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HTC Desire's DLNA function

DLNA.
This function is new to me but not for the rest of the high tech world. I know
nobody yet have used this function on a DHD, but SGS users maybe know what to
expect. This thread mainly is gonna be about the functionality of the DLNA
function in the DHD.
- Suggestions on what TV/LCD/LED to get.
- Is the wireless streeming seemless.
- What options to change in the TV to get the function to work.
These and many more questions can be asked about DLNA.
This topic mainly is cuz i am going to buy that phone and any input is superb welcome, but this topic, yet has not been seen in the DHD General section.
Please, reply on what do you suggest and how do you se yourself using this function
on a daily bases.
Best regards
mark wild

I think (hope) the wireless streaming is seamless if not htc should've scrapped the plans and gone for a hdmi

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MacaronyMax said:
I think (hope) the wireless streaming is seamless if not htc should've scrapped the plans and gone for a hdmi
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True to that. I do hope so to. Any information how it all works.

i have a ps3 hooked up to my hdtv. apparently the ps3 supports DLNA so im looking forward to testing it out when i get the DHD.

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SupremeBeaver said:
i have a ps3 hooked up to my hdtv. apparently the ps3 supports DLNA so im looking forward to testing it out when i get the DHD.
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What do you expect from hooking the phone up with your PS3??

mark wild said:
What do you expect from hooking the phone up with your PS3??
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true love lol

If you have a PS3 connected to your home network, then you connect your SGS/DHD to your home network via WiFi and turn on the DLNA app.
You'll see your SGS/DHD appear in the Video and Music menus of the XMB (you may have to scan for media servers on the PS3). Then you can browse the media folders on your SGS/DHD using the XMB.
Select a file, and it'll start playing on your TV. Simple.
That's how it works on my old Omnia II. Can't imagine it'll be any different with current handsets.

sub69 said:
If you have a PS3 connected to your home network, then you connect your SGS/DHD to your home network via WiFi and turn on the DLNA app.
You'll see your SGS/DHD appear in the Video and Music menus of the XMB (you may have to scan for media servers on the PS3). Then you can browse the media folders on your SGS/DHD using the XMB.
Select a file, and it'll start playing on your TV. Simple.
That's how it works on my old Omnia II. Can't imagine it'll be any different with current handsets.
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yeah ur right. but i've been wondering, will the format of videos have to be supported by both the DHD and the PS3? Does the ps3 actually decode the video file, or is that done on the DHD and simply streamed to the ps3?
for example, if i have an .avi file that works on my Desire hd, but assume this file type doesnt work on the ps3 natively, will it still be able to stream it?

This is a question that I'm very interested in finding out the answer too actually.
As I understand it, the advertised feature is that I can stream content (pictures, videos. music) to a DLNA device to display on my TV.
In my case, I have a PS3 and an Xbox360 which I assume will recognise my Desire HD and playback the content I have on it, which is fine.
I use my Xbox360 to play back content from my computer (which I believe is DLNA as well), so I am wondering if I can use my Desire HD to play back stuff from other devices. If so, then I can watch all my movies and listen to all my music via DLNA on my phone...
I really badly hope that this will work - MAJOR selling point for me!

SupremeBeaver said:
...if i have an .avi file that works on my Desire hd, but assume this file type doesnt work on the ps3 natively, will it still be able to stream it?
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The format of the video has to be supported by the PS3.
That used to be a problem with early PS3 Firmwares, but DivX/Xvid are natively supported by the PS3 these days...

dazultra2000 said:
I am wondering if I can use my Desire HD to play back stuff from other devices. If so, then I can watch all my movies and listen to all my music via DLNA on my phone...
I really badly hope that this will work - MAJOR selling point for me!
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Well, again, the DLNA app on the Omnia II allowed this, so I see no reason why this wouldn't work on the newer handsets.
Incidentally, if you connect to your home network via WiFi and use a File Manager that allows you to browse the local network (EStrongs File Explorer, for instance) - then you should be able to just share your PC's media folder and watch avi and mp3 files by browsing to them and opening them on your device. No DLNA needed.

sub69 said:
The format of the video has to be supported by the PS3.
That used to be a problem with early PS3 Firmwares, but DivX/Xvid are natively supported by the PS3 these days...
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ah ok i see. but if i were to reverse things and try to stream a video which works on the ps3, but not on the DHD itself, would this work?

