My only concern about the shield - Shield General

I am seriously looking forward to the shield but I couldn't care less about the android gaming portion of the device. The only reason I would be buying this is for the streaming option, I already have a i7 920 machine with a gtx 770 gpu (talk about too much gpu for an older CPU) and have my whole house wires with cat5e and wireless n routers/access points. The shield would be my dream come true, I would just take it to any tv in the house and connect it with the hdmi out and basically play my pc games anywhere I want, or if needs be, on the shield screen itself.
Those who are married with kids know exactly why this sort of mobility is why the shield is 100% worth it. My problem? That the shield is a complete flop (it probably will) and nvidia does a dreamcast on us and drops support for it in a few years and no more streaming games.
Any chance o a type of root hack or something that will allow us to stream games nvidia doesn't allow?

kuhne said:
I am seriously looking forward to the shield but I couldn't care less about the android gaming portion of the device. The only reason I would be buying this is for the streaming option, I already have a i7 920 machine with a gtx 770 gpu (talk about too much gpu for an older CPU) and have my whole house wires with cat5e and wireless n routers/access points. The shield would be my dream come true, I would just take it to any tv in the house and connect it with the hdmi out and basically play my pc games anywhere I want, or if needs be, on the shield screen itself.
Those who are married with kids know exactly why this sort of mobility is why the shield is 100% worth it. My problem? That the shield is a complete flop (it probably will) and nvidia does a dreamcast on us and drops support for it in a few years and no more streaming games.
Any chance o a type of root hack or something that will allow us to stream games nvidia doesn't allow?
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Don't even need a root hack. There are already ways around the "supported game list".

agrabren said:
Don't even need a root hack. There are already ways around the "supported game list".
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Oh man, seriously? With functioning gamepad and everything? Talk about good news! Thanks!

kuhne said:
Oh man, seriously? With functioning gamepad and everything? Talk about good news! Thanks!
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Assuming the *game* supports an external gamepad. I tried to get "Rock of Ages" to work, but it doesn't. Of course, I've had multiple times where that game won't work with *the keyboard connected to the system*. It's pretty flaky. But most games support an external controller, and just work.
It's not fake mouse and keyboard events, it's a real controller.

You have your hands on a shield already?

I'm a technical lead for android on it.
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I'm a technical lead for android on it.
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Oh, nice, so you workked on the project officialy with Nvidia or how did that work?
Won't you get into trouble for letting me know we already can get around the allowed games?
I won't take anymore of your time, I just wanted to ask how the overall streaming experience was? With my setup being a i7 920 with a gtx 770 and 12gb of ram and my router being a belkin N router (no A, just N). My idea is to connect the shield with a long hdmi cable to my 60inch lcd and play my computer games there (my computer is in another room altogether)
In a situation like this, will my intentions work? I am very excited for this device for this reason alone!

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Oh, nice, so you workked on the project officialy with Nvidia or how did that work?
Won't you get into trouble for letting me know we already can get around the allowed games?
I won't take anymore of your time, I just wanted to ask how the overall streaming experience was? With my setup being a i7 920 with a gtx 770 and 12gb of ram and my router being a belkin N router (no A, just N). My idea is to connect the shield with a long hdmi cable to my 60inch lcd and play my computer games there (my computer is in another room altogether)
In a situation like this, will my intentions work? I am very excited for this device for this reason alone!
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The weak link in your setup will be the wifi router. I haven't had great luck on the 2.4GHz spectrum, but I also have a noisy 2.4GHz range (many APs nearby, baby monitors, etc)
Outside of that, you, that will work. I wish they had used MHL for the HDMI out, so that you didn't need two cables to be charging and playing, but I don't know if MHL can do 2 amp charging or not. I'm hopeful that Monoprice will start selling their very sexy thin HDMI cables for mini HDMI (I haven't looked lately, so they may already have them), and then it wouldn't be terrible to connect via HDMI video. I think you can use a bluetooth controller with SHIELD, so you could set it on a table as a "dongle" for streaming PC games.
I still work on SHIELD. And I love working on it. One of my responsibilities is to make sure we stay as close to pure AOSP as possible, while supporting product features which AOSP doesn't (try using a controller to navigate the launcher...). That said, NVIDIA doesn't sponsor (or probably condone) my speaking on dev forums, but I'm also careful about what I say. Working around non-supported games was planned ahead of time. Supported games means games we've tested and made sure work smoothly. But you can add any games you'd like to Steam (heck, you can add Microsoft Word to Steam) and they'll show up via "Steam Big Picture" on SHIELD.
You'll notice I don't reply to launch date or "what caused the delay" threads. I do *like* keeping my job. That would be "leaking" information.

