3.5G on all existing phones COMING SOON - G1 General

4G CONNECTIONS ON YOUR CURRENT PHONE. NOW! MAYBE
Posted by Simon Walker on 17th March 2010
via ANDROIDSPIN.com
Well isn’t this just the week for wild rumors and tipsters.
We just received an anonymous tip informing us some of the carriers have been testing 3G/4G connectivity using existing cell phones that we already own. Apparently the carriers have piggy backed a different signal on the existing cell towers and this signal may be available for us to use.
We have no idea how valid this rumor is but we’ll be doing more investigating to see what we can find out so stay tuned for any updates. I sure don’t want to miss out on the opportunity of getting a 4G connection on my G1 and Nexus.
If you’ve heard anything, please leave us a comment.
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I am already working on implementing this into my ROM, it still is intermittent but I definitely can confirm a 4g connection.
and for the non believers:
cyanogen said:
I have some test code that can't be released yet, but I can confirm that it works on several devices.
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wesgarner said:
hey kudos for the forward on this, will def be implementing this code into my kernel (private branch, sorry)
Seriously guys, we are working around trying to play with this code and see what we can get out of it
Give us a few weeks, but we promise it will make you smile
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HSPA? 3.5G?
are you talking 3.5G aka HSPA 7.2?
Its gonna be a good 6 months to a year before most of us even get the HSPA tower upgrades.

This is exciting!

read my post they already exist, and they are already everywhere, they just havent been "opened" or "released" or "talked" about yet

screenshot of the network strength (4G) in settings please

kingklick said:
screenshot of the network strength (4G) in settings please
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relax and chill for a bit, its far too unstable as of now for any reliability at all, this was just discovered like an hour ago, when i have something stable or another dev here does we will post screenshots and post some **** for you guys to try

bbuchacher said:
read my post they already exist, and they are already everywhere, they just havent been "opened" or "released" or "talked" about yet
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Ben,
Where are you located?
I know they tested random towers (Baltimore) and have been rolling it out to some areas already... but I haven't heard any hype pointing to LA getting it yet.

cal3thousand said:
Ben,
Where are you located?
I know they tested random towers (Baltimore) and have been rolling it out to some areas already... but I haven't heard any hype pointing to LA getting it yet.
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this should be across the entire country, i dunno about Europe, and im in Seattle btw

bbuchacher said:
this should be across the entire country, i dunno about Europe, and im in Seattle btw
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no doubt bro.
by the by, people can stir up bs all they want, but I've never had any issues with you

kingklick said:
no doubt bro.
by the by, people can stir up bs all they want, but I've never had any issues with you
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Likewise~~

Yumm, this sounds exciting.

bbuchacher said:
this should be across the entire country, i dunno about Europe, and im in Seattle btw
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I can confirm this in the Seattle area. we just launched hspa 7.2 upgrade in some networks and at the nok in snoqulmie BUT its not launched yet maybe you could gain intermittent access but not all the time. plus it would waste battery switching back and forth just an fyi might work really well downtown though.....
this was one of the reasons for the radio upgrade. and some of the phones on tmobiles network already has the hardware needed to access hspa

so what exactly is going on? My phone currently support 3.5G or HSDPA

Jedipottsy said:
so what exactly is going on? My phone currently support 3.5G or HSDPA
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Tmobile will be launching 4g soon everything is in place HSPA 7.2 to 21mbps in some places. tmobile will be keeping up with the Joneses

blackerwater said:
Tmobile will be launching 4g soon everything is in place HSPA 7.2 to 21mbps in some places. tmobile will be keeping up with the Joneses
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...nice.
Here's the million dollar question.
...Will it work on our G1s?

G Zero said:
...nice.
Here's the million dollar question.
...Will it work on our G1s?
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YES 7.2mbps will (technically 3.5g) but close enough for us tmobile peps

blackerwater said:
Tmobile will be launching 4g soon everything is in place HSPA 7.2 to 21mbps in some places. tmobile will be keeping up with the Joneses
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i just want them to expand their 3g

rondey- said:
i just want them to expand their 3g
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in all actuality they are expanding there 3g hspa (high speed packet access) witch theoretically can reach speeds of 48 mbps but we will be moving to LTE before we reach those speeds. plus LTE will be cheaper

This is definitely something very interesting, I would love to run my nexus one at 4G.