SupremeBeaver said:
ah ok i see. but if i were to reverse things and try to stream a video which works on the ps3, but not on the DHD itself, would this work?
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There's no conversion done at all by either the PS3 or the DHD, DLNA is literally just a transport method, so you need to be streaming a file that is compatible on the receiving device. There are good media players available on Android to cover most filetypes though.
Of course, if you're trying to stream 1080p mkv files to your DHD, then you might struggle...

sub69 said:
Well, again, the DLNA app on the Omnia II allowed this, so I see no reason why this wouldn't work on the newer handsets.
Incidentally, if you connect to your home network via WiFi and use a File Manager that allows you to browse the local network (EStrongs File Explorer, for instance) - then you should be able to just share your PC's media folder and watch avi and mp3 files by browsing to them and opening them on your device. No DLNA needed.
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Useful to know! Thanks for that.

or just get one of these: http://www.expansys.com/hisense-108...our-downloaded-films-on-your-tv-in-hd-186127/
hisense has dlna and is brilliant bit of kit. youd just need a gaming relay wifi station / repeater or similar.
a wifi usb dongle should work too
bit cheaper here: http://www.redstore.com/HISSDC001

I have been using DLNA for a good few months now with both my Samsung GS & Acer Laptop which has DLNA onboard for streaming to my Samsung LED TV and find it worthwhile for both Music & Photo's. However, for Video you have to watch (pun not intended) what you are going to stream.
Any video file that has heavy encoding will make the buffer stream work overtime and often freeze or judder on the TV.
.MKV files are quite prone to this but DivX and MP4 files play quite well.
Even the phone's own camera if recorded at 720p will test your TV as it struggles to receive the data smoothly.
The first thing you will need to pick up the DLNA content from your phone is a media hub. This can either be a Laptop with DLNA, a PS3, or if you are lucky to have one of the recent LCD/LED TV's with DLNA built in you can stream the content direct to your TV.
In my setup I have a Samsung LED TV which is connected by Ethernet to my Router.
Whenever I want to stream data from the phone to the TV the first thing to do is on the phone run the DLNA App (on the SGS it is called AllShare).
P.S. There are other third-party DLNA titles available such as iMediashare Mobile and Twonky Mobile which will do the same job.
The next step is on the TV Remote use the 'Source' button and change it until you see on the TV your phone's name (mine again says Samsung Galaxy S).
Once you have selected the phone the TV's screen will now change to a Media Hub and give a menu system where you can then select Photo's, Music or Video.
Providing on your phone's DLNA App you have chosen to stream specific files these same files will then be available for displaying on your TV.
To control the content on your TV simply use the TV's Remote and Play/Pause/Stop/Back for previous/Fwd for next/etc.
At present we don't know anything on the App that will be on the DHD so it's going to be guesswork in exactly how data is selected for streaming.
Hope this helps.
Beards

One question, you seem to know about this stuff, is the DLNA menu in the TV different to every different DLNA application, or is the menu already in the TV itself?

HTC Made DLNA adapter
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Details and Images
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jkoljo said:
...is the DLNA menu in the TV different to every different DLNA application, or is the menu already in the TV itself?
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Each DLNA receiver has it's own menu for browsing DLNA media that it has discovered. The menu is part of the software in the TV, PS3, XBox, HTC receiver, etc...
DLNA is a standard for the transmission and discovery of media, but once that connection has been made, you can stream/send all sorts - DivX, Mkv, WMV, Avi, MP3, Wav, Jpg, Bmp, etc, etc.
The receiving device will have it's own software, with it's own menu, and it's own supported filetypes and codecs.
If you have a DLNA TV, it may only be able to play DivX and MP3. Or maybe Mkv and Wav. It's up to the manufacturer and the software they've loaded...

jkoljo said:
One question, you seem to know about this stuff, is the DLNA menu in the TV different to every different DLNA application, or is the menu already in the TV itself?
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The menu you see on the TV is what is built in on the TV.
So it does not matter what software you use on the phone it will always be the same on the TV.
As an example ~ Both my Laptop (which also transmit media data) & Phone show exactly the same menu on the TV.

