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I want to buy a phone that can do widescreen photography with a minimal budget and the xperia neo seems to fit best. Xperia ray has too small a screen for my liking so thats not an option.
Anyways researching the xperia neo I have encountered one big problem, it seems it's display is quite reflective and not as good as the xperia arc outdoors?? Can anyone please confirm if this is the case?
Bad performance outdoors is a complete deal breaker for me. However I have used xperia arc and I found it's display to have excellent outdoor performance. I assumed the xperia neo would be the same but seems like it isnt from the reviews.
One reviewer noted that it's screen is recessed unlike the arc which brings more reflectivity.
Don't know about the screens but I'd say get the Arc if the budget allows it.
Bigger screen, looks better and has more devs like (not 100% sure about devs).
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Don't know about the screens but I'd say get the Arc if the budget allows it.
Bigger screen, looks better and has more devs like (not 100% sure about devs).
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It cracks.
I cant take chances because we dont have any SE service centers here, we get no warranty so if my arc cracks then I'll just have to live with it.
Plus there are a couple of other issues I have with the arc. I want a phone with a camera button and the one on the arc I find as good as not having one at all. Secondly the placement of the sensor at the back is going to cause some trouble as well. The neo has perfect placement and what seems like a fairly comfortable camera button.
Plus it's also noticeably cheaper so I wont be paying the same money for a smaller screen.
Then get the Neo if you find it so much better
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If you want camera then BUY camera...if you want phone..then buy phone. Trust me...you don't get 2in1 good phone and camera together
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I have both, and both have their advantages and problems.
Arc:
+ Display is much better both in colors (warmer, everything looks quite cold on the Neo)
+ Display has more brightness and better in hard sunlight
- Camera position is annoying from time to time
- Shutter key is hard to press
Neo:
+ Better shutter key
+ Better camera placement
- Display has colder tones
- Display not as bright or legible in sunlight
The difference is small, but I think I'd prefer the Neo as a cameraphone simply because of the better camera placement and shutter button.
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I have both, and both have their advantages and problems.
Neo:
- Display not as bright or legible in sunlight
The difference is small, but I think I'd prefer the Neo as a cameraphone simply because of the better camera placement and shutter button.
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Use the disable auto brightness app from the market, or flash MIUI, and the Neo's display will become very bright too.
I agree with your last point. I've had phones with a corner placed camera before, and the lens is much easier to cover. (Only when holding it with two hands in landscape though).
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I never said it's so much better.
The deal breaker for me more than anything are the cracks, the price difference isnt huge.
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Use the disable auto brightness app from the market, or flash MIUI, and the Neo's display will become very bright too.
I agree with your last point. I've had phones with a corner placed camera before, and the lens is much easier to cover. (Only when holding it with two hands in landscape though).
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Shouldnt the auto brightness make it go maximum bright under sunlight? Or does the auto brightness puts a cap on maximum brightness as well?
Whats the latest version for the neo? With the neo V the automatic brightness is disabled at 100% brightness, is that feature not available on the neo?
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I realise phone camera shortcomings and I do have a fairly good sony cybershot camera but I really cant be bothered to carry it around everywhere and thus many a times I am in a situation where I have no camera and a crappy phone.
I wont be rooting my phone, I am not that sort of a power user. I know for sure the neo V disables auto brightness at 100% and has a really bright screen. It would totally suck if sony hasnt brought this feature to the neo, I mean it's a software thing afterall so it cant be a problem for them can it.
Neo and Neo V are identical aside the camera sensor. If you put the brightness on the Neo on 100% it'll just use the maximum brightness at all times.
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Shouldnt the auto brightness make it go maximum bright under sunlight? Or does the auto brightness puts a cap on maximum brightness as well?
Whats the latest version for the neo? With the neo V the automatic brightness is disabled at 100% brightness, is that feature not available on the neo?
