Hello fellow Blade lovers. My apologies if this topic has already been posted in the Blade section... I did a few keyword searches to check first, but didn't find anything, so thought I might make a post just in case others are having the same problem. Hopefully many of you will be loving and using KitKat for the trusty Blade brought to us by the amazing Zeelog over in Modaco.
If you are coming from another ROM you will most likely be backing up all your apps, call/text logs and other things. Whilst doing this process one of the minor problems I found was the change in permissions of how SMS messaging works in KitKat and how this affects SMS Backup/Restore apps - namely that when restoring text messages they don't re-appear. To be clear, this is nothing to do with Zeelog, this is a change to the way KitKat deals with messaging.
I cannot take any credit for this information - I did some searching on the internet and found a few different sites discussing this issue and possible solutions. All I am doing here is just highlighting the way to get it working specific to Zeelog's KitKat for Blade users when using the app SMS Backup+ by Jan Berkel. Of course, any ROM that has the 'App Ops' functionality will be able to employ this same fix. The theory would suggest that it would work for other similar SMS backup apps as well, but I have only tested it with this app. In brief (and from what I can make out), it relates to a change in KitKat where only the default designated SMS application has permissions to write to the SMS database.
In order to get it working, you need 'App Ops' - which Zeelog's KitKat has. So here is what you do after installing SMS Backup+ but before you use it to restore your text messages:
Go into Settings>Privacy
Go into the first option Privacy Guard
Press the MENU button (or select the 3 square dots top right on the screen) and select Advanced
Scroll to the right twice so you get to the MESSAGING section
Scroll down until you find SMS Backup+ and then select it
Scroll down until you find the parameter Write SMS DB and you will see it is set to DENIED
Change it to ALLOWED
That's it. Now when you restore your call and text logs you will get all your text messages back. From what I can see, there is no reason why you cannot leave it set to ALLOWED. Looking at the features of SMS Backup+, you can automate backups but not automate restores, so I cannot see any reason for putting it back to DENIED. I cannot comment on any other backup/restore apps as this is my app of choice - but I guess that if you are not sure then DENY it once you have restored your logs. Hope this helps.
It just occurred to me that if you are using a ROM which doesn't have 'App Ops' available, you could always installed Xposed, then install the App Ops module.
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Hi there,
i wanted to take the SMS from my old G1 to my arc.
some 334 messages.
i used the backup i had from "SMS Backup & Restore"
it said it restored them all.
i made a new backup and it said it backed up 334.
so i guess they must be in the DB.
however if i startup "Messaging"
- i get a unusable sort order (actually i can't recon what it is sorting. certainly not conversation with the newest update is top-most, what i would expect)
now i wonder:
- is this a bug of "Messaging" App
- how can i get the vanilla stock "Messaging" App
- is it a Problem with "SMS Backup & Restore" and how can i solve that
any help deeply appreciated!
raudidroid said:
however if i startup "Messaging"
- i get a unusable sort order (actually i can't recon what it is sorting. certainly not conversation with the newest update is top-most, what i would expect)
now i wonder:
- is this a bug of "Messaging" App
- how can i get the vanilla stock "Messaging" App
- is it a Problem with "SMS Backup & Restore" and how can i solve that
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It's not a bug. SMS Backup backs up messages based on date but the restore doesn't always sort it chronologically. The only way to have it updated is to send or receive a message from the same threaded conversation.
Why do you want stock? There are lots of better SMS applications.
e.g. Handcent: http://www.bestandroidappsreview.com/2010/04/top-android-app-handcent-sms.html
I've used SMS Backup & Restore a few times and never had issues until trying to move messages from one handset to another.
As BluechipJ says, the messages are all still there, it's just the order is messed up a bit.
But, over time, it'll sort itself out.
Thanks for your answers!
Now that i got messages from the most important contacts it's already getting better.
I'll have a look at handcent. Not so sure tough if I realy trust anybody when it comes to reading my SMS ;-)
Hello guys..
actually am facing this problem right now on my C6602 Xperia z..
