From tomorrow on my blog, link in my signature, I am starting a daily mega review of the Sony Xperia Z1 and QX10 lens, along with a number of accessories. Each day over the next several weeks will add more and more.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Camera shoot out now live Z1 vs 5S http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/...xperia-z1-share-you-view-on-the-better-phone/
gavinfabl said:
From tomorrow on my blog, link in my signature, I am starting a daily mega review of the Sony Xperia Z1 and QX10 lens, along with a number of accessories. Each day over the next several weeks will add more and more.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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Hey mate where did u get your Z1 from?
From Clove Technology www.clove.co.uk
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Qx10 not come out yet right?
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Hey buddy,
Where's the link for your blog ?
M looking for screen contrast ratio, sunlight contrast demonstration (video) and headphone audio loudness....
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Qx10 not come out yet right?
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It is available from www.sony.co.uk their own store. I bought it on Sunday and it got delivered yesterday. Just writing the first impressions with some photos now. Will be live in 90 mins approx.
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Hey buddy,
Where's the link for your blog ?
M looking for screen contrast ratio, sunlight contrast demonstration (video) and headphone audio loudness....
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It is in my signature and it is www.gavinsgadgets.co.uk .If you use search top right and enter QX10 or Xperia Z1 you will get all the previous posts on either the QX10 or Z1.
Ok. Next part of the Z1 review up tomorrow as well as the QX10 lens.
Don't be afraid to ask questions
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Appart from the obvious 10x optical zoom, have you noticed any advantages on using the QX10 instead of the Z1's 20.7 mpix G lens 1/2.3shooter?
Are photos that better with the 1/2.3 18 mpix QX10? Is it worth? Or should we wait for the more capable (one inch sensor) QX100?
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Appart from the obvious 10x optical zoom, have you noticed any advantages on using the QX10 instead of the Z1's 20.7 mpix G lens 1/2.3shooter?
Are photos that better with the 1/2.3 18 mpix QX10? Is it worth? Or should we wait for the more capable (one inch sensor) QX100?
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From my perspective the QX10 delivers much better quality photos. I would use it for stills not motion though. It has superior low light, nearly noise free, sharp and clear. However, it will be more convenient to carry once the spa-acx2 case is available, since you can reduce its thickness by removing the clamp section.
However, you have no real control over the QX10. It is designed to be used in auto mode. That is not necessarily a bad thing, but if you want proper control you need the QX100, which I will be getting soon. From all the descriptions by Sony, I didnt expect the QX10 to have such good low light photos. So it makes me wonder how much better the QX100 wil be.
I reckon it will be better manual control and slightly better quality optics.
The Z1 camera firmware really needs improving. The danger here is in 3-6 months Sony have addressed this, and the QX10 might only be useful for zoom. Somehow, I still think the QX10 will always take better quality shots though.
So, it DOES take better pictures than the Z1's sensor?
Better quality yes. Z1 camera has more fancy options due to its speed and effects
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As I sold my HTC One to get a better camera phone I hope Sony update the firmware as fast as they can. The HTC One took very good photo's but the 4mp was lacking for detail in my opinion and it was nowhere near as good as my trusty 'old' Lumia 920 camera which I was very impressed by.
Going to wait a few months and see if the camera improves if not will seriously consider the QX10 with the Sony case for attaching it onto which looks seriously cool.
Hello Gavin!
Long time no see!
I am too thinking of swapping from HTC One to Z1 due to purple tint issue in the camera.
Though is it worth it to take the Z1 instead of other phones like S4 and G2 just for the 20mp?
Camera is important for me but the 170g and large bezel of the Z1 are crazy no?
Also what about the screen under sunlight?
Even if not as good as the One,is it usable for texting for example?
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Hello Gavin!
Long time no see!
I am too thinking of swapping from HTC One to Z1 due to purple tint issue in the camera.
Though is it worth it to take the Z1 instead of other phones like S4 and G2 just for the 20mp?
Camera is important for me but the 170g and large bezel of the Z1 are crazy no?
Also what about the screen under sunlight?
Even if not as good as the One,is it usable for texting for example?
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I wouldn't go back to the htc one. The z1 camera needs firmware tweaking. 20mp doesn't equal great shots. I wouldn't get either samsung . the z1 build quality is fantastic. Waterproof etc. No sunshine yet. So can't tell you. Texting etc is fine. Default keyboard can be customised. I think its swiftkey.