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Auto brightness is indeed disabled when brightness is at 100%, but if you install the disable auto brighness app, the brightness seems like 2 times as high when you set it at 100%. So yes, the brightness is limited without the auto brightness app.
I feel no problems with shutter key on my Arc S.
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Auto brightness is indeed disabled when brightness is at 100%, but if you install the disable auto brighness app, the brightness seems like 2 times as high when you set it at 100%. So yes, the brightness is limited without the auto brightness app.
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Now isnt that just stupid sony ericsson.
The display test of xperia neo on gsmarena reveals a 100% brightness of 513nits which is quite remarkable. How come other websites were saying that the display is dim? What gives this is so confusing.
The neo has a contrast of above 1500 at gsmarena review, thats pretty unbelievable surely they have got something wrong?
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_neo-review-595p2.php
Btw can you tell me how reflective the display is regardless of brightness?
I think I might have figured this out. In the xperia arc review at gsmarena they show a max brightness of just 134 for xperia neo. They hadnt yet reviewed the neo. One month later they give a full review to neo and it's max brightness is off the roof.
Was there some software problem that was later fixed? Maybe most of the reviews talking about poor sunlight performance had the version which was seriously crippled with brightness?
I use the widgetsoid widget to control the brightness (AUTO) on my ARC and it works really well.
As for the cracks - had my phone for over 4 months and not a single crack at all.
Have found the camera very good in good light and ok in poorer light. Yes the button is tricky so I use the 'touch' screen option.
Only downside (from any camera phone) is that there isn't any optical zoom but there is nothing you can do about it.
Hope this helps!
I am totally buying the neo if it's display is actually what it seems like at gsmarena.
0.31 black with 513 brightness, no other non sony phone can do this with an LCD.
I need more xperia neo owners to comment please and especially those who have used both arc and neo.
Nevermind I bumped into this thread and it seems like gsmarena got some magical units and most other people dont experience such brightness levels.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320651
Thanks guys, I dont think I'll be getting the neo.
Hello all. I had the XZ for around a week and a bit. I returned the device as I found the camera hugely disappointing in comparison to my old XS, which is a great snapper.
Camera quality is a big draw for me so I'm excited to hear that Sony have overhauled the crippling camera algorythms for this latest software update. I'm considering getting another XZ, as the S4 really doesn't interest me and the One's camera is patently sh*te in daylight conditions.
So, help please: Could you post pictures taken by your Z with the new software? I'm really keen to see the improvement and judge for myself.
(And, if anyone who has owned both could tell me, after the update, which is the better camera, the Xz or the XS?)
Well I have both devices and even before the update I felt the Zs camera was much better. The Ss camera held more detail. Yes! But that only gave it an advantage in daylight conditions. In all other conditions, the Z beats it hands down. The amount of noise on the Ss pictures are horrendous! Especially indoors and in low light.
After the update, the Z makes up the ground in detail but a lot of noise is also invited into the picture. Again, that's indoors and under low light.
The Zs camera is, as it's always been much better than the Ss.
Attached is a picture taken after the update, you can check the detail it preserves for yourself.
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Here it is.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41689369
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Great comparisson. Detail seems higher now (thank god!) but noise is also higher, it seems. It's a trade off I can accept.
Keep 'em coming
Well I have both devices and even before the update I felt the Zs camera was much better. The Ss camera held more detail. Yes! But that only gave it an advantage in daylight conditions. In all other conditions, the Z beats it hands down. The amount of noise on the Ss pictures are horrendous! Especially indoors and in low light.
After the update, the Z makes up the ground in detail but a lot of noise is also invited into the picture. Again, that's indoors and under low light.
The Zs camera is, as it's always been much better than the Ss.
Attached is a picture taken after the update, you can check the detail it preserves for yourself.
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Great comparisson. Detail seems higher now (thank god!) but noise is also higher, it seems. It's a trade off I can accept.
Keep 'em coming
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Noise is higher when using superior auto, but with the normal mode it's pretty good I think.