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HSPA+ is Real. Check these speeds.

For those of you that aren't believers, here in Pittsburgh, PA, we rock the HSPA+.
See attached.
He's over 10 thousand...!!!!!!!!!
Anderdroid said:
For those of you that aren't believers, here in Pittsburgh, PA, we rock the HSPA+.
See attached.
He's over 10 thousand...!!!!!!!!!
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why is your server set for Austin Texas
Dunno, but I'm getting 10,000. Although some tests pull 6-7mb/s.... It ranges from 6-10mb/s. Can't wait for the next speed update! I'll drop my comcast cable if this thing breaks 20.
He might be over 10,000...
However in the end it's still over 9,000!!!!
Yeah but this upload sucks my n0000000000ts
Actually I'm beginning to think that they programmed this phone to show H even if it's on plain 3g. Sometimes I actually only get 3.87MB/s which makes me think I 'unlatched' from HSPA+. My Vibrant on the i9000 ROM switched from 3g to "H" often.
that upload sux
it's just like what i get in my area...
did they not enable HSUPA/+?
Anderdroid said:
Dunno, but I'm getting 10,000. Although some tests pull 6-7mb/s.... It ranges from 6-10mb/s. Can't wait for the next speed update! I'll drop my comcast cable if this thing breaks 20.
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i have that problem with speedtest it shows your in a differnt state for some reason
Anderdroid said:
Yeah but this upload sucks my n0000000000ts
Actually I'm beginning to think that they programmed this phone to show H even if it's on plain 3g. Sometimes I actually only get 3.87MB/s which makes me think I 'unlatched' from HSPA+. My Vibrant on the i9000 ROM switched from 3g to "H" often.
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Yes it wil never say 3G always H or E and really bad G lol. If you wanna see when your on HSPA, UMTS OR EDGE try this widget. I like it. http://drdmkt.com/3b1
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
shibby80 said:
i have that problem with speedtest it shows your in a differnt state for some reason
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Usually it is because you went somewhere else and your phone hasn't locked on to you since you got back. For example, I'll travel to Dallas (I'm in Houston) and I'll update weatherbug to the Dallas area but if I go back to Houston and don't update my location via weatherbug or something it will show me 30 miles from the Dallas server.
Look at that...his 3g is faster than my wifi in my house...
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in my house i am getting 385 down and 705 up, my N1 gets double that...on a bad day
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Dunno, but I'm getting 10,000. Although some tests pull 6-7mb/s.... It ranges from 6-10mb/s. Can't wait for the next speed update! I'll drop my comcast cable if this thing breaks 20.
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And how's the G2 going to break 20? m bips!?
joebobjoe said:
And how's the G2 going to break 20? m bips!?
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it cant, the max possible is 14.4 i think...
Really? When T-Mo pushes out the 24? G2 won't support it? Gay!!!
Anderdroid said:
Really? When T-Mo pushes out the 24? G2 won't support it? Gay!!!
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Not true.
The current network limitation is 14.4 IIRC but if the network goes 21/24 or whatever it is... the G2 will go right along with it. Hence the HSPA+ moniker they are touting ever so much.
SuperFly03 said:
Not true.
The current network limitation is 14.4 IIRC but if the network goes 21/24 or whatever it is... the G2 will go right along with it. Hence the HSPA+ moniker they are touting ever so much.
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Nope. HSPA+ supports up to 21Mbps at present, but the chip in the G2 does a max of 14.4Mbps, as T-Mobile has stated since months before the launch (even before the G2 was announced they said it would be limited to 14.4). I suppose it is conceivable that a firmware upgrade would lift that limit, but I would not hold your breath.
omarsalmin said:
He might be over 10,000...
However in the end it's still over 9,000!!!!
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Lol +1
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
These are the speeds I got around South Seattle / Renton. Not as high as the OP but so much faster than around Tacoma right now.
kludgineer said:
Nope. HSPA+ supports up to 21Mbps at present, but the chip in the G2 does a max of 14.4Mbps, as T-Mobile has stated since months before the launch (even before the G2 was announced they said it would be limited to 14.4). I suppose it is conceivable that a firmware upgrade would lift that limit, but I would not hold your breath.
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This is true.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7230&c=qualcomm_msm7230
Check under "special features." HSDPA 14.4 is supported. Nothing higher.
And I'm pretty sure that it's a hardware limitation of the chipset, so I don't think any type of firmware upgrade could increase that limit. I'm not 100% sure, though.
I hardly see the need for anything higher than 14.4 Mbps on a mobile phone anyway.
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Yes it wil never say 3G always H or E and really bad G lol. If you wanna see when your on HSPA, UMTS OR EDGE try this widget. I like it. http://drdmkt.com/3b1
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
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I can't seem to get this to work, bummer