Configure IPTV on your FIre TV and watch Live TV

The Free Trial Ended for NFPS on July 15th if you want to continue getting NFPS then make sure you are running KODI 15 RC2 or above and go here since they focus mostly on NFPS and Rocket private access
For those who arent aware you can watch live tv from a number of locations using something called IPTV, now normally this requires an IPTV Receiver (mag250, mag254 and avov) but using your current android device (yes this works for all the android boxes i have) and an application called STB Emulator you can achieve same service without needing to purchase additonal hardware.
Three methods to connect to IPTV Server
Method #1
Using STB Emulator it emulates the tv interface of a mag250 box.
Pros: Allows you to connect multiple iptv servers, Video on Demand works and you're able to view password protected channels (adult channels, If you have a paid iptv server this method might be the only method that works.
1. Download STB Emulator 0.5.22
Thanks to Psycon for STB Emulator Ver 0.6.01
2. If you want the ability to preview the channel before making it full screen use the VLC plugin method, Even though in my experience this crashes more often. Use External Player with MX PLayer for best results
If you want to choose external player download and install MX Player
If you use VLC plugin for media playback make sure to install VLC.
3. Follow my youtube video
4. I know in the video i said tv_ssytem_res for the resolution but choose 1280x720 so everything displays correctly on the Fire TV
Snapshot of STB Emulator working on the CURRENTLY free IPTV Test Servers
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
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"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
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"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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Method #2
Main Thread of addon http://iptvtalk.org/showthread.php?1015-stalker-client-pvr-add-on
Pros: You dont need MX player since it uses KODI built-in player
1. Download pvr.stalker.client-android-arm-0.5.zip
2. Enable Live TV (Settings - Live TV - General - Enable)
3. Enabel Stalker Client PVR Addon and configure a MAC address
4. Restart Kodi and a TV option will appear
Method #3
Main Thread of addon http://iptvtalk.org/showthread.php?2514-stalker-any-plataform
Pros: Runs on older version of XBMC and KODI, Method #2 doesnt work on XBMC 13.2
1 - Download
2 - Open the Kodi
3 - Add-on -> Install from zip
4 - Go to config and set up what you want
5 - enjoy
Features
- Up to 3 Portals
- Force Clear Cache (Context menu on each portal)
- Channel groups
- Channel logos
- Parental lock (Default password 0000)
- VoD
STB Emulator working on a another service
STB Emulator working on a mexican service

Got it all setup, shows channels, but no channel ever plays, just keeps spinning like it's loading, but never does...

shollywood said:
Got it all setup, shows channels, but no channel ever plays, just keeps spinning like it's loading, but never does...
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Yep, looks like they are adding more channels. Try again in a couple of hours. It was working great earlier today. I'll take some video later today or tomorrow showing IPTV working on different paid servers.
Instead of TV if you go right and select videoclips you can watch their VOD service which is currently up.

mejdam said:
Yep, looks like they are adding more channels. Try again in a couple of hours. It was working great earlier today. I'll take some video later today or tomorrow showing IPTV working on different paid servers.
Instead of TV if you go right and select videoclips you can watch their VOD service which is currently up.
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Thanks for the tut, but I don't see any option for ext. player?

ssy080 said:
Thanks for the tut, but I don't see any option for ext. player?
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if you have stb emulator 0.5.18:
Press the Menu key on the Fire Remote - Mediaplayer - select VLC Multimedia plugin
if you have stb emulator 0.5.19 (newest version)
Press the Menu key on the Fire Remote - Mediaplayer - select External Player. Exit app and when you come back in it'll tryt to play a video and ask you what player you wish to use. Select MX Player

mejdam said:
if you have stb emulator 0.5.18:
Press the Menu key on the Fire Remote - Mediaplayer - select VLC Multimedia plugin
if you have stb emulator 0.5.19 (newest version)
Press the Menu key on the Fire Remote - Mediaplayer - select External Player. Exit app and when you come back in it'll tryt to play a video and ask you what player you wish to use. Select MX Player
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Oh! Didn't realize it was a physical button you pressed! thanks

Works great. the server is indeed not showing any live channels at the moment. they are replacing some hardware so it will be back up. VOD content still works though..
thanks for the share, I stopped following FTA and had no idea they are trying to move into the IPTV realm.

psycon said:
Works great. the server is indeed not showing any live channels at the moment. they are replacing some hardware so it will be back up. VOD content still works though..
thanks for the share, I stopped following FTA and had no idea they are trying to move into the IPTV realm.
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Thats exactly what happened.
1. First DirectTV cards were getting unlocked.
2. Dish Networks Nagravision 2 card was completely dumped than hacked into FTA boxes (This required people setting up Satellite Dishes)
3. Dish Network Moved to Nagravision 3 which forced people to switch over to something called IKS (Internet Key Sharing), this required FTA boxes with Internet connections.
4. Now there is word that Dish Network is switching over to Nagravision 4 which will kill IKS. So now everyone is setting up for IPTV.
Dont mean to bore people with the history of hacking Directtv or dishnetwork but its good to have an understanding why tons of these IPTV websites are coming up. Some IPTV services are legal (Dish Network is actually rumored to having a legal IPTV service) and some are not so legal.
http://cointelegraph.com/news/113259/dish-network-launching-iptv-service-payable-in-bitcoin

yeah, i was pretty into it back when fta was new. even made a a few pc based autoroll scripts that uploaded new keys to my box when charlie kept breaking true autoroll..
nfps was always pretty solid when it came to iks, happy its them pioneering this iptv stuff as the cost is going to be pretty low.
anyways, live tv back up on the test server and STB emulator 0.5.21 also runs well with the vlc plugin.
as far as the legality of streaming iptv, since there is no decrypting of signals done in peoples homes, its not illegal to watch a stream, in Canada anyways. its the same as watching shows on any streaming site like icefilms.. the server is the one bearing the risk, and nfps has been a great iks server that has been runining for a long time, if anyone can keep a service like this up, these guys can.