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I didn't use superior auto in any of the pictures I posted, only normal mode with HDR on-off. If I used night mode/scene then the quality would be a lot better though. But I didn't thought of it at that time. You can see night mode pictures in the topic where I posted my pictures.
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uncompressed png taken with camera f5.. Image quality is a load better in .253 firmware!
Image on flickr uploaded using it's new "original" mode and it's 1TB of free storage, good job as the png is 15mb change the resolution if you want to see the original.
Grey and dreary day with poor light, I think the quality is pretty decent now, there's no way at all the earlier fw would have picked up the matting on the moorhen nesting raft.
http://flic.kr/p/eo44Gk
Xperia S first, Z second.
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Xperia S first, Z second.
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uncompressed png taken with camera f5.. Image quality is a load better in .253 firmware!
Image on flickr uploaded using it's new "original" mode and it's 1TB of free storage, good job as the png is 15mb change the resolution if you want to see the original.
Grey and dreary day with poor light, I think the quality is pretty decent now, there's no way at all the earlier fw would have picked up the matting on the moorhen nesting raft.
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What is camera f5??
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What is camera f5??
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Camera fv5 is a camera app!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
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Camera fv5 is a camera app!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
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Cheers mate for the quick reply!
on auto mode size 4.2 MB
Here is some comparison of latest .253 Xperia Z camera v/s Galaxy Note II v/s iPhone 5.
My View:
1st pic - Exposure control the best in Xperia Z, iPhone 5 second, Note II is completely out, it is over expose.
2nd pic - Note II the best here, 2nd is iPhone 5, lastly Xperia Z.
3rd pic - Xperia Z still much closer to actual color - the best, Note II - not clear and not sharp, iPhone 5 - clear and sharp but too bright than actual.
In overall summary of 3 device camera:
Xperia Z - due to some issue on the superior auto mode which only generate noise now, need to pick scene mode or manual adjust for decent output. Point and shoot will be easier once Sony fix the Superior Mode. Now you still can get a decent in details just more step is required.
Note II - Probably due to too big size or whatever, it is easier get blur image, need some pressure to hold tide for decent output.
iPhone 5 - don't have much fancy setting, but iPhone 5 is the most easier point and shoot, you get 100% sharp in details image.
More camera shoot comparison of Xperia Z v/s iPhone 5. (No Note II this time as the owner not around).
My View:
1st photo - iPhone 5 win here, it capture more details than Xperia Z.
2nd photo - Both quite equal, but I like Xperia Z leaf color + iPhone 5 water pool color.
3rd photo - This one I give winner to Xperia Z, they is big sunlight there, Xperia Z can capture the light and color look alive.
4th photo - Obvious iPhone 5 great control of noise than Xperia Z here. Color wise iPhone 5 still a bit not correct as the light there is yellow spotlight rather than brown.
More Xperia Z .253 ROM - Camera test out:
For me it's simple, the superior auto mode on the Z isn't very good at all. It gets the white balance completely wrong. I think it's the auto setting for white balance, it doesn't seem to work. The camera focuses better when you select the right WB. Taking and posting auto shots of the Z does the camera a great disservice. The Xperia Zs camera right now, simply cannot function well as a point and shooter until Sony fixes the WB in auto mode.
For now, you've got to use normal camera and adjust the settings manually. It's straightforward, only four options, incandescent for low light, florescent for strong artificial lighting, daylight for clear blue skies and cloudy for well, as the name says, when the sunlight is obstructed by clouds.
As far as I'm concerned, fixing the auto WB issue as well as improving the quick focus would have done more to improve the Zs picture quality than the removal of image processing algorithms. For me, it did a lot of work cleaning up the pics. It certainly needed better and more intelligent implementation but that's all. Doesn't need to be canned.
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With New firmware. Haven't got a similar photo to compare but it appears more crisp and true to life than before the update.
