Hello all, so i updated to 17.1.A.2.69 today and notice i no longer have any LTE options. I now see 4G in quick settings and in mobile networks. Is this normal?
Thanks in advance!
roninr1c said:
Hello all, so i updated to 17.1.A.2.69 today and notice i no longer have any LTE options. I now see 4G in quick settings and in mobile networks. Is this normal?
Thanks in advance!
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Yes - happened to me as well! But it's still LTE as I'm getting the same speed, They basically replaced the LTE icon with 4G icon, which I found pretty annoying.
Thanks! :good:
4G = LTE
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4G = LTE
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In the US (maybe elsewhere) there is a strange distinction where a 4G icon is sometimes used for HSPA+ 4G (or 3.5G, depending on who you ask) and an LTE icon is used for LTE 4G. Kinda silly, but it's become something of a "standard" here now. I think that's why it concerns some people, because they are worried their phone is only using HSPA+ and not LTE.
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Yes Sir! But US carriers had a history of marketing 3.5G/HSPA+ as 4G (Xperia Play 4G!). So anyone over here would freak out after seeing a 4G icon on an LTE capable phone. But all US users are using imported Z2 at this moment - so I guess we just have to deal with it.
schecter7 said:
Yes Sir! But US carriers had a history of marketing 3.5G/HSPA+ as 4G (Xperia Play 4G!). So anyone over here would freak out after seeing a 4G icon on an LTE capable phone. But all US users are using imported Z2 at this moment - so I guess we just have to deal with it.
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Sorry, i didnt know that.
schecter7 said:
Yes Sir! But US carriers had a history of marketing 3.5G/HSPA+ as 4G (Xperia Play 4G!). So anyone over here would freak out after seeing a 4G icon on an LTE capable phone. But all US users are using imported Z2 at this moment - so I guess we just have to deal with it.
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Wow, we had a "jinx!" moment there!! Kinda scary how similar our posts are.
JMonkeYJ said:
Wow, we had a "jinx!" moment there!! Kinda scary how similar our posts are.
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LOL - at the first sight, I thought I double posted - hehehe
schecter7 said:
Yes - happened to me as well! But it's still LTE as I'm getting the same speed, They basically replaced the LTE icon with 4G icon, which I found pretty annoying.
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I know this sound stupid.... but if i am getting 50 Mbps then.. even thought it has the 4G sign it should be an LTE... right? Logically thinking the HSPA+ can only go up to 20 Mbps
junwb said:
I know this sound stupid.... but if i am getting 50 Mbps then.. even thought it has the 4G sign it should be an LTE... right? Logically thinking the HSPA+ can only go up to 20 Mbps
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Should be correct. I think technically H+ can handle up to 42Mbps or something like that. I wish it were that fast here, lol
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4G CONNECTIONS ON YOUR CURRENT PHONE. NOW! MAYBE
Posted by Simon Walker on 17th March 2010
via ANDROIDSPIN.com
Well isn’t this just the week for wild rumors and tipsters.
We just received an anonymous tip informing us some of the carriers have been testing 3G/4G connectivity using existing cell phones that we already own. Apparently the carriers have piggy backed a different signal on the existing cell towers and this signal may be available for us to use.
We have no idea how valid this rumor is but we’ll be doing more investigating to see what we can find out so stay tuned for any updates. I sure don’t want to miss out on the opportunity of getting a 4G connection on my G1 and Nexus.
If you’ve heard anything, please leave us a comment.
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I am already working on implementing this into my ROM, it still is intermittent but I definitely can confirm a 4g connection.
and for the non believers:
cyanogen said:
I have some test code that can't be released yet, but I can confirm that it works on several devices.
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wesgarner said:
hey kudos for the forward on this, will def be implementing this code into my kernel (private branch, sorry)
Seriously guys, we are working around trying to play with this code and see what we can get out of it
Give us a few weeks, but we promise it will make you smile
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Reserved~~~~~~~~~~
HSPA? 3.5G?
are you talking 3.5G aka HSPA 7.2?