Are there any reliable free IPTV servers or ones that cost a reasonable price of say $5 a month?

Reni10 said:
Are there any reliable free IPTV servers or ones that cost a reasonable price of say $5 a month?
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i havent seen anything that low, the lowest ive seen is $12 a month but that was spanish content. i say the average price for these services will be in the $15-$20 a month range.

I have tried out a trial of another service with UK channels and it is hit and miss and most of the channels can be found for free on the vdubt xbmc addon anyway?
I don't think this is reliable enough to replace a cable or satellite setup yet...
Is there anyway to pull in the vdubt or other free iptv playlists into this Mag250 emulator?

well 1.iptvprivateserver.tv is free for now, but it is in testing phase. Once they are confident they can handle all the users and channels it will be going paid. and it will only be $108 a year... if your currently into FTA and have "donated" to nfps, then you will be grandfathered in for the remainder of your term (for anyone who purchased before feb 1).
This is not your grandfathers streaming sites, they are not simply going to be adding streams found on the net.. . I would check to see if it is legal in your country to access such a server.
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Hello,
For your information we are planning to have the following lineup in the IPTV service:
- Charlie USA (Dish): All channels except Cinema PPV and internationals (at least at the beginning).
- BEV: Limited channels, but most of the popular ones like TSN are going to be available.
- Blue Sky: Most of the SD and HD channels except Sky Premiere (PPV).
- Red Point 50W: All channels including HDs.
- Media Networks 67W: All channels.
All PPVs movies channels are going to be excluded because of the VoD but we will open Sport PPV channels.
On the other hand we are trying to get some internationals channels but not sure if they are going to be available from the beginning.

Can somebody please share services with US channels? Doesn't matter free or payed.

Psycon... How do I sign up for this??
For your information we are planning to have the following lineup in the IPTV service:
- Charlie USA (Dish): All channels except Cinema PPV and internationals (at least at the beginning).
- BEV: Limited channels, but most of the popular ones like TSN are going to be available.

you cannot sign up. they are still in a trial phase..
however there are other servers currently up and running and being sold.
check out hxxp://dsspros.com/forum/other-type-discussions/
simple rules.. sign up to forum.. make at least 10 posts/replies to any subforum, then PM the seller asking for details, do not ask pricing on the forums themselves.

I couldn't get it to work with the VLC plugin or by selecting external player and then MXPlayer. I was able to get it working with the internal player though.
Mejdam, can you give any more info on the services from your two other screen shots?
I've never really considered IPTV services were actually a "thing." I figured they existed, but not much else. Can anyone give any links to other forums for more info on this sort of stuff?

aside from from the dsspros link i pasted above check out satfix.net. there is an iptv section offering services.

Reni10 said:
Are there any reliable free IPTV servers or ones that cost a reasonable price of say $5 a month?
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Hey Guys,
I'm trying to use the 0.5.18 , and the latest 0.5.21 - on a bunch of different devices, Nexus Player , Nexus 5, Galaxy Tab S and in each case if I try to use the VLC Plugin - it crashes back to the home screen - do I actually need to install VLC as well from the play store ?
Any idea ?

working gr8 on first try. most of the channels are working.
is there any other site?
thanks for the post.

Razer Forge TV vs Fire TV

Originally was told that my Razer Forge TV would ship April 29th (i bought the forge tv without the controller) but it didnt ship till May 5th and i received it May 6th. Heres what i've learned so far....
Forge TV Unboxing
Installing KODI on Razer Forge TV
Written Steps
1.) download QuickSupport from the playstore on the razer forge tv
2.) install teamviewer on my computer (personal version), type the numbers on the quicksupport and launch file transfer. i pushed the es file explorer apk that way
3.) download a file manager from the play store on the razer forge tv and find the apks(\sdcard\downloads\) and install them
4.) once i load es file explorer i linked it to my onedrive account and have been loading apks that way ever since
*AC3 (Dolby Digital) and DTS passthrough doesnt work!!! WTH Razer!!!
ROOT Your Razer Forge TV
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/general/root-4-6-1-unlocked-gsm-phone-t3104621
Benchmark - Antutu
Amazon Fire TV - 30503
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"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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Razer Forge TV - 27515
Bluetooth Remotes that Work:
Mele Pro F10 - Link - $30
Amazon Fire Stick Remote - Link - $15
Nexus Player Remote - Link - $???
Bluetooth Remotes that DONT Work:
Fire Tv Remote - Link - $30
APPS Ripped from Amazon Fire AppStore
HBO Go - Link
SFTP Transfer Speeds
Nexus Player (802.11ac) at 3.59MB/s
FireTv (Ethernet) at 4.18MB/s
Nexus Player with RJ45 Adapter at 3.82MB/s
FireTV Stick (802.11n 5GHZ) at 1.41MB/s
Open Hour Chameleon (Gigabit Ethernet) 7.1MB/s
Razer Forge TV (Gigabit Ethernet) at 3.83MB/s........ So much for gigabit!!! (i normally test the boxes with SSh/SFTP Daemon but theres no root yet)
I'll add videos and side by side comparing the differences as they are requested.