Got it I won't ask those questions then.
Just worried about the router thing you mentioned. My fiber op goes directly into a dual band n router but that is in the same room as the computer so using the shield there makes no sense. I have a cat 5e cable going from that router over 150 feet to my home theater room and over there it connects to an older Belkin N router which i have set up as an access point.
That's the room i plan on doing most of my shield gaming streaming from the pc in the other room.
Why would you say this wouldn't work? Cat5e not enough? N router not enough?
What sort of speeds does the shield require?
Also, what you mentioned about setting the shield on a table and connect another controller to it via Bluetooth is just incredible. This means i could connect a wireless keyboard and mouse to it. I'm abit of an old school gamer myself and not that much into game pads when taking about fast reaction in games. Love game pads for rpgs and things like that.
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But you can add any games you'd like to Steam (heck, you can add Microsoft Word to Steam) and they'll show up via "Steam Big Picture" on SHIELD.
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HECK YES! lol i've been wanting to hear words like this for a LONG time.

glitchhawk said:
HECK YES! lol i've been wanting to hear words like this for a LONG time.
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I can't promise apps like Microsoft Word will stream because they aren't full screen... But yes, you aren't restricted to just the handful of games NVIDIA officially supports.
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agrabren said:
I can't promise apps like Microsoft Word will stream because they aren't full screen... But yes, you aren't restricted to just the handful of games NVIDIA officially supports.
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awesome... maybe play some shadowrun for 2006's sake

kuhne said:
Also, what you mentioned about setting the shield on a table and connect another controller to it via Bluetooth is just incredible. This means i could connect a wireless keyboard and mouse to it. I'm abit of an old school gamer myself and not that much into game pads when taking about fast reaction in games. Love game pads for rpgs and things like that.
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You could probably attach any keyboard and mouse to it through the usb on the back if you get a USB-OTG to full size USB adapter/hub. I'm not 100% sure the shield supports it yet but I would be surprised if it didn't.

emusan said:
You could probably attach any keyboard and mouse to it through the usb on the back if you get a USB-OTG to full size USB adapter/hub. I'm not 100% sure the shield supports it yet but I would be surprised if it didn't.
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You are right. And with the steam big picture thing commented before. The shield at 299 seems to be going from bargain to 'wtf are you kidding" device of the year.
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I know it supports OTG, as well as keyboard and mouse. Haven't tried those while streaming a game though...
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I know it supports OTG, as well as keyboard and mouse. Haven't tried those while streaming a game though...
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I'm just curious if it be possible to save games to the sdcard instead? Or would we have to root and use application like foldermount etc

MrPhilo said:
I'm just curious if it be possible to save games to the sdcard instead? Or would we have to root and use application like foldermount etc
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I have no idea. I haven't really looked at what sdcard support it has. Just that it has an sdcard jack.

Any plans for any multiplayer games on steam to be supported on the shield. Ex: team fortress, Cod bo2, battlefield...
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Also works if you have a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and that would save you from having to use the USB-OTG to hub.
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J.Guido85 said:
Any plans for any multiplayer games on steam to be supported on the shield. Ex: team fortress, Cod bo2, battlefield...
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given the information agrabren has given us buddy any game with controller support should work.