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Default keyboard can be customised. I think its swiftkey.
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That is interesting, seeing as I purchased SwiftKey for the S4.
I must find some time to at the very least look at my Z1.
It arrived Wed so that is three days the package has sat waiting to be opened....
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That is interesting, seeing as I purchased SwiftKey for the S4.
I must find some time to at the very least look at my Z1.
It arrived Wed so that is three days the package has sat waiting to be opened....
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3 days
It is well worth even a slight peek.
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3 days
It is well worth even a slight peek.
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Trouble is if I do have a peek it will end up with me picking it up, then reaching for the rest of the box contents.....
The next thing I would find myself putting the phone on charge, and I just know although I would be sat working the temptation to keep looking across at the soft glowing red light waiting for the change to green would be just too tempting.
So no, not even a peek Gavin.
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HI,
So, I'm one of the few who is definitely not happy with his new Xperia Z. Having had my go at the screen, where I understand things might get mixed with personal taste I decided to have a look at the camera.
I took some photos today with it and also with my Galaxy S2. Images on the left are from the Sony.
Full size images:
Samsung: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8p9lsf08oa1l0rq/Samsung.zip?m
Sony: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ep5vco70vgqh5yz/Sony.zip?m
You be the judge
Edit: One interesting thing is image size in MB. Images from the Sony are significantly smaller than the ones from the S2 even though they are 12MP vs 8MP (last image from the Sony sampes is 9MP)
Cheers,
P
Can you upload a video sample too..nobody seems to help me with this..can you help uploading the video sample to dropbox i really want to check the video quality.
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Yes I'm disappoint about the camera too, washed out color, poor details.X(
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shame on sony felt it would be like this.........they produce sensors for most device manufacturers but they keep poor sensors in their devices
will never return to sony in near future
Thanks for the post. I have S2 and have been waiting to buy either this phone HTC one or s4. I can cross xz off my list. Very disappointed at sony
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I thinks the pics here are not correct.
Photoshop editing
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Either you're good at Photoshop or your phone is faulty. My camera is better than the S3 + iPhone 5 even without looking in depth. Same with the screen, as always, anyone who gives any care about "viewing angles" is idiotic. You don't hold your phone sideways.
The XZ in my opinion is everything I expected maybe more. Stop *****ing.
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Either you're good at Photoshop or your phone is faulty. My camera is better than the S3 + iPhone 5 even without looking in depth. Same with the screen, as always, anyone who gives any care about "viewing angles" is idiotic. You don't hold your phone sideways.
The XZ in my opinion is everything I expected maybe more. Stop *****ing.
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Definitely agree. Since the op made this topic, I've done side by side comparisons between the GS2 and Xperia Z and no way in hell is the s2 camera better than the Xperia Z. The s2 over-saturates all the colours. The XZ takes a picture of the object as it is, it doesn't try to bloat it with over-saturated colours or try to richen the picture which I like.
How can 8mp sensor takes a bigger pics than 13mp sensor?
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if the OP had said GS3 camera maybe it would have been worth a look, but a GS2 camera doing better then XZ...well..
Lol at this post. Check the images closely..
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abd_alazeez2002 said:
How can 8mp sensor takes a bigger pics than 13mp sensor?
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ever heard of compression levels
Tyr rsatsi
I had a camera trial with my mates iphone 5, the Sony lost on all but daytime shots, so not happy with my Z Even my old 4s takes better night shots than the Z, and the half second lag before it takes the picture makes it feel like a 5 year old cheap digi camera.
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I had a camera trial with my mates iphone 5, the Sony lost on all but daytime shots, so not happy with my Z Even my old 4s takes better night shots than the Z, and the half second lag before it takes the picture makes it feel like a 5 year old cheap digi camera.
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Thanks man. This seems to be the truth. Sony didn't make the effort with camera or speaker. The speaker made me laugh when I tested it in the 3 store. Really wanted to like this phone but too many negatives to jump in for a two year contract !
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Nothing wrong with the speaker louder than sg3, also the cam is good on this i think people are trolling and chatting bs.
To everyone saying that the Z has a great camera can you please attach some photos (straight from the phone please)?
The samples on dropbox are completely untouched, the other images are just put side by side on Photoshop to get the screenshot.
Sony clearly under performs, specially in color reproduction (wrong wb) and less sharp images. On the second sample you can't even perceive the small cracks on the sticker while they are perfectly visible on the sgs2.
