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[INFO] Hardware list for Find 5

https://git.ngvincent.com/projects/oppo-x909-cm10/wiki/Device-documentation
There may be some errors on that list. Feel free to point them out
One major thing to find, is the display manufacturer.
The display driver should be orise, but I haven't nailed down the panel itself

paperWastage said:
https://git.ngvincent.com/projects/oppo-x909-cm10/wiki/Device-documentation
There may be some errors on that list. Feel free to point them out
One major thing to find, is the display manufacturer.
The display driver should be orise, but I haven't nailed down the panel itself
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I believe OPPO said the screen is made by JDI
I suspect it's this one...

CARL AT OPPO FORUMS HAS CONFIRMED DISPLAY IS MADE BY JDI - SORRY FOR THE MISINFORMATION THAT I FOUND ON THE INTERNET SAYING THEY WERE MADE BY LG
JDI (Japan Display Inc.) is going beyond tech demonstrators with its announcement of impending mass production of a 5-inch full-HD, 1,080 x 1,920 display with 443 PPI. In a joint venture with Hitachi, Sony, and Toshiba, JDI will produce TFT-LCD modules utilizing LTPS (Low-Temperature Poly-Silicon) and IPS (In-Plane Switching) technology to manufacture screens displaying approximately 2.3 times more information than currently possible on 720 HD (720 x 1,280) display screens. The results will include very high contrast, wide viewing angles, and high luminance with minimal color-shift.
Sharp Corporation has begun production of its own 5-inch full-HD (1,080 x 1,920 pixels) LCD displays for smartphones employing CG-Silicon (Continuous-Grain Silicon) technology along with a new pixel design. CG-Silicon allows for fewer layers, and increases manufacturing yield. Another Sharp advantage is their 5-inch screens can operate at lower power consumption levels as compared to other 5-inch displays. At 443 PPI the Sharp panels provide as many pixels on a 5-inch screen as found on full-HD TV displays, as also does the JDI panel. Manufacturing has already started in Japan, and Sharp will ramp up volume in October 2012. It should be noted that Sharp makes the 5-inch screen for Apple’s most recent iPhone 5, with only 326 PPI.
LG will provide display screens for the Chinese company Oppo, which announced the Oppo Find 5 smartphone. The announcement indicated 440 PPI, but that is easily accounted for as a rounding error in PPI calculators, and should be equivalent to the Sharp and JDI displays; all three of which offer a PPI count that provides a 35% pixel density improvement over Apple’s so-called “retina display”. The new LG display screens will include AH-IPS(Advanced High Performance In-Plane Switching) to provide wide viewing angles, excellent accuracy in expression of color palettes, and rapid response to touch inputs.
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However, a more recent press release from JDI regarding display prototypes for vehicles suggests that a WhiteMagic display could be inbound. It talks of a 5-inch 1080p display with 438 PPI and “low power consumption that is approximately 50% less by utilizing an RGBW pixel structure”. This display also includes an “integrated touch function (without cover glass)”, probably similar to Sony’s sensor-on-lens touch screen technology.
As a reminder, a WhiteMagic display has the red, green blue and white (RGBW) sub pixels aligned horizontally. The additional white sub-pixel significantly increases display brightness compared to normal LCD and OLED screens. The technology can be used to double the brightness or to save 50% of the backlight power, as suggested by the JDI press release. There’s no guarantee WhiteMagic will appear in this 5-inch 1080p display, but it looks like the technology is there if Sony wants to use it.
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The Chinese company Oppo, released the Oppo Finder earlier this year, claiming the title of “world’s thinnest smartphone” with a thickness of only 6.65mm at its thinnest point, and 7.1mm at its thickest part. The iPhone 5 measures 7.6mm thick.
Oppo-Ration Apple Slicer
Oppo now says it will bring the Oppo Find 5 to consumers with a 5-inch, 1,080p, 441 PPI display, at a resolution of 1,920 x 1,080, in that same 6.65mm form-factor. It seems quite likely the Oppo Find 5 display will be made by LG. Apple should be wincing right about now, and not only because of the display. The other Oppo Find 5 specifications could slice Apple to the core.
Full specifications, pricing, and a release date have not been announced.
Specification Oppo-Rations
5-Inch, 441 PPI, 1,920 x 1,080 Resolution, AH-IPS Display Screen
6.65 Millimeters Thick
Qualcomm Quad-Core Snapdragon S4 Pro Processor
Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
2,500 mAh Non-Removable Battery
2 GB of RAM
12 MP Rear Camera
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http://www.j-display.com/english/index.html
Japan Display Inc an LG created most displays for Iphone 5. They have also created displays for other phones in the past along with many other phones.
If you look iPhone 5 Scratch Test With Knife and Keys on Video you surely think that new iPhone have no shortages. But it is not true. There is an iPhone 5 shortage as a result of in-cell display. Let’s check out what we found. According to many news iPhone 5 has been outstripping supply because of a shortage of the in-cell display units utilized in the new phone.
The new iPhone utilizes in-cell screen technologies, which rolls with each other the display and touch-sensitive elements of the screen in order to make it thinner. These displays, though, tend to be more labor-intensive to make. Which means the problem.
At first Apple was using LG Display Co. and Japan Display Inc. to create the new four-inch screens. To make sure manufacturing remained high, though, Apple drafted in the help of Sharp to produce more displays.
Based on reliable resources, however, Sharp can not meet demand. Reports claim that the company struggled to fix problems in the screens-the knock-on result being delayed deliveries of IPhone's and less stock to offer to consumers.
Of course, this really is all based on analyst reports and not cold, hard numbers from Apple itself-so it is best taken with a pinch of salt. And, uh, a very good reason for selling out of phones may be the fact that they sold 5 million of the things, instead of, you know, having minor provider issues.
In any case, no doubt iPhone 5 shortage with in-cell display it’s a issue Apple would like to fix soon. For the time being, you can at the least now reserve an iPhone 5 for in-store pick-up, so at least you will not have to wait in line.
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News Release
October 4, 2012
