[Q] can the vzw tracking get a Person out of a contract? - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm frustrated to say the least with vzw
Oh, if this the Wrong place for this sorry.
The lack of updates to the note 3 and the looking down on the note 3 that prevents me from taking it elsewhere without hassles.
I pay $150/mo for "America's best network" that drops to 3g if I go into any buildings in Las Vegas on the strip.
So is this tracking bull enough to cancel a contract early? Honestly I want to just go to. T-Mobile for their cheaper plans with no contract and just be done with this crazy bill and crap service.
My contract ends in August. I'm. Perpetually under employed and the contract I'm on for share everything started when I had my old. Job paying my bill every month.
Any ideas?

Just go ahead and switch to T-Mobile. They will pay your etf.
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Nightmare_24_7 said:
Just go ahead and switch to T-Mobile. They will pay your etf.
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If I trade my note 3, for a whopping $175 yes indeed, they'll pay the etf.
At this point without wonderful credit, T-Mobile wants me to pay half of any device up front so the $175 goes towards a T-Mobile device, of which the top end require me to have $300 up front.
So yes. They will pay the $150 etf and $175 device credit but that is a total of $325 and I'd like to imagine my note 3 as worth more on eBay.
Maybe just wait till the note 4. I like the oneplus but like the s-pen more.

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Cancelling Verizon without etf

I really want to buy a nexus 4 and use T-Mobile prepaid service however i am currently locked into a contract until dec2013. My current options is to pay a $200 etf and sell my current galaxy nexus, however i would prefer to press my luck trying to not pay an etf. Has anyone had any luck doing so lately? I know about 10 years ago i cancelled att because i moved and didn't have any coverage at my new house and my cell phone is my primary phone. Just wanted to get some opinions, thanks!
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I don't think you can get out of a etf should you decide to cancel your service. Its just a matter of whether you don't mind owing Verizon and just go ahead and get T-Mobile.
Pretty sure the only ways to not pay an etf on most carriers are:
- moving to an area of no coverage
- death (seriously)
- military deployment
& I am not sure of the others. & all of those, you need to provide paperwork/proof.
Good luck. I am currently wishing I could get out of my T-Mobile contract.
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OP,
do you have unlimited LTE? If so, PM me.
Thanks,
Yeah actually you might find a boat load of people wanting an unlimited plan if you have it
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Another option would be to use an "excessive" amount of data in a roaming area. This appears to have worked for a Sprint user.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2135690
bradm23 said:
I really want to buy a nexus 4 and use T-Mobile prepaid service however i am currently locked into a contract until dec2013. My current options is to pay a $200 etf and sell my current galaxy nexus, however i would prefer to press my luck trying to not pay an etf. Has anyone had any luck doing so lately? I know about 10 years ago i cancelled att because i moved and didn't have any coverage at my new house and my cell phone is my primary phone. Just wanted to get some opinions, thanks!
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I did the same thing last month. they hit me with the etf but the way i look at it was that i was spending over $100 a month on my GNex with verizon, so etf was equal to two months of service with verizon. So i just swallowed it and paid the amount. you'll break even in about 3 months instead of waiting for Dec. VZW has you by your b***s.....
The monthly savings will compensate for your etf in 3 months but if you have an Unlimited data contract you can do a transfer of liability on that line. I just did this and sold my Unlimited line for $125( on HowardForums.com) and then there is no ETF, but you will lose your phone number. Is your phone number worth $325(selling of line + etf), to me it was.
bradm23 said:
I really want to buy a nexus 4 and use T-Mobile prepaid service however i am currently locked into a contract until dec2013. My current options is to pay a $200 etf and sell my current galaxy nexus, however i would prefer to press my luck trying to not pay an etf. Has anyone had any luck doing so lately? I know about 10 years ago i cancelled att because i moved and didn't have any coverage at my new house and my cell phone is my primary phone. Just wanted to get some opinions, thanks!
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Verizon's ETF is $350 minus $10 for every month you've paid into your contract and they will not let you out of it. If you do port the number early do it at the end of your billing period as Verizon will continue to bill you through the end of the cycle. I had to call them and get them to refund me 3 weeks that I didn't have service with them that they still automatically billed me for. They claimed they don't know when the port actually goes through so they continue to bill you just in case you change your mind.
join solavei! only $49 unlimited a month no contract and from the money you'll be saving monthly you'll break even in a month or two
There isn't a loophole to get out of an etf right now.