So please, attach some photos. Maybe I have a defective model, who knows. But I've looked around for camera samples and they all look the same.
I do, however, believe this is a software problem. Too much noise reduction and compression. There is no way a JPEG that has more pixels and is, on average, 30% smaller is size has more detail
May be a sony hater, sammy's spy doing some ****ty work here.... i dont think he will be seen here anymore ... he knows he is caught.... heheehhe
I can see that everyone here appears to want to believe the camera is great, but that isn't quite the truth. Check some sites like GSMArena - the camera doesn't fare that well in comparison with good 8mp shooters from last year in fact. It's not bad by any stretch of the imagination, I mean those 8mp weren't either by cellphone standards, but I think it is fair to say that it is a bit disappointing considering the increased mp count and supposed sensor advancements.
The thing that I am curious about is the file size. It seems common sense to me that if 2 pictures are in the same format then the larger file will have more detail. Is it possible that we can make the XZ compress the pictures less (maybe take pictures in a better format) and have a much better result???
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I will post some pictures tonight from my xz and my 4s.
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Hi,
here is another of my photo comparison. This time I have Sony Xperia Z1, LG G2, Samsung Galaxy S4, Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and... Google Glass! Enjoy (even if it's written in italian)!
http://www.androidworld.it/2013/10/...-note-3-189931/comment-page-1/#comment-468801
Cool! Will check it out. Always a pleasure seeing camera shootouts with the Xperia Z1!
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Hi,
here is another of my photo comparison. This time I have Sony Xperia Z1, LG G2, Samsung Galaxy S4, Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and... Google Glass! Enjoy (even if it's written in italian)!
http://www.androidworld.it/2013/10/...-note-3-189931/comment-page-1/#comment-468801
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You wrote that pictures from the z1 are washed out. Actually I think that pics from samsung phones are too saturated. I guess colors from z1 are more natural. Last night I tried to shoot with the z1 and the htc one. Colors from htc one were more cool but not natural at all. The z1 was more balanced.
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You wrote that pictures from the z1 are washed out. Actually I think that pics from samsung phones are too saturated. I guess colors from z1 are more natural. Last night I tried to shoot with the z1 and the htc one. Colors from htc one were more cool but not natural at all. The z1 was more balanced.
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Samsung pics are too saturated for sure
Thanks for sharing.
to me it seems the G2 and note 3 have better camera (or software optimization) than the GS4 and the Z1. Honestly, the Z1 seems a bit overrate. i hope this new update delivers what it says it does (great pictures) and prolly i would buy it. If not, i rather keep my GS4.
Well I don't know what some people are seeing but the Z1 seemed consistently the best for the pictures throughout that test. Colour and detail was lovely. The S4 was good but fell down on a couple of the pictures. I didn't watch the video comparison. I was quite impressed with the Google Glass pics too for a 5mp camera they weren't too shabby
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Well I don't know what some people are seeing but the Z1 seemed consistently the best for the pictures throughout that test. Colour and detail was lovely. The S4 was good but fell down on a couple of the pictures. I didn't watch the video comparison. I was quite impressed with the Google Glass pics too for a 5mp camera they weren't too shabby
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I agree.... i hv used note 3 n s4 both r gud in gud light bt in low light they r horrible....comparatively. z1 is consistent performer n clks btr pics... in almost all senarios....
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I didn't see much details on the bricked walls nor the grass lines in the background of the pictures. Only the HDR version of the Z1 captured some details. The rest of the phones did well without HDR. The video was nicer on the G2 and Z1 then Note 3. The Gs4 was too shaky. Then the G2 volume was low.
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all irrelevant now with the new firmware
AoS_HJ said:
Well I don't know what some people are seeing but the Z1 seemed consistently the best for the pictures throughout that test. Colour and detail was lovely. The S4 was good but fell down on a couple of the pictures. I didn't watch the video comparison. I was quite impressed with the Google Glass pics too for a 5mp camera they weren't too shabby
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Really? And this proves again that it's a matter of taste as well... Thought the Z1 pics in that test were quite sucky. Lots of noise, not too much detail, bland. Dunno which firmware they used for these tests though. Owning a Z1 myself btw, so not hating on it
Fair enough. Like you say a question of personal preference. As has been mentioned it's a new ball game with the new firmware update. Let the comparisons start again
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14.1.G.2.257 perfect image quality!