Japan Display to Start Mass Production of Full-HD LCD Modules for Smartphones
－ 5.0-inch module with 1080x1920 pixels 443ppi for high information content －
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Tokyo, October 4, 2012. Japan Display Inc. (JDI), a leader of LCD technologies, announced today that it will start mass-production shipment of 5.0-inch full-HD (1080x1920 pixels) TFT-LCD modules for smartphone applications this October.
Today, mobile information devices, such as smartphones, are increasingly more sophisticated and functional. As a result, compact-size displays are required which are able to show a large amount of information.
JDI is developing LCD modules to meet these growing requirements, based on its advanced core technologies, such as low-temperature poly-silicon (LTPS) for high resolution, in-plane switching (IPS) for wide viewing angle performance, and thinner backlight design for compact size, among others.
The features and benefits of JDI's latest module include:
1) High resolution to display a large amount of information
The 5.0-inch full-HD, 443 ppi* module is able to display approximately 2.3 times more information as compared to 720HD (720x1280 pixels).
2) Wide viewing angle and high contrast for fine and beautiful pictures
IPS technology enables wide viewing angle performance and high contrast, with minimal color shift-and along with the module’s high luminance (500cd/m2)-contributes to finer and more beautiful pictures.
3) Large display area, slim, and compact-size LCD module
The thinner LCD module (1.4mm), combined with its narrow frame (1.2mm), allows for compact smartphone design.
This new product is well-suited for high-end mobile smartphones designed to display a large amount of information. With this new product introduction JDI continues to demonstrate its leadership in the global small-size, full-HD resolution LCD module market.
JDI will demonstrate this product in booth #2701 at FPD International 2012, October 31 through November 2, 2012, in Yokohama, Japan.
*ppi is an abbreviation for pixels per inch
Module Specifications
Display mode Transmissive　IPS
NTSC ratio 71％
Contrast ratio 1000:1（typical）
Viewing angle > 160 degrees, top/bottom and left/right（with CR>100:1）
Screen size 5.0-inch (12.6cm) diagonal
Number of pixels 1080xRGB ｘ 1920 (full-HD)
Resolution 443ppi
Luminance 500cd/m2　(typical)
Dimensions 64.3㎜ (width) x 118.8㎜ (height) x 1.4㎜ (thickness)
Information in the press releases, including product prices and specifications, content of services and contact information, is current on the date of the press announcement,but is subject to change without prior notice.
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http://micgadget.com/31865/oppo-find-5-now-official-5-inch-1080p-441ppi-display-quad-core-and-super-slow-motion-filming-video/
Oppo Find 5 Now Official: 5-inch 1080p 441ppi Display, Quad Core and Super Slow Motion Filming (Video)
[UPDATE] OPPO unveiled the Oppo Find 5, the company latest entry in the high-end smartphone territory. The Find 5 most striking feature is the 1080p LCD display that boasts an amazing 441ppi pixel density. That’s the same resolution and pixel density as the display of the HTC Droid DNA/Butterfly. Similar to the Xiaomi Mi2 launch this summer, OPPO’s launch was held in the 798 arts district in Beijing. The event, which took place at a art center, included more than 500 attendees. We attended the launch event, and got up a close look with the new full HD phablet device. It was a nobby launch event that was quite impressive, the Chinese handset maker seem to has an ambitions to become a recognized player in the international market…
OPPO newest flagship the Find 5 packs some of the best specifications, starting with a powerful Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core chip clocked at 1.5GHz and 2GB of RAM. The 5-inch touch screen display has a 1920 x 1080 resolution which is an AH-IPS LCD panel manufactured by LG. The rear shooter of the Find 5 is fitted with a 13MP sensor, while the front camera packs 1.9MP. The stacked CMOS sensor delivers F/2.2 aperture, with 4-layer coating lens and blue glass filters. It can record videos and snap photos in HDR mode at the same time. Find 5 is the first smartphone in the world with this ability generate by hardware. It only comes with 16GB storage with no option to expand via an microSD card. The battery is a 2500mAh unit, which is adequate, but seem less for a 5-inch device.
Media capabilities on OPPO Find 5 are enhanced by the Dolby 3D surround and Dirac HD, a high-end audio system that has never been integrated on a mobile device before. Only companies such as Rolls Royce, Bentley, BMW, offer this type of technology. And best of all, the Find 5’s stock earbuds are fine-tuned for Dirac audio system. The new phone also comes with NFC, gently touching two phones will pair them in less than a tenth of a second, 50 times faster than Bluetooth pairing. The SmartTags, a small label with built-in-chip, will also add simplicity and convenience for user to activate any application with preset. Find 5 also supports Wi-Fi Display and DLNA, two functionality that allow projecting screen contents onto HDTV wirelessly.
OPPO Find 5 is compatible with the following networks: UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+/HSPA+42 (850, 1700, 1900, 2100MHz), GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz). Too bad there is no 4G LTE. It will launch in early 2013 across select markets. Judging from the existence of the US site, we can speculate that the OPPO Find 5 will sell for $499 ( contract free, 16GB version) in the United States. In China, the device is slated to go for 2,998 yuan (about $480). We’ll keep you posted as soon as we find out more.
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I think that oppo have now the JDI display (best quality for good reviews and market development) In future is possible to switch for LG displays. All phone brands (Lg ,HTC ,Samsung) after 3-6 months, the production quality and price drops for a expensive phone.... only the profit remains the same

http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/oppo-find-5-reviews.555/page-8#post-19785
reading between the lines, probably JDI

I Stand Corrected
I spent over an freakin hour last night trying to figure out what Display this phone had, and Carl had told us long ago its a JDI Display
I must have missed the thread on www.oppoforums.com when it was posted. Their was a lot of info on the web I found while looking, saying that it was made by LG though?
If Carl said its JDI then that's what it is. Anyways, I did find some really interesting info on JDI though and their pixel layouts, along with the way they do their arrangements. They are doing some pretty interesting things I was unaware of, I don't think have ever heard of JDI until last night.