Project Leapfrog - Sprint is going to LTE...starting now!

http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...rk-upgrade-is-un/&category=classic&postPage=1
Not sure what they're leapfrogging over, but sure.
Maybe the true EVO 2 will have LTE!
Also says something about the planned upgrade to the current CDMA network, and killing off iDEN.
Like Carbon Fiber? EVO.carbonfibermagic.com
They need to fix project ****ty 3g first.
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They need to fix project ****ty 3g first.
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That's what I think, too!
If they move to LTE, all us us evo owner's should get a free upgrade to an lte phone, as our phones will be useless for what we bought them for.
If the rest of the post is also correct, they are releasing a wimax version of the blackberry tablet later this year...which indicates they aren't phasing out wimax just yet. so, no...prolly not getting a free upgrade out of this.
tejasrichard said:
If the rest of the post is also correct, they are releasing a wimax version of the blackberry tablet later this year...which indicates they aren't phasing out wimax just yet. so, no...prolly not getting a free upgrade out of this.
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Exactly...2-3 years until they're converted to lte, so wimax as normal.
Old news that I've probably mentioned 6 times since posting in this very section. Project Leapfrog was the codename for Sprint's Network Vision. I'm just patiently waiting for Sprint/Clearwire to officially announce LTE is a go, so I could retire this topic. Sprint's ****ty 3G network will be taken care of by this same project they've mentioned since December.
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They need to fix project ****ty 3g first.
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****ing LOL....I about damn near fell off my chair.
but on to other things...yes this is old news
sitlet said:
If they move to LTE, all us us evo owner's should get a free upgrade to an lte phone, as our phones will be useless for what we bought them for.
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By that point you should have a new phone.
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zikronix said:
****ing LOL....I about damn near fell off my chair.
but on to other things...yes this is old news
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Lmfao me too
Sent from my spaceship!
Isn't wimax to LTE as simple as a change in software? I could be wrong but I was under the impression that the wimax chips in our evos could in theory pick up the low frequency signal of LTE. Then again, I have no idea just reposting what I've heard said elsewhere.
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Isn't wimax to LTE as simple as a change in software? I could be wrong but I was under the impression that the wimax chips in our evos could in theory pick up the low frequency signal of LTE. Then again, I have no idea just reposting what I've heard said elsewhere.
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On the tower side, the hardware used in the base-stations can apparently be updated very readily -- swapping some circuit boards, and doing a software update, to make them LTE ready.
As to our phones, there is some disagreement. The LTE spec allows carriers to use frequencies in the range of those that our phones can already receive. Whether the hardware/software combination exists to let our phones receive LTE data, is up to debate. Many say no, but based on the spec, a Wimax antenna operating in the either the 800Mhz, 1.6Ghz or 2Ghz range can receive the signals (see Uplink and Downlink bands here: http://www.radio-electronics.com/in...ong-term-evolution/lte-frequency-spectrum.php), but can the phone discriminate and use what it receives? Who knows...
Great move if you ask me. And I don't know about anyone else but the places I've lived and traveling the Midwest parts of the south and here in the west coast sprints 3g has been my favorite. I also have an att and T-Mobile phone for business.... now talk about ****ty coverage lol.

