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I Don't Believe On The Motorola Promise About That Unlockable Bootloader

hi,
guys, I don't want to dishearten you but did you think a minute about the way motorola will unlock your bootloader in the future update??
as they will release an update.zip like in the past, I'm not really sure if they will include the unlockable bootloader inside it and, not sure also if an android update can flash a bootloader. So I am a little anxious for you guys, mine is already unlocked...

Its unlocked for ever
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Andrew149 said:
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you mean locked!? right? lol

Er, dude you really need to read a little bit more on Development forum D:...
Its already unlocked!
Cheers

tan G said:
hi,
guys, I don't want to dishearten you but did you think a minute about the way motorola will unlock your bootloader in the future update??
as they will release an update.zip like in the past, I'm not really sure if they will include the unlockable bootloader inside it and, not sure also if an android update can flash a bootloader. So I am a little anxious for you guys, mine is already unlocked...
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Moto said they are going to do it. They already dont it on the leaked future builds, not to mention the one Kenn is running which is an ATT GB. Not to mention this is the same way the did it on the Xoom. Theres nothing to worry about, its unlocked 4 ever.

lol - it's already done.

knigitz said:
lol - it's already done.
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His point is he thinks its going to be removed from the final build. He states he is already unlocked himself.

LOL Someone needs to read through the forums. Bootloader is unlocked already.

Agree with Jay ... some one needs to read the OP ^_^ LOL
I, maybe just optimistically, think they will. The backlash, *****ing, low sales, the fact they said they would, and the fact that we have it already all points, IMO, to them releasing it. Motorola exec. - "Well the kids already have it so lets release it and make us look good." If they are on our side, at least give us what we want, they sell more. DROID - ground breaking - unlockable - sold like hot cakes. ATRIX - ground breaking - locked - not so much
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Does it really matter? For those that actually want an unlocked bootloader, they can get it in the dev forum. For the average user who will still get the OTA update, they probably didn't care about the bootloader to begin with.

Yaotl said:
Does it really matter? For those that actually want an unlocked bootloader, they can get it in the dev forum. For the average user who will still get the OTA update, they probably didn't care about the bootloader to begin with.
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yup and average users will not probably bother coming to xda.
@OP
you are 2-3 months late regarding the creation of this topic.

madnav said:
yup and average users will not probably bother coming to xda.
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I'm guess i'm still an 'average user' when it comes to android, but this is where I came to become a superuser (pun intended). I don't think i'm ready to mess with the HK build yet, but I definitely plan to flash a few ROMs when the official unlocked GB update comes through. And if it gets yanked before the final release, hopefully i'll know enough by then to use kenneth's version, or if worst comes to worst, the HK build.

zoso28 said:
I'm guess i'm still an 'average user' when it comes to android, but this is where I came to become a superuser (pun intended). I don't think i'm ready to mess with the HK build yet, but I definitely plan to flash a few ROMs when the official unlocked GB update comes through. And if it gets yanked before the final release, hopefully i'll know enough by then to use kenneth's version, or if worst comes to worst, the HK build.
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It's not like the HKTW build is as unstable as the build TBH gave us. The only things that don't work is the front facing camera, and fingerprint sensor.
I just didn't restore from a backup, and you can fix the WebTop. So my phone is running fine, and it seems even more stable than FroYo (Besides the obvious bugs)

tan G said:
hi,
guys, I don't want to dishearten you but did you think a minute about the way motorola will unlock your bootloader in the future update??
as they will release an update.zip like in the past, I'm not really sure if they will include the unlockable bootloader inside it and, not sure also if an android update can flash a bootloader. So I am a little anxious for you guys, mine is already unlocked...
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It really dose not matter if thay include the unlockable bootloader in every update or not. As long as their is a way for it to be done. Thats all the matters. Really only the N1 could be unlocked without much of any hassle. You just needed to know what commands to run,
Once its unlocked. Its unlocked. Cant go back. And just because you flash back to 1.57 or 1.83 and it no longer says "Unlocked" at the top. It is. All you need to do is flash the pudding and it will put those little words back.

pmcnano said:
Er, dude you really need to read a little bit more on Development forum D:...
Its already unlocked!
Cheers
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this is not the case for other atrix versions than att