drvsbsm said:
I spent over an freakin hour last night trying to figure out what Display this phone had, and Carl had told us long ago its a JDI Display
I must have missed the thread on www.oppoforums.com when it was posted. Their was a lot of info on the web I found while looking, saying that it was made by LG though?
If Carl said its JDI then that's what it is. Anyways, I did find some really interesting info on JDI though and their pixel layouts, along with the way they do their arrangements. They are doing some pretty interesting things I was unaware of, I don't think have ever heard of JDI until last night.
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Never heard of jdi either. They are most definitely going interesting things
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drvsbsm said:
I spent over an freakin hour last night trying to figure out what Display this phone had, and Carl had told us long ago its a JDI Display
I must have missed the thread on www.oppoforums.com when it was posted. Their was a lot of info on the web I found while looking, saying that it was made by LG though?
If Carl said its JDI then that's what it is. Anyways, I did find some really interesting info on JDI though and their pixel layouts, along with the way they do their arrangements. They are doing some pretty interesting things I was unaware of, I don't think have ever heard of JDI until last night.
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if you find any datasheet on the display, care to share it? (need to find a datasheet for the display and the Orise display controller, to play with gamma and other values in the kernel)

I got some time to spare soon, as soon as I finish this test wont take long 70 min timer. I will dive in.

Xperia Z2 vs. LG G3

With the LG G3 just around the corner, the decision for which handset to choose has been made so much tougher. I'm wondering where current or prospective Z2 owners stand. Personally i've been waiting for the Z2 in my country for quite some time now but after seeing the video and press renders of the potential LG G3, I have to say my mind has been swayed in LG's direction. Thoughts?

I just love my z2 and won't be going for g3 in any case
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I'm not much moved by the g3 by any means, though it is a gorgeous device... Im still getting the z2 in 2 weeks

I think lg gonna suffer in what matters the most to me, that is battery life. I mean, its fricking huge 5.5inch with 2k resolution and less battery capacity than g2. And not like you will notice more ppi cause we already have more than enough. We will see, but numbers doesnt sound to well
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ladelfm said:
With the LG G3 just around the corner, the decision for which handset to choose has been made so much tougher. I'm wondering where current or prospective Z2 owners stand. Personally i've been waiting for the Z2 in my country for quite some time now but after seeing the video and press renders of the potential LG G3, I have to say my mind has been swayed in LG's direction. Thoughts?
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I too am on the same boat with you, though it has been released some weeks ago here in Sweden, I haven't yet decided (the only concern is 16 Gb storage in Z2, am currently having htc OneX, 32 Gb, so it would be a great upgrade from many aspect, except the storage as it will turn out to a downgrade. I know there's external sd, but moving app data to that ext-sd is no longer supported in Android afaik) better to wait for G3 I think. If it also fails then Note4 can be the next alternative
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I hate screen size more than 5.3
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I think that:
Sony Xperia Z2 > LG G3
Areas where Sony wins:
+Build (aluminium vs plastic on G3)
+IP Rating (most likely G3 will not be water resistant)
+Front-facing speakers
+Screen size (5.2 inch seems plenty, 5.5 is a phablet)
+Sony's skin (LG has one of the uggliest ones on the market)
+20.7MP camera (as shown in many reviews it is one of the best if not the best in the world)
Areas where LG G3 wins:
+ Snapdragon 805 (vs 801 on Sony, Has anyone even got close to using up the potential of 801 yet? [maybe 4k recording])
but of course we want know for sure until the device is officially unveiled.

shem2409 said:
I think that:
Sony Xperia Z2 > LG G3
Areas where Sony wins:
+Build (aluminium vs plastic on G3)
+IP Rating (most likely G3 will not be water resistant)
+Front-facing speakers
+Screen size (5.2 inch seems plenty, 5.5 is a phablet)
+Sony's skin (LG has one of the uggliest ones on the market)
+20.7MP camera (as shown in many reviews it is one of the best if not the best in the world)
Areas where LG G3 wins:
+ Snapdragon 805 (vs 801 on Sony, Has anyone even got close to using up the potential of 801 yet? [maybe 4k recording])
but of course we want know for sure until the device is officially unveiled.
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I mostly agree but LG might have something up its sleeve I feel.Let's hope they come out with a great phone.Good competition is great for us consumers.
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paras said:
I mostly agree but LG might have something up its sleeve I feel.Let's hope they come out with a great phone.Good competition is great for us consumers.
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Let's see what the laser pointer on the back is for
But I do agree that every manufacturer should be bringing an exclusive feature to their phone as that motivates others to improve. I have tested the Galaxy S5 and the Z2 and currently am in the process of testing the HTC One M8 and for me Xperia Z2 is king. Each phone has features that I like though.

shem2409 said:
Let's see what the laser pointer on the back is for
But I do agree that every manufacturer should be bringing an exclusive feature to their phone as that motivates others to improve. I have tested the Galaxy S5 and the Z2 and currently am in the process of testing the HTC One M8 and for me Xperia Z2 is king. Each phone has features that I like though.
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I hate Samsung and S5.Sold htc one m7 and loved it buy m8 doesn't have anything New so didn't go that way.Sony Xperia z2 has everything and it's a beast to say the least.
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The only downside of the z2 is it's size, it looks like the 5.5 inch G3 is the same size as the 5.3 inch Z2.

