[POLL] HTC Sensor issues! - One (M8) General

Hi Everyone,
My sensors are hosed. The orientation is completely wrong.
See my G+ post here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109078966818501160423/posts/cyiiSkHZrSW
Use SkyMap from Google Play store, point your phone in the general direction where the Sun is currently at.. You should be able to find the Sun in the skymap app. If NOT, you have a messed up sensor just like mine...
If you Do please post your model number so we can see how wide spread this issue is.
Thanks!

Mine seems fine, AT&T version ordered launch day
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Mine is fine, Rogers M8, have device since 19 days now.
Model is M8_UL 0P6B160

Just got my T-Mobile model. FA serial w/build date of 4/5 and it is working fine

Bell version. All is well. OP6B160 model, Canadian.
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Sensors fine here.
German One M8
Model: 0P6B10000

Australian Telstra 2.5GHz version, sensors appear normal.

Dev edition and sensors are fine here.
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AT&T version, works fine.
[email protected] One M8

faux123 said:
Hi Everyone,
My sensors are hosed. The orientation is completely wrong.
See my G+ post here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109078966818501160423/posts/cyiiSkHZrSW
Use SkyMap from Google Play store, point your phone in the general direction where the Sun is currently at.. You should be able to find the Sun in the skymap app. If NOT, you have a messed up sensor just like mine...
If you Do please post your model number so we can see how wide spread this issue is.
Thanks!
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Which version do you have and carrier if its developers edition.. I nearly ordered a dev ed but it wouldn't have worked on my new carrier, Verizon. Mine works great send it back and get a diff one we need you to have a good One =]

Mine's not working either. Unlocked version ordered direct from HTC on ATT.
Wally

Dev edition and sensors are fine

UK unlocked, SH serial. Works great

My Verizon M8 (HTC6526LVW) appears to be screwed: Sky Maps shows the sun in the wrong part of the sky, and compass apps are incorrect as well.
What other information would be helpful?
"Hardware version" of my unit is "0004"
Besides returning the unit, is there any fix for this?
Navigation in Google Maps works perfectly fine, but I assume that's because it's using many more inputs than just the compass.

byrong said:
My Verizon M8 (HTC6526LVW) appears to be screwed: Sky Maps shows the sun in the wrong part of the sky, and compass apps are incorrect as well.
What other information would be helpful?
"Hardware version" of my unit is "0004"
Besides returning the unit, is there any fix for this?
Navigation in Google Maps works perfectly fine, but I assume that's because it's using many more inputs than just the compass.
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Try calibrating the compass by rotating the phone 3 times on all 3 axis.
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Mine is working fine.
Sprint Variant
Amber Gold
HW Version: 0005
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Working fine, picked up at att store on the 8th.

faux123 said:
Hi Everyone,
My sensors are hosed. The orientation is completely wrong.
See my G+ post here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109078966818501160423/posts/cyiiSkHZrSW
Use SkyMap from Google Play store, point your phone in the general direction where the Sun is currently at.. You should be able to find the Sun in the skymap app. If NOT, you have a messed up sensor just like mine...
If you Do please post your model number so we can see how wide spread this issue is.
Thanks!
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The Sensors on my AT&T model are working fine.

Awesom sensor for it.

stuart0001 said:
Try calibrating the compass by rotating the phone 3 times on all 3 axis.
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Thanks. It's funny, because I tried that a couple times before I posted (compass apps give that tip at startup).
After your post, however, I tried again, but this time much faster than before. Now it seems to work just fine.
Guess the problem I was experiencing gets dumped into the user-error pile :silly:

Related

Use google navigation in uk?