I'm on an unbranded UK XZ, with global update 253 (one linked to in the flashtool tut thread)
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Again S first, Z second
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From tomorrow on my blog, link in my signature, I am starting a daily mega review of the Sony Xperia Z1 and QX10 lens, along with a number of accessories. Each day over the next several weeks will add more and more.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Camera shoot out now live Z1 vs 5S http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/...xperia-z1-share-you-view-on-the-better-phone/
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From tomorrow on my blog, link in my signature, I am starting a daily mega review of the Sony Xperia Z1 and QX10 lens, along with a number of accessories. Each day over the next several weeks will add more and more.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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Hey mate where did u get your Z1 from?
From Clove Technology www.clove.co.uk
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Qx10 not come out yet right?
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Hey buddy,
Where's the link for your blog ?
M looking for screen contrast ratio, sunlight contrast demonstration (video) and headphone audio loudness....
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Qx10 not come out yet right?
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It is available from www.sony.co.uk their own store. I bought it on Sunday and it got delivered yesterday. Just writing the first impressions with some photos now. Will be live in 90 mins approx.
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Hey buddy,
Where's the link for your blog ?
M looking for screen contrast ratio, sunlight contrast demonstration (video) and headphone audio loudness....
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It is in my signature and it is www.gavinsgadgets.co.uk .If you use search top right and enter QX10 or Xperia Z1 you will get all the previous posts on either the QX10 or Z1.
Ok. Next part of the Z1 review up tomorrow as well as the QX10 lens.
Don't be afraid to ask questions
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Appart from the obvious 10x optical zoom, have you noticed any advantages on using the QX10 instead of the Z1's 20.7 mpix G lens 1/2.3shooter?
Are photos that better with the 1/2.3 18 mpix QX10? Is it worth? Or should we wait for the more capable (one inch sensor) QX100?
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gtrab said:
Appart from the obvious 10x optical zoom, have you noticed any advantages on using the QX10 instead of the Z1's 20.7 mpix G lens 1/2.3shooter?
Are photos that better with the 1/2.3 18 mpix QX10? Is it worth? Or should we wait for the more capable (one inch sensor) QX100?
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From my perspective the QX10 delivers much better quality photos. I would use it for stills not motion though. It has superior low light, nearly noise free, sharp and clear. However, it will be more convenient to carry once the spa-acx2 case is available, since you can reduce its thickness by removing the clamp section.
However, you have no real control over the QX10. It is designed to be used in auto mode. That is not necessarily a bad thing, but if you want proper control you need the QX100, which I will be getting soon. From all the descriptions by Sony, I didnt expect the QX10 to have such good low light photos. So it makes me wonder how much better the QX100 wil be.
I reckon it will be better manual control and slightly better quality optics.
The Z1 camera firmware really needs improving. The danger here is in 3-6 months Sony have addressed this, and the QX10 might only be useful for zoom. Somehow, I still think the QX10 will always take better quality shots though.
So, it DOES take better pictures than the Z1's sensor?
Better quality yes. Z1 camera has more fancy options due to its speed and effects
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As I sold my HTC One to get a better camera phone I hope Sony update the firmware as fast as they can. The HTC One took very good photo's but the 4mp was lacking for detail in my opinion and it was nowhere near as good as my trusty 'old' Lumia 920 camera which I was very impressed by.
Going to wait a few months and see if the camera improves if not will seriously consider the QX10 with the Sony case for attaching it onto which looks seriously cool.
Hello Gavin!
Long time no see!
I am too thinking of swapping from HTC One to Z1 due to purple tint issue in the camera.
Though is it worth it to take the Z1 instead of other phones like S4 and G2 just for the 20mp?
Camera is important for me but the 170g and large bezel of the Z1 are crazy no?
Also what about the screen under sunlight?
Even if not as good as the One,is it usable for texting for example?
vegetaleb said:
Hello Gavin!