I agree, I would say that a lot of the decision would probably come down to one handed usability personally. If the dimensions of the handsets are the same, I would be swayed more to the one that has the better feel in hand. A better processor to future proof things is obviously an added benefit and OIS is something nice to have. These screen's are just pushing my boundaries though. I remember 2 years ago i said i would never go over 4.7" and then last year i'll never go over 5" with my Galaxy S4, and here we are pushing 5.2 and now possibly 5.5? I don't think a phablet is what I want and could be the deciding factor. Side note: a lot of new reviews from today and yesterday are really praising the Z2. Decisions decisions.

coolmingli said:
The only downside of the z2 is it's size, it looks like the 5.5 inch G3 is the same size as the 5.3 inch Z2.
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HTC m8 is the same size as z2 but has only a 5 inch display..
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Jiyeon90 said:
HTC m8 is the same size as z2 but has only a 5 inch display..
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Sony is actually taller and wider:
Sony Xperia Z2: 146.8 x 73.3 x 8.2 mm
HTC One M8: 146.4 x 70.6 x 9.4 mm
Because the HTC is more oval it also feels less thick than it actually is and it is a lot more comfortable in one hand. I have tested both and can say that when it comes to just the design the HTC is superior. Sony wins in most other aspects though
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coolmingli said:
The only downside of the z2 is it's size, it looks like the 5.5 inch G3 is the same size as the 5.3 inch Z2.
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Tbh I would rather have a slightly smaller screen and front-facing speakers

For me, 5.2 is really as big as you want in a phone. Anything bigger is heading into Phablet territory so they are 2 very different phones. You can always wait and newer better phones will always come along.
Ive always had Samsung for a while but the Z2 was good enough on paper to jump ship and its a great phone, no regrets. As others have said, great build quality and specs which we all know. If you want to continue waiting regarding the LG, may as well wait a little longer for the rumoured Note 4 which will be even better and they are more comparable given its screen size.

In an hour and a half we shall see what my next phone will be. All the leaks seem promising, this will be a tough choice. I think if the overall dimensions are the same and it has metal construction, it would be a no brainer to go for the LG.

Dimensions are already available, its just a little bigger than z2. Dont fancy even wider phone

Assuming the leaks are true, here's my pre-annoucement breakdown:
G3:
+ larger screen, similar sized body
+ QHD screen, although personally this is arguable the Z2 screen is pretty amazing.
+ OIS camera
+ possibly quicker focusing
Z2:
+ 3GB RAM
+ more traditional button placement
+ waterproof IP58
+ 20MP 1/2.3" sensor w/ f/2.0 lens
Unknowns:
- Battery life, Z2 has excellent battery life
- G3 build/materials (matters for some)
- Removable battery
- QHD resolution impact on performance
Who knows, LG may have some more surprises but that's just how I see things. On the screen side of things, I'll be interesting if it's a pentile screen, and honestly I've always loved high res displays but I'm wondering if QHD would look any different than FHD on a 5" screen. Also there are more to displays than just resolution, color reproduction, white balance, brightness etc etc should also be considered.
Even assuming the G3 is waterproof with a QHD display, metal build and a removable battery, I'd still prefer a Z2 for it's excellent, large size camera sensor, exceptional battery life, larger RAM, and sexy looks.

G3 is made of metal
Apparently has a removable battery and
is the same size as the Z2
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With the knock on thing, the power buttons placement is not going to be an issue either.
It looks great. The even starts in 20 minutes.. I'll be watching it.

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and honestly I've always loved high res displays but I'm wondering if QHD would look any different than FHD on a 5" screen.
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Unless having bionic eyes, QHD is totally useless on screen smaller than 6". So, this is just a marketing argument.

Xperia Z3 Amazing Concept

Here I present Xperia Z3 Amazing Concept.
I worked for hours to prepare this and i am very bad at paintings
Xperia Z3 Awesome Concept Specs :
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DISPLAY IPS capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Type Triluminos Display
WhiteMagic Display
Sony Live Color LED
X-Reality PRO
Size 1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.2 inches (~424 ppi pixel density)
Quality Contrast ratio: 1595 (nominal), 1.1263 (sunlight)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
Dimensions139 x 70 x 8 mm
Weight 143 g
- IP68 certified - dust and water proof
- Water resistant over 1.5 Meter and 1 Hour
Protection Scratch Proof glass
PVD Coating
Speakers S-Force Pro Stereo Speakers
MicroSD Up to 128 GB
Internal 32 GB, 3 GB RAM
GPRS Up to 107 kbps
EDGE Up to 296 kbps
Speed HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.8 Mbps; LTE, Cat6, 100 Mbps UL, 300 Mbps DL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v4.1 with A2DP
NFC Yes
USB Yes, microUSB V3.0 (MHL 3), USB On-the-go, USB Host
CAMERA Primary 20.7 MP, 5248 х 3936 pixels 16:9, AutoFocus, LED Flash
Features 1/2.3'' sensor size, Carl Zeiss optics
Video Yes, [email protected](Practically Unlimited), [email protected], [email protected], video stabilization, HDR
Secondary Yes, 3 MP, [email protected]
FEATURES OSAndroid OS, v4.4.3 (KitKat)
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
CPU Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 450
GPU Adreno 420
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, Temprature Sensor
Radio FM radio with RDS
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support and GLONASS
- ANT+ support
- TV-out (via MHL 3 A/V link)
- New Improved Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- Xvid/MP4/H.263/H.264/H.265 player
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Ion 3500 mAh Li-poly battery with Supercharge Tech
Stand-by Up to 1000 h (2G) / Up to 1080 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 19 h (2G) / Up to 24 h (3G)
Music play Up to 180 h

Make it 5.5 inches and you might have a battery bigger than 3200mAh, but I like the design
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What about the booloader? Do they come unlocked stock?
:good:

coolmingli said:
What about the booloader? Do they come unlocked stock?
:good:
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This is just a concept
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ggvggfgf
Hhhh mmmm, I liked what the top and bottom edges discounted, it was very similar to the Xperia that I have now, the ZL
Speaking of specs, I doubt very much, MUCH SONY will enter a Snapdragon 805 to maintain the same camera specifications or display, it seems to me ridiculous that supposedly SONY have thought at some point go from 801 to 805 SnapDragon just for that incorporate the phone function up to 10 fingers on the screen, it's just ridiculous, not worth at all.