Related

Play Games With Your Ps3 Controller

Sixaxis Controller is an Android application which allows the Sixaxis and DualShock 3 Playstation controllers to be used as bluetooth input devices on many mobile phones and tablets. This enables the ultimate gaming experience to be had in a completely portable form factor.
Up to four controllers are supported at once, and key mappings are completely configurable, as well as the analog sticks, which are currently emulated as digital key presses.
https://market.android.com/details?...sixaxiscontroller&feature=more_from_developer
this is good, but what games can this play on the XPlay?
I bought a phone with a playstation controller, so why would i want to use another
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I could think of one game where the experience would be greater, medal of honor wich also uses the R/L 2 buttons wich I've maped to the volume button. Not so handy nor fast
It would have been the bomb if SE had made tv out or hdmi
Regards Dousan...
It's great for other android users but I don't see myself getting my x10 out with a ds3 controller in public while waiting for my train or sitting my ride out haha.
Glad I got the play aswell
It's a nice app though
Defeats the purpose of mobile gaming though... Who is going to bring a controller out with them lmao. Mind as well play emulators on bigger monitor screen at home...
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Deoxlar said:
Defeats the purpose of mobile gaming though... Who is going to bring a controller out with them lmao. Mind as well play emulators on bigger monitor screen at home...
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That could be the final idea.
Think about transmitting your screen to another via WLAN or whatever and then just grabbing the nearest controler - pairing - gaming extreme.
HearthC0re said:
That could be the final idea.
Think about transmitting your screen to another via WLAN or whatever and then just grabbing the nearest controler - pairing - gaming extreme.
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If I put it to my big screen, isn't the resolution too small to make it look good? It would be blurry wouldn't it?
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As much as I love my Play as well would totally bring my ps3 w/ ds3 with me everywhere. I usually have a backpack at all times (Im weird like that) the controller is very light, kinda small and making an equally light-weight mount is fairly strait forward, and even if I never use it outside the house it's a very convenient portable N64 or PS1. And I have both of those too!
And there goes productivity...
Deoxlar said:
If I put it to my big screen, isn't the resolution too small to make it look good? It would be blurry wouldn't it?
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nope after the live dock from SE comes out Xplay will have HDMI connectivity then this will come in handy
Live dock only supports hdmi capable phones.
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Live dock only supports hdmi capable phones.
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From all reports the play is HDMI capable, it just has no HDMI port lol
heard that it uses usb to connect to HDMI so its basically a usb to hdmi converter lets say.
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From all reports the play is HDMI capable, it just has no HDMI port lol
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There was a developer unit at E3 with HDMI out

Finally Solution to HDMI port (CES 12)

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
Sometimes, the simplest ideas are the best ones, and Analogix Slim Port technology certainly qualifies as both. It's a cabling solution that allows you to mirror what's on your phone or tablet's screen to your TV via microUSB -- instead of needing an extra HDMI or MHL port. Analogix's secret sauce is on a chip embedded in the jack portion of the cable and because it's based on DisplayPort technology, it can connect using HDMI, VGA, or DVI connections. Of course, as an OEM, Analogix won't be selling the cables when they go on sale this summer, but retailers like Belkin and BizLink will probably be put one in your bag for around $20 or $30 bucks.
-engadget
So now we can connect our beloved Play to that TV XD
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