Long time no see!
I am too thinking of swapping from HTC One to Z1 due to purple tint issue in the camera.
Though is it worth it to take the Z1 instead of other phones like S4 and G2 just for the 20mp?
Camera is important for me but the 170g and large bezel of the Z1 are crazy no?
Also what about the screen under sunlight?
Even if not as good as the One,is it usable for texting for example?
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I wouldn't go back to the htc one. The z1 camera needs firmware tweaking. 20mp doesn't equal great shots. I wouldn't get either samsung . the z1 build quality is fantastic. Waterproof etc. No sunshine yet. So can't tell you. Texting etc is fine. Default keyboard can be customised. I think its swiftkey.
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Default keyboard can be customised. I think its swiftkey.
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That is interesting, seeing as I purchased SwiftKey for the S4.
I must find some time to at the very least look at my Z1.
It arrived Wed so that is three days the package has sat waiting to be opened....
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That is interesting, seeing as I purchased SwiftKey for the S4.
I must find some time to at the very least look at my Z1.
It arrived Wed so that is three days the package has sat waiting to be opened....
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3 days
It is well worth even a slight peek.
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3 days
It is well worth even a slight peek.
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Trouble is if I do have a peek it will end up with me picking it up, then reaching for the rest of the box contents.....
The next thing I would find myself putting the phone on charge, and I just know although I would be sat working the temptation to keep looking across at the soft glowing red light waiting for the change to green would be just too tempting.
So no, not even a peek Gavin.
This is all over the internet, when the note 3 brightness is set on auto brightness it reaches very high levels of brightness which u cant reach if set manually to the maximum.. am I right ? Anyone owning the two devices tested this and found the same results?? And how is the whites on the note 3 in general compared to the lg g2..?
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This is all over the internet, when the note 3 brightness is set on auto brightness it reaches very high levels of brightness which u cant reach if set manually to the maximum.. am I right ? Anyone owning the two devices tested this and found the same results?? And how is the whites on the note 3 in general compared to the lg g2..?
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I think the LG G2 display is great. Max brightness is pretty bright, I can't see why anyone would want it even brighter. Auto brightness levels are a pain, but that can easily be fixed by using Lux to manage it. If you measure quality in brightness alone, you may be better off buying a flashlight.
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This is all over the internet, when the note 3 brightness is set on auto brightness it reaches very high levels of brightness which u cant reach if set manually to the maximum.. am I right ? Anyone owning the two devices tested this and found the same results?? And how is the whites on the note 3 in general compared to the lg g2..?
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Even if it was brighter,tell me that again after 4-5 months.When the oled will lose a very significant amount of its brightness...and will probably have a very nasty burn in,that will stay there forever for the used to see lol
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Even if it was brighter,tell me that again after 4-5 months.When the oled will lose a very significant amount of its brightness...and will probably have a very nasty burn in,that will stay there forever for the used to see lol
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That is absolutely right!!!
AMOLEDS hate full brightness and full, direct UV light exposure!!! (Sun, office lamps, tanning beds, etc) LOL
IPS all the way for me!!!
Cheers!
I have both the Note 3 and the G2. The Note 3 does indeed get brighter at maximum brightness, it actually becomes painful on the eyes because of the contrast ratio of the AMOLED screen. It's so bright it hurts to look at it in the dark. The IPS screen on the G2 is much more pleasant to look at in my opinion, that's one of the reason I use it as my daily phone.
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This is all over the internet, when the note 3 brightness is set on auto brightness it reaches very high levels of brightness which u cant reach if set manually to the maximum.. am I right ? Anyone owning the two devices tested this and found the same results?? And how is the whites on the note 3 in general compared to the lg g2..?
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My wife has a g2 while I have the note 3. The note 3 goes into a extra brightness mode in direct sunlight and is clearly more visible than the g2 outside in direct sunlight. This mode only occurs in direct sunlight on auto brightness and can not be turned up that high manually.