Desperanto86 said:
14.1.G.2.257 perfect image quality!
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Honestly that's far from perfect... pretty good though
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Honestly that's far from perfect... pretty good though
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You just don't see photos in old firmware this just perfect in compare with okd firmware
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You just don't see photos in old firmware this just perfect in compare with okd firmware
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I've the old firmware
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I've the old firmware
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oh...2 last photo in FULL DARK! there are no noise more!
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oh...2 last photo in FULL DARK! there are no noise more!
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I'll test when I'll get this bloody update
dagrim1 said:
Really? And this proves again that it's a matter of taste as well... Thought the Z1 pics in that test were quite sucky. Lots of noise, not too much detail, bland. Dunno which firmware they used for these tests though. Owning a Z1 myself btw, so not hating on it
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only Nokia is Winner.. all other manufacturers are making us fool and giving us a lollipop....and rather i would say that they have not true capability to make great camera phone for smartphone.....many people continue to cry for camera and many of others would also be in upcoming days .........here are some exampless
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2485992
yeah those pictures after the update arent any good either. I think my Nexus with the Camera Zoom app takes better picture. 20MP this and that is just gimmicks to sell phones. Well, at least is water proof
I had hopes for this FW to fix stuff to jump on it and grab the Z1, but no thanks. And i dont mean to disrespect anyone, is a matter of choice. I have two babies, who I take quick snaps all the time, and it is important to me the phone i have take good pics.
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only Nokia is Winner.. all other manufacturers are making us fool and giving us a lollipop....and rather i would say that they have not true capability to make great camera phone for smartphone.....many people continue to cry for camera and many of others would also be in upcoming days .........here are some exampless
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2485992
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I'm glad you're not exaggerating too much...
Seriously, the Z1 can take some pretty sweet shots and I feel things have improved (again) with the latest FW... They just hyped it way too much (or released the phone too early). I agree about Nokia being a great camera-phone, but that doesn't mean all the rest is crap.
Hell, the S4, Note3, LG2, Z1, One... They can all take pretty sweet pictures, they all have their issues (saturation, noise, etc) but remember that they are phones with a camera and keeping that in mind they perform pretty decent imo. They're not standalone cameras no, but beats having to cary one around all the time.
Anyway, I'm still hoping future updates will improve things even more.
Really happy with this test , showing the excellent low light capabilities of the Xperia Z2,
Here:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NKTYPBuGH4
That's amazing
Hope the camera will impressive as in the show when I use it later
Wow
Just one word, Wow!
Ok wait i'm speachless now! THIS JUST SMASHED THE NOKIA AND I****5S
As a Z1 owner this makes me really happy. Both have the same camera, there's no reason why ours shouldn't be improved to be like the Z2's!
I think there is some NFC trick going around. See that plastic sticker on the box?
^ Are u joking? I doubt that they would be so stupid and cheat there, reviews would find that out really fast.
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^ Are u joking? I doubt that they would be so stupid and cheat there, reviews would find that out really fast.
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Not a fair comparison. I have owned the 5S and 1520. Use a Note 3. The 1520 would still take a better or as good as shot if it was allowed to focus properly and not have the focus light covered
Not saying the Z2 will be poor just adding some balance.
Mmm.. maybe those box is made for the z2 showoff
Maybe after released to the market, there will be a better camera comparison. But I still love the z2 rather than 5s or the nokia or the s5
Something is very suspicious about this test. I don't know what they're doing, but I would not expect that dramatic of a difference with the Z2 camera in reality.
People need to understand how ISO, shutter speed and aperture work before making judgement. Unless you're just gonna use it for selfies in auto-mode... in which case, who gives a crap.
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People need to understand how ISO, shutter speed and aperture work before making judgement. Unless you're just gonna use it for selfies in auto-mode... in which case, who gives a crap.
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EXACTLY! What people don't understand is that the shutter speed and ISO can be manually adjusted on the Lumia to take some very impressive low light shots that would never even be visible on the almighty 5S.
Not a very good comparison, we'll see what happens in real life. But still... suggesting NFC trickery with the sticker on the box sounds a little bit far-fetched...
You guys are so crazy for thinking z2 smashed the other two. It was a cheated test for god sake. The z2 used flash while the others didn't
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I think there is some NFC trick going around. See that plastic sticker on the box?