fcvwg said:
Hhhh mmmm, I liked what the top and bottom edges discounted, it was very similar to the Xperia that I have now, the ZL
Speaking of specs, I doubt very much, MUCH SONY will enter a Snapdragon 805 to maintain the same camera specifications or display, it seems to me ridiculous that supposedly SONY have thought at some point go from 801 to 805 SnapDragon just for that incorporate the phone function up to 10 fingers on the screen, it's just ridiculous, not worth at all.
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Lol
Upto 10 fingers on screen has nothing to do with 805
Its just normal in every sony device.
Even xperia z has 10 finger touch
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kumar abhishek said:
Lol
Upto 10 fingers on screen has nothing to do with 805
Its just normal in every sony device.
Even xperia z has 10 finger touch
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Well, I did not know, I thought it was something new, however we did not get out of the main idea of ​​my comment, what is ridiculous SONY decide to spend the Snapdragon 801 Z2 to 805 for the Z3 to to ultimately maintain virtually the same features, if you did not know, and according to the website of Qualcomm, the difference between the 800 and the 801 is "little" significant, but enough to incorporate the capability of recording video in 4K, merely following this logic, next Z3 should have something very new or more powerful (like the camera, such des go from 20.7 to 25 MP) for justifying the memory, and it is shown that as Qualcomm, the difference between the 801 and 805 it is really significant for the 800 to 801.

fcvwg said:
Well, I did not know, I thought it was something new, however we did not get out of the main idea of ​​my comment, what is ridiculous SONY decide to spend the Snapdragon 801 Z2 to 805 for the Z3 to to ultimately maintain virtually the same features, if you did not know, and according to the website of Qualcomm, the difference between the 800 and the 801 is "little" significant, but enough to incorporate the capability of recording video in 4K, merely following this logic, next Z3 should have something very new or more powerful (like the camera, such des go from 20.7 to 25 MP) for justifying the memory, and it is shown that as Qualcomm, the difference between the 801 and 805 it is really significant for the 800 to 801.
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Lets see
Though Acoording to my concept camera is definitely much better with ever larger sensor OIS optical zoom and xenon flash
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To me a good concept is one that follow all the leaks and look authentic that try to predict how the next device will look like, in other words: increase the thickness to 9mm, make the top and bottom bezels even in size, move the camera to a bit above the center of the back (it is pretty much impossible to place a huge camera sensor like z2's on top with ultra thin top bezel), replace the xenon flash with dual LED, update the sides with the leaked right and left metal frame, remove the docking port cause according to the frames sony is going for waterproofed usb port and wireless charging so also make the usb port exposed, just look at the leaked frames. the base is a good start but try to make it look authentic and not like cut and paste and not wishful thinking spec.
if you do what i wrote your concept will look a lot better.

kumar abhishek said:
Here I present Xperia Z3 Amazing Concept.
I worked for hours to prepare this and i am very bad at paintings
Xperia Z3 Awesome Concept Specs :
DISPLAY IPS capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Type Triluminos Display
WhiteMagic Display
Sony Live Color LED
X-Reality PRO
Size 1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.2 inches (~424 ppi pixel density)
Quality Contrast ratio: 1595 (nominal), 1.1263 (sunlight)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
Dimensions139 x 70 x 8 mm
Weight 143 g
- IP68 certified - dust and water proof
- Water resistant over 1.5 Meter and 1 Hour
Protection Scratch Proof glass
PVD Coating
Speakers S-Force Pro Stereo Speakers
MicroSD Up to 128 GB
Internal 32 GB, 3 GB RAM
GPRS Up to 107 kbps
EDGE Up to 296 kbps
Speed HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.8 Mbps; LTE, Cat6, 100 Mbps UL, 300 Mbps DL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v4.1 with A2DP
NFC Yes
USB Yes, microUSB V3.0 (MHL 3), USB On-the-go, USB Host
CAMERA Primary 20.7 MP, 5248 х 3936 pixels 16:9, AutoFocus, XENON Flash
Features 1/2.2'' sensor size, 3X Optical Zoom, OIS
Video Yes, [email protected](Practically Unlimited), [email protected], [email protected], video stabilization, HDR
Secondary Yes, 3 MP, [email protected]
FEATURES OSAndroid OS, v4.4.3 (KitKat)
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
CPU Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 450
GPU Adreno 420
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, Temprature Sensor
Radio FM radio with RDS
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support and GLONASS
- ANT+ support
- TV-out (via MHL 3 A/V link)
- New Improved Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- Xvid/MP4/H.263/H.264/H.265 player
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Ion 3500 mAh Li-poly battery with Supercharge Tech
Stand-by Up to 1000 h (2G) / Up to 1080 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 19 h (2G) / Up to 24 h (3G)
Music play Up to 180 h
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i think it will drop the omni-balance design for new flagship beacuse Sony announced they will go for new design for 2014 H2 flagship
also no FHD it will be QHD this time as rivals have already thrown QHD screens in market.

amirprog said:
To me a good concept is one that follow all the leaks and look authentic that try to predict how the next device will look like, in other words: increase the thickness to 9mm, make the top and bottom bezels even in size, move the camera to a bit above the center of the back (it is pretty much impossible to place a huge camera sensor like z2's on top with ultra thin top bezel), replace the xenon flash with dual LED, update the sides with the leaked right and left metal frame, remove the docking port cause according to the frames sony is going for waterproofed usb port and wireless charging so also make the usb port exposed, just look at the leaked frames. the base is a good start but try to make it look authentic and not like cut and paste and not wishful thinking spec.
if you do what i wrote your concept will look a lot better.
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I can change the specs.
I think only camera part is where i added too much unrealistic specs
About image i am very poor at editing stuff.
It took me hours to make them image and you can still find many errors in it [emoji17]
Edit: Made some changes in camera specs as well as attached a more refined pic with led flash and waterproofed usb port btw the sides are pvc coated in black the leaked frame seems white version
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Sony Xperia Z4, Z4 Tablet, Z4 Compact, Z4 Ultra: Exclusive Leak