While the g2 screen is nice, I do notice that the viewing angles are not as good and the scree don't seem as crisp and clear as my note. Still a great screen
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Well thanks all, this means the note at first is better specially under direct sunlight or so but it has the burn in issue and so on, so I guess I'll stick with the g2 then
I only asked this question because I feel that blacks are much more pleasant to look at on the note than the grey blacks on the g2
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Well thanks all, this means the note at first is better specially under direct sunlight or so but it has the burn in issue and so on, so I guess I'll stick with the g2 then
I only asked this question because I feel that blacks are much more pleasant to look at on the note than the grey blacks on the g2
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The burn in shouldn't be an issue. Only phones u will see burn in on are display units ramped up to full brightness and stuck on the home screen for hours and hours.
I had a galaxy s3 for almost 2 years and it had no burn in and the screen was still bright. Oled has come a long way since the first amoled screens.
People say the same thing about plasma but plasma has a superior picture vs lcd...my plasma in my bedroom is 3 years old and stays on sportscenter and I have no burn in
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Big fat no. Put them side by side and judge for yourself. I did when i bought this phone and saw the difference for myself.
Note 3 is bigger yes but not better...
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Big fat no. Put them side by side and judge for yourself. I did when i bought this phone and saw the difference for myself.
Note 3 is bigger yes but not better...
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All of my last devices have been amoled until the g2. Had burn in issues on 2 galaxy fascinates, and blotchy low-light darks on 3 droid razrs. And yes, amoleds do degrade in color/contrast over time. Not a big deal if you swap out or jump up devices frequently, but if you go the contract term it gets noticeable.
What swung me back to LCD was the purchase of a nexus 10 over the summer. The HD LCD blew me away & convinced me of how far this technology has come.
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i have no problem at all viewing my g2 screen in direct sunlight on 100% brightness... the g2s screen is alot better in my opinion i just wish the blacks were alittle darker
My roomate has the Note 3. I made him sit with me and do a bunch of browsing battles and gaming/app opening challenges. Throughout these "competetive" tests I notices that the Note 3 does definetly have a brighter state on auto and max brightness, but I found that my G2 had a clearer, brighter minimum brightness (which is what I always leave Marge on). Yes my G2's name is marge. But that Amoled screen is just a contrast machine and I think that helps elude to the brighter screen we see, since it's blacks are so deep. But as for an overall screen? G2 all the way. Edge to edge, excellent viewing angles for what I need and amazing color reproduction that the Note 3 couldn't quite match. Hope this helps anyone!
xperia z1 has 441 pixel density, but the display look similar to other lower pixel density phone like xperia sola. why?can someone explain? z1 shown on sony centre booth for hands on has a very crisp display, am i being cheated?
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xperia z1 has 441 pixel density, but the display look similar to other lower pixel density phone like xperia sola. why?can someone explain? z1 shown on sony centre booth for hands on has a very crisp display, am i being cheated?
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Well my friend its share you got this phone if can't tell the difference... How sharp the screen looks depends on the image it shows.... Also you can open any Internet browser on both z1 And sola As you mention, then open any web page with text And zoom in all the way if you still can't see the difference Then you need to get glasses or Have your eyes checked... Peace
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Well higher resolution means that you will see worse display from low quality material and epic quality from full HD material. DVD rips looked fine on my Xperia Play (480x854) and on XZ1 they don't look good.
If you have a big TV or monitor above 23" you surely will know what I'm talking about.
Websites, UI and stuff like this look perfectly fine. It's up to the resolution how does it look on the screen.
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I kinda noticed "grainyness" with the display when viewing videos. Really didn't like it at all, and it looked bad compared to the Xperia S I had been using a week prior.
Well, I found that while the X-Reality setting made colours "pop" in videos and pictures, things seemed to get kinda grainy looking. I've been running with it off for a few days now, and I reckon it looks much clearer now. Plus, vids and pics don't look like they have been artificially tweaked with.
