more info https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/98jr79/psa_a_potential_fix_for_flashing_in_edl_mode/
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Does this involves EDL mode?
As far as I know, EDL mode is locked on newer xiaomi devices.
Check this thread for more info https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/98jr79/psa_a_potential_fix_for_flashing_in_edl_mode/
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It requires either root or EDL or TWRP...
And no, EDL is not locked, it's not Xiaomi's feature to lock it, it's Qualcomm business... MiFlash is locked which is irrelevant... Who needs their stupid front end when you can use Qualcomm tools...
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Who needs their stupid front end when you can use Qualcomm tools...
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Quote from the link a gave you
Users have been experimenting with older versions of MiFlash as well as Qualcomm's official flashing tool QFIL, but to no avail, they couldn't flash in EDL because the programs could not bypass the requirement for authentication.
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Is this irrelevant?
panospc said:
Quote from the link a gave you
Is this irrelevant?
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Maybe, we are not talking QFIL and flashing roms here. Will let you know when I get my Max 3 and test it.
your help is highly appreciated
panospc said:
The device comes unlocked but your Mi account has not permission to unlock this specific device because you never followed the official unlock procedure.
Xiaomi with its new policy does not let you use a Chinese version of a phone with a global rom and a locked bootloader. If you flash the global rom and for some reason the bootloader gets locked, your phone will stuck on the recovery with the following message "this miui version cannot be installed on this device", at this stage you must unlock the bootloader to be able to boot again, if the bootloader was unlocked officialy with you own account, you can use the mi unlock tool to unlock again and make the phone bootable, if the bootloader was unofficialy unlocked or unlocked by other account, in this case you can't unlock with the Mi unlock tool, you can't flash another rom since the bootloader is locked, you can't follow the official unlock procedure because you are stuck in recovery, the only solution is to use the test point method with EDL authorized account
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that is exactly what just has happens with me few minutes ago.
I bought the MAX3 through Ali Express with "fake" global Rom, and open bootloader, however since the global ROM is officially released by Xiaomi so I was trying to flash it through XiaomiFalsh but, mistakenly, and unfortunately, I kept the tick mark on "clean all and lock" and now the phone is stuck on recovery, I called the service center of Xiaomi by they said since it is not officially announced in my country so it is not their baby and they asked me to contact the seller "who ali experess! no way!!"
guys who can help me to get out of this issue will be really appreciated, but keep in mind I'm not an expert.
awaiting your kindness
maherd said:
that is exactly what just has happens with me few minutes ago.
I bought the MAX3 through Ali Express with "fake" global Rom, and open bootloader, however since the global ROM is officially released by Xiaomi so I was trying to flash it through XiaomiFalsh but, mistakenly, and unfortunately, I kept the tick mark on "clean all and lock" and now the phone is stuck on recovery, I called the service center of Xiaomi by they said since it is not officially announced in my country so it is not their baby and they asked me to contact the seller "who ali experess! no way!!"
guys who can help me to get out of this issue will be really appreciated, but keep in mind I'm not an expert.
awaiting your kindness
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Apply for unlock bootloader here: https://en.miui.com/unlock/
Wait time is 720 hours. No other way around it. Sorry, buddy.
opasha said:
Apply for unlock bootloader here: https://en.miui.com/unlock/
Wait time is 720 hours. No other way around it. Sorry, buddy.
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There is no way to apply for unlock without a bootable phone, He must go to Developer options -> Mi Unlock status -> Add account and device but this is not possible because the phone is stuck in recovery.
The only solution right now is to use the test-point method to flash the chinese rom.
panospc said:
There is no way to apply for unlock without a bootable phone, He must go to Developer options -> Mi Unlock status -> Add account and device but this is not possible because the phone is stuck in recovery.
The only solution right now is to use the test-point method to flash the chinese rom.
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Someone I helped fastboot flash China 8.8.9 mistakenly did this and was able to boot. Is Global rom entirely different in this situation?