So the Z4 Compact phone is going to remain 4.6" display, but being bumped to 1920 x 1080 HD. That is awesome. The 10" tablet specs sound amazing, unfortunately, I prefer the 8" tablet size.
Sony Xperia Z4, Z4 Tablet, Z4 Compact, Z4 Ultra: Exclusive Leak

kandelai said:
So the Z4 Compact phone is going to remain 4.6" display, but being bumped to 1920 x 1080 HD. That is awesome. The 10" tablet specs sound amazing, unfortunately, I prefer the 8" tablet size.
Sony Xperia Z4, Z4 Tablet, Z4 Compact, Z4 Ultra: Exclusive Leak
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a 1080p resolution on a 4.6 display is a total waste. After ~320ppi anything else will just consume more power with no visual benefit.

jug6ernaut said:
a 1080p resolution on a 4.6 display is a total waste. After ~320ppi anything else will just consume more power with no visual benefit.
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I totally agree. I think the current 720p screen is beautiful, and if it means subtracting from the awesome battery life (unless battery specs change in Z4C), then it is a total waste. I think they are doing it for the higher pixel density crowd. It is the only negative potential buyers see on the phone because of the new push for higher resolution. I was even turned off initially thinking it was just another watered down compact phone, until I read the reviews in detail of how awesome the display is and all the other specs.

Ahh to get a Z3C or to wait.
I'm more interested in the new sensor for the camera
So im assuming the 801 to 810 is a huge jump.
Wonder what the battery life will be like too.
Im all for increased battery life

It doesn't sound like a dead cert the the Z4 will be coming out in compact form. Sony does usually skip a model with the compact versions.
But the changes rumored for the regular Z4 will be awesome -- Qi charging, exposed micro USB port, no more dedicated magnetic charging port (which will make cases much simpler). That is basically my list of what could be improved on the Z3. Now if only Sony would tell us it will have Gorilla Glass on both sides :laugh:

So I bought a brand new device day one a month ago and now the successor is announced it's a strange world we're living in....

King p1n said:
Ahh to get a Z3C or to wait.
I'm more interested in the new sensor for the camera
So im assuming the 801 to 810 is a huge jump.
Wonder what the battery life will be like too.
Im all for increased battery life
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Since Sony is producing flagships every 6 months, you can wait forever there will always follow a better one

cyphomatic said:
Since Sony is producing flagships every 6 months, you can wait forever there will always follow a better one
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The Z4 will be the start of yearly flagships

jug6ernaut said:
a 1080p resolution on a 4.6 display is a total waste. After ~320ppi anything else will just consume more power with no visual benefit.
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That's only true if you have average eyesight and you are at least 12" away from the screen. I use my phone and can readily distinguish pixels on my z1c (and its slightly-denser-than-z3c 720p screen) in a variety of situations. There are further issues for rendering most eastern languages, where they can take advantage of >500ppi screens quite easily.
Yes, there are tradeoffs involved, including potentially less battery life, but to say there is "no visual benefit" is simply ignorant. I will welcome the sharper screen, and I know I am not the only one.

jug6ernaut said:
a 1080p resolution on a 4.6 display is a total waste. After ~320ppi anything else will just consume more power with no visual benefit.
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teiglin said:
That's only true if you have average eyesight and you are at least 12" away from the screen. I use my phone and can readily distinguish pixels on my z1c (and its slightly-denser-than-z3c 720p screen) in a variety of situations. There are further issues for rendering most eastern languages, where they can take advantage of >500ppi screens quite easily.
Yes, there are tradeoffs involved, including potentially less battery life, but to say there is "no visual benefit" is simply ignorant. I will welcome the sharper screen, and I know I am not the only one.
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I have better-than-average eyesight (about 20-15), and I can barely distinguish individual pixels on my Z3C, and only when holding it too close to my face to actually use. I would consider anything over 300 PPI good enough, and anything over 350 PPI perfect.
The Z4C being 1080p might be a disappointment if it results in a loss of battery life, but maybe they'll improve their battery tech enough to make up for it. In any case, wireless charging will be very nice to have.

King p1n said:
The Z4 will be the start of yearly flagships
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I keep hearing that but do you have a source?
Personally the upgrades I want to see in the upcoming Z4C/Z5C are:
Wireless charging/ waterproof usb port
Better camera/curved lens/OIS
Atleast 32GB base storage + sd
Better front facing speakers
MORE battery life
I'm fine with 720p at 4.6 but 1080p would be nice if the battery is increased and the hardware is improved to match (Although imagine an 810 with a 720p screen :laugh: )
3GB+ RAM SD 810 or better, yada yada

AK4TAY7BEN said:
I keep hearing that but do you have a source?
Personally the upgrades I want to see in the upcoming Z4C/Z5C are:
Wireless charging/ waterproof usb port
Better camera/curved lens/OIS
Atleast 32GB base storage + sd
Better front facing speakers
MORE battery life
I'm fine with 720p at 4.6 but 1080p would be nice if the battery is increased and the hardware is improved to match (Although imagine an 810 with a 720p screen :laugh: )
3GB+ RAM SD 810 or better, yada yada
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Don't have the link at hand but the same website said last month that's what their source revealed to them.

Well they could always do what AMD and nVidia do.... rebadge old products.... Then Z3 becomes Z4 compact .

mattdm said:
I have better-than-average eyesight (about 20-15), and I can barely distinguish individual pixels on my Z3C, and only when holding it too close to my face to actually use. I would consider anything over 300 PPI good enough, and anything over 350 PPI perfect.
The Z4C being 1080p might be a disappointment if it results in a loss of battery life, but maybe they'll improve their battery tech enough to make up for it. In any case, wireless charging will be very nice to have.
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I also have great eyesight and can easily spot the inferior display. But has anyone compared the Z3C to the One m7? I couldn't believe my own eyes when I compared the same HD YouTube video on each display only to see that the Z3C blew the m7 away! ?