Its gonna be a good 6 months to a year before most of us even get the HSPA tower upgrades.
This is exciting!
read my post they already exist, and they are already everywhere, they just havent been "opened" or "released" or "talked" about yet
screenshot of the network strength (4G) in settings please
kingklick said:
screenshot of the network strength (4G) in settings please
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relax and chill for a bit, its far too unstable as of now for any reliability at all, this was just discovered like an hour ago, when i have something stable or another dev here does we will post screenshots and post some **** for you guys to try
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read my post they already exist, and they are already everywhere, they just havent been "opened" or "released" or "talked" about yet
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Ben,
Where are you located?
I know they tested random towers (Baltimore) and have been rolling it out to some areas already... but I haven't heard any hype pointing to LA getting it yet.
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Ben,
Where are you located?
I know they tested random towers (Baltimore) and have been rolling it out to some areas already... but I haven't heard any hype pointing to LA getting it yet.
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this should be across the entire country, i dunno about Europe, and im in Seattle btw
bbuchacher said:
this should be across the entire country, i dunno about Europe, and im in Seattle btw
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no doubt bro.
by the by, people can stir up bs all they want, but I've never had any issues with you
kingklick said:
no doubt bro.
by the by, people can stir up bs all they want, but I've never had any issues with you
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Likewise~~
Yumm, this sounds exciting.
bbuchacher said:
this should be across the entire country, i dunno about Europe, and im in Seattle btw
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I can confirm this in the Seattle area. we just launched hspa 7.2 upgrade in some networks and at the nok in snoqulmie BUT its not launched yet maybe you could gain intermittent access but not all the time. plus it would waste battery switching back and forth just an fyi might work really well downtown though.....
this was one of the reasons for the radio upgrade. and some of the phones on tmobiles network already has the hardware needed to access hspa
so what exactly is going on? My phone currently support 3.5G or HSDPA
Jedipottsy said:
so what exactly is going on? My phone currently support 3.5G or HSDPA
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Tmobile will be launching 4g soon everything is in place HSPA 7.2 to 21mbps in some places. tmobile will be keeping up with the Joneses
blackerwater said:
Tmobile will be launching 4g soon everything is in place HSPA 7.2 to 21mbps in some places. tmobile will be keeping up with the Joneses
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...nice.
Here's the million dollar question.
...Will it work on our G1s?
G Zero said:
...nice.
Here's the million dollar question.
...Will it work on our G1s?
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YES 7.2mbps will (technically 3.5g) but close enough for us tmobile peps
blackerwater said:
Tmobile will be launching 4g soon everything is in place HSPA 7.2 to 21mbps in some places. tmobile will be keeping up with the Joneses
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i just want them to expand their 3g
rondey- said:
i just want them to expand their 3g
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in all actuality they are expanding there 3g hspa (high speed packet access) witch theoretically can reach speeds of 48 mbps but we will be moving to LTE before we reach those speeds. plus LTE will be cheaper
This is definitely something very interesting, I would love to run my nexus one at 4G.
Well, not sure if anyone else has had this issue with their G2 yet, but I got mine today and found that the 3G/HSPA+ (I'm in Austin and we're an HSPA+ location) doesn't work. Edge is working fine, wireless works fine, but I had no hi speed data.
Spent a while on the phone with T-Mobile and they tried everything. Swapped SIM cards for the new one, master reset, checked my coverage area, checked my account, etc. No dice. Phone has been deemed defective. Grrr...my brand new G2 birthday gift. Oh well, replacement is being shipped out.
oh that just sucks... oooooooo i need to get home and open mine also now! and pray for the H lol... hspa+ area also
I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
The "H" means you definitely have HSPA. The only way you'll know the difference between HSPA and HSPA+ is probably the speed. Unless there's something in the testing menu that shows you the difference.