I have my pre-ordered how did you load kodi same method as for nexus player?

patt2k said:
I have my pre-ordered how did you load kodi same method as for nexus player?
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Which method was that? because going to the play store and searching for es file explorer than pushing that to the razer forge tv doesnt work. Also i couldnt get the usb to mount and be seen by the file manager that i downloaded from the play store.
What i had to do was
1.) download QuickSupport from the playstore on the razer forge tv
2.) install teamviewer on my computer (personal version), type the numbers on the quicksupport and launch file transfer. i pushed the es file explorer apk that way
3.) download a file manager from the play store on the razer forge tv and find the apks(\sdcard\downloads\) and install them
4.) once i load es file explorer i linked it to my onedrive account and have been loading apks that way ever since

Nice thanks for the tip should have mine saturday from amazon
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

Mind comes in tomorrow and I'm pumped. How do you like it so far? Ready to try loading some Fire TV apps on it. I know they don't work on the nexus player, but I'm hoping because Razer has an arm processor it will have better success.

mejdam said:
Which method was that? because going to the play store and searching for es file explorer than pushing that to the razer forge tv doesnt work. Also i couldnt get the usb to mount and be seen by the file manager that i downloaded from the play store.
What i had to do was
1.) download QuickSupport from the playstore on the razer forge tv
2.) install teamviewer on my computer (personal version), type the numbers on the quicksupport and launch file transfer. i pushed the es file explorer apk that way
3.) download a file manager from the play store on the razer forge tv and find the apks(\sdcard\downloads\) and install them
4.) once i load es file explorer i linked it to my onedrive account and have been loading apks that way ever since
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Does adb not work on it?

does it even have an official netflix app? no small remote included is pretty much a deal breaker for me.

Oh i forgot to ask can you check for hbo go, showtime anytime apps?
And also crap no optical cable oops.. Hopefully i can find usb to optical adapter
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

If you have an hdhomerun, I'd love to see a demo of the live channels app just to get a feel for the interface and how well it works.

Can you please do a comparison of FireTV vs. ForgeTV vs. Nexus Player? I want to move from a Roku3 but not sure if 1) androidtv is better than roku 2) which box to get
Thanks!

patt2k said:
Oh i forgot to ask can you check for hbo go, showtime anytime apps?
And also crap no optical cable oops.. Hopefully i can find usb to optical adapter
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
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i was able to pull the hbo go apk from the fire tv store and remove the appstore check but i dont have an HBO account to sign in as. I did however rip minecraft from the fire tv appstore and was able to play it on the razer forge tv.
for obvious reason im not going to link to the minecraft apk.

mejdam said:
i was able to pull the hbo go apk from the fire tv store and remove the appstore check but i dont have an HBO account to sign in as. I did however rip minecraft from the fire tv appstore and was able to play it on the razer forge tv.
for obvious reason im not going to link to the minecraft apk.
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Wow you are good man. I do have hbo go and showtime account. Can you share and do same for showtime ?
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patt2k said:
Wow you are good man. I do have hbo go and showtime account. Can you share and do same for showtime ?
Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
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i uploaded the hbo go apk on the first post but its getting late, i'll rip and upload the showtime account tomorrow.
Feel free to test that hbo go apk on an android device though.
i dont see a legal issue removing amazon checks from free apps but i will not remove them from paid apps.

@mejdam on top of my previous question
Can you please do a comparison of FireTV vs. ForgeTV vs. Nexus Player? I want to move from a Roku3 but not sure if 1) androidtv is better than roku 2) which box to get
Thanks!
which box do you think will work best with kodi (media served through NAS or external hard disk)?
Thanks!

clanbartok said:
@mejdam on top of my previous question
Can you please do a comparison of FireTV vs. ForgeTV vs. Nexus Player? I want to move from a Roku3 but not sure if 1) androidtv is better than roku 2) which box to get
Thanks!
which box do you think will work best with kodi (media served through NAS or external hard disk)?
Thanks!
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Right now i would say grab the Fire TV if you want a good app selection, if you have an AV receiver or if you want to connect it using an ethernet cable.
or Better yet if you plan to use it as your main HTPC device i'd wait for the Nvidia Shield Console.

mejdam said:
SFTP Transfer Speeds
Nexus Player (802.11ac) at 3.59MB/s
FireTv (Ethernet) at 4.18MB/s
Nexus Player with RJ45 Adapter at 3.82MB/s
FireTV Stick (802.11n 5GHZ) at 1.41MB/s
Open Hour Chameleon (Gigabit Ethernet) 7.1MB/s
Razer Forge TV (Gigabit Ethernet) at 3.83MB/s........ So much for gigabit!!! (i normally test the boxes with SSh/SFTP Daemon but theres no root yet)
I'll add videos and side by side comparing the differences as they are requested.
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I wonder if the Razer Gigabit Ethernet is CPU limited as you use encrypted transfer, or somehow running at 100mbit/s?