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Really? you think NFC was used here and it wasn't showed on the screen that NFC was used, how stupid can you be?
and doesn't 1520 support NFC too? and We all clearly saw that the flash is off on all three devices.
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Not a fair comparison. I have owned the 5S and 1520. Use a Note 3. The 1520 would still take a better or as good as shot if it was allowed to focus properly and not have the focus light covered
Not saying the Z2 will be poor just adding some balance.
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Hypocrite, I clearly myself sometimes don't like the photo quality on Z1 cause it can do better than that and it's all with software issue and I compared 1520 with Xperia Z1 and It showed Xperia Z1 is better.
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EXACTLY! What people don't understand is that the shutter speed and ISO can be manually adjusted on the Lumia to take some very impressive low light shots that would never even be visible on the almighty 5S.
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This test was done on fully auto not the manual mode, I know if it was taken on manual mode Xperia Z2 might not do well yet it will have some decent pictures, Remember that SA mode isn't bad all the time. It takes some great shots time to time.
What a shot!
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You guys are so crazy for thinking z2 smashed the other two. It was a cheated test for god sake. The z2 used flash while the others didn't
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well that test is kinda strange for sure but flash clearly wasnt used - you can even see the disabled flash symbol in that video
I've re-watched the video and I now understand how it did better but I will wait for comparisons by tech sites. For me all Sony cameras on xperias have been rubbish so I will wait. I don't expect it to beat One/2 or 1020 pureview in low light but we'll see.
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You guys are so crazy for thinking z2 smashed the other two. It was a cheated test for god sake. The z2 used flash while the others didn't
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Flash was turned off... you can clearly see that on the screen. However ridiculous the test might be - suggesting Sony rigged it with NFC or hidden/modified icon to conceal the use of flash is just as ridiculous...
This test it still useless though. Real photos are what matters and we will know more in the weeks to come.
I am interested in both these phones and am having trouble deciding due to the various camera reviews.
I am specifically interested in how each camera handles moving objects like kids or pets running as this is what I take most pics of.
Please post any samples here. Thanks kindly.
Edit - please don't post any YouTube links. I have watched every video comparing the two. Real world results are much better for everyone here.
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ipmanwck said:
I am interested in both these phones and am having trouble deciding due to the various camera reviews.
I am specifically interested in how each camera handles moving objects like kids or pets running as this is what I take most pics of.
Please post any samples here. Thanks kindly.
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I didn't have the Z2, but I had the Z1 and it was by far the worst camera I had used on any phone. All the pics had a huge amount of noise and tended to look painted. When the Kit Kat update came and there was no improvement I moved on from the Z1. Seeing as the Z1 and Z2 have the same camera I imagine it's the same situation with the Z2.
The G3 camera is at the opposite end of the spectrum and delivers the best still shots I have seen on a phone, certainly comparable to a dedicated camera. Absolutely no regrets moving on from the Z1 or M8 to this phone.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-G3-vs-Sony-Xperia-Z2_id3727/page/3
z2 camera
I have to say I have a z2 and it is by far the BEST camera I have ever used in a smart phone. -MOD EDIT- and no swearing please.It has been rated the best camera on the market over the I phone. And where the person said the pictures looked painted it's because the pictures are really that clear. They are so crystal clear that they don't look real. I had an s4 which was a 13 mp camera which was very good but this z2 in auto mode which is only 8mp and it takes beautiful pictures. And yes the comparison where it won was compared in 8mp mode so the playing field was even. You can shoot in 15.5 and 20.7 mp modes and it shoots amazing motion pictures. I take lots of pictures of my dogs playing and running and jumping and there is no noise and blows away the htc one m8 and the galaxy s5.I don't think the g3 could possibly take better pictures. I haven't used one because it's not available but trust me sony makes absolutely amazing phone cameras. They probably made the ones on the g3 and s5.but the z2s is a higher megapixel. And it's on a Sony product.
I hope the Z2 is way better than Z1, because Z1 is just an ok cam.
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The person who said it is the worst camera ever is an idiot. They are so crystal clear that they don't look real.
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Actually I said the Z1 was the worst phone camera I had used as it had a lot of artifacting and noise. I can imagine there might have been some improvement with the Z2. Heck I was taking better pictures with the M8 than with my Z1.
This is not my opinion alone, take a look at some of the earlier posts in the Z1 picture thread.
In any event the G3 has a really good camera that I enjoy. YMMV.