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The monthly savings will compensate for your etf in 3 months but if you have an Unlimited data contract you can do a transfer of liability on that line. I just did this and sold my Unlimited line for $125( on HowardForums.com) and then there is no ETF, but you will lose your phone number. Is your phone number worth $325(selling of line + etf), to me it was.
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Don't have to lose your number, you could have ported the number over to google voice (or any other carrier) and just told verizon to provision you a new number on that line.
If you transfer responsibility of your line to someone else you don't pay an ETF.
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I currently have a unlimited plan, it still runs through 11/29/14 but I want out.
If somebody wants to take it over go for it, I will keep my phone so I can put it on my wifes plan.
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Yeah actually you might find a boat load of people wanting an unlimited plan if you have it
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vondutchga said:
I currently have a unlimited plan, it still runs through 11/29/14 but I want out.
If somebody wants to take it over go for it, I will keep my phone so I can put it on my wifes plan.
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You might be better off posting this in the Sprint section or maybe even the Verizon section. I do not know why a Nexus owner would ever want to go to the Verizon if you know what I mean.
I got out ETF free from Verizon a couple of months ago because I got bad service by my house and I am loving that I can now purchase a Nexus from the play store and use it on a pre-paid plan with no contracts or ETF's.
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vondutchga said:
I currently have a unlimited plan, it still runs through 11/29/14 but I want out.
If somebody wants to take it over go for it, I will keep my phone so I can put it on my wifes plan.
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Just wait until it ended and buy the Nexus 5 which will be released about the sametime.
eksasol said:
EDIT: This thread is so old. Why did you bring it back to life?
Just wait until it ended and buy the Nexus 5 which will be released about the sametime.
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He said 11/29/14. We will have the Nexus 6 around that time!
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He said 11/29/14. We will have the Nexus 6 around that time!
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Or the Nexus 4 (2014 edition)
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eksasol said:
EDIT: This thread is so old. Why did you bring it back to life?
Just wait until it ended and buy the Nexus 5 which will be released about the sametime.
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He brought it back to life because it was relevant to his situation. Why start a new thread when there is already one available?
You can get someone to take over your contract. What worked for me was I paid someone $100 to take over my contract with Rogers and i still kept my SGS3(which I sold to buy a N4) which was better than paying $500 to cancel
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I currently have a unlimited plan, it still runs through 11/29/14 but I want out.
If somebody wants to take it over go for it, I will keep my phone so I can put it on my wifes plan.
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The easiest way to get out of the contract is to make the carrier cancel it for you. "How do you make the carrier cancel the contract?" you ask...simple...roam.
Even though you probably have unlimited roaming on your plan, the carrier has a threshold that they really don't want you to cross because it costs them money when you use another carrier's towers. If you keep crossing that threshold the carrier will basically kick you off their network, effectively cancelling your contract.
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[Q] Do I really have to pay $700 for this phone?

I'm checking Tmobile's website and not believing the cost, so I called them. Here is what is offered:
1. $708 upfront + $10 SIM card fee = $718 = unacceptable
2. 24 months $29.50 monthly payment = $714 + $10 SIM card fee = unacceptable
3. $199 upfront + 24 months x $21 monthly payment + $10 SIM card fee = $713 = UNACCEPTABLE
Seriously, if I'm signing a 2 year contract, there has got to be a better deal than this. What are you guys doing to get the phone at a better price?
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EDIT: No more 2 year contracts.
That's pretty much what happens when you go with any other carrier. Tmobile is just up front with how they are charging you.
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I'm on AT&T: $300 for a 2 year contract.
AFAIK, you don't pay "extra" for the duration of the contract and then have the bill reduced when the phone is "paid off", you just get locked into AT&T's service for 2 years, at the normal rate that any AT&T customer would pay.
You gotta pay to play.
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I'm on AT&T: $300 for a 2 year contract.
AFAIK, you don't pay "extra" for the duration of the contract and then have the bill reduced when the phone is "paid off", you just get locked into AT&T's service for 2 years, at the normal rate that any AT&T customer would pay.