Awesome, been hoping someone would figure this out.
confirmed that Kodi works with this method? I've been regretting this purchase until I read this thread. Thanks!

mejdam said:
i uploaded the hbo go apk on the first post but its getting late, i'll rip and upload the showtime account tomorrow.
Feel free to test that hbo go apk on an android device though.
i dont see a legal issue removing amazon checks from free apps but i will not remove them from paid apps.
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Sounds good thx
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MUKZU said:
Awesome, been hoping someone would figure this out.
confirmed that Kodi works with this method? I've been regretting this purchase until I read this thread. Thanks!
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look at the original post i uploaded a video showing KODI working.

mejdam said:
look at the original post i uploaded a video showing KODI working.
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When you have tine post the showtime anytime apk for me thanks again dude !!
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Fire TV 2 Gaming Thread

I'm making this thread because there simply isn't enough info dedicated to gaming on the Fire TV 2. I can't be the only one with the frustration of the lack of proper USB support or gamepads not working correctly.
Some things I have found out
- You can install the OUYA launcher to this device and gain access to the Discover store but if you own OUYA games or plan to buy any, you will not have access to DRM. I will play around with transferring my DRM folder from a real OUYA but I'm waiting for a simpler rooting process.
- The OUYA Controller, while perfect on the old Fire TV, it is far from perfect on AFTV2
- PDP Rock Candy, wired XBox 360 controllers works in some games, not in others.
- Haven't found a way to get the Google Play Store to properly work yet... Putting that out there.
- For game streamers, the Google, OUYA and Amazon versions of Kainy do not work
- You don't always have to buy the Fire TV version of your Amazon games. Just transfer your purchased game from a phone or tablet to the AFTV2 and your Amazon account will give you proper access to the game on Fire TV2
Anyone else have any gaming related findings?

lightykd said:
wired XBox 360 controllers works in some games, not in others.
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Wireless XBox 360 controllers used to work fine with Fire TV 1. My Fire TV 2 doesn't even find (recognise) them.

Thanks for the useful comments regarding the 360 controller. That saved me a lot of money buying gadgets that would have just sat in a cupboard.
Another thing would be streaming games via splashtop, remotr, kinoconsole or moonlight. I understand only nvidia supports hardware encoding for streaming which smooths out frame rates. So far I haven't had any luck getting anything to work. Splashtop crashes out, remotr hasn't been reliable and I haven't been able to try the other two yet but l will be trying out . I'll post my results on this tinkering.

skyball2 said:
Wireless XBox 360 controllers used to work fine with Fire TV 1. My Fire TV 2 doesn't even find (recognise) them.
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I've yet to test mine, but did you make sure that USB ADB was turned OFF?
If it is on you won't be able to use the USB port for anything other than ADB access.
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Can you transfer the controller definition files from AFTV1 to AFTV2?
Like talked about in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716838
What is the benefit of the "OUYA Launcher"? (also how to install it would be handy too)
I had installed the play services and store on my FireOS 5 dev preview updated FireTV stick, I wasn't able to access the store (no connection) but it did mean that I could install apps that required the play services to be present. http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/fake-location-firetv-stick-fireos-5-root-t3252155

Ludacrisvp said:
I've yet to test mine, but did you make sure that USB ADB was turned OFF?
If it is on you won't be able to use the USB port for anything other than ADB access.
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Can you transfer the controller definition files from AFTV1 to AFTV2?
Like talked about in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716838
What is the benefit of the "OUYA Launcher"? (also how to install it would be handy too)
I had installed the play services and store on my FireOS 5 dev preview updated FireTV stick, I wasn't able to access the store (no connection) but it did mean that I could install apps that required the play services to be present. http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/fake-location-firetv-stick-fireos-5-root-t3252155
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Sorry I missed your post. For me, the OUYA launcher allows me to access games I've purchased from their store over the past two years. Additionally I use it for better organization of non-Amazon apps. It's VERY handy. You can also purchase additional games from their store but I will admit that some games have DRM issues and pictures within game pages rarely show in the store. Also, without a way to freeze the Fire TV home men upon opening the OUYA menu, some games will not have proper access to their pause menus and there is NO way to access the OUYA "home" menu. -P.M. Me for additional details on installing the OUYA menu. I wish Wonder Lee was around. His software controller modding skills would be helpful right now.
New question: Am I the only one using the following controller on the Fire TV 2/4K?
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In case you don't know, these are the Rock Candy XBox 360 controllers made by PDP. They are the most common third party XBox 360 controller. For the most part these controllers work well but I seem to have major issues with some games not wanting to play nice with the analog triggers and right analog stick. Additionally Recast (the Dreamcast emulator) does not recognize the triggers at all and struggles with the d-pad. I've already sent a bug report to the Recast team. I really like these controllers from the lighthearted colors to the nice, long white cables. I just wish the software issues could be fixed.