This is the worst 1080p screen I have ever seen in a mobile phone.
Phone is owesome, but the screen!!!
don have any problems with the display ! its super sharp and to notice the diff. u need to view a full HD image any low quality pic will look worse as the display will DISPLAY more of it hope u got what i mean.
Another test open any PDf .. on 1080p displays you will read the texts much easier but on low ppi u will need to zoom in alittle to make it clear.
ashouhdy said:
Another test open any PDf .. on 1080p displays you will read the texts much easier but on low ppi u will need to zoom in alittle to make it clear.
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I have to agree, this screen sucks compared to any other 1080p screen. But I have to admit there are moments when the screen makes me say wow that looks amazing but unfortunately the Sun moon and stars have to line up correctly for me to say that
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shook187 said:
But I have to admit there are moments when the screen makes me say wow that looks amazing but unfortunately the Sun moon and stars have to line up correctly for me to say that
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LOL! so is not that bad..:laugh:
Hate Android Lag said:
xperia z1 has 441 pixel density, but the display look similar to other lower pixel density phone like xperia sola. why?can someone explain? z1 shown on sony centre booth for hands on has a very crisp display, am i being cheated?
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Sola is 3.7 inches and has a ppi of 265.
300 dpi is the norm when printing beyond which telling the difference gets harder.
you're about 40 ppi away from being able to tell the difference. The difference will not be that significant but if you look carefully it will be there. Which to you means the display looks similar. Had the sola screen been bigger and the ppi around 200 then the difference would have been more prominent when compared to Z1.
Hate Android Lag said:
xperia z1 has 441 pixel density, but the display look similar to other lower pixel density phone like xperia sola. why?can someone explain? z1 shown on sony centre booth for hands on has a very crisp display, am i being cheated?
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turn off x reality engine.
Very, very happy with the screen here, nice and bright, sharp, lovely colours, especially when coming from an amoled. Even the viewing angles are not quite as bad as some complain and through my eyes, the white looks white.
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Very, very happy with the screen here, nice and bright, sharp, lovely colours, especially when coming from an amoled. Even the viewing angles are not quite as bad as some complain and through my eyes, the white looks white.
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Other than white, everything else looked great on AMOLED. Coming from Note.
Even when Compared to Nexus 5 LCD, Z1 display lacks lusture. Nexus 5 and other 1080p display phones have amazing contrast and colors.
taranfx said:
Other than white, everything else looked great on AMOLED. Coming from Note.
Even when Compared to Nexus 5 LCD, Z1 display lacks lusture. Nexus 5 and other 1080p display phones have amazing contrast and colors.
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Come from a note too, honestly enjoyed Amoled, however, I am really not sure where the complaints are coming from.
There's some threads claiming not all the screens are the same, I'm either viewing my display from tired eyes or I got lucky, no idea.
Put it this way, side by side with my wife's note 3, the only thing I'm jealous about is the IR blaster.
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ishaqs60 said:
Well my friend its share you got this phone if can't tell the difference... How sharp the screen looks depends on the image it shows.... Also you can open any Internet browser on both z1 And sola As you mention, then open any web page with text And zoom in all the way if you still can't see the difference Then you need to get glasses or Have your eyes checked... Peace
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well, on the same vintage theme(stock theme), i noticed that the theme looks sharper & crispier in the z1 at sony booth. in my z1, the vintage theme doesnt looks sharp & crisp, just normal.
I checked other phones including G2, Note 3, S4. Z1 has no match. But I hear Sony uses different brands of displays for the variants of its phones. If it's true, different users from different areas around the world will have different results. I watched full hd movies, pictures, photos from z1. The results are significantly better than other high end phones. But do not expect hight quality resolution from low quality media. You can't have it. That's why SD broadcast sucks at full hd screens. I even witnessed 4K television showed a full hd video in very low qualty.