Issemann said:
I also have great eyesight and can easily spot the inferior display. But has anyone compared the Z3C to the One m7? I couldn't believe my own eyes when I compared the same HD YouTube video on each display only to see that the Z3C blew the m7 away! ��
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There are many things to improve (constrast,brightness etc) in a screen and let's hope they focus on these.
Anyway stuff that i want to see in the upcoming Z4C:
-Same footprint device with 4.6-4.8'' screen @ 720p resolution
-S805,3GB ram 32GB storage+SD
-Better camera and if possible OIS
-2800mah battery
-IR Blaster
-Dual sim
-Single covered port for sim/sd card and water resistant USB port so we can find a decent case
-Matte back as in Z3 tablet compact
-And of course Lollipop out of the box

Invalid_GR said:
There are many things to improve (constrast,brightness etc) in a screen and let's hope they focus on these.
Anyway stuff that i want to see in the upcoming Z4C:
-Same footprint 4.6-4.8'' screen size 720p resolution
-S805,3GB ram 32GB storage+SD
-Better camera and if possible OIS
-2800mah battery
-IR Blaster
-Dual sim
-Single covered port for sim/sd card and not protect usb port so we can find a decent case
-Matte back as in Z3 tablet compact
-And of course Lollipop out of the box
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I would buy this phone in a heartbeat.

EYeah ! Lag will be impossible with that Chipset and
720 but I think they will go higher res anyway.
I do not care if the phone is 10mm thick I want at least a
3000 mah battery.
This Z4 if ruggedly built may be a 2 year type phone , so
wonderfully overspecced.
Hope it's rugged Device and fully engineered Camera this time with digital and OIS.
I will pay tops for this, then I won't wish for a Note 4 Compact / Alpha type thing....
Love to see a full 810 in a Compact !
More wattage than HTC Speakers and maybe Kevlar Drivers like tiny studio monitors -already waterproof.

I'm not sure such wish lists of components and features will ever actually fit in such a small phone. But we can dream :laugh:

Actually I think this can be produced given the fact that since 2 years the motherboard is smaller and smaller :thumbup:
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I really hope there is no compact with the next release but If the z4c is real, I'll be broke again.. Damn you Sony!
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One plus one vs one plus 2 what do you think who is real flagship killer

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ONE PLUS ONE:
GSM/HSPA/LTE
BODY Dimensions 152.9 x 75.9 x 8.9 mm (6.02 x 2.99 x 0.35 in)
Weight 162 g (5.71 oz)
SIM Micro-SIM
DISPLAY Type LTPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.5 inches (~71.9% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 1080 x 1920 pixels (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 3
- CyanogenMod 12 (after SW update)
PLATFORM OS Android OS, v4.4.2 (KitKat), upgradable to v5.0.2 (Lollipop)
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801
CPU Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 400
GPU Adreno 330
MEMORY Card slot No
Internal 16/64 GB, 3 GB RAM
CAMERA Primary 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, autofocus, dual-LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, panorama, HDR
Video [email protected], 2160p(DCI)@24fps, [email protected], [email protected],
HDR, stereo sound rec., check quality
Secondary 5 MP, [email protected]
SOUND Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, dual mono speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
COMMS WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.1, A2DP
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
NFC Yes
Radio No
USB microUSB v2.0, USB Host
FEATURES Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Java No
- ANT+ support
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- MP4/H.264/WMV player
- MP3/eAAC+/WMA/WAV/FLAC player
- Document viewer
- Photo viewer/editor
- Voice memo/dial/commands
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Po 3100 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time
MISC Colors Silk White, Sandstone Black
SAR US 0.62 W/kg (head) 0.75 W/kg (body)
Price group 5/10
TESTS Performance Basemark OS II: 1196 / Basemark OS II 2.0: 1230
Basemark X: 13129
Display Contrast ratio: 799 (nominal), 1.961 (sunlight)
Camera Photo / Video
Loudspeaker Voice 74dB / Noise 73dB / Ring 80dB
Audio quality Noise -94.1dB / Crosstalk -94.3dB
ONE PLUS TWO
GSM/HSPA/LTE
BODY Dimensions 151.8 x 74.9 x 9.9 mm (5.98 x 2.95 x 0.39 in)
Weight 175 g (6.17 oz)
SIM Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)
- Fingerprint sensor
DISPLAY Type LTPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.5 inches (~73.3% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 1080 x 1920 pixels (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 4
- Oxygen UI
PLATFORM OS Android OS, v5.1 (Lollipop)
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8994 Snapdragon 810
CPU Quad-core Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 1.8 GHz Cortex-A57
GPU Adreno 430
MEMORY Card slot No
Internal 16 GB, 3 GB RAM
64 GB, 4 GB RAM
CAMERA Primary 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, optical image stabilization, laser autofocus,
dual-LED flash
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, panorama, HDR
Video [email protected], 2160p(DCI)@24fps, [email protected], [email protected]
Secondary 5 MP, [email protected]
SOUND Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
COMMS WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.1, A2DP
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
Radio To be confirmed
USB microUSB v2.0, Type-C reversible connector
FEATURES Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Java No
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- DivX/Xvid/MP4/H.265 player
- MP3/eAAC+/WMA/WAV/FLAC player
- Document viewer
- Photo/video editor
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Po 3300 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time
MISC Colors Sandstone Black
SAR EU 0.43 W/kg
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Great specs and price, but lack of NFC and quick charge support doesnt make this device any flagship killer

Well, moto x style or pure is an better otion for a flagship killer

It got minor improvement over op1 nothing special.
-sd810: a lot of negative things, so sd801 still good.
-4gb ram: its nice to have but I always got 700mb free.
-finger scan: again its nice, but I always swipe to unlock.. much quicker.
-USB type c: reversible good but still slow USB 2.0
-Thicker and heavier.
-No NFC, quick charge, wireless charge, no OTG.
-No USF 2.0 still using eMMC as op1.
I think its a good phone for first time buyer.