JayRolla said:
Moto said they are going to do it. They already dont it on the leaked future builds, not to mention the one Kenn is running which is an ATT GB. Not to mention this is the same way the did it on the Xoom. Theres nothing to worry about, its unlocked 4 ever.
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that build is a build for developer and developer devices, there is no garantee that it will be the same for user-end releases, anyway I really hope for all people that you're right.
the sbf used to unlock our phone now (att) has been packed by someone in the dev team may by eval or 2dc... or both

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His point is he thinks its going to be removed from the final build. He states he is already unlocked himself.
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thumbs up! that's what I said

I will always have an unlocked bootloader

tan G said:
thumbs up! that's what I said
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tang no matter what update motorola does in the future they wont be able to take away the unlock already created. with that said this post is useless, and a mod should close it, this will give the wrong idea to anyone coming to the forum looking for the unlock. who knows what motorola will bring in the future, fact remains, is unlocked and it aint going back.
"Pandora dosnt go back in the box man - he only comes out!!!!"

Dont feed the troll!!!!!!

Is the Droid RAZD M bootloader unlockable?

Hi
Do you guys know whether there's a way to unlock the bootloader of this device (not the development version)? Or maybe there will be a way to unlock it? Is there any team that tries to customize this new device?
Thanks!

yairku said:
Hi
Do you guys know whether there's a way to unlock the bootloader of this device (not the development version)? Or maybe there will be a way to unlock it? Is there any team that tries to customize this new device?
Thanks!
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Not currently. possibly never.
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Sad to hear that. Thanks.

yairku said:
Hi
Do you guys know whether there's a way to unlock the bootloader of this device (not the development version)? Or maybe there will be a way to unlock it? Is there any team that tries to customize this new device?
Thanks!
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Are you trying to get the subsidized version and then unlock it? hehe I couldn't think of another reason why to not get the Developer Edition with it being unlocked to start off with. :cyclops: Not a bad idea though but nice try...probably would go that route if the developer community could unlock it as well.

Are they the same price? Is one off I'd the contract

ncvikingx97 said:
Are they the same price? Is one off I'd the contract
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Yes, they are both the same price off contract. If you think you might ever want to unlock and root, you should get the Developer's Edition. It's still covered by warranty until you unlock it, so if you don't unlock, it's just like getting the regular one. However, you get the potential to unlock, and if you decide to sell a few months later, it will likely have a higher resale value (at least to those of us who want to unlock it, anyway).

Can you get the dev on verizon? Thankd

ncvikingx97 said:
Can you get the dev on verizon? Thankd
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Yes, but you have to order it from Motorola. Verizon stores don't sell it.

Really doesn't matter tho because 99% of people are going to buy it from Verizon with a locked in bootloader so you're not likely to see much dev for unlocked versions. So if almost everyone is using a workaround you'll have to use it even tho it's not needed. I hope it gets cracked tho
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Clienterror said:
Really doesn't matter tho because 99% of people are going to buy it from Verizon with a locked in bootloader so you're not likely to see much dev for unlocked versions. So if almost everyone is using a workaround you'll have to use it even tho it's not needed. I hope it gets cracked tho
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Plenty of devs are getting them. I know for sure dhacker29 will be getting one soon hehe.
Check out http://aosp.us/ they already have root, 2 custom recoveries, and source roms on the way

mattlgroff said:
Plenty of devs are getting them. I know for sure dhacker29 will be getting one soon hehe.
Check ou, they already have root, 2 custom recoveries, and source roms on the way
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Are you sure that they are the real root ? It looks suspicious.. :cyclops: ..

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Are you sure that they are the real root ? It looks suspicious.. :cyclops: ..
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...says the guy who seems to have been around for 2 mins. Do you know who Matt is? LOL...