You gotta pay to play.
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Lol I am looking at $725 + 8.25% tax which brings that to $784.8. I am just going to wait for craigslist. If not I am going to get myself a Z1.
LoL..There is no better deal. Thats how celpones work. You either pay up front or you pay for it in increased monthly service charges.
No high end phone costs 300$ . Look at all the corners google has to cut to get there Nexus devices to that range. ATT/SPRINT/VZ all take into account the cost of the phone hence early termination fees.
You can try CL which is what I used to do..but IMEI blocking and scamming is rampant and disgusting and you may end up with a $500 wifi only device.
Have to agree don't do craigslist, way too risky.
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Warrior1975 said:
Have to agree don't do craigslist, way too risky.
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Ive done plenty of CL. Just meet them at the the carrier store. Activate it right there and see if it works. I havent had a problem yet.
Buying it from eBay.....I originally planned to buy it in Decemnber,but I think this will be more soon,as the USD is getting very low/weak
Lucas155 said:
I'm checking Tmobile's website and not believing the cost, so I called them. Here is what is offered:
1. $708 upfront + $10 SIM card fee = $718 = unacceptable
2. 24 months $29.50 monthly payment = $714 + $10 SIM card fee = unacceptable
3. $199 upfront + 24 months x $21 monthly payment + $10 SIM card fee = $713 = UNACCEPTABLE
Seriously, if I'm signing a 2 year contract, there has got to be a better deal than this. What are you guys doing to get the phone at a better price?
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You could try Costco,
They usually give you a bag of goodies which in the past has come up to about $100 dollars in case, car charger, cleaner and microfiber etc... Most importantly you get 90 days to return the phone. It must turn on before returning it to them.
Sounds like you need to get a 2-3yr old smart phone, clearly the Note 3 is to expensive for you.
That's actually really cheap compared to the plans down here in Australia. I just got my Note 3 today and it will cost me about AU$1300 over 2 years.
The note 3 is going to cost me around 931 usd in South Korea. The Korean version come with a load of accessories that American versions dont have, which must justify the highier cost. I already have a contract with olleh and just need to transfer sims. But for some reason most places will not sell a phone without a contact that I aready have. They do do the payment plans that add on to the service bill. I am having problems find a place that will just sell me the note.
xManMythLegend said:
LoL..There is no better deal. Thats how celpones work. You either pay up front or you pay for it in increased monthly service charges.
No high end phone costs 300$ .
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No, that's all you pay on At&t (or I think Verizon or Sprint)- there are no extra monthly payments that pay off the retail cost of the phone. You are just committed to another 2 years with them which you would've done anyways. Moreover, if you get it from Best Buy they'll price match anyone on the internet for 30 days.
That's what I did when I got my Note 2. Amazon mobile posted a price a couple days before my price match period was going to expire and I got a refund no questions asked. I paid $175 instead of $300. Walmart also offered that price.
That's why my advice would be to wait a while to see what happens. When a great deal comes along, someone will probably post it here anyway - that's how I found out last year.
Unfortunately I don't think any of that applies to the T-mobile version, or any non US users. Sorry.
On the other hand, the Att and Verizon Note 3 will be coming with the bootloader locked, so I'm going to wait anyway, since it would be useless to me that way.
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What the bloody hell are you complaining about? I wish I could get it that cheap, and with me 80% of the world!
On a Dutch T-Mobile contract it's
2years 2GB + 90minutes = €44.00p/m + €269 phone = €1325. $1,802USD
2years 5GB (max) + Unlimited = €69,00p/m + €89,00 phone = €1745. Only a meagre $2,373USD
2years 250MB + 90minutes = €29,00 + €389,95 Phone = €1086. $1,476USD
In the shops it's €750 prepaid. THE PHONE COSTS $1,020USD HERE.
Truly, stop feeling so sorry for yourself.
ShadowLea said:
What the bloody hell are you complaining about? I wish I could get it that cheap, and with me 80% of the world!
On a Dutch T-Mobile contract it's ...
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If you include the cost of the contract, obviously we'll pay way more than what the OP or I were quoting. A better comparison is the cost of buying it from an online retailer in your home country without contract since we all have different data plans.