droidnext said:
It got minor improvement over op1 nothing special.
-sd810: a lot of negative things, so sd801 still good.
-4gb ram: its nice to have but I always got 700mb free.
-finger scan: again its nice, but I always swipe to unlock.. much quicker.
-USB type c: reversible good but still slow USB 2.0
-Thicker and heavier.
-No NFC, quick charge, wireless charge, no OTG.
-No USF 2.0 still using eMMC as op1.
I think its a good phone for first time buyer.
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Yes i don't think 1+2 is real flagship killer
What this mean IF YOU DON'T HAVE
NO OTG
NO FAST CHARGE
NO NFC
COPY CAT DESIGN OF SAMSUNG PHONES LIKE GALAXY XYZ SERIES EVEN OPO IS BETTER IN DESIGN THAN OPT
NO QHD SCREEN
MONO SPEAKERS
NO REMARKABLE CAMERA
IT WILL NOT EVEN MAINTAIN ITS CROWN OF FLAGSHIP KILLER FOR 2015 (THEY SAID ITS FK 2016)
IF THEY WILL ADD ABOVE FEATURES IT WILL BE REAL FLAGSHIP KILLER
BUT ANY WAY THROUGH XDA DEVELOPERS I THINK WE WILL GET SOME BENEFIT TO OPO
WHEN THERE WAS DEVELOPMENT OF OPT
MAINLY KERNEL VERSION I. E 3.10
HURREY
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No flagship killer... not even in the discussion.
In fact, their slogan, "Never Settle," should be taken down/ replaced.
Still a great value, but missing the mark in many ways. I think they lost their way with the fingerprint scanner. To keep the price low, that took away from other more desirable/ useful features (NFC, Wireless Charging, QHD, higher pxl density camera, significant battery life).
This might be built more for the international market more than the US market. The Moto X Style/pure looks like the better choice for the US market.

Why isn't both an option? It's a legitimate answer.

CafeKampuchia said:
Why isn't both an option? It's a legitimate answer.
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both could be an option, but both is not an option at the same time.
What I mean to say is that, the OnePlus One itself is a flagship killer for 2014. True. For 2015 it does hold up on its own (though you have devices such as LG G3, the OPPO Find 7, and I think xiaomi mi note, if you can get it without the bloated price)
But if you take 2015 phones as a basis, the OnePlus Two isn't a flagship killer, because either it never was, or got dethroned by Motorola Moto X Style.

im more concerned about their refusal to scrap the completely ridiculous invite system, after the amount of grief they got last time and the amount of people put off from buying the phone as they were not prepared to wait months they've gone and done it again and come out with nonsense like plenty more invites, well they weren't bankng of getting over 2 million requests so they'll never be able to accommodate all those people, ok some might be multiple email signups but i estimate at least 65% are genuine,
My OPO still running perfectly but at this stage i need a new phone, id love an S6 Edge but poor battery life and ridiculous price tag has put me off, but certainly i wont be waiting months for a 1 + 2 invite so ill be searching elsewhere, maybe Huawei or something.

A.VOID said:
No flagship killer... not even in the discussion.
In fact, their slogan, "Never Settle," should be taken down/ replaced.
Still a great value, but missing the mark in many ways. I think they lost their way with the fingerprint scanner. To keep the price low, that took away from other more desirable/ useful features (NFC, Wireless Charging, QHD, higher pxl density camera, significant battery life).
This might be built more for the international market more than the US market. The Moto X Style/pure looks like the better choice for the US market.
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You're right, not a flagship killer at all... Which makes sense considering it's half the price or less than the premium flagships out there. Just a good buzz word.
As for the Moto phones being good for the US market: I decided on the OPO over the previous Moto/Nexus 6 phones because of build quality problems. I know the OPO had its own issues, but I'd probably trust more in the early releases of the OP2 than these new Motos.
As for right now, I just replaced the LCD and housing on my OPO. I'm in no rush for the OP2, but wouldn't be against it if my invite gets sent out in the next couple months.

Neither ever was a flagship killer lol. These devices are for low budget people. 1+1 always had crappy screen. That yellowish urine at the bottom was hardware issue. While the 1+2 is biggest joke of the year. Whenever I see it get compared to real flagship devies I keep laughing.
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ambervals6 said:
Neither ever was a flagship killer lol. These devices are for low budget people. 1 1 always had crappy screen. That yellowish urine at the bottom was hardware issue. While the 1 2 is biggest joke of the year. Whenever I see it get compared to real flagship devies I keep laughing.
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Low budget peoples means
My opo is 6 month old no problem at all in software or hardware
Peoples who are complaining yellow tint and touch issues got faulty handsets
PEOPLES WITH OPO=LOW BUDGET PEOPLES
Its not true its because of thinking
YES IT IS TRUE THAT QUALITY OF HARDWARE IS NOT TOPNOTCH LIKE ON SONY/SAMSUNG BUT ITS NOT SO LOW QUALITY
but it has software quality is topnotch
and though we purchased most Premium devices like sgs6 iphone they don't have removable battery its going to die in few years about 5-6
So you have to change your device
so why to pay 50% more bucks when OPO will reach its limits like Premium devices

Open development vs close development software.

I jumped the gun and ordered a oneplus 2. After using it for a few weeks, I went back to my oneplus one. So much better. On the oneplus oneone, software is more stable and smoother, battery life is MUCH better, vibration motor is better, speaker is louder, phone is lighter, edges of phone aren't slippery, phone is much more comfortable to hold, back is flatter so doesn't wobble around on tables when typing, stereo speakers, no useless fingerprint scanner, faster charging, no notification switch that toggles in your pocket. The oneplus one really is the 2015 flagship killer it was advertised to be, but boy does the 2 disappoint.

Well I got a OP2 invite yesterday..
And after doing my normal xda thread reading....
I opted to buy the 64gb OPO and let the OP2 invite expire...
Of course my 64gb bamboo moto x Pure had a small part in my decision

I still think oneplus one really a value proposition . First is its price and second is its features. Although OPT is good enough to beat OPO but later is not a flagship killer mainly because OPT does not have NFC plus some software related issues , which OP need to rectify to be called as flagship killer.

Oneplus one is a beautiful device with CM ....myself used Nexus 4 ,5 for 4 years...bought OPO 1 month back...
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Oneplus One FTW

Op2, since its the latest and worth the price but opo was the real flagship killer before.
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one plus one inmortal flagship killer