I'm new to Moto devices, I do not know who Matt is although I think I've seen his name someplace? Lol. I doubt it'll ever happen but I hope that theyll crack the VZW version of the M. That'd be cool
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mattlgroff said:
Plenty of devs are getting them. I know for sure dhacker29 will be getting one soon hehe.
Check out http://aosp.us/ they already have root, 2 custom recoveries, and source roms on the way
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No no I didn't mean there won't be devs for this phone I ment that probably almost everyone will be buying it from Verizon IE locked bootloader so there probably won't be much if any dev for the unlocked version bought from Motorola. I know they'll be deving and work arounds I'm not THAT silly
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It's the other way around actually, the development for the locked bootloader version will be severely limited by the inability to root, whereas the development for the unlocked developer edition is proceeding quickly. The one significant hurdle for source compiled ROMs and kernels right now is the Prima WiFi driver, which does not compile properly and the proprietary source code was not released.
Unless and until a viable root exploit is achieved for the stock version there will be very little development for it.

cellzealot said:
It's the other way around actually, the development for the locked bootloader version will be severely limited by the inability to root, whereas the development for the unlocked developer edition is proceeding quickly. The one significant hurdle for source compiled ROMs and kernels right now is the Prima WiFi driver, which does not compile properly and the proprietary source code was not released.
Unless and until a viable root exploit is achieved for the stock version there will be very little development for it.
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Dang that sucks when I had the original Atrix wr got lucky and got a leak to unlock it. I'm not sure if Google has locked it like moto but they have pretty brutal locks. Hope you guys get root soon then hopefully a BL unlocked I'd be interested in going to the M cause my s3 is a little big for my tastes and I've always loved the Razr line.
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root is easily achieved once the bootloader is unlocked. As CellZealot said, the main hangup and the piece I've been banging my head on for the past 5 days is how to get the Prima Wifi Driver to work. I have a vendor setup and if/when I can get the prima driver built I'll move on.

jimmydafish said:
root is easily achieved once the bootloader is unlocked. As CellZealot said, the main hangup and the piece I've been banging my head on for the past 5 days is how to get the Prima Wifi Driver to work. I have a vendor setup and if/when I can get the prima driver built I'll move on.
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Threadjack for a minute, but do you or your team have any idea of trying to get the M working on AT&T or T-Mobile? I'm assuming it won't work on the regular M unless we somehow get root or a bootloader unlock, but maybe it could be done on the Developer Edition?

freak4dell said:
Threadjack for a minute, but do you or your team have any idea of trying to get the M working on AT&T or T-Mobile? I'm assuming it won't work on the regular M unless we somehow get root or a bootloader unlock, but maybe it could be done on the Developer Edition?
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The radios are there to work on US GSM but as of right now they are not able to find a US GSM signal. We are looking in to getting that rectified as well.

jimmydafish said:
The radios are there to work on US GSM but as of right now they are not able to find a US GSM signal. We are looking in to getting that rectified as well.
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Awesome. It would probably be a lot cheaper for me to get an M from the US than trying to import one from Australia or the i from the UK, so if you guys can get it working on US GSM networks, that will be great.

motorola razr M prototype?

hi everyone, so i recently saw motorola razr m. the thing is, it had motorola markings on it like it is some kind of prototype or test device. it was running jellybean. just the markings were a bit curious, if someone can shed some light on what it was. thanks !

mikeverne said:
hi everyone, so i recently bought a second hand motorola razr m. the thing is, it has motorola markings on it like it is some kind of prototype or test device. it works totally fine, gsm unlocked and its running jellybean. everything runs as it should, just the markings are a bit curious. ive attached a pic to see if someone can shed some light on what it is. thanks !
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Seems kinda fishy lol
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/0dc68e3f0d?commentId=716757#716757

Somber73 said:
Seems kinda fishy lol
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/0dc68e3f0d?commentId=716757#716757
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yea i saw that too. but that doesn't really tell me anything apart from the fact that other phones like mine were also sold(which i already knew).

It would be best to just drop the subject. You have something rare, and if you want to keep it, I would keep it quiet. The guys on the Motorola forum are launching a pretty big investigation into this. I would delete your pic and edit your OP. Don't get me wrong, I DO NOT condone illegal activity, but there is a reason these are out in the open...