ff7fan4eva said:
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
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i dont get you guys it clearly says it uses the MICRO USB port on the mobile device i mean how much more clearer need it be regardless ive sent an email to analogix and will tell u guys what they say
Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
Do you think that TV out is just going to magicly work when you plug in USB LOL
FYI your usb port is never outputting video lol. you would have to run some type of program to do it and that will use CPU power
When have you ever plugged usb into your PC and a message comes up "Would you like to mirror image on your screen?"
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
Hogwarts said:
I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
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check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
A bit off topic, but I don't think I ever posted this while I was analyzing the play for HDMI.
According to the kernel, the Dev plays have this chipset and all Plays have the drivers for it: http://www.analog.com/en/audiovideo-products/analoghdmidvi-interfaces/adv7520/products/product.html
And this can be seen on the Dell Streak: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Dell-Streak-Teardown/3512/2
Now, I tore apart my Play (when I had it), and I can confirm that that chip is NOT on my retail r800i. This means that there is no "hidden" port or some unfilled solderpads that can be used to attach a microhdmi. There is NO support on the retail motherboard for it. You can't even buy the ADV7520 chip because there are no space on the retail motherboard for it.
There's no chip or hdmi port on the play I've watched dissasemblies of all types r800a,x,I
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There is a solution where you connect to a bluetooth HDMI dongle using your bluetooth and its specific app to stream phone content onto the screen, I think it was mentioned on Engadget but I cannot seem to find the link for it.
Logseman said:
check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
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so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
Hogwarts said:
so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
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I don't have a theory, as I don't care one bit about TV output of any kind. However, you mentioned that the PSP wasn't powerful enough to beam out content, which is not a problem in the Xperia Play (or Arc and Neo for that matter).
Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
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Pretty sure it didn't
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AndroHero said:
Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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FINALLY someone bothers to actually read the goddamed article
So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
HearthC0re said:
So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
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The adapter is probably accompanied with an app. Although the app would need root acces, atleast I think so.
whilst i think this would be an awesome piece of kit if it works as intended, im a little curious as to how it actually works, afaik the cpu sends its work to the gpu for output, the gpu processes it, and outputs it to the display....so how exactly does the usb port get the information from gpu...maybe easy with root access on one device...but making it work on a wide range of devices would be crazy hard.
im not gonna straight up bash this, because they have said its a vendor agnostic solution, so im assuming they have worked out some technical magic with no downsides to pull this off. I'm all for being proved wrong, i just want to see it in action.
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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First statement is a bit overstated.
By capability the gpu in the PSP has a fillrate of 30 million polygons/s
I believe our Adreno has 52 mil/s
Plus instead of the capability I believe it was the limitation of USB speeds that affected the computer mirroring software.
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Best Game Out for GS3 - Dead Trigger