Does it work in the UK? Can't see how to use it?
Anyone got it working??
I doubt its running yet as Motorola Milestone still doesn't have it. Having said that, someone has managed to get it working on the Milestone using instructions from this site: http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2009/12/how-to-google-navigation-turn-by-turn.html
I bet you could use the same instructions to get it working on the N1
If google map works anywhere in the world, would'nt this navigation feature be just the same? So, out of the box, it will not work outside US?
Iggy82 said:
I bet you could use the same instructions to get it working on the N1
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I have tried this and it works on the Google Nexus One shipped to the UK. The only problem I have so far is that where | assume it shows the name of the street I am currently on it states "Unnamed Road". Apart from that, it seems to work although I have yet to try it properly as we have a lot of snow about and icy roads! When you zoom in, even the street-view works.
I can't imagine why Google have not enabled it for outside the USA with some sort of "beta" warning.
I have upgraded from a Hero and whilst I miss some of the HTC custom widgets, the Nexus has a beautiful display, the voice recognition is magic and an "official" navigator would be the icing on the cake for me.
apparantly there is some sort of licensing issue - google have an agreement with the people who provide map data in US but have struck the same deal overseas. They said last August that they would work on it...
There is a workaround that works for now (a previous loophole was closed by googles servers), albeit in a more limited capacity

GPS Locking Issue

Does anyone have problems locking to the GPS? GPS Test tells me I have 25 satellites in view but only 3 to 5 are in use. I can never get a good lock in Google Maps. Navigation is pretty much useless. I am testing with a clear view of the sky.
Jerry1130 said:
Does anyone have problems locking to the GPS? GPS Test tells me I have 25 satellites in view but only 3 to 5 are in use. I can never get a good lock in Google Maps. Navigation is pretty much useless. I am testing with a clear view of the sky.
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I had the same problem, but mine was caused by a custom ROM and some xposed mods that didn't play well together. I had to do a factory reset and walk around for a couple minutes for the first lock. Then after that it got a fixed locked every time, really fast.
I do. You're the only person I've seen comment on it other than myself. I was getting pretty convinced that it was just my phone that was weak on GPS. I have to be outside to get a lock most of the time. If it's cloudy I'll only get 8 or 9 out of 17 or so.
I rarely get a lock while in my house, it's hit or miss while in a car, and not at all when in my office. I tried faster fix but that didn't help any. The on'y other phone I've owned that was this weak on GPS was my Galaxy Nexus.
I have also been having this issue. The only thing that seems to help is by enabling the Google location services, for some reason that helps the gps . However it has a negative impact on the battery. At first I though it was the custom rom but I did a full unroot and reset, and the problem persists.
Jerry1130 said:
Does anyone have problems locking to the GPS? GPS Test tells me I have 25 satellites in view but only 3 to 5 are in use. I can never get a good lock in Google Maps. Navigation is pretty much useless. I am testing with a clear view of the sky.
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I'm having the same issue on my d803 at the begging I thought it was a faulty device the one I got because I tried a factory reset and it didn't help. I tested with a Nexus 7 and a Galaxy s4 next to it and they got a lock immediately. After exchanging the phone I still have the same issue. I don't know if it is just software or also hardware related. Hopefully LG will release an update for the issue.
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I'm a plumber. I use my GPS every day. My gps seems weak also. It takes a while to lock on and then its gets confused while I'm using it. I hope we can find a fix.