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it should actually say "H+" if you in a HSPA+ area
The user manual actually says that it will show the H if you're on the HSPA, HSPA+, or 3G network.. so I don't know how we'll be able to tell unless we speedtest it.
Du22ty said:
The user manual actually says that it will show the H if you're on the HSPA, HSPA+, or 3G network.. so I don't know how we'll be able to tell unless we speedtest it.
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you are correct.
I don't notice any speed increases from the g2 compared to my nexus one regarding the data network
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Ellises said:
I don't notice any speed increases from the g2 compared to my nexus one regarding the data network
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You probably won't until they throw the switches on in all areas of your town. only like 10% of the towers in mine actually use HSPA+... the other 90% at still on HPSA/UTMS. Give it more time...
This is the one single aspect about the G2 that kicks the N1's butt. The 3G connection and radio reliability is awesome! Everything else is a wash for me. I'm actually starting to like the keyboard a little, too.
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I git a h g the e my house sucks I only get e inside ill test it out speed test tomorrow when im not home
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Fascinating... I think they are shipping some of us Desire Zs stamped T-Mobile by accident... 1.5GB NAND, no HSPA+... Seems to fit.
If you have a G2, can you please vote in this thread to indicate the hardware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796421
Also, if you feel so inclined to post and say if your HSPA/3G works, that would be appreciated.
robertgibson said:
I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
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I'm in Charleston. Pretty sure we have HSPA+
sccpmusc26 said:
I'm in Charleston. Pretty sure we have HSPA+
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Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
pmstc said:
Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
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http://www.dailytech.com/TMobile+Expands+4GLike+HSPA+Network/article18741.htm
I've also called to verify. Columbia doesn't have HSPA+, Charleston does.
pmstc said:
Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
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That site actually says HSPA+ is in Charleston, Anderson, and Greenville. Thanks for backing me up. ;p
sccpmusc26 said:
That site actually says HSPA+ is in Charleston, Anderson, and Greenville. Thanks for backing me up. ;p
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Oh wow, I feel retarded. In my defense, it's not marked on the map! I hope the Greenville/Anderson towers reach Clemson!
Telus 3G icon and H icon
If I can ask for one more clarification.
Up here in the Great White North I am with Telus who has HSPA+ coverage in my area : Montreal (no 2G available at all)
The icon on my Desire shows 3G unless I am accessing data then it flashes the H with the up and down arrows.
I am assume this is correct and the "H" only makes an appearance when it needs to access the data network. The rest of the time it stays as 3G
Important today as they had major connection issues and the H was not appearing even when I was trying to browse or update Facebook.
robertgibson said:
I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
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H is hsdpa
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zephirus said:
Fascinating... I think they are shipping some of us Desire Zs stamped T-Mobile by accident... 1.5GB NAND, no HSPA+... Seems to fit.
If you have a G2, can you please vote in this thread to indicate the hardware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796421
Also, if you feel so inclined to post and say if your HSPA/3G works, that would be appreciated.
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Yeah. I've seen speedtests on youtube and the G2 has been so disappointing. I was all excited to see 8Mb download speeds then it gets... 600Kb? WTF is that?
Heck, in one video the dude tests the G1 and G2 side by side in Speedtest and the G1 won! This is enraging! HSPA+ is T-Mobiles biggest marketing tool right now yet they made no effort to even see if it worked.
So, as most of you should know, as G2 owners we do not have an icon for 3G and we have an H icon instead. Since the H is supposed to also represent HSPA+, when T-Mobile changes their marketing strategy from calling HSPA+... HSPA+ to 4G, do you guys think that we will get some sort of update that will give us a 4G icon AND a 3G icon?
That would be nice if that icon was included. I don't think it will be though. I use 'Netswidget' to identify which network I'm connected to.
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That would be nice if that icon was included. I don't think it will be though. I use 'Netswidget' to identify which network I'm connected to.
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I use that too, and it still doesn't help. It only shows as HSDPA, whether I'm on 3G or HSPA+.
I just dislike it shows "H" even if I am on UMTS.