Downloaded this yesterday and turned the graphics to high and wow! This is a new game but man is it fun! If you love Zombies + FPS this is the game for you. Grab it form the app store only $0.99c
it's not bad...best part was i was able to hook up my ps3 controller with an otg cable and use that to play
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it's not bad...best part was i was able to hook up my ps3 controller with an otg cable and use that to play
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Yeah you can use PS3/XBOX360. I think the game is pretty sweet. I'm still waiting for them to fix Nova 3 for the GS3. Otherwise I've been playing this, ME Infiltration, Homerun Battle 2, etc..
Have any of you gotten Dead Space to work? On mine it just exists after choosing difficulty.
Chicago281 said:
Yeah you can use PS3/XBOX360. I think the game is pretty sweet. I'm still waiting for them to fix Nova 3 for the GS3. Otherwise I've been playing this, ME Infiltration, Homerun Battle 2, etc..
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What's a otg cable?
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ootz0rz said:
it's not bad...best part was i was able to hook up my ps3 controller with an otg cable and use that to play
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Where'd you get your cable
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PatrickHuey said:
What's a otg cable?
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usb host cable or "on-the-go" cable.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GGBYJ4/
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usb host cable or "on-the-go" cable.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GGBYJ4/
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Gonna have to grab one of those asap
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So I'm getting just about 1% battery drop per minute of ANY (decent) game play. Is that about right? Seems like a LOT to me...
Also:
I agree Dead Trigger is a good game albeit a simple FPS. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like they super dumb down FPS's for phones because they're expecting it to be difficult to use the screen as a controller.
Maybe they do this rightfully so, but if you use a PS3 controller, suddenly all the FPS games are rudimentary and have no depth or challenge. (they all also run too slow when you have the ability to zoom around the screen with a joystick)
How the heck do you hook up an xbox controller?
1% sounds about right considering such a small battery in comparison to like the Vita.
kronium said:
How the heck do you hook up an xbox controller?
1% sounds about right considering such a small battery in comparison to like the Vita.
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I have yet to do it but my buddy has. The controller connects to the phone via Bluetooth. I think you have to be rooted though I'm not sure.
Is $8.99 too much for one of these cables?
bigant262 said:
Is $8.99 too much for one of these cables?
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Yes. If all otg cables are created equal, I got a good seller on eBay who sells them for like 3.50 a piece and they work great on my xoom. As a matter of fact I lost my last one and am waiting for a new nor in the mail now. I can produce u a link if Ud like.
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How the heck do you hook up an xbox controller?
1% sounds about right considering such a small battery in comparison to like the Vita.
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OTG cable is all that you need, it allows the phone to work in USB host mode so you can connect just about any USB device to the phone
For maximum flexibility, I recommend https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.poke64738.usbjoy which is an interface program for USB game controllers which allows you to map ANY usb controller to any key you want. I use this on my Kindle Fire for all the NES/SNES/Etc emulators. It should also work with the bluetooth based controllers. One thing that kind of sucks is that a lot of games are designed from the ground up for touch screen controllers so there is no provision to even change the input device
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How the heck do you hook up an xbox controller?
1% sounds about right considering such a small battery in comparison to like the Vita.
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It's really not very difficult. To connect via bluetooth (which in my opinion is far superior to ugly and annoying wires) you will most likely need root.
I prefer the PS3 controller and this is the app I use: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...5ncGl4ZWxzdHVkaW9zLnNpeGF4aXNjb250cm9sbGVyIl0.
A year ago, connecting a wiimote was like 'WOAH!' now, It's almost expected. This is nothing new, and I'm really confused at why there aren't third party controllers for phones. The first good controller (or PS3/xbox copy) could become a standard to which all games are modeled upon. Game makers could even charge like $30 for a big title game and send you a controller for your troubles.
Unfortunately, as altitude909 said above, most every game these days is made with the idea that you'll be using on-screen controls. So they either do some funny things to make it easier to use the screen which doesn't translate into a controller, or they dumb down the gameplay so that it's just too easy with a controller.
Mass Effect is probably the best game graphically and gameplay wise on the US version Galaxy S3 currently. No matter how hard I try, that game just cannot translate into a controller. Because the nature of Mass Effect being a third person life action but turn based shooter, they tried to incorporate that unique gameplay into a phone, which actually works well with on screen controls, but could be so much more enjoyable if you could use a controller. Problem is that the game requires the player to tap on enemies to aim, and also slide around to use various powers...
Can an otg cable and 360 controller work with games, like emulators, without having root?
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Chicago281 said:
Downloaded this yesterday and turned the graphics to high and wow! This is a new game but man is it fun! If you love Zombies + FPS this is the game for you. Grab it form the app store only $0.99c
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Nice find I'm liking it.
sswb27 said:
Nice find I'm liking it.
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Me too man I'm addicted. Level 10 now didn't get a chance to play all day :\
eatkabab said:
A year ago, connecting a wiimote was like 'WOAH!' now, It's almost expected. This is nothing new, and I'm really confused at why there aren't third party controllers for phones.
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Have you seen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aX80oHqlh6Y#!
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Android/Gametel+wireless+game+controller/news.asp?c=35266
I've been waiting for it to release in the US or a controller that is similar...
Still confused, as I thought that the 360 controller does not work via bluetooth and lacks a usb interface. Am I wrong? I've got the PS3 controller working via bluetooth no problem.