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By the way, you could try ebay (US site). I just checked and they'll sell for less than $1000. I saw several selling with a buy it now price of between $750 to $785.
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Dumbo53 said:
If you include the cost of the contract, obviously we'll pay way more than what the OP or I were quoting. A better comparison is the cost of buying it from an online retailer in your home country without contract since we all have different data plans.
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That would be the latter. €750/$1,020.
God some of you guys have huge contracts thank god the UK ain't so bad
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Sorry I added to my post since it looked like no one responded. Anyway I suggested the ebay US site as a possible alternative for you?
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Smartphones have been like this for a long time, in upwards of $600 unless you get a 2 yr contact, the more high end they are the more they gonna cost. I'll never dump $700 because I need two phone every two years so, instead of dumping $1,400 I'm renewing my 2 year contract with at&t and getting a note 3 for me and an iPhone 5s for the wife for under $700.
The reality is you want a fresh new device you'll have to dump that much money out get locked in a 2 contract. Well unless you want to pay a monthly payment on your phone on top of your bill.
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No, that's all you pay on At&t (or I think Verizon or Sprint)- there are no extra monthly payments that pay off the retail cost of the phone. You are just committed to another 2 years with them which you would've done anyways. Moreover, if you get it from Best Buy they'll price match anyone on the internet for 30 days.
That's what I did when I got my Note 2. Amazon mobile posted a price a couple days before my price match period was going to expire and I got a refund no questions asked. I paid $175 instead of $300. Walmart also offered that price.
That's why my advice would be to wait a while to see what happens. When a great deal comes along, someone will probably post it here anyway - that's how I found out last year.
Unfortunately I don't think any of that applies to the T-mobile version, or any non US users. Sorry.
On the other hand, the Att and Verizon Note 3 will be coming with the bootloader locked, so I'm going to wait anyway, since it would be useless to me that way.
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I think you are misunderstanding.
The price of your monthly plan is padded to cover the cost of any phone you may have. TMO is the first company to give you the transparency and be forward enough to say you're paying extra for your phone and we will drop the price once its paid off. Take a look at their pricing before they changed to their no contract , and compare other carriers. Other carriers are pricier per month because they know you dont want to pay full price on your phoneup front so they give it to you for $199 and the additional hundreds it costs you end up paying for in monthly service costs over the 2 years you are locked in. Its not a coincidence as phones got more expensive so did the early termination fees.
Again this is in the U.S I make no claims about overseas.

Trading in for Edge up

I am going to be upgrading to the Note 4 via VZW Edge. I'm rooted and Rom'd and was wondering if you guys would think I'd need to go back to stock before giving my device in. I'm not doing warranty or anything like that so I don't see a reason they'd possibly be upset with anything? Anyway, thought I'd ask the folks.
BasPilot said:
I am going to be upgrading to the Note 4 via VZW Edge. I'm rooted and Rom'd and was wondering if you guys would think I'd need to go back to stock before giving my device in. I'm not doing warranty or anything like that so I don't see a reason they'd possibly be upset with anything? Anyway, thought I'd ask the folks.
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I'd say it depends on the service rep. Some may check your phone and give you a hard time, others won't even check which was my experience. If you're nervous about it, remove Safestrap and Odin back to stock.
I am thinking I might just do it anyway to make sure I have a good wipe.
The Verizon Edge plans are a rip-off. Your better off going the regular contract upgrade route and selling the phone off when you want a new one.
Do the math...
I see Verizon Note3 Is going for 4-5 hundred on swappa.
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MichaelMcC said:
I see Verizon Note3 Is going for 4-5 hundred on swappa.
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hah, yeah right. You're more likely to get $300-350 for it. Just because people are asking $400-500 for theirs doesn't mean it's going to sell.
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The Verizon Edge plans are a rip-off. Your better off going the regular contract upgrade route and selling the phone off when you want a new one.
Do the math...
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Really depends on what plan your on. If you are on a legacy plan (like me with unlimited data) it is a terrible deal. If you are on the more everything with 10gb of data so you get the $25 discount, it is a great deal.