AT&T City/State HSPA+ Rollout List

Found the following this morning:
2011-Network-Upgrade-Plans
Links at this address take you to AT&T press release pages for HSPA+.
Possible cities getting LTE 1st from a different source...........Not to be confused with the HSPA+ info linked above:
Houston
Puerto Rico
Dallas-Fort Worth
Austin
San Antonio
Charlotte
Raleigh
Let me clarify for the idiots who feel they don't need to follow the link and actually read the press releases....................The link takes you to HSPA+ press releases........................The short list is a list of probable areas which will see LTE 1st! Let me also add that I AM NOT saying this is a matter of actual fact, but I think coming from AT&T press releases, lies or not, it's more accurate than anybody here taking a "guess"!
People shouldn't believe everything they hear and or read.
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People shouldn't believe everything they hear and or read.
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Hear that a lot do you?
I posted this as it's quite possibly an idea of which cities/areas will get HSPA+ this year showing AT&T's press releases. Now, if you have information to the contrary, please post it. If not, please troll somewhere else, or at least say something productive.
How is this "trolling" ? All I said was people shouldn't be so quick to accept these statements as true. Companies can spout all the drivel in the world and until it actually happens then it's nothing but that, drivel.
I don't believe anything until it happens, nor am I optimistic as most people.
Have a nice day, move along now.
rdubyah said:
How is this "trolling" ? All I said was people shouldn't be so quick to accept these statements as true. Companies can spout all the drivel in the world and until it actually happens then it's nothing but that, drivel.
I don't believe anything until it happens, nor am I optimistic as most people.
Have a nice day, move a long now.
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No, that's not what you said.............see your 1st post!
At least this one was somewhat constructive and had some thought go into it. Yes, I believe I will move "along"! Thanks, have a nice day also!
I'll believe it when I see it, until then I will enjoy my pseudo 3g.
I hope they bring it to Dallas first
CaelanT said:
Found the following this morning:
2011-Network-Upgrade-Plans
Links at this address take you to AT&T press release pages.
Possible cities getting LTE 1st:
Houston
Puerto Rico
Dallas-Fort Worth
Austin
San Antonio
Charlotte
Raleigh
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Sweet, I live in between austin and Dallas.. Yay i35 corrador.
k4zyn said:
I hope they bring it to Dallas first
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Makes sense they would get TX set up 1st given that corporate HQ is there.
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well isn't that grand. They are saying by 2012 that they will have less than 10 areas in which their purported high speed will be active? At this rate, our 4g phones will be outdated before 4g is available. so sad at&t...
No one noticed that the name of this thread is "...HSPA+" but the list is for LTE roll-out? Different, incompatible technology, people. The Atrix is NOT an LTE device.
I noticed that too. I was thinking what does LTE have to do with HSPA+ ? And... since the Atrix doesn't support LTE, I'm pining for a 4.3" HTC phone with LTE on AT&T. GSM Thunderbolt?
Hsdpa+ in RI f yeah every network has 4g here lmao
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phobos512 said:
No one noticed that the name of this thread is "...HSPA+" but the list is for LTE roll-out? Different, incompatible technology, people. The Atrix is NOT an LTE device.
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Ever think about reading the damned links?????
The short list I added was a purported future LTE list!
If you follow the link I posted, and actually READ, you will see the following at the bottom of all the press releases:
** 4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul. Will be available in limited areas. Availability increasing with ongoing backhaul deployment. Requires 4G device. Learn more at att.com/network.
<edit> You know, people generally annoy me, but STUPID people really piss me off!
Damn, I didn't notice that.
Boston is supposed to be an HSPA+ city but I never see speeds above what I used to see on my Nexus One (~3.5mbps max)
Can't wait for it to hit Cincy
r34p3rex said:
Boston is supposed to be an HSPA+ city but I never see speeds above what I used to see on my Nexus One (~3.5mbps max)
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I talked to an AT&T rep a little over a week ago about an unrelated issue and asked about the situation here in the Boston area. She said there were no towers she could see listed with dates for upgrades in the area yet for HSPA+, and that some towers still were running 2G. She said they hoped by the end of the year we would be on it.
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I talked to an AT&T rep a little over a week ago about an unrelated issue and asked about the situation here in the Boston area. She said there were no towers she could see listed with dates for upgrades in the area yet for HSPA+, and that some towers still were running 2G. She said they hoped by the end of the year we would be on it.
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Really? I could've sworn I saw on some AT&T map that Boston had HSPA+ enabled
That was exactly my point...you posted a list for LTE which is a different technology than HSPA+. Don't get your panties in a twist there, cupcake.
For the record I replied BEFORE you posted anything about HSPA+. Maybe try reading timestamps before unnecessarily going off on someone.
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Ever think about reading the damned links?????
The short list I added was a purported future LTE list!
If you follow the link I posted, and actually READ, you will see the following at the bottom of all the press releases:
** 4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul. Will be available in limited areas. Availability increasing with ongoing backhaul deployment. Requires 4G device. Learn more at att.com/network.
You know, people generally annoy me, but STUPID people really piss me off!
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[Q] Anybody in the U.S. on 4G yet?