I'm in the same boat. I'm choosing between the G3 and Z2, and camera is the most important thing for me since I take a lot of pics of my 3 kids, so particularly picture of moving object.
I did a lot of reading on G3 vs. Z2 and their camera. This one seems to have the most details:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...one-5s-LG-G2-Sony-Xperia-Z2-HTC-One-M8_id3728
In this review G3 did very well, best in 2 of the 3 main categories (detail and indoor), and best in 3 of the 4 minor categories (Panorama, HDR, and night). However it didn't talk much about picture of moving objects. I'd appreciate input on specifically this.
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I have to say I have a z2 and it is by far the BEST camera I have ever used in a smart phone. -MOD EDIT- and no swearing please.It has been rated the best camera on the market over the I phone. And where the person said the pictures looked painted it's because the pictures are really that clear. They are so crystal clear that they don't look real. I had an s4 which was a 13 mp camera which was very good but this z2 in auto mode which is only 8mp and it takes beautiful pictures. And yes the comparison where it won was compared in 8mp mode so the playing field was even. You can shoot in 15.5 and 20.7 mp modes and it shoots amazing motion pictures. I take lots of pictures of my dogs playing and running and jumping and there is no noise and blows away the htc one m8 and the galaxy s5.I don't think the g3 could possibly take better pictures. I haven't used one because it's not available but trust me sony makes absolutely amazing phone cameras. They probably made the ones on the g3 and s5.but the z2s is a higher megapixel. And it's on a Sony product.
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This is the kind of feedback we are after in here. Thanks so much for the info. Could you please post some pics here of your moving pets in 8mp superior mode that would be really helpful. Thanks again.
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Any smartphone is going to struggle when taking shots of moving objects. That's simply due to the size of the sensor and how fast the lens operates.
A good test is to get someone to stand still in front of the lens and take a shot whilst they are waving back at you.
A decent digital camera with a good fast lens will keep both the person and their waving hand clear and sharp.
A blur free shot will require a fast shutter, something a smartphone struggles to achieve in anything other than bright and clear lighting.
Beards said:
Any smartphone is going to struggle when taking shots of moving objects. That's simply due to the size of the sensor and how fast the lens operates.
A good test is to get someone to stand still in front of the lens and take a shot whilst they are waving back at you.
A decent digital camera with a good fast lens will keep both the person and their waving hand clear and sharp.
A blur free shot will require a fast shutter, something a smartphone struggles to achieve in anything other than bright and clear lighting.
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Thanks for the info but as the title states I just want real world comparisons. Some mobiles capture .motion much better than others and due to the bigger sensor was hoping z2 would do well but jury is still out until further pics are posted.
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ipmanwck said:
Thanks for the info but as the title states I just want real world comparisons. Some mobiles capture .motion much better than others and due to the bigger sensor was hoping z2 would do well but jury is still out until further pics are posted.
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No problem.
To part answer your request, the Sony Z2 has a slightly larger sensor at 1/2.3" over the LG G3 1/3".
So, based on sensor size alone the Z2 wins this.
However, sensor size alone won't guarantee a better shot and this is where LG needs to up its stakes.
Will it do it..... Well I currently have a Z2 which is miles better than the Z1 I previously had.
Unfortunately, even with it's larger sensor it fails to capture a steady and clear blur free shot. A moving hand is just a blur.
Sorry I do not have any shots at hand to show this. For shots of say my grandchildren running around as if they are all driving formula one cars I always go straight to one of my fast digital cameras. Not even a dedicated small compact digital camera will take a blur free shot.
I'll be getting a UK LG G3 in the next couple of weeks and it will be a great phone.
I'll use it for many tasks including photos but I won't expect it to capture any blur free shots.
But to sum up your question...... Of the two my money would go to the G3. It may not be able to achieve what you are asking but what with OIS hardware and that Laser focus they will help photos to be much clearer where lighting is not ideal.
for me, with moving objects most of the times i don't go the picture route. i go to camera, scroll down that button on upper right to switch to video mode.
The only phone that can take less blurry pics is m7 and m8, that was the point. Shutter speed is a bit higher. I have tried all the ones in my signature at the same target, my kids ☺
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The only phone that can take less blurry pics is m7 and m8, that was the point. Shutter speed is a bit higher. I have tried all the ones in my signature at the same target, my kids ☺
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I had 3 x M7s all had the purple tint issue due to poor heat shielding and the camera was rubbish. HTC thought it would be a good idea to use the same camera in the m8 !! It still blurred in indoor motion shots and really the camera is not good from experience. Thanks for the opinion though but lets stick to the mentioned handsets.