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afmracer6 said:
I'm a plumber. I use my GPS every day. My gps seems weak also. It takes a while to lock on and then its gets confused while I'm using it. I hope we can find a fix.
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I use GPS regularly. With most phones I have trouble in central London but today for first time I used my g2 and it was perfect and locked quickly
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Had the same issue on the Verizon variant. No matter what I tried to do while on a custom rom I couldn't get a lock in Maps or GPS Test. So I had to restore back to stock. Deleting all my internal storage in the process. Finally was able to get GPS working on this thing. I was about to exchange the device before I did this.
There have been other threads about this in the Q&A section. It seems limited to the Verizon version, but I pretty much experience the same issues as everyone here. Compass is sometimes off by 30 degrees and GPS lock takes a while. I do occasionally get placed on neighboring streets when in a downtown city area as well due to the lock accuracy.
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Ya I'm having big issues too, my phone will say it has my location but have like no satellites, and gps info doesn't say it until i have lik 8+ sattellites and even then sometimes google maps doesn't show a complete lock, though I have gotton that a few times. Half the time though it just takes foerever , and i'm on verizon
Im having problems here as well. I will eventually get a lock, but will get a notification saying GPS signal lost in the middle of navigating with Google Maps. Was trying to figure out if its a Verizon phone issue or I just have a bad GPS antenna...
Same issue here. GPS checker app doesn't help much. Running Malladus. Might factory reset later on. Everytime I check GPS at work I'm several blocks in another direction from my location.
I have also noticed that it has trouble figuring out which way I am heading. Lets say my google maps has me going north, my arrow might be going north but it pointed West. Seems all screwed up.
I had the same issue. Downloaded GPS status from the play store, ran it, and now I get lock in seconds.
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D-meist said:
I had the same issue. Downloaded GPS status from the play store, ran it, and now I get lock in seconds.
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For me, it's not necessarily a lock issue, it's that I will have a lock and then it will tell me gps signal lost.
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Since this seems mostly to be on the Verizon model has anyone compared the GPS.conf file with another to see the differences? Maybe this can be an easy fix.
I called Verizon today about my GPS. They said its a known issue with Verizon lg g2. They said the first batch may have been defective. They are sending me a new one.
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afmracer6 said:
I called Verizon today about my GPS. They said its a known issue with Verizon lg g2. They said the first batch may have been defective. They are sending me a new one.
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I've experienced the same issue with my T-mobile G2. Only way to get a solid GPS lock is to turn on google location services. Even then the lock is "fuzzy" and accuracy is 30-80 feet.
afmracer6 said:
I called Verizon today about my GPS. They said its a known issue with Verizon lg g2. They said the first batch may have been defective. They are sending me a new one.
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Mhmm thats interesting. Keep us updated.
Also curious, how long have you had your G2?
MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Mhmm thats interesting. Keep us updated.
Also curious, how long have you had your G2?
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I got it a couple of days after launch. So a month or so. I'll let you know if the new one is better.
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Moto G Kitkat Review