Amazon FireTV

I wanted to start a thread discussing Amazon's new FireTV and removing Amazon's custom ROM and using AOSP.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CX5P8FC
A great piece of hardware.
Size 4.5" x 4.5" x 0.7" (115 mm x 115 mm x 17.5 mm)​Weight9.9 oz (281 grams)​SOC PlatformQualcomm Snapdragon 8064​ProcessorQualcomm Krait 300, quad-core to 1.7 Ghz​GPU Qualcomm Adreno 320​Storage 8 GB internal​Memory 2 GB LPDDR2 @ 533 MHZ​Wi-Fi ConnectivityDual-band, dual-antenna Wi-Fi (MIMO) for faster streaming and fewer dropped connections than standard Wi-Fi. Supports public and private Wi-Fi networks that use the 802.11a/b/g/n standard with support for WEP, WPA and WPA2 security using password authentication​Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.0 with support for the following profiles: HID, HFP 1.6, SPP​Ports 5.5 mm DC Jack
Type A HDMI 1.4b output, w/HDCP
Optical Audio (TOSLINK)
10/100 Ethernet
USB 2.0 Type A​
AudioSupport for Dolby Digital Plus, 5.1 surround sound, 2ch Stereo and HDMI audio pass through up to 7.1​
Output Resolution Supported 720p and 1080p up to 60fps​
I have one on order and will be here tomorrow. 04/03/14
Seems pretty sweet. Root + ROMs even better.
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MicroMod777 said:
Seems pretty sweet. Root + ROMs even better.
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Agreed... I am not a developer any longer and do not have ties to get it moving... I guess this will be a waiting game... When we can see root & ROM
No gigabit Ethernet? For a streaming device that you install and never move again until its obsolete? Some of the product decisions these companies make are interesting.
Also, no IR=no integration. I know everyone here is focused on hacking it, but say you do get XBMC running on it smoothly? No universal remote or control system capability?
I tired to resist Apple and got a Roku 3. Dinking around with a second remote and the lack of Netflix profiles sent me over to the dark side.
Kind of not feeling this. The processor is nice, but all the things you are talking about can be done out of the box with something like a G-Box Midnight MX2.
Sorry to be Debby Downer.
brizey said:
No gigabit Ethernet? For a streaming device that you install and never move again until its obsolete? Some of the product decisions these companies make are interesting.
Also, no IR=no integration. I know everyone here is focused on hacking it, but say you do get XBMC running on it smoothly? No universal remote or control system capability?
I tired to resist Apple and got a Roku 3. Dinking around with a second remote and the lack of Netflix profiles sent me over to the dark side.
Kind of not feeling this. The processor is nice, but all the things you are talking about can be done out of the box with something like a G-Box Midnight MX2.
Sorry to be Debby Downer.
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This remote I have been using for years and work just perfect with my XBMC
http://www.amazon.com/Ortek-Windows...3171&sr=8-9&keywords=remote+control+microsoft
Cost next to nothing with a USB IR receiver.
Got my Fire TV today, can't wait for the hacking community to get in on this one. Looks like its got lots of potential, especially in the retro/emulation arena with the optional remote.
A USB keyboard works great, but the generic WMC ir receiver didn't. So that quick, cheap "hack" didn't pan out.
IR is really irrelevant.. I dont use it.. Bluetooth is all we need!
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travisnj said:
IR is really irrelevant.. I dont use it.. Bluetooth is all we need!
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It's not only because you don't use that it means irrelevant. A lot of people have good IR remotes like the Logitech one...
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It's not only because you don't use that it means irrelevant. A lot of people have good IR remotes like the Logitech one...
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Agreed.. My logic and reason is IR is minimally 20yrs old tech that's all but obsolete. IMO...
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Anyone interested in Rooting Amazon FireTV...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703716
brizey said:
No gigabit Ethernet? For a streaming device that you install and never move again until its obsolete? Some of the product decisions these companies make are interesting.
Also, no IR=no integration. I know everyone here is focused on hacking it, but say you do get XBMC running on it smoothly? No universal remote or control system capability?
I tired to resist Apple and got a Roku 3. Dinking around with a second remote and the lack of Netflix profiles sent me over to the dark side.
Kind of not feeling this. The processor is nice, but all the things you are talking about can be done out of the box with something like a G-Box Midnight MX2.
Sorry to be Debby Downer.
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Why would you ever need gigabit ethernet for a streaming box? Even a direct play blu-ray tops out around 40Mb...there is absolutely no need for gigabit.
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Why would you ever need gigabit ethernet for a streaming box? Even a direct play blu-ray tops out around 40Mb...there is absolutely no need for gigabit.
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no one needs 10/100/1000 but is it very handy when it comes to transfering files over a gigabit network. Also what does it hurt since gigabit has been out for years. Ouya/ Mojo/ Fire tv all have fastethernet and its annoying that they didnt put gigabit mostly because my whole network is 10/100/1000 and i hate bottlenecks.
i see your point though
mejdam said:
no one needs 10/100/1000 but is it very handy when it comes to transfering files over a gigabit network. Also what does it hurt since gigabit has been out for years. Ouya/ Mojo/ Fire tv all have fastethernet and its annoying that they didnt put gigabit mostly because my whole network is 10/100/1000 and i hate bottlenecks.