With the the discount the phone would cost about $5 more a month with no upfront cost. Over 24 months that would be $120. The traditional upgrade would cost you $299.99 plus the upgrade fee.
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Mr. Toad said:
Really depends on what plan your on. If you are on a legacy plan (like me with unlimited data) it is a terrible deal. If you are on the more everything with 10gb of data so you get the $25 discount, it is a great deal.
With the the discount the phone would cost about $5 more a month with no upfront cost. Over 24 months that would be $120. The traditional upgrade would cost you $299.99 plus the upgrade fee.
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Yeah. The discounts essentially negate the cost of having a top of the line phone, which WAS upgraded once a year, now 18 months on the new Edge.... but still..... for people who like to keep in a top end device it's still a good deal.
vmod32 said:
The Verizon Edge plans are a rip-off. Your better off going the regular contract upgrade route and selling the phone off when you want a new one.
Do the math...
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Lets see.. If I want a single line for the SG5 retailed at $599.99, Individual plan starting at $60/mo unlimited talk+text 1GB
Two Year Contract:
Price for the phone - $199.99
Taxes: $47.92 (599.99 x .08)
Upgrade fee - $30
Total Today: $276.92
Per month: $60
If I multiply this by 24 months (and adding what I need to pay today)...60x24+276.92 = $1,716.92
Edge:
Price for the phone - $0
Price for edge - $25
Taxes: $47.92
Upgrade fee - $0
Total Today: $47.92
Per month: $60 (minus 15) = $45 + $25 = $70/mo
If I multiply this by 24 months (and adding what I need to pay today)... 70x24+47.92= $1,727.92
Doing the edge is roughly $10 more big deal. For some people, they don't want to dish out $200 on a contract and rather paying it slowly, thus edge. As for selling your device to get some extra cash, once you're done with edge you OWN the device. Early edge on the other hand requires you do return the device to cancel your contract and converting it to month to month.
To the OP: I think you should wipe and switch back to stock, you never know what may happen and they could deny your phone which then maybe cause you to pay for the phone you turn in as well.
Verizon reps do not pay attention. Once the phone is in their possession there is nothing Verizon can do in regards to "charging you for a rooted phone". All Verizon will do anyway is reflash, clean it up and resell as a refurbished phone.
chriskader said:
Verizon reps do not pay attention. Once the phone is in their possession there is nothing Verizon can do in regards to "charging you for a rooted phone". All Verizon will do anyway is reflash, clean it up and resell as a refurbished phone.
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Yes in fact they can. If they find the software overly modded its 300 bucks. too much wear or a cracked screen 300 bucks. And the charge will just show up on your account. Also the reps do not get the phone the refurb center does and they do check them out.
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Yes in fact they can. If they find the software overly modded its 300 bucks. too much wear or a cracked screen 300 bucks. And the charge will just show up on your account. Also the reps do not get the phone the refurb center does and they do check them out.
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Yup. Don't risk trading the device in modded. Wipe it clean back to stock.
vmod32 said:
The Verizon Edge plans are a rip-off. Your better off going the regular contract upgrade route and selling the phone off when you want a new one.
Do the math...
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Not if you have unlimited data and still want a new device. I got the note 3 and will pay $320 after one year; I'll trade it in and get something new. I don't get to keep the device, but I never kept mine anyway, so I don't recoup my initial cost. If you have the means and unlimited data, it's a good deal/way to get a new device.
But if you keep the device for 2 years in EDGE, you're not using the program correctly. All the Verizon reps I've spoken with have said as much.

[Q] Expected Price Drop?

I really want to get the Note 4 but the price is too high for me at the moment, the current price is $299.99 pretty much everywhere. Best Buy has been dropping it to $249.99 but I still find it a bit high. I'm with AT&T and they usually are slow with deals. How long do you think the wait will be for a set price of $249.99? Not that I want to pay that, but I'd expect some store to go to $199.99 for at least a few days. It's not that I don't have the money to pay for the phone, it's just that I don't want to pay that much for it.
I'll be keeping my phone for 2 years, so I want to buy it at a reasonable price for me not to feel bad of when I purchased it... I bought the Galaxy S3 two years ago and about a month later the S4 was announced and the S3 price was dropped and I could have gotten the S4.