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Someone I helped fastboot flash China 8.8.9 mistakenly did this and was able to boot. Is Global rom entirely different in this situation?
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Yes, it's different
chinese device + global rom + locked bootloader = stuck in recovery
Check my previous post here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77574305&postcount=3
panospc said:
Yes, it's different
chinese device + global rom + locked bootloader = stuck in recovery
Check my previous post here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77574305&postcount=3
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Oh right, now I remember. This was that very big announcement. Completely forgot. Thanks for the reminder. Yes, then test point is the only option, unfortunately.
Again, this was why I urged people to steer clear of global and stick to Eu roms. More harm than good especially related to such situations (many new flashers accidentally locking bootloaders).
panospc said:
There is no way to apply for unlock without a bootable phone, He must go to Developer options -> Mi Unlock status -> Add account and device but this is not possible because the phone is stuck in recovery.
The only solution right now is to use the test-point method to flash the chinese rom.
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Thank you so much guys for your feedback, for now I have the flowing questions:
1- the phone is stuck in recovery mode, how I shutdown the phone.
2- If I wait for Xiaomi to launch MAX3 officially in y country do you think they will be able to help me even with charged service?
3- can any of you expert guys direct me to some useful link to see how do it use the test-point method.
4- If I succeeded to unlock the bootloader through the test-point method, is it mandatory to flash the Chinese version or I can flash global Rom and keep the bootloader unlocked.
thank you in advance for your time.
maherd said:
Thank you so much guys for your feedback, for now I have the flowing questions:
1- the phone is stuck in recovery mode, how I shutdown the phone.
2- If I wait for Xiaomi to launch MAX3 officially in y country do you think they will be able to help me even with charged service?
3- can any of you expert guys direct me to some useful link to see how do it use the test-point method.
4- If I succeeded to unlock the bootloader through the test-point method, is it mandatory to flash the global Rom and keep the bootloader unlocked.
thank you in advance for your time.
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1. Hold power and volume down until boots to fastboot mode, leave it and it should turn off automatically after few seconds.
3. You can find some information scattered to the following threads
https://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3667214
https://en.miui.com/thread-3765172-1-1.html
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/help/guess-somewhat-kinda-bricked-nitrogen-t3848922
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/help/help-mi-max-3-hard-bricked-anti-roll-t3834769
How to take apart Mi Max 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQhhbzQ6l2s (check from 0:00 to 3:00 minute)
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4. With the test-point method you can flash the chinese rom even if the bootloader is locked, after succesfully flashing the china rom you have to apply for official unlock, after getting the unlock permission you can flash global rom by leaving the bootloader unlocked.
XiaomiTool official page is proposing another solution but you need to wait for a global dev rom to be released and it is not guaranteed to work
If you get the message "this miui can't be installed on this device" and your device is bricked you might be able to recover it using xiaomiadb by first installing global developer and then installing china developer OF SAME VERSION (for example 8.8.16->8.8.16) using "xiaomiadb sideload_miui -otarom CurrentRom [ZIP_ROM_FILE]"
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hello all, if someone can help me, i have my mi max3 with locked bootloader.
now i dont have any rom on it so trying to load a rom but getting an error ERASE is not allowed in locked state
what rom can i flash on it ?
tried to unlock bootloader via the tool, it gets stuck at 50% cannot verify phone.
had the same problem, was able to recover it with the test point method and flashing chinese rom, and switching to english language.
the procedure is described here:
https://androidfilebox.com/tips/edl-test-point-mode-redmi-note-4x/
the installation process of the qualcom drivers is special.
you have to open te backcover, which is very special too, dont forget to the 2 mini screws at the usb port and the drawer on the side . search and look on youtube.
look further, where the testpoints are on the mi max3
follow strictly the procedure, load and double extract the chinese rom for the mi max 3.
It is real work, and real danger that you break something mechanical, one shoud have a calm hand and a lot of patience, but for me all went good and the phone spang to live again.
Another solution could be this, but I have no experience with it:
https://s-unlock.com/productsandservices/server

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