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I just dislike it shows "H" even if I am on UMTS.
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So do I, hope when we get custom roms on this, devs can change it and have the icon showing what we're connected to.
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I kinda like the H, its something different.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/itu-lays-down-law-wimax-2-lte-advanced-are-4g-everyone-else-i/
ITU lays down law: WiMAX 2, LTE-Advanced are 4G, everyone else is a buster
It's all marketing crap. It's not real 4g.
H is da new G
I actually like the H now... In sidekick days friends and I would say "do you got the G?" G = Sidekick Data... Now once I get everyone hooked on the G2 I will have everyone say... "Yo u got da H?!??!"
Blackman778g said:
I actually like the H now... In sidekick days friends and I would say "do you got the G?" G = Sidekick Data... Now once I get everyone hooked on the G2 I will have everyone say... "Yo u got da H?!??!"
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So what you're saying is that you're so G you're H?
I like the H because it gives me the idea that my 3G speeds are crazy fast, even if it isn't at all times. I usually get 2-4mpbs which is close to my current ISP if not better
Corylulu said:
It's all marketing crap. It's not real 4g.
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True! More like 3.5g !
starfcker69 said:
True! More like 3.5g !
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought HSDPA was 3.5g and HSPA+ was closer to 4g... And from what I've seen so far HSPA+ gets faster speeds then the 4G wiimax offered by Sprint.
Blackman778g said:
I actually like the H now... In sidekick days friends and I would say "do you got the G?" G = Sidekick Data... Now once I get everyone hooked on the G2 I will have everyone say... "Yo u got da H?!??!"
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lol. the sidekick used to have a G7 icon. til the latest one. my girly just got one and its got the G3 icon now.
H > G
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So what you're saying is that you're so G you're H?
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Hell Yeah!! Im So H!!!
G is old news H is the future!
havikx said:
lol. the sidekick used to have a G7 icon. til the latest one. my girly just got one and its got the G3 icon now.
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Yeah Sidekicks have the G3 a.k.a. 3G ....... Well it was cool at the time saying "I got the G3!!"
havikx said:
lol. the sidekick used to have a G7 icon. til the latest one. my girly just got one and its got the G3 icon now.
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That wasn't a 7, it was the antenna.
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With current 4G speeds TMO can say that there HSPA+ is 4G but only until WiMax and LTE gets optimized to there theoritical speeds that define them as 4G. When that time comes TMO can no longer claim they have 4G.
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Hey your answer is yes. The gingerbread update will give us G2 users a 4g icon and a 3g icon...
Source
CodeMonkey-10 said:
Hey your answer is yes. The gingerbread update will give us G2 users a 4g icon and a 3g icon...
Source
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Lmfao at the grave-digging of this topic. Almost all the custom roms have dealt with this.
Secondly i have installed that rom and it's not true. It does not switch back and forth like say cyanogen does between 3g/h.
Just got my phone in US....Was able to get Saturday Delivery. Anyways, the phone is awesome! My phone shows a 4G icon is that the same as LTE? I know in the Xperia ZL there was an LTE icon. Thanks.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=4G+vs+LTE
You're welcome
macklobell said:
Just got my phone in US....Was able to get Saturday Delivery. Anyways, the phone is awesome! My phone shows a 4G icon is that the same as LTE? I know in the Xperia ZL there was an LTE icon. Thanks.
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What carrier are you on?
lolstebbo said:
What carrier are you on?
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Att in us. not getting lte.
macklobell said:
Att in us. not getting lte.
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If you clicked on the linked in the second post you would have known enough.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/questions-belong-t2868300
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Att in us. not getting lte.
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Do a speed test, someone on Android Central forums shows 4G on At&t and is getting 23+ down so it's LTE
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4G is the same as LTE. It's just how this phone decides to display it
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I live in Europe, phone shows LTE when I'm using it. It's also my first LTE phone so I'm blown away atm...
4G is LTE..