Does anybody got 4G service from AT&T yet? How fast is it? What city are you in?
WhyBe said:
Does anybody got 4G service from AT&T yet? How fast is it? What city are you in?
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Check the dev forum, we can now sbf just the radio from the telstra 1.4.2 which unlocks hsupa. I've averaged about 100 for ping and 2 down/1.4 up in Connecticut. Other users have reported better increases as well as some with less, it will still depend on your area. Flashing the sbf is quick and easy (took me about 10 min to dl and flash) and I haven't had any other issues. Good luck.
Edit: 1.4.2 radio is not our "4g" its just hsupa. Thanks for the correction.
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BBock9 said:
Check the dev forum, we can now sbf just the radio from the telstra 1.4.2 which unlocks our "4g." I've averaged about 100 for ping and 2 down/1.4 up in Connecticut. Other users have reported better increases as well as some with less, it will still depend on your area. Flashing the sbf is quick and easy (took me about 10 min to dl and flash) and I haven't had any other issues. Good luck.
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I'm assuming that 4G has to be officially deployed in my area first?
BBock9 said:
Check the dev forum, we can now sbf just the radio from the telstra 1.4.2 which unlocks our "4g." I've averaged about 100 for ping and 2 down/1.4 up in Connecticut. Other users have reported better increases as well as some with less, it will still depend on your area. Flashing the sbf is quick and easy (took me about 10 min to dl and flash) and I haven't had any other issues. Good luck.
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That's not exactly true. The Telstra radio is only for HSUPA. I get the impression that the op is talking more about download speed, but I could be wrong.
I believe I heard somewhere that they were working on the backhaul and it would be sometime before the end of the year. I don't think I have seen anything reliable about that though, mostly just hearsay and whatnot.
-Doogs™
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I'm assuming that 4G has to be officially deployed in my area first?
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you are correct, it has to come with increase backhaul at the cell sites, which has only been done in a few cities across the US. HSUPA has nothing to do with 4G. HSUPA is the upload component of HSPA, which most cell sites are on now (HSUPA is blocked on the Inspire and Atrix but not on the iPhone or Nexus One, etc). They will only be 4G or HSPA+ when increased backhaul is in place.
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That's not exactly true. The Telstra radio is only for HSUPA. I get the impression that the op is talking more about download speed, but I could be wrong.
I believe I heard somewhere that they were working on the backhaul and it would be sometime before the end of the year. I don't think I have seen anything reliable about that though, mostly just hearsay and whatnot.
-Doogs™
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Yes, I a talking about 4G service in general...up and down.
AT&T is advertising 4G as if it is already widely available.
WhyBe said:
Yes, I a talking about 4G service in general...up and down.
AT&T is advertising 4G as if it is already widely available.
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Yeah it's a bit of sneaky marketing (though unfortunately not uncommon).
The phone is certainly capable, however the service is not.
-Doogs™
HSPA does not equal HSPA+.
The HSUPA update unlocks 3g speed, which is HSPA.
Without the HSUPA we are basically on crippled 3g.
HSPA+, or '4g' (more like 3.5g) will come when AT&T finally gets around to deploying the enhanced backhaul to your particular city or region.
WhyBe said:
Yes, I a talking about 4G service in general...up and down.
AT&T is advertising 4G as if it is already widely available.
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http://www.att.com/network/#fbid=dhk1UG4sZJo
click on the coverage map, and run your mouse over the map. cities that have some backhaul in place will pop up like Chicago.
also, note their disclaimer anytime you see or read about 4G
*4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul. Available in limited areas. Availability increasing with ongoing backhaul deployment.
WhyBe said:
Yes, I a talking about 4G service in general...up and down.
AT&T is advertising 4G as if it is already widely available.
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AT&T's 4G network coverage map shows Baltimore as 4G enabled but I haven't seen any 4G speeds here. The fastest download speeds I have seen in Baltimore downtown area were close to 5.5Mbps. The recent radio mod does not seem to increase the download speeds.
Immix said:
AT&T's 4G network coverage map shows Baltimore as 4G enabled but I haven't seen any 4G speeds here. The fastest download speeds I have seen in Baltimore downtown area were close to 5.5Mbps. The recent radio mod does not seem to increase the download speeds.
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Welcome to AT&T '4g' lol.
MrCooper2012 said:
That's not exactly true. The Telstra radio is only for HSUPA. I get the impression that the op is talking more about download speed, but I could be wrong.
I believe I heard somewhere that they were working on the backhaul and it would be sometime before the end of the year. I don't think I have seen anything reliable about that though, mostly just hearsay and whatnot.
-Doogs™
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Thanks for clearing that up for me. I guess I just got excited for any new radio that would give us what we pay for...
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Immix said:
AT&T's 4G network coverage map shows Baltimore as 4G enabled but I haven't seen any 4G speeds here. The fastest download speeds I have seen in Baltimore downtown area were close to 5.5Mbps. The recent radio mod does not seem to increase the download speeds.
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that is better than what I get! When I was in chicago a few months ago I saw the same speeds. your download speeds are much greater than my 3G speeds at 1.5-2 Mbps here in Denver. I assume that once more backhaul is in place across the country, that 5.5 number will go up. Also, I think I read somewhere on ATT's site that 6Mbps down would be typical of their 4G deployed this year. let me see if I can find where that is stated, I could be making it up
edit: here is that link
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115947
ATT Website said:
Question:
Just how fast is AT&T 4G?
Answer:
With enhanced backhaul AT&T is seeing network speeds up to approximately 6 Mbps. Actual speeds experienced will vary and depend on several factors, including location, device, environment, and capacity. LTE is expected to deliver even faster speeds.
Note: 4G speeds require a 4G device and are delivered when HSPA+ technology is combined with enhanced backhaul. 4G speeds are available in select cities with availability increasing with ongoing backhaul deployment. For information on currently available 4G markets, see 4G Speed from AT&T and select the Coverage map.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me. I guess I just got excited for any new radio that would give us what we pay for...
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Yeah, no problem.
Also I occasionally try to get a response from AT&T about this, and as of a few minutes ago they responded to me on Facebook.
Random AT&T Rep on Facebook™ said:
The HSUPA upgrade is coming soon! As for 4G we've already expanded HSPA+ to virtually 100 percent of our mobile broadband network. That combined with expanded backhaul produces 4G speeds. We expect about 2/3 of our mobile broadband traffic to be carried over expanded backhaul by the end of the year, but we don't have an ETA to share on Dallas quite yet. Thanks for your patience!
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So it seems it's just more of the same for a while longer.
-Doogs™
I assume that once more backhaul is in place across the country, that 5.5 number will go up.
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Why do you assume that? I would assume the opposite really, though I would hope it won't be noticeable. I would assume once a tower is connected it is connected and that the more towers you connect the less bandwidth there is left to share.
catfarm said:
Why do you assume that? I would assume the opposite really, though I would hope it won't be noticeable. I would assume once a tower is connected it is connected and that the more towers you connect the less bandwidth there is left to share.
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I assume this because once they get the enhanced backhaul in place, they can continue to "enhance" said backhaul and not let it get stagnant. of course, that may take a while. but, this is just an assumption and has no scientific backing
Wait, so this update coming out this month isn't even supposed to bring '4G' (HSPA+)? It's only supposed to bring us to full '3G', and later this year we get the full '4G'?
I'd be happy with just having 3g installed where I am!
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This is a why I am so happy about the AT&T and T-Mobile merger. Regardless of it going through and no matter how long it drags on, part of it was a big roaming agreement. I am being optimistic that includes 4G because my area has T-Mobile's 21mb speed. I could handle that.
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anyone heard about this