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ipmanwck said:
I had 3 x M7s all had the purple tint issue due to poor heat shielding and the camera was rubbish. HTC thought it would be a good idea to use the same camera in the m8 !! It still blurred in indoor motion shots and really the camera is not good from experience. Thanks for the opinion though but lets stick to the mentioned handsets.
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You're holding it wrong [emoji1]. The word a bit doesn't make it a dslr. Out of my sig those is the best for motion blur, nothing else.
You went back to the HOX?
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You're holding it wrong [emoji1]. The word a bit doesn't make it a dslr. Out of my sig those is the best for motion blur, nothing else.
You went back to the HOX?
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This is a temporary phone. Got it off eBay for 100. One x +. Had the s4 for a while after the m7 fiasco ! Not getting into the HTC camera issues here as this is not the forum for it but if your happy with your HTC phone camera then that's good but why are you here then ? If you have a z2 please post pics.
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I'm sorry but the Xperia Z2 appears to be far superior to the G3 in everything but focus time or when the LED is used.
Since 4.4.2 and the latest camera app, the Sony is finally taking the photos it was always meant to. Even auto mode is now good, which is saying something.
But there's obviously more to the G3 than just the camera.
I have never used a z2 but z1 compact was absolutely awful. Even with the lack of mega pixels i am very impressed with the g3 camera i am going to do a lumia 1020 vs g3 thread tomorrow. I think you will be suprised how good the g3 camera is.
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I have to say I have a z2 and it is by far the BEST camera I have ever used in a smart phone. -MOD EDIT- and no swearing please.It has been rated the best camera on the market over the I phone. And where the person said the pictures looked painted it's because the pictures are really that clear. They are so crystal clear that they don't look real. I had an s4 which was a 13 mp camera which was very good but this z2 in auto mode which is only 8mp and it takes beautiful pictures. And yes the comparison where it won was compared in 8mp mode so the playing field was even. You can shoot in 15.5 and 20.7 mp modes and it shoots amazing motion pictures. I take lots of pictures of my dogs playing and running and jumping and there is no noise and blows away the htc one m8 and the galaxy s5.I don't think the g3 could possibly take better pictures. I haven't used one because it's not available but trust me sony makes absolutely amazing phone cameras. They probably made the ones on the g3 and s5.but the z2s is a higher megapixel. And it's on a Sony product.
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does it still overheat? i had the z2 and that was the only thing that i didnt like about it
lg g3 is better
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Why is this Z5 compact such a joke? It almost has the same specs as the z3 compact and the new camera aint all that good. The new sensor might be good but what if you cant make the software work? Its like putting a retard in a F1 car. Look at these photosamples http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ on the right you find a note 5, which has a sony sensor at 16MP and on the left you find the Z5 premium with a 21MP sensor but it cant shoot any good pictures in the dark..... So again sony ****ed it up.
Name a single <5" non-iOS phone that can compete on specifications.
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Name a single <5" non-iOS phone that can compete on specifications.
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I don't think he's specifically talking about the specs of the phone, just that the camera still sucks.
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But I can't think of any <5" phone that can compete camera-wise (except the iPhone 6S)?
And I think we should wait for more photo samples to appear before we take final judgement. Most of these early photo samples are using non-final software.
Here's a review that says the camera is the best in class:
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ria-z5-compact-review-best-smaller-smartphone
Hate to point out the obvious but every new phone that comes is an incremental improvement over its predecessor. Look at the iPhone, people(fools) queue for hours to be first to get the new model with 10% faster cpu, 10% bigger screen, 10% more pixels on the cmos sensor, and 20% less battery power. How i chuckle when i see iphone 6 owners, like junkies desperately looking for their next power fix! But, i digress.
A jack of all trades is a master of none. It is after all, a phone. It is not meant to be a world class, low light camera. My first camera phone was 0.3megapix. I thought it was pretty damn cool to have a camera at all. People just take it for granted nowadays. You want good low light photos, buy a camera. You know, them things you cant make phone calls on!