Can anyone of you help? How to sort my SMSs by date chronologically??
Thanks...
To all frequent Flashers:
I wonder what are the options to backup your phone-settings before flashing a new ROM. I used Titanium Backup pro to backup all my apps and app-related settings which worked like a charm. However since it's not recommended to restore system-apps & data (?) I wonder how you do that. I am talking mainly about:
- Contacts including favourites and Call Logs (that one was a pain in the *** because the Google-Sync thing just didn't work for me. It didn't restore my contacts!)
- APNs
- eMail settings and Google Account settings
- Global systems settings like Notification Sounds, Haptic Feedback settings etc. pp.
- Alarm Clock settings
I recently flashed JVP (my first time, woooot) but am planning to upgrade to JVQ for some glitches and quite bad WLAN reception. Maybe I'll try out some Custom Roms. However if I have to restore all of the above manually I'll reconsider.
Titanium Backup or Nitrality should do the job for apps you install. It is not really recommended to restore the system data that you are talking about because things can change from ROM to ROM that might impact this.
Thanks for the quick reply.
Not restoring system apps with TB makes perfect sense to me, yes.
However, I still wonder how to backup and restore contacts, call logs and sound/notifcation/sync settings...
there must be a way, right?
jellygoos said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
Not restoring system apps with TB makes perfect sense to me, yes.
However, I still wonder how to backup and restore contacts, call logs and sound/notifcation/sync settings...
there must be a way, right?
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This will backup your Call log, sms, and mms but I'm not sure about your system settings. - https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zegoggles.smssync&feature=search_result
You can export all of your contacts to your sdcard by pressing the menu key while in your phonebook.
TBH, I write down my notification settings before I flash because I havent been able to find a way to back them up successfully 100%. It only takes a second.
Hope it helps
Just to share my experience, the restoration is not always a good idea, it causes sometimes some error if you restore in a totally new version of the ROM (like from 2.2.1 to 2.3)
This is how I do it:
Apps + their data: Titanium Backup. Never backup/restore system data, only apps data!
SMS: An app called SMS backup/restore it will create an xml file of your SMS on the external sdcard
Contacts: Google Sync
Call logs: Never really wanted or needed to. It depends on what you want it for: If you want a true historic log of all your calls, I should recommend using calltrack: https://market.android.com/details?id=app.calltrack&feature=search_result - This cool app will record all your calls to a Google calendar (go to calendar page, create a new calendar called logs or something and point calltrack to that calendar. Then just hide it from your web calendar so it doesnt clutter up the view. Nifty!)
If what you want is to retain a log so you can use it to redial or call back, I don't know what would do.
I'm running Golden Eye on my AT&T S4 (mdl bootloader so no safestrap). I used to update regularly but been busy lately so I'm several versions behind and want to upgrade to the latest and greatest (v24 to v35). Everything goes fine with the install except for the fact that I can't seem to restore my text messages. In the past I have always been able to restore from an xml file with TiBu without any issues. Now when I open the messaging app after attempting to restore, it shows all the contacts that I've been texting with but when I select someone there's no actual texts or photos displayed. I know some people recommend against restoring call logs and texts via TiBu but I've never had an issue when upgrading v1 through v24.
Has something changed in recent updates that might affect how these files are handled or where they're stored? Anyone know of a work around or a good app that handles mms?
Hi,
This is a general enquiry but I was not sure where to post it and thought here as I am using a Nexus 6P now.
I always backup my MMS/SMS messages when I swap phones and I also have software that allows me to swap between IOS and Android. During one of these swap sessions, a load of my messages have doubled up and I cannot remove them and was hoping someone could advise me how to do it?
I use SMS Backup & Restore and have tried to restore with the check box about duplicates checked, but it doesn't work as it check with SMS/MMS already there to see if that is a duplicate.