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Ive had mine on t-mobile doing speed test and I'm getting 30+ down while getting average 11 mb/s up. The phone shows 4g but that is lte speeds.
This thread is pretty funny
Many have already stated the simple fact that by name '4g and LTE' are interchangeable..
They are of the same radio.
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When I had my Z2 it was running UK firmware, it displayed 4G icon on my phone on AT&T network. When I flashed the phone with Euro Unbranded firmware , LTE icon got displayed.
It just depends on the firmware customization, so either way you are getting LTE speed but the icon displays different depending on the firmware installed
Hey guys I have a question, I'm upgrading from a Nexus 6p. On my current provider I have be reviewing LTE on my Nexus I just got my one plus 5 and now I only get h+. Is there some system devices in the devices that allows the Nexus to interpret the h+ as LTE ? Kinda hate seeing the h+ in the corner there.
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Hey guys I have a question, I'm upgrading from a Nexus 6p. On my current provider I have be reviewing LTE on my Nexus I just got my one plus 5 and now I only get h+. Is there some system devices in the devices that allows the Nexus to interpret the h+ as LTE ? Kinda hate seeing the h+ in the corner there.
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You're not getting LTE... 4G should be displayed for LTE.
Have you updated to 4.5.5 already? 4.5.4 was a fix for vodafone NL users with this exact problem.
Please share country and provider.
Hey guys sorrry for the late reply. I have the latest version of OOS 4.5.5. current country is Turks and Caicos Islands and provider is Flow.
Do you know what LTE bands your carrier uses?
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You're not getting LTE... 4G should be displayed for LTE.
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Mine shown "LTE" for LTE, not 4G. I get the H+ when on HSPA+ (TMobile here, FTR).
I don't think I've ever seen "4G". Maybe it's because TMo has multiple technologies it markets as 4G, so it's ambiguous.
Koodo in Canada also displays 4G+ for LTE. But if on a Telus SIM (same network as Koodo) it shows up as LTE. Speeds are the same. Looks like the OnePlus database for carriers is not really up to date.
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Koodo in Canada also displays 4G+ for LTE. But if on a Telus SIM (same network as Koodo) it shows up as LTE. Speeds are the same. Looks like the OnePlus database for carriers is not really up to date.
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Yeah this is what I'm thinking is going on.
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Mine shown "LTE" for LTE, not 4G. I get the H+ when on HSPA+ (TMobile here, FTR).
I don't think I've ever seen "4G". Maybe it's because TMo has multiple technologies it markets as 4G, so it's ambiguous.
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Sorry, I meant for my country. I live in Oz, here we have 4G.
If LTE/4G was working properly for the OP then either LTE or 4G should be displayed, NOT H+ which is HSDPA (3G) here in Australia.
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Mine shown "LTE" for LTE, not 4G. I get the H+ when on HSPA+ (TMobile here, FTR).
I don't think I've ever seen "4G". Maybe it's because TMo has multiple technologies it markets as 4G, so it's ambiguous.
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Yes I remember I had an HTC One device and when I used it with my carrier I would always get the H+ but when I flashed a rom and selected Tmobile as my carrier the 4G icon showed up for me. I wish I knew where to go to alter these settings to have the H+ show up as LTE or 4G for me like tmobile does or like my Nexus device did. (Even if its fake lol)
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Do you know what LTE bands your carrier uses?
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Ok I had some time to do some research today after work and found out the cold hard truth. My carriers LATE band is 13 which is not supported on this device. FML
biglo said:
Ok I had some time to do some research today after work and found out the cold hard truth. My carriers LATE band is 13 which is not supported on this device. FML
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Yeah, it sucks, that's the main band missing for Verizon as well.
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Yeah, it sucks, that's the main band missing for Verizon as well.
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Yeah I just noticed that after all this searching around, WTF kind of dumb move is that to alienate all those version users like that. Smh the reason why I didn't even take the time out to see if my band was included before purchasing was because of the news the released about how much more LATE bands they were including with this model.