Regardless of the circumstances surrounding where or how he got the phone, there ought to be someplace where this guy can get answers as to its origin or what it is exactly without everybody overreacting.
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It is an Engineering model device and it will have a fully unlocked bootloader Status 1 when you boot into AP Fastboot mode from the boot menu.
It will also have engineering firmware with userdebug testkeys builds unless it was flashed by prior owner to stock or a custom build.
These are very valuable devices to a developer because they can run any firmware, including the engineering bootloaders and radio images, which cannot be run even on devices with unlocked bootloaders via exploit or the official Development edition devices, all of which have a Status 3 bootloader.
The good news is you can run any firmware you like safely on them, but you must flash them manually and you can't run any OTA updates until you do so because they will fail signatures and checksums on engineering builds.
There is also usually a lot of debugging binaries and apps and monitoring components on these builds that you want to disable generally.
It's a great opportunity, but comes with some greater responsibility.
The official forum, as noted above, is an extremely poor place to get this kind of information and is basically useless, as you discovered.
More of these devices have been showing up lately and I have seen several posts by confused users like yourself regarding such phones.
Consider yourself lucky and start learning how to take advantage of your rare device!

It would seem, especially from the reaction by Motorola, that it is indeed an internal phone. I'm guessing they want the IMEI so they can take someone's head off.
I doubt Motorola would go after any end users, they didn't seem too mad at the guy who posted there. Someone inside will probably not be happy after that investigation though
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cellzealot said:
It is an Engineering model device and it will have a fully unlocked bootloader Status 1 when you boot into AP Fastboot mode from the boot menu.
It will also have engineering firmware with userdebug testkeys builds unless it was flashed by prior owner to stock or a custom build.
These are very valuable devices to a developer because they can run any firmware, including the engineering bootloaders and radio images, which cannot be run even on devices with unlocked bootloaders via exploit or the official Development edition devices, all of which have a Status 3 bootloader.
The good news is you can run any firmware you like safely on them, but you must flash them manually and you can't run any OTA updates until you do so because they will fail signatures and checksums on engineering builds.
There is also usually a lot of debugging binaries and apps and monitoring components on these builds that you want to disable generally.
It's a great opportunity, but comes with some greater responsibility.
The official forum, as noted above, is an extremely poor place to get this kind of information and is basically useless, as you discovered.
More of these devices have been showing up lately and I have seen several posts by confused users like yourself regarding such phones.
Consider yourself lucky and start learning how to take advantage of your rare device!
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thank you! and btw, that wasn't me who posted in the official forums lol. thats the lase place i would think of posting if i had a prototype haha.
sloosecannon said:
It would seem, especially from the reaction by Motorola, that it is indeed an internal phone. I'm guessing they want the IMEI so they can take someone's head off.
I doubt Motorola would go after any end users, they didn't seem too mad at the guy who posted there. Someone inside will probably not be happy after that investigation though
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thank you! and yea, i agree.

that convo on the motorola forum is hilarious!
buyer claimed he got it from someone he does not know that placed an ad on pakistani forum.

jco23 said:
that convo on the motorola forum is hilarious!
buyer claimed he got it from someone he does not know that placed an ad on pakistani forum.
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uh, actually im pretty sure he is telling the truth. its sort of a Pakistani craigslist.

RSD is proprietary software, owned by Motorola. While I know it's very easy to find online, it's not intended for public use. The rules of this site forbid discussion of software installation or use unless that software is distributed by Motorola or one of its partners.
That pretty much sums it up. Had he come to xda, he'd have gotten help. He didn't seem too open to helping the Motorola guys out though, so they didn't help him. Don't see why he would lie about that, he's just a poor guy who wants his confidential Motorola property to work for him... By asking the people that someone stole it from... Yeah...
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guys, i am going to buy a similar "confidential" razr m phone. what do you suggest? is this going to cause software issues like installing new roms or gapps?

dasche said:
guys, i am going to buy a similar "confidential" razr m phone. what do you suggest? is this going to cause software issues like installing new roms or gapps?
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Nope. Since it's factory unlocked, you should be able to install TWRP and go about flashing whatever you want. It might be a wiser choice to buy a regular handset, since you want have Motorola property all over the front.

Bootloader unlock app in android market

Browsing in the Google play I found this app is a bootloader unlocker. I know is no for the att smartphone o Verizon phones, but I'm sure the developers of xda can dig deep inside the app and figure it out which files hack to unlock the bootloader in att phones. Here is the picture of the app.
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Hauwei uses a COMPLETELY different bootloader than Samsung, so I highly doubt this would work, or even be useful for anyone trying to unlock the Samsung bootloaders.
Side-note, get a Canadian one with MG1 and you're fully unlocked right out of the box. =)

mruizco said:
Browsing in the Google play I found this app is a bootloader unlocker. I know is no for the att smartphone o Verizon phones, but I'm sure the developers of xda can dig deep inside the app and figure it out which files hack to unlock the bootloader in att phones. Here is the picture of the app.
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The AT&T Galaxy S4's bootloader will NOT be unlocked again. The loki method unlocked it last spring, but most developers have moved onto other devices. The S4 will not be Sammy's flagship for too much longer.