Those who got the update share your review here
I think american users must be still asleep?
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I'm in the us with a us amazon version and still Haven't received the update. So when I do, sure I'll give a review as well as a flashable version.
Moto Gee :-¢
davwman said:
I'm in the us with a us amazon version and still Haven't received the update. So when I do, sure I'll give a review as well as a flashable version.
Moto Gee :-¢
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0_0. ALL EYES ON YOU 0_0
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As they should be.
Moto Gee :-¢
davwman said:
I'm in the us with a us amazon version and still Haven't received the update. So when I do, sure I'll give a review as well as a flashable version.
Moto Gee :-¢
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i tried the guide which helped you flash the us sw on the EU version of the device, and it worked. I was running the US version for 1 day, tried updating, nothing worked, i kept it for about 26 hrs and no update popped up, i would've pulled the update and uploaded it. Now i returned to the EU version so i can benefit from the update when it rolls our for the EU versions. I can't say i'm disappointed, moto G is an awesome device, cant wait for january
I'll give my impressions once I actually get KitKat. I pre-ordered the US GSM model direct from Motorola, and I live right smack dab in the middle of the USA.....no update yet. =(
Improvements in camera ?
Any improvements in camera in this update ?
bharath78910 said:
Any improvements in camera in this update ?
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I doubt it, good cameras come from using good quality lenses and sensors, motorola skimped in the camera hardware for the price point knowing that most ppl just upload to facebook or ruin with instagram.
bharath78910 said:
Any improvements in camera in this update ?
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The camera is much faster and the pictures seem to come out sharper with better focus.
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just updated
phone seems to be a little bit snappier. but cant really compare yet as i just got the phone today, and updated after unlocking the BL and root. also i think a new addition in the cloud print option. camera is way better than JB (rear)
US - Global GSM
PottsyNZ said:
I doubt it, good cameras come from using good quality lenses and sensors, motorola skimped in the camera hardware for the price point knowing that most ppl just upload to facebook or ruin with instagram.
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The camera is most certainly improved with KitKat. The pictures seems to be much sharper than before.
H
PottsyNZ said:
I doubt it, good cameras come from using good quality lenses and sensors, motorola skimped in the camera hardware for the price point knowing that most ppl just upload to facebook or ruin with instagram.
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Nice try. There is nothing wrong with the camera hardware in this phone. There has been some sort of aggressive software filter that blurred the photos in 4.3 but it is fixed in kitkat. Perhaps you should see for yourself next time.
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Anyone got before-after pictures to compare?
I have a XT1033 and after updating to kitkat I got no SIM signal..
So, got back to 4.3...
Just updated my Moto G, but the Google now command "OK Google" doesn't work from outside Google Now. I have to click on the button first to enter now, and then it works. Wonder if this feature is disabled on Moto G, or if I'm doing something wrong. Was kinda excited to be able to use my phone completely hands-free while driving etc.
endesmus said:
Just updated my Moto G, but the Google now command "OK Google" doesn't work from outside Google Now. I have to click on the button first to enter now, and then it works. Wonder if this feature is disabled on Moto G, or if I'm doing something wrong. Was kinda excited to be able to use my phone completely hands-free while driving etc.
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The always listening feature is Moto X only, unless i dont understand what you are asking for
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endesmus said:
Just updated my Moto G, but the Google now command "OK Google" doesn't work from outside Google Now. I have to click on the button first to enter now, and then it works. Wonder if this feature is disabled on Moto G, or if I'm doing something wrong. Was kinda excited to be able to use my phone completely hands-free while driving etc.
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I believe that if you get the GEL (Google Experience Launcher), it should work.
rogeriorp said:
I believe that if you get the GEL (Google Experience Launcher), it should work.
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Thanks it works now but not when the phone is inactive (black screen). I heard that Moto X can wake up at "OK Google" even when inactive, and I was hoping installing Kitkat would introduce this feature to Moto G, but I suppose I was wrong.
Thanks anyway!
^^that is MOTO X *ONLY* feature known as Touchless controls, which uses special X8 core on soc to always listen from you
However devs will never sit quitely
We have Open Mic+ and Utter!
Try those apps.