Any input?
299.99$ and you're still complaining? It's two and a half times cheaper than in Europe!!!
$299.99 for a 2 year contract, I think you're talking about the phone unlocked.
That's right. But in your OP there's no single word about contract.
youre going to spend $1400 over the life of the contract for the phone and youre cribbing about $50 ? really ?
Just buy it for $900 like the rest of us and save yourself $500.
zurkx said:
youre going to spend $1400 over the life of the contract for the phone and youre cribbing about $50 ? really ?
Just buy it for $900 like the rest of us and save yourself $500.
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What?
bat0nas said:
That's right. But in your OP there's no single word about contract.
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Then again, there is no way I'd find an unlocked phone for $299.99...
Not a hard one, but you're out of country so you might of not known about the options.
you do understamd they charge a huge markup on the contract phone price, right ?
Your $200 note is actually $1400 or more on a 2 year contract or $900 unlocked today.
lol
I bought one 2 days ago on kijiji for 460$ Canadian use for 1 day, reason i got it so low is i managed to convince the guy that root voids the warranty and so i got it at that price with no contract
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Not a hard one, but you're out of country so you might of not known about the options.
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You are out of country. Not me
zurkx said:
you do understamd they charge a huge markup on the contract phone price, right ?
Your $200 note is actually $1400 or more on a 2 year contract or $900 unlocked today.
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What are you talking about.
I pay the $299.99 and taxes and that's it. Not hard to figure out. When I got my S3 I only spent the $199.99 plus tax and that was it. I didn't spend more on it...
what about the extra you pay every month during the 2 year contract ?
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What are you talking about.
I pay the $299.99 and taxes and that's it. Not hard to figure out. When I got my S3 I only spent the $199.99 plus tax and that was it. I didn't spend more on it...
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He's talking about the price of your contracted plan per month compared to what other providers might have. Let's assume you are paying $80 for your service....while same service can be had for $50 elsewhere... you are paying $30 more a month x 24 = $720 + the $300 you spend initially + tax.
It's theoretical... no one knows what you're paying monthly on contract.
I was paying $250 for 6 lines on AT&T... that was my contract price... I could upgrade all 6 lines on contract and get phones etc.
I switched to T-mobile and pay $120 a month. The savings was substantial and not every line need a smartphone or an upgrade. I can get new phones on installment and pay $0 down. and still cost would be less than AT&T.
It's different for everyone. You might have a cheap grandfathered plan..who knows.
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He's talking about the price of your contracted plan per month compared to what other providers might have. Let's assume you are paying $80 for your service....while same service can be had for $50 elsewhere... you are paying $30 more a month x 24 = $720 + the $300 you spend initially + tax.
It's theoretical... no one knows what you're paying monthly on contract.
I was paying $250 for 6 lines on AT&T... that was my contract price... I could upgrade all 6 lines on contract and get phones etc.
I switched to T-mobile and pay $120 a month. The savings was substantial and not every line need a smartphone or an upgrade. I can get new phones on installment and pay $0 down. and still cost would be less than AT&T.
It's different for everyone. You might have a cheap grandfathered plan..who knows.
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He mentioned a "huge markup" on the phone. That was what I read and he said. Of course we have to pay for our service, for me, I am in a family plan with no actual contract for our service.
I was simply wondering about the price of a 2 year contract on the Note 4, I figured the $299.99 price would be more than a hint that I am interested in contract prices.
Now I have no choice though. Just this morning I was in the restroom and as soon as I was about to do #1, I got a notification and picked up my phone and dropped it in the bowl, luckily it was "clean" water but now I have no sound on my phone, can't watch Youtube videos, can't use the camera and there is a red light that literally doesn't go away, even if the phone is off... Trying the rice method but don't think it'll work.
Note 4 here I come I guess.
do you seriously think youre going to get a $900 phone for $300 without getting into a plan with substantial markup over 2 years ?
they are going to loan you the $600 at 50% interest for 2 years. then youre going to pay for the voice/data/network access on top of that.
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do you seriously think youre going to get a $900 phone for $300 without getting into a plan with substantial markup over 2 years ?
they are going to loan you the $600 at 50% interest for 2 years. then youre going to pay for the voice/data/network access on top of that.