MattMJB0188 said:
The AT&T Galaxy S4's bootloader will NOT be unlocked again. The loki method unlocked it last spring, but most developers have moved onto other devices. The S4 will not be Sammy's flagship for too much longer.
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There are people actively working on trying to crack the bootloader, don't know where you've been. Most of the work is happening over on the Verizon S4 forum... it's already been stated that if one is cracked the other should be venerable to the same exploits.

Well you're right about s4 not being flagship much longer. The S5 will be out in Feb. Lol
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NighthawkXL said:
There are people actively working on trying to crack the bootloader, don't know where you've been. Most of the work is happening over on the Verizon S4 forum... it's already been stated that if one is cracked the other should be venerable to the same exploits.
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Do you know if DJBliss is working on it?

MattMJB0188 said:
The AT&T Galaxy S4's bootloader will NOT be unlocked again. The loki method unlocked it last spring, but most developers have moved onto other devices. The S4 will not be Sammy's flagship for too much longer.
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So do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader once the s5 comes out?
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acts4:12 said:
So do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader once the s5 comes out?
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They said they will only have locked bootloaders from now on. Its absolutely ridiculous! The S2, S3, Note, and Note 2 all were on AT&T with unlocked bootloaders. I want to know why they are cracking down now. They claim locked bootloaders provide a more consistent experience. Guess I didn't realize that my phone works so much better with all the AT&T crapware installed.
The AT&T Galaxy S5 will have a locked bootloader, which will probably take even more time and effort to hack.

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They said they will only have locked bootloaders from now on. Its absolutely ridiculous! The S2, S3, Note, and Note 2 all were on AT&T with unlocked bootloaders. I want to know why they are cracking down now. They claim locked bootloaders provide a more consistent experience. Guess I didn't realize that my phone works so much better with all the AT&T crapware installed.
The AT&T Galaxy S5 will have a locked bootloader, which will probably take even more time and effort to hack.
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No I mean on the s4. Do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader on the s4 once the s5 comes out?

No they will not unlock the S4 bootloader before during or after the release of the S5 . The S4 is locked now , I had to get a warranty replacement which came with the new software . To be brutally honest I dont even want the damn phone anymore because of the locked software . Knox trips out and sends me notifications regularly . Of course I cant disable it or even remove it . Personally I think they really borked this phone to hell and back.

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No I mean on the s4. Do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader on the s4 once the s5 comes out?
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I doubt it. But anything can happen. I hope they do. But it was unlocked once and AT&T just patched that right up.
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No they will not unlock the S4 bootloader before during or after the release of the S5 . The S4 is locked now , I had to get a warranty replacement which came with the new software . To be brutally honest I dont even want the damn phone anymore because of the locked software . Knox trips out and sends me notifications regularly . Of course I cant disable it or even remove it . Personally I think they really borked this phone to hell and back.
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They did. In the beginning it was a cool phone because we had development for it. Now we're so limited on what we can do. Rooting it can even be dangerous with some of the new methods.
Its a shame that the S4 is now the iPhone of Androids. All nice and locked down making it near impossible for the user to get the most out of his device.

The s4 bootloader will not be unlocked again. The only hope we have is a loki-que exploit. Jeboo's new patch allows the live booting of unsigned modules but only until the memory is erase (i.e. reboot). I believe I read somewhere from hash code that he is trying to get jeboos patch to work with kexec so it can be used during boot in combination with safestrap to load custom kernals and in turn, allowing the use of aosp roms.
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cyrushehe said:
How long could it be before an implementation of this for the average user on XDA? Days? Weeks? Months?
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Your guess is as good as anyone else's. All I know is that @Hashcode knows about this and is trying to get kexec working using this.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578566&page=3
Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.