[Q] Does Google Cardboard work?

After watching several videos about how awesome this thing is online, I was hooked and totally ready to buy one. However, after reading around, I've noticed some people saying that you can accidentally shut off the screen with the magnet on cardboard. Does anybody own cardboard that can confirm this is in fact an issue? I'm ready to buy this thing, however, that's holding me back. Thanks!
Why would you buy one? There are free plans online to make your own.
thebobmannh said:
Why would you buy one? There are free plans online to make your own.
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I think the OP probably means a kit. I've ordered a kit (ie card template, magnets, nfc tag and lenses) for not much more than the lenses on their own.
With regards to the OP's question, I'll let you know next week as I hope to build it this weekend.
Yes it works wonders on my M8 GPE! No issues whatsoever.
100% of the functionality is there and works correctly
SolarTrans said:
Yes it works wonders on my M8 GPE! No issues whatsoever.
100% of the functionality is there and works correctly
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Can you load in HTC camera photo spheres or does it only work with the ones created by android camera?
If so how?
Thanks!
teylewr said:
Can you load in HTC camera photo spheres or does it only work with the ones created by android camera?
If so how?
Thanks!
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I only have the Google Camera since I have the GPE phone, so I'm not sure.
I have a feeling it will work, though.
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SolarTrans said:
I only have the Google Camera since I have the GPE phone, so I'm not sure.
I have a feeling it will work, though.
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It doesn't seem to recognize them. Ive tried changing the name to match that, and make sure its in the same folder as ones from android camera.
Not sure what its looking for. It loads up any i've taken with android camera fine.
I have some cool ones from htc camera of places ill probably never go again and would love to check them out with this.
teylewr said:
It doesn't seem to recognize them. Ive tried changing the name to match that, and make sure its in the same folder as ones from android camera.
Not sure what its looking for. It loads up any i've taken with android camera fine.
I have some cool ones from htc camera of places ill probably never go again and would love to check them out with this.
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Yeah I did one on a dirt road in the redwood forests of California and it's great to see through Cardboard!
Probably a different format used by the Android camera I'm guessing, so that could be the issue.
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Following up to answer my own question.
Changing the name, and moving the htc camera photo spheres into the same folder as the google ones worked, it just needed to be reloaded.
the name format is PANO_{DATE}_{Image number}.jpg
example PANO_20140718_12345.jpg
teylewr said:
Following up to answer my own question.
Changing the name, and moving the htc camera photo spheres into the same folder as the google ones worked, it just needed to be reloaded.
the name format is PANO_{DATE}_{Image number}.jpg
example PANO_20140718_12345.jpg
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Glad you got it working! It would make sense that the Cardboard app just looked it one folder for the panoramas.
Smart thinking !
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So does the Google Cardboard only work with GPE? I've read that the dotview would come on because of the magnet on the Cardboard. And you have to root the phone to disable it...
DaKyy said:
So does the Google Cardboard only work with GPE? I've read that the dotview would come on because of the magnet on the Cardboard. And you have to root the phone to disable it...
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Yes i too want to know this..there is no video either. Does stock HTC M8 work with google cardboard or does it trigger the htc dot view?
Should work
I don't see why it wouldn't work on stock htc m8.. I had ATT sense with the dot view case, switched to GPE and the dot view case works the same way. Even the same features. So since dot view works with GPE fine and GPE users have confirmed that cardboard works, cardboard should work with sense as well.
Ok thanks for the input..will buy cardboard now
It definitely works on a stock M8.
The magnet doesnt seem to do anything for me. I push it down and release it to select an option in the cardboard app. But it doesnt select anything. Nothing happens. Can someone help?!
Make sure you do it in one quick movement down and back up or it won't make a selection.
Just wanted to say that sincr i updated my GPE M8 to lollipop, the magbetic switch stopped working. Worked 100% perfect before though so i hope there is some update that will fix this.
dannylu0ng said:
Just wanted to say that sincr i updated my GPE M8 to lollipop, the magbetic switch stopped working. Worked 100% perfect before though so i hope there is some update that will fix this.
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Oh really? I didn't get my cardboard until after I updated to 5.0, so I just assumed the magnet switch didn't work on the M8, google even list it as so.
That's interesting then...
Whats even further interesting is that the magbetic switch works with some apps. The hobbit VR experience works with the magnetic switch while others dont

No compass for EU version?