I read there was software that used to work on Jellybean that deleted duplicates, but I cannot get it to work on Marshmallow and I have no access to devices that run Jellybean. (Kammas BackupSMS)
Hopefully someone can assist with getting rid of all the duplicates.
My phone is an H910 running Oreo (stock; never rooted). I have used the stock Messaging app for SMS/MMS.
I am trying to backup all SMS/MMS and move to a different device so that I can delete them on my H910 to save space. There are about 1,200 messages to move. Ideally, I would like to be able to save all sent/received messages and open them in a messaging app on a different non-LG device. (I would like to open them via a messaging app installed to BlueStacks. My preference would be to save them to my email; I previously used SMS Backup+ with great success, but that has not worked for years now it seems, so I am not counting on a solution like that.)
The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to save my sent messages. In other words, I can see all of my received messages when viewing them on the new device, but none of the messages I have sent.
I have tried switching to new messaging apps such as Google Messages and Textra on the H910. However, this only shows my received messages (no sent messages).
I have also tried using a backup/restore app such as SMS Backup & Restore, but my sent messages are not backed up that way, either. (I have used a number of different methods to view the file with the backed up messages. The only messages shown are received messages.)
Does anyone have any recommendation for how to solve this? Why can't I backup/save my sent messages?
dub5a said:
My phone is an H910 running Oreo (stock; never rooted). I have used the stock Messaging app for SMS/MMS.
I am trying to backup all SMS/MMS and move to a different device so that I can delete them on my H910 to save space. There are about 1,200 messages to move. Ideally, I would like to be able to save all sent/received messages and open them in a messaging app on a different non-LG device. (I would like to open them via a messaging app installed to BlueStacks. My preference would be to save them to my email; I previously used SMS Backup+ with great success, but that has not worked for years now it seems, so I am not counting on a solution like that.)
The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to save my sent messages. In other words, I can see all of my received messages when viewing them on the new device, but none of the messages I have sent.
I have tried switching to new messaging apps such as Google Messages and Textra on the H910. However, this only shows my received messages (no sent messages).
I have also tried using a backup/restore app such as SMS Backup & Restore, but my sent messages are not backed up that way, either. (I have used a number of different methods to view the file with the backed up messages. The only messages shown are received messages.)
Does anyone have any recommendation for how to solve this? Why can't I backup/save my sent messages?
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SMS Backup & Restore works for me on Android 8 (US996).
A search came up with this:
https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/not-able-to-backup-sent-text-messages-12778
where RCS messages are the problem, are you using RCS?
Parasol_Monsters said:
SMS Backup & Restore works for me on Android 8 (US996).
A search came up with this:
https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/not-able-to-backup-sent-text-messages-12778
where RCS messages are the problem, are you using RCS?
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Thank you for your response.
Yes, that appears to be the problem. The H910 is AT&T-branded, and I am using it on AT&T. It automatically comes with "advanced messaging" (aka RCS) enabled. So, that is the problem... that is why SMS Backup & Restore will not work. (It looks like SMS Backup & Restore might work with RCS if I had been using Google Messages from the start. Unfortunately, that was not the case.)
I am now wondering if I can get another V20/other capable device with a better messaging app installed prior to the process and then use AT&T's Mobile Transfer to move everything over and back. I may pursue this.
If anyone has a better method of backing up SMS/MMS/RCS messages, please let me know. Otherwise, I guess the moral of the story is to always use a third-party messaging app that allows for backup of RCS or stores the messages via cloud/alternative means that you can actually access.
This might be a solution:
https://www.att.com/features/backup-sync/
Parasol_Monsters said:
This might be a solution:
https://www.att.com/features/backup-sync/
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Thank you. I actually was attempting to use that last night. It seems that using this allows you to backup all messages (SMS/MMS/RCS) to AT&T's cloud, but you can then only access them via AT&T's messaging app. There does not appear to be a way to export them from that app to a different device. So, it is great if you just want to view the messages on a different device... but not so great if you actually want to move the messages from one device to another.