I already have a compatable apps & accessories thread in the Q&A section of the forum, it lists working & non working apps & accessories for the AFTV2 look here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267
If you wanna add any to my list please feel free to comment by following the link above

deanr1977 said:
I already have a compatable apps & accessories thread in the Q&A section of the forum, it lists working & non working apps & accessories for the AFTV2 look here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267
If you wanna add any to my list please feel free to comment by following the link above
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I see that you have the RockCandy 360 Controller listed but you should make a note that the analog triggers and right analog stick do not function properly in every app/game.

lightykd said:
I see that you have the RockCandy 360 Controller listed but you should make a note that the analog triggers and right analog stick do not function properly in every app/game.
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Cheers mate will do that now
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I have Modern Combat 5 running on the 4K Fire TV. You will have to side load this game from the Google Play Store as this game is NOT available through Amazon's App Store. For those of you who are currently playing this game on other devices, connect your save files with your Facebook account FIRST. Because there is no proper "Google Play Games" support on the Fire TV, connecting your saves to your Facebook account will ensure access to your cloud save once you load MC5 on your fire TV. Have fun!

Dont want to double post but here is my latest video of my using OUYA resources on the AFTV2. I eve added some Modern Combat 5 play time so everyone can see how well the game plays on our device.
https://youtu.be/PN6YF8V5TQ0

skyball2 said:
Wireless XBox 360 controllers used to work fine with Fire TV 1. My Fire TV 2 doesn't even find (recognise) them.
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...meanwhile I found out, that the FireTV 2 does in fact connect to the wireless XBOX controllers, but only if you have ethernet disconnected. Bummer!

skyball2 said:
...meanwhile I found out, that the FireTV 2 does in fact connect to the wireless XBOX controllers, but only if you have ethernet disconnected. Bummer!
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Check out the compatibility here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267
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I found out that the Fire TV saves all internal apps to "/data/app" I tried doing a directory bind (using the app "Folder Mount") of that folder to my hard drive and I didn't go so well. The Fire TV immediately considered all apps in that folder as being the "wrong version". This **** is a pain in the ass! We can't do any serious gaming on this box until this storage problem is fixed!

Can we play any fifa game with fire tv 2?

ßoNjoVe said:
Can we play any fifa game with fire tv 2?
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You're going to have to side load a copy. If the game supports HID controllers then you should be fine.

My master list of OUYA games compatible on the AFTV2 has been updated
http://firetvgamers.freeforums.net/thread/2/ouya-games-compatible-fire-tv

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You're going to have to side load a copy. If the game supports HID controllers then you should be fine.
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When i try to open fifa on fire tv 2 that s going to restart and restard again.

ßoNjoVe said:
When i try to open fifa on fire tv 2 that s going to restart and restard again.
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There's a good chance that the game doesn't work or it's missing some files. Did you only transfer the APK to your Fire TV or the APK and a folder that goes in ether "android/data" or android/obb"?

lightykd said:
There's a good chance that the game doesn't work or it's missing some files. Did you only transfer the APK to your Fire TV or the APK and a folder that goes in ether "android/data" or android/obb"?
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Yes i did that.

ßoNjoVe said:
Yes i did that.
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Your copy of Fifa was probably made with a specific GPU in mind. If you're using an AFTV2, the GPU is a Power VR GX6250. -on AFTV1 it's Qualcomm Adreno 320. Your copy of Fifa is probably NOT an "all devices" version. Check the specs of the Android device you're copying from. If the graphic card isn't the same "type" as the one on your Fire TV then try looking for a version that matches your Fire TV's GPU.