I've been waiting this phone for many months, but now reading through the specs again, I just realized that it seems to only have magnetometer in US. Motorola UK, France, Spain or Germany don't mention this sensor...
Is that correct? Will the EU version not have magnetometer? If so, what a fail... screwed Google Maps
Yes that is correct.
But Navigation will still work.
With car Navigation you wont be having any issues.
Foot Navigation could get tricky because it wont show you the direction arrow.
yzT said:
I've been waiting this phone for many months, but now reading through the specs again, I just realized that it seems to only have magnetometer in US. Motorola UK, France, Spain or Germany don't mention this sensor...
Is that correct? Will the EU version not have magnetometer? If so, what a fail... screwed Google Maps
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Hey, are you going to get the phone from Europe? If so, where do you plan to buy it from? I'm from Europe so I'm looking for a good shop to buy from.
Fobos531 said:
Hey, are you going to get the phone from Europe? If so, where do you plan to buy it from? I'm from Europe so I'm looking for a good shop to buy from.
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honestly... I don't know if I'll get it... I've had compass since my first Android back in 2011, and although I don't use Google Maps so often, when I'm in places I've never been, it's very handy to know where exactly am I and in what direction I am looking at.
anyway, if I finally buy it, it'll be in Amazon.
hi guys !
Well i'm also interested for the g5 plus but the only thing that makes me reconsider it is that it doesn't have a compass, but i wanted to ask is there a possibility that the European includes the compass as a hardware and through a custom rom activate it ?
another option was to buy the us version but i don't know the bands will work in Europe (i checked them and 2 to 3 bands are different for Europe)
best regards !
You should re-consider this phone. I am probably going to return mine. I never checked that spec because I didn't think anyone would design a phone these days without a compass. The nfc is a nice to have but I would gladly trade it for a compass.
I use it quite often with maps for navigation in my car and for playing Ingress and it works very good.
GPS fix is very fast and precise (better than my Xperia Z2) and while driving it always "looks" in the right direction, I never miss on roundabouts for example. Still, while NOT moving it is impossible to know in what direction you're looking, I don't care but for your usage case you will have to use landmarks to see in what direction you're looking (and the sun also helps)
Yup, eliminating compass sensor is a bummer, but still navigation works fine, still having a compass sensor would have been helpful.
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artdog said:
You should re-consider this phone. I am probably going to return mine. I never checked that spec because I didn't think anyone would design a phone these days without a compass. The nfc is a nice to have but I would gladly trade it for a compass.
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They seem to do this with every model now. Why does the Euro phone need NFC but the US phone doesn't. Why does the US phone get a magnometer and the European model doesn't. They even did stuff like that going back to the 2nd gen phones. I don't understand their thinking at all.
To make the phone cheaper to build. Personally I don't care for a compass and I've never used NFC neither.
Knutselmaaster said:
To make the phone cheaper to build. Personally I don't care for a compass and I've never used NFC neither.
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I really don't need either also. I have a Samsung Gear S3 watch that I enabled NFC on and never used it, so I disabled it.
NFC.... that's the main reason I got this phone
What's the reason for my country? Do not have a compass. Maybe looking for another model. At the same price It is not a difficult choice. It's very strange that you do not put a compass on the phone because some countries do not need it, you're wrong.
Why does your country need it?
I'd rather have NFC, i love being able to pay for stuff using my phone, it is really convenient.
Do you know, If compass is necessary for photosphere in Google camera or StreetView to work?
Klen2 said:
Do you know, If compass is necessary for photosphere in Google camera or StreetView to work?
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Gyroscope is needed for photosphere but maps requires compass
Thanks. I thought that maybe it will require compass to get orientation of the photo, although it is not necessary like gyro.
But what do you mean that maps require compass? I already had some devices without it and maps worked, just didn't show direction to North.
Klen2 said:
Thanks. I thought that maybe it will require compass to get orientation of the photo, although it is not necessary like gyro.
But what do you mean that maps require compass? I already had some devices without it and maps worked, just didn't show direction to North.
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Maps will work just fine without compass. Compass will only show the exact direction which the device is facing faster than the e-compass we have does. Still manageable though, isn't it? Infact, I've been using offline navigation for a couple of days now with cached data and using only GPS while driving and I haven't had a bad time with the Maps app ever.
psychopac said:
Maps will work just fine without compass. Compass will only show the exact direction which the device is facing faster than the e-compass we have does. Still manageable though, isn't it? Infact, I've been using offline navigation for a couple of days now with cached data and using only GPS while driving and I haven't had a bad time with the Maps app ever.
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Compass is good if you are outdoor doing tracking or what else. In everyday life this is not a problem. GPS while driving your car works very well, by foot you'll have some issue but after some steps and with more than 3 satellites giving your position you can use GPS even by feet.
By the way IMHO it's so stupid this lack. Can't understand, it's like the led for notifications. You have it but you don't leave users to manage it... Non sense. I bought it just for the great price/quality. Very good specs for almost 200€.

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