i got a call from my buddy from sprint and he said in 20 days sprint is gonna buy and get verizons 4gLTE
anyone know if this is true or not.
i know that the nexus is getting a update hopefully this week that is suppose to boost 4g and wifi connection. so thats a bit of a hint
what you guys know about this
I have heard that they were going to be using LightSquared possibly. Not sure if that is VZWs LTE provider, but since Sprint uses VZWs 3G towers, I can't see why they won't strike a roaming contract with them again.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/analysis-sprint-inching-closer-lte-announcement/2011-06-20
Joey_UFC said:
i got a call from my buddy from sprint and he said in 20 days sprint is gonna buy and get verizons 4gLTE
anyone know if this is true or not.
i know that the nexus is getting a update hopefully this week that is suppose to boost 4g and wifi connection. so thats a bit of a hint
what you guys know about this
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An LTE roll out for Sprint will happen.
It's been talked about that Sprint may embrace both LTE and Wimax standards.
However, it's not an instant process and a phone would have to have an LTE radio to use the LTE band.
mattykinsx said:
An LTE roll out for Sprint will happen.
It's been talked about that Sprint may embrace both LTE and Wimax standards.
However, it's not an instant process and a phone would have to have an LTE radio to use the LTE band.
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so this isn't something we should be expecting in the 20 days i heard, or even soon for that matter
1 more thing, if sprint does get LTE, do they lose the wimax if they decide to no longer be with ClearWire?
Joey_UFC said:
so this isn't something we should be expecting in the 20 days i heard, or even soon for that matter
1 more thing, if sprint does get LTE, do they lose the wimax if they decide to no longer be with ClearWire?
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In 20 days some sort of deal might go down, or they might start some sort of project, but there's no way they can instantly switch and certainly not in such a short timeframe.
IF Sprint drops Clearwire then yes, Wimax would not work with Sprint phones.
It's been suggested that Sprint may go to quadband phones though.
Who knows. I'm not even sure Sprint does, which is part of the problem.
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In 20 days some sort of deal might go down, or they might start some sort of project, but there's no way they can instantly switch and certainly not in such a short timeframe.
IF Sprint drops Clearwire then yes, Wimax would not work with Sprint phones.
It's been suggested that Sprint may go to quadband phones though.
Who knows. I'm not even sure Sprint does, which is part of the problem.
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Well in the link he posted above, the article said that they plan on making a Sprint-Clearwire-LightSquared combination.
its a stretch to make it happen but its possible
Joey_UFC said:
Well in the link he posted above, the article said that they plan on making a Sprint-Clearwire-LightSquared combination.
its a stretch to make it happen but its possible
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I wouldn't doubt it.
Sounds like a good idea actually.
And it coincides with the idea that Sprint might just run both standards along side CDMA (which would eventually be phased out, eventually.)
Both LTE and Wimax have uses.
Why shouldn't both technologies be used for what they do best?
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I wouldn't doubt it.
Sounds like a good idea actually.
And it coincides with the idea that Sprint might just run both standards along side CDMA (which would eventually be phased out, eventually.)
Both LTE and Wimax have uses.
Why shouldn't both technologies be used for what they do best?
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ok just so i got this right and don't start rambling about things idk
LTE is 4g alone or is it Both 4g and Wimax.
cause if thats the case then why hold onto Clearwires Wimax?
Joey_UFC said:
ok just so i got this right and don't start rambling about things idk
LTE is 4g alone or is it Both 4g and Wimax.
cause if thats the case then why hold onto Clearwires Wimax?
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Neither are true "4g"
Both are just different technology standards (well not even standards lol).
Its just like wireless a, b, g or n.
Just different "standards" for wirelessly transfering data.
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Neither are true "4g"
Both are just different technology standards (well not even standards lol).
Its just like wireless a, b, g or n.
Just different "standards" for wirelessly transfering data.
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what do you mean by "true 4g"
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what do you mean by "true 4g"
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In 2009, the ITU-R organization specified the IMT-Advanced (International Mobile Telecommunications Advanced) requirements for 4G standards, setting peak speed requirements for 4G service at 100 Mbit/s for high mobility communication (such as from trains and cars) and 1 Gbit/s for low mobility communication (such as pedestrians and stationary users).[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
Basically, 1 Gbit/s when not moving, 100mbit/s when moving and VOIP.
Everything runs through data.
Texting, Voice as well.
lte is awesome, if you use your phone as it comes out of box. ask any thunderbolt owner what happens when you throw an aosp rom on top of the lte radio...
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lte is awesome, if you use your phone as it comes out of box. ask any thunderbolt owner what happens when you throw an aosp rom on top of the lte radio...
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It has nothing to do with LTE and all to do with the spectrum used by Verizon.
Wimax would be just as "awesome" if at the same frequency.
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It has nothing to do with LTE and all to do with the spectrum used by Verizon.
Wimax would be just as "awesome" if at the same frequency.
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no, your not following me. im not talking about lte itself. im talking ril and the actual radio.

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