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Why is this Z5 compact such a joke? It almost has the same specs as the z3 compact and the new camera aint all that good. The new sensor might be good but what if you cant make the software work? Its like putting a retard in a F1 car. Look at these photosamples http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ on the right you find a note 5, which has a sony sensor at 16MP and on the left you find the Z5 premium with a 21MP sensor but it cant shoot any good pictures in the dark..... So again sony ****ed it up.
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The camera is a lot better than the Z3.
This thread is like giving a retard a keyboard and allowing them to post on forums.
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The camera is a lot better than the Z3.
This thread is like giving a retard a keyboard and allowing them to post on forums.
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Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.
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Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.
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Ok bro....
You own a Z5C despite proclaiming it to be 'a joke' before it even went on sale? Huh... interesting.
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Ok bro....
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Brothers love, eey?
RiTCHiE007 said:
Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.
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I to had Z3C, were active in XDA section for it, and for one i KNOW Z5C has a better camera to start with. Only thing it doesn't have is battery life on KK with Z3C which owned every cell phone with flagship specs.
On Z3C my focus struggled at times, colors were oversaturated and in many occasions picture looked washed out. That is not the case on Z5C BUT there is a lot room for improvement and i think Sony will do it in time. Great potential with the IMX230 hardware.
wouldn't it be a good idea to make a static topic for flaming about a certain device, so we can focus on the good things instead of getting distracted by this kind of topics?
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wouldn't it be a good idea to make a static topic for flaming about a certain device, so we can focus on the good things instead of getting distracted by this kind of topics?
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its not flaming its the truth but some just cant handle it.
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I to had Z3C, were active in XDA section for it, and for one i KNOW Z5C has a better camera to start with. Only thing it doesn't have is battery life on KK with Z3C which owned every cell phone with flagship specs.
On Z3C my focus struggled at times, colors were oversaturated and in many occasions picture looked washed out. That is not the case on Z5C BUT there is a lot room for improvement and i think Sony will do it in time. Great potential with the IMX230 hardware.
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Yes the camera on the z3c was worse then on the z5c but when you look at the pictures taken with a z5c you will see blurry edges and its almost impossible to make awesome macro shots. So even tho this camera is a bit better it still cant mess with other high ends like note 5 or LG g4 that also uses a sony sensor so thats why i think this z5c is kinda a joke. But if sony doesn't fix all these problems like laggy OS then this will be my last sony phone.
If you really think the performance is as bad as you say you should properly try another vendor! In my experience, they are at least as bad and some a lot worse..
Honestly, I would prefer a smaller Nexus, and might even go for the 5X despite the size.. Nexus device are best in performance (os lag eg), the rest are catching up lately!
You do know that the standard resolution in the app is set to 8M, right?.. I did read its better at that res, but you should maybe try and change it, it goes up to 23 you know..
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You own a Z5C despite proclaiming it to be 'a joke' before it even went on sale? Huh... interesting.
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Yup, because before it was out i judged on sample photo's and now that i own 1 i can confirm it that everything is knew before buying 1 was true. Even in clear daylight most photo's always seem to have a bit of blur on the right side. And batterylife is a bit wonky.
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Yup, because before it was out i judged on sample photo's and now that i own 1 i can confirm it that everything is knew before buying 1 was true. Even in clear daylight most photo's always seem to have a bit of blur on the right side. And batterylife is a bit wonky.
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Sorry to hear that. I had the same problem (except on the left edge instead), returned for a replacement and the second one is much better. It only blurs out the very far corners and only rarely, most pictures are fine. Have you still time for an exchange?
My battery life experience is pretty decent.
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Sorry to hear that. I had the same problem (except on the left edge instead), returned for a replacement and the second one is much better. It only blurs out the very far corners and only rarely, most pictures are fine. Have you still time for an exchange?
My battery life experience is pretty decent.
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No but i can always send it back to the repair center because they sold me a faulty unit but i need to make more photo's to give it a final judgement tho. Which color phone you got and what rev number is on the box if i may ask?
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No but i can always send it back to the repair center because they sold me a faulty unit but i need to make more photo's to give it a final judgement tho. Which color phone you got and what rev number is on the box if i may ask?
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Yellow. 1298-3810 Rev 1. My first one which had the blur was also the exact same though so I'm not sure whether that number means all that much.
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Yellow. 1298-3810 Rev 1. My first one which had the blur was also the exact same though so I'm not sure whether that number means all that much.
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Yea guess the color has nothing to do with is then because lots of white one's have the most problems it seems.