i see your point though
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I'm all for fast networks, all our computers at home have one or more solid state drives so even gigabit is not enough at this point. I get why didn't they put it on the FireTV but maybe the hardware inside couldn't talk to the port at 100MB/s anyway so it might not be that these boxes couldn't have Gethernet but that if they did install it your actual throughput might be crap anyway.
Nice that we have a forum/section for this device.
More 2.0 USB ports (no need for a HUB) and Gigabit Ethernet would have definitely made it more desirable.
USB 3.0 will probably come with next year's qualcomm CPUs.
The biggest thing that I'm looking forward to is AOSP ROMs, and the bootloader hacks to install it.
sluflyer06 said:
Why would you ever need gigabit ethernet for a streaming box? Even a direct play blu-ray tops out around 40Mb...there is absolutely no need for gigabit.
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mejdam said:
no one needs 10/100/1000 but is it very handy when it comes to transfering files over a gigabit network. Also what does it hurt since gigabit has been out for years. Ouya/ Mojo/ Fire tv all have fastethernet and its annoying that they didnt put gigabit mostly because my whole network is 10/100/1000 and i hate bottlenecks.
i see your point though
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sluflyer06 said:
I'm all for fast networks, all our computers at home have one or more solid state drives so even gigabit is not enough at this point. I get why didn't they put it on the FireTV but maybe the hardware inside couldn't talk to the port at 100MB/s anyway so it might not be that these boxes couldn't have Gethernet but that if they did install it your actual throughput might be crap anyway.
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Lol, looks like others jumped in before I got here. For me, it is mostly about downloading to attached storage quickly. Plus, why not? Annoying to leave out a $2 part to make the magic $99 price point.
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*A little bit of topic*
This remote I have been using for years and work just perfect with my XBMC
http://www.amazon.com/Ortek-Windows...3171&sr=8-9&keywords=remote+control+microsoft
Cost next to nothing with a USB IR receiver.
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travisnj said:
IR is really irrelevant.. I dont use it.. Bluetooth is all we need!
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SkzBR said:
It's not only because you don't use that it means irrelevant. A lot of people have good IR remotes like the Logitech one...
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Agreed.. My logic and reason is IR is minimally 20yrs old tech that's all but obsolete. IMO...
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It is only sort of obsolete. The thing is, it is the only pretty much universal control platform for AV gear. With a few exceptions like this and the Roku 3, pretty much every AV component has an IR in.
I don't have a Logitech, I have an old URC MX-880 with an RF base station. All my gear is in built-in cabinets in what was supposed to be the media niche in my family room. I have a custom built low profile fireplace mantle, and our firebox is sitting on the slab. This allowed us to mount the TV above the fireplace at a more reasonable height, and more importantly, in the center of the room. The only wires showing are the sub cable and its power cable, and even those just barely. The surround speakers are all in-ceiling ( our family room has almost no wall space...its all open to the kitchen, foyer, bedroom hallway, and windows). So the RF remote kicks butt. The Logitech remotes are nice (wish URC had as many IR codes), but they are not as flexible as a URC, even something as low-end for them as an old MX-880. I used to be in the business, so I have CCP, etc. and can program it myself.
I am not willing to give all that up for a $99 box when I have another $99 box that works with it. Plus, she-who-decides wants one f%$ing remote.
Heh, still better than an X-Box One, lol. (Google "longer cable for Kinect" if you like to read rage.)

[Q] use tablet screen for multi purpose use?

OK yes its been asked before but I can't find any threads about this topic that don't date back to 2011. Let's say I'm feeling nostalgic and want to use my tablet as a screen for let's say a GameCube? Is there a way? No it doesn't have to be wireless, USB dongles will due, but is there some type of app for this scenario?
Not that I know. But there are emulators. So maybe there is a gamecube emulator.
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You could hook that up to a PC and use something like teamviewer online on your tablet. So you are controlling your PC which plays the game all from your tablet.
beefsmith said:
OK yes its been asked before but I can't find any threads about this topic that don't date back to 2011. Let's say I'm feeling nostalgic and want to use my tablet as a screen for let's say a GameCube? Is there a way? No it doesn't have to be wireless, USB dongles will due, but is there some type of app for this scenario?
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Using an emulator and a remote screen solution would be absolutely horrendous for this purpose... latency issues everywhere (screen lag, ghosting, lack of sync between input and graphics...).
You will need an upscaler for this. Something that either takes component video input or composite and then outputs to HDMI.
Unfortunately the Nexus 10 port is output only. There are HDMI capable DIY panels you may want to check (Adafruit carries some... Alibaba might be a cheaper alternative). Other than that, there's no way.

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