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I'm done. I don't believe you understand how it works here or you might not get what I am saying.
I found out that Best Buy has a price adjustment policy so I'll take advantage of that, I'll be getting it next week and hopefully the price drops for a day or so, if not, oh well.
$299.99 plus tax, that's it, for the phone.
its simple arithmetic. they arent going to sell you a $900 phone for $300.
you pay every month for the cost of the phone with markup and you pay for the plan on top of that. not sure what else is there to understand. at&t is a business like any other carrier. they arent in it for charity. just because they bake it into other places on your bill like access charges doesnt mean the phone only costs $300.
I guess it'll work just like it does here. You simply pay the cost of the phone (£0.00 in the UK), then you pay the rest with your monthly payment to the carrier (The actual minutes /texts /data are irrelevant as they have to provide them and 99% of companies offer unlimited everything now anyway barring data).
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its simple arithmetic. they arent going to sell you a $900 phone for $300.
you pay every month for the cost of the phone with markup and you pay for the plan on top of that. not sure what else is there to understand. at&t is a business like any other carrier. they arent in it for charity. just because they bake it into other places on your bill like access charges doesnt mean the phone only costs $300.
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In the US, regardless of whether your phone is unlocked or on contract, the amount you pay for a phone/text/data plan is the same.
Plans have just been recently introduced (AT&T Next, Verizon Edge, etc) where you owe nothing up front for the device and pay extra on your monthly payment to pay for the phone, but you wind up paying more in the long run than you would have if you'd just shelled out the cash up front for a 2-year plan.
Cell phones are subsidized here if you lock into a 2-year mobile contract and pay anywhere from $50-$400 up front depending on the phone.
OP, along with me, just cares about when the expected price drop will be. Was anyone around or paying attention when, approximately, the Note 3 dropped in price for those in contract? Instead of talking about how awesome off-contract is or correcting the poor fella, a proper response would be, "Yeah, man, I recall after the Mobile World Congress last year, the Note 3 dropped to $200 on-contract." Or, "The Note 3 is still $300, give it up, it will never go down."
I'm an unhappy AT&T S5 (grandfathered "unlimited" data plan) owner and am going off-contract once this one is up. My girlfriend wants the Note 4 and her grandma pays her cell phone bill so all we care about is the up-front cost. She is eligible to get a new phone in a month and we'd like to plan around that. Many of you fine folks are ridiculously resourceful and your prior experience can help us plan around that.

Let the battle begin.

When I pre-ordered my Note 7 I did it on a two-year contract while still maintaining my unlimited data. Then after the first recall they had to bill me for my replacement phone and then it proceeded to be a battle to get the credit back for that phone and now that that's all settled we begin the battle. My latest Verizon bill has a charge of just over $500 which would be the balance of the phone after the portion I paid to initiate my 2 year contract. I really don't think Verizon has thought this out I don't think they can just drop a bomb like this on a customer especially considering I signed a contract with them to give them x amount of dollars roughly 350 and maintain service through them on that phone for 2 years now they're trying to cancel that contract and force me to pay the balance mediately which I expressly refuse to do and I don't think legally they can make me I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm pretty sure there's some kind of consumer protection that will not allow them to do this and I think they know what I keep getting higher up the food chain with no real answers. Today the Verizon rep offered to let me make payments on it I laughed at him but they won't see one penny of that money from me.
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Well I don't know if anybody cares but quick update I win the $500 charge that Verizon was trying to hit me with was the balance of the phone that was returned not the one that I have they screwed up in the way they process the return go figure.
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Did you return the phone? If so, was it through a Verizon store or through a return box? Also, aside from the $500 fiasco you just went through, did you get your refund for the device cost?
No I only returned the first recalled phone and they tried to Bill me $500 for the early termination fee because the return was processed incorrectly. I am keeping the second phone and my total out-of-pocket is roughly $300 and as of now I have no contract.
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I see. I'm in a similar situation as mine was with a two year contract as well. However, it's provided by my employer and the b2b rep forced me out of it. Was just wondering how your situation panned out.
I'm keeping mine and my fiancée's for a total cost of $0.00 [emoji16] the gave us our upgrades back and refunded the money from the original order.
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