Shield Experience 5.1 + Kodi 17 - HDMI passthrough

Dear xda Community,
I've got the Shield Android TV from 2015. Until prior firmware versions there was no problem, but with the newest update to the Shield Experience 5.1, I can't get the HDMI passthrough activated to my Yamaha AV-Receiver. Every other device functions as usual. Related to this I can’t find the explicit options in the system settings of Android TV anymore. In the past, there were special options for that.
Most time I watch 5.1 sources via Kodi with the actual version 17. Kodi is configured correct, as I can see. Passthrough and all AV-Receiver supported decoders are activated. I tested many options and ended in a reset of Kodi, which also didn't helped me out. Until now I also didn’t found any other helpful descritptions anywhere here on XDA. I also contacted the nVidia Support first. It didn't helped me either. I had a chat with them and they wanted to contact me within 72 hours. It's 12 days in the past now. Now hopefully you can help me out.
Greetings
Raenzen

Have you tried using SPMC instead? http://spmc.semperpax.com

it is there but if i told you how to find it that would spoil all the fun
hint hint Basic -expert settings mode

I do have the same Problem. And there is a topic in geforce forum. I just stay here if somebody finds a solution.

settings/system click on the cog at the bottom change from standard to expert click on audio move mouse to righthand panel SCROLL DOWN:fingers-crossed:

Haha - I'm in the pro/ expert settings of Kodi already. That would be to easy at all. As I told, everything should set upt correct in there. I'm also activated and controlled the developer options of Android TV. :-/
I'll give SPMC a try and will report back.

SPMC is working fine, so the problem will be with Kodi v17. Thanks for the tip and until it's fixed, SPMC will be my daily driver. I liked Kodi in v17 cause of the better look.
P.S.: Found a part of the problem in Kodi v17. The speaker configuration has to be set to 2.0 regardless of the real setting (5.0 for me). From now on Kodi converts everything in Dolby Digital and sends it to my receiver via passthrough and it's displayed nearly correct in the receiver. The sound is also much better now. For me it is no real passthrough at all. DTS lines and everything else will be converted in prior. Cause my receiver can handle every usual codec on it's own, I would like to do it so. I also activated all available codecs for my receiver in the passthrough settings of Kodi for sure. I'm glad at all that SPMC does the job right as it should.

Raenzen said:
SPMC is working fine, so the problem will be with Kodi v17. Thanks for the tip and until it's fixed, SPMC will be my daily driver. I liked Kodi in v17 cause of the better look.
P.S.: Found a part of the problem in Kodi v17. The speaker configuration has to be set to 2.0 regardless of the real setting (5.0 for me). From now on Kodi converts everything in Dolby Digital and sends it to my receiver via passthrough and it's displayed nearly correct in the receiver. The sound is also much better now. For me it is no real passthrough at all. DTS lines and everything else will be converted in prior. Cause my receiver can handle every usual codec on it's own, I would like to do it so. I also activated all available codecs for my receiver in the passthrough settings of Kodi for sure. I'm glad at all that SPMC does the job right as it should.
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Here you go...
This was long discussed on Kodi's own forum....download the "****ty" of 17.1 RC1 version below from my drive:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5076OsZGx-_bWhDb2dXSklySUk/view?usp=sharing
File was originally from post 498 of the address below, but download link doesn't work anymore.
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=289735&page=34
I got all DD and DTS passthrough functionality once I installed it. I also was very frustrated when I lost those features going from 17RC4 to 17 final.
Let me know if it work for you as well!!

Raenzen said:
SPMC is working fine, so the problem will be with Kodi v17. Thanks for the tip and until it's fixed, SPMC will be my daily driver. I liked Kodi in v17 cause of the better look.
P.S.: Found a part of the problem in Kodi v17. The speaker configuration has to be set to 2.0 regardless of the real setting (5.0 for me). From now on Kodi converts everything in Dolby Digital and sends it to my receiver via passthrough and it's displayed nearly correct in the receiver. The sound is also much better now. For me it is no real passthrough at all. DTS lines and everything else will be converted in prior. Cause my receiver can handle every usual codec on it's own, I would like to do it so. I also activated all available codecs for my receiver in the passthrough settings of Kodi for sure. I'm glad at all that SPMC does the job right as it should.
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I've been pleased with spmc so far.
It fixes a few of the niggling android issues that Kodi has.

Just to inform everyone else interested. Kodi runs perfect for me again with the newest nightly. I've installed the actual version from the 11th of march and can't figure out any left problems.
You can grab the nightlies right here from there official site:
http://mirrors.kodi.tv/nightlies/android/arm/Krypton/
Happy to get full HDMI passthrough in combination with the new skin again!

It does not work for me with the latest nightly. I just still get pcm to my yamaha. What are your settings?

Funky-Fab-4Strings said:
It does not work for me with the latest nightly. I just still get pcm to my yamaha. What are your settings?
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Here you've got my system settings in Kodi v17.1. They are in german, but the order is the same as in english for sure. This should be no problem at all. Just for info my Shield TV is connected to a Yamaha RX-V473. Not the youngest model anymore.
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"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
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Raenzen said:
Here you've got my system settings in Kodi v17.1. They are in german, but the order is the same as in english for sure. This should be no problem at all. Just for info my Shield TV is connected to a Yamaha RX-V473. Not the youngest model anymore.
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Have you updated to kodi 17.6, and if yes, do all the audio options including Dts-hd and Dolby True Hd remain there on the shield?