MattMJB0188 said:
I doubt it. But anything can happen. I hope they do. But it was unlocked once and AT&T just patched that right up.
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The bootloader was never and has never been unlocked, and will never be unlocked by ATT, nor will any future ATT phones come with an unlocked bootloader. what youre refering to was loki which was an exploit/workaround that allowed custom kernels, it was not an unlock...but it did get the job done.
All we can do now is hope hashcode can get kexec working with safestrap or some other loki-like exploit
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mg2195 said:
The bootloader was never and has never been unlocked, and will never be unlocked by ATT, nor will any future ATT phones come with an unlocked bootloader. what youre refering to was loki which was an exploit/workaround that allowed custom kernels, it was not an unlock...but it did get the job done.
All we can do now is hope hashcode can get kexec working with safestrap or some other loki-like exploit
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Thanks for clearing that up. I was always under the impression it was unlocked because we were able to run CWM/TWRP.
Highly doubt AT&T will ever unlock the bootloader, but it would be nice if we had an AT&T developer edition of the S4.

More than likely my next phone will be a Nexus device . I went with the S4 due to the SD card slot and removable battery . Also I don't see the nexus line ever going to this configuration but to have an unlocked device that I am able to manipulate the system on it as I should with a device that is mine . I will have to lose in other catagories to gain in others so be it . Just pretty much over this cat and mouse game with carriers / manufacturers dealing with locked unlocked bootloaders and force fed bloatware .

SouthernEvo said:
More than likely my next phone will be a Nexus device . I went with the S4 due to the SD card slot and removable battery . Also I don't see the nexus line ever going to this configuration but to have an unlocked device that I am able to manipulate the system on it as I should with a device that is mine . I will have to lose in other catagories to gain in others so be it . Just pretty much over this cat and mouse game with carriers / manufacturers dealing with locked unlocked bootloaders and force fed bloatware .
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I'm pretty sure my next phone will NOT be ATT. Other than that I'm still pretty open brand-wise

i really like my S4 with my tax refund im just going to get buy an international version of it, and sell my at&t branded one. or trade it for something else like an iphone to play with. Or ill wait and see how the S5 looks.

As was mentioned already, kexec is probably the only feasible solution at this point. The ATT/VZW BL bounties have been 5k+ (I think) for months on end with no reportable progress.
If I stick with Sammy for the S5, it will be the international version since I pay full price anyways. They have a huge dev community and strong user base, something ATT/VZW has ruined

As been stated, there will be no bootloader unlocked for the att s4..what a crock...I have since moved on to the Note3 tmo UNLOCKED device. I still use my S4, frankly, I have no problem using loki on the phone....I have never let any of my phones ever do updates, never seen one upgrade with the OTA...

Sad this happened because I really liked the S4. All my HTC phones are unlocked, S-Off and the whole nine. I had this phone for only 4 days and besides it's beauty, it was a disheartening experience. I think this trumps the Optimus L9's experience of a locked bootloader. Even the Optimus G Pro's bootloader can be unlocked using an app.
I think Sammy wants to be Apple in regards to how Apple has a user experience of being locked. Also with the fake S3s/S4s/Note out there they probably do not want their software cloned.
I will say in the 4 days I had it it prompted me to start a business. I learned how to root and unlock the phone just by switching modems and running regionlockaway.

Anybody have an update on unlocking the bootloader

I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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droidfreak02 said:
I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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Not gong to happen, so I'd stop worrying and thinking about this.

We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.

ryanbg said:
We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.
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Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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pimpmaneaton said:
Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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I was about where you were at in October. I've got a decent chunk of Linux/C experience, but most of it is just reading/learning/searching and putting the pieces together. It's just really time consuming

It is sad how quickly people are dismissing it as impossible. people said the same thing about the Razor...

Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.

Walter.White said:
Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.
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Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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shangrila500 said:
Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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Nah. It was actually @ryanbg who achieved that secureboot:none status and it was his picture that he sent it to adam AFAIK adam doesn't even have note 3 (ppl where trying to crowd fund it but mods kept deleting those threads for one reason or another..so he actually never got N3 in his hand).
P.S. I'm just hoping that some dev has already cracked the bootloader but is waiting on S5 release before posting it. :fingers-crossed: @designgears already has the S5 firmware but hasn't posted it yet.