HTC Desire's DLNA function - Desire HD General

DLNA.
This function is new to me but not for the rest of the high tech world. I know
nobody yet have used this function on a DHD, but SGS users maybe know what to
expect. This thread mainly is gonna be about the functionality of the DLNA
function in the DHD.
- Suggestions on what TV/LCD/LED to get.
- Is the wireless streeming seemless.
- What options to change in the TV to get the function to work.
These and many more questions can be asked about DLNA.
This topic mainly is cuz i am going to buy that phone and any input is superb welcome, but this topic, yet has not been seen in the DHD General section.
Please, reply on what do you suggest and how do you se yourself using this function
on a daily bases.
Best regards
mark wild

I think (hope) the wireless streaming is seamless if not htc should've scrapped the plans and gone for a hdmi

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MacaronyMax said:
I think (hope) the wireless streaming is seamless if not htc should've scrapped the plans and gone for a hdmi
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True to that. I do hope so to. Any information how it all works.

i have a ps3 hooked up to my hdtv. apparently the ps3 supports DLNA so im looking forward to testing it out when i get the DHD.

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SupremeBeaver said:
i have a ps3 hooked up to my hdtv. apparently the ps3 supports DLNA so im looking forward to testing it out when i get the DHD.
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What do you expect from hooking the phone up with your PS3??

mark wild said:
What do you expect from hooking the phone up with your PS3??
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true love lol

If you have a PS3 connected to your home network, then you connect your SGS/DHD to your home network via WiFi and turn on the DLNA app.
You'll see your SGS/DHD appear in the Video and Music menus of the XMB (you may have to scan for media servers on the PS3). Then you can browse the media folders on your SGS/DHD using the XMB.
Select a file, and it'll start playing on your TV. Simple.
That's how it works on my old Omnia II. Can't imagine it'll be any different with current handsets.

sub69 said:
If you have a PS3 connected to your home network, then you connect your SGS/DHD to your home network via WiFi and turn on the DLNA app.
You'll see your SGS/DHD appear in the Video and Music menus of the XMB (you may have to scan for media servers on the PS3). Then you can browse the media folders on your SGS/DHD using the XMB.
Select a file, and it'll start playing on your TV. Simple.
That's how it works on my old Omnia II. Can't imagine it'll be any different with current handsets.
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yeah ur right. but i've been wondering, will the format of videos have to be supported by both the DHD and the PS3? Does the ps3 actually decode the video file, or is that done on the DHD and simply streamed to the ps3?
for example, if i have an .avi file that works on my Desire hd, but assume this file type doesnt work on the ps3 natively, will it still be able to stream it?

This is a question that I'm very interested in finding out the answer too actually.
As I understand it, the advertised feature is that I can stream content (pictures, videos. music) to a DLNA device to display on my TV.
In my case, I have a PS3 and an Xbox360 which I assume will recognise my Desire HD and playback the content I have on it, which is fine.
I use my Xbox360 to play back content from my computer (which I believe is DLNA as well), so I am wondering if I can use my Desire HD to play back stuff from other devices. If so, then I can watch all my movies and listen to all my music via DLNA on my phone...
I really badly hope that this will work - MAJOR selling point for me!

SupremeBeaver said:
...if i have an .avi file that works on my Desire hd, but assume this file type doesnt work on the ps3 natively, will it still be able to stream it?
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The format of the video has to be supported by the PS3.
That used to be a problem with early PS3 Firmwares, but DivX/Xvid are natively supported by the PS3 these days...

dazultra2000 said:
I am wondering if I can use my Desire HD to play back stuff from other devices. If so, then I can watch all my movies and listen to all my music via DLNA on my phone...
I really badly hope that this will work - MAJOR selling point for me!
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Well, again, the DLNA app on the Omnia II allowed this, so I see no reason why this wouldn't work on the newer handsets.
Incidentally, if you connect to your home network via WiFi and use a File Manager that allows you to browse the local network (EStrongs File Explorer, for instance) - then you should be able to just share your PC's media folder and watch avi and mp3 files by browsing to them and opening them on your device. No DLNA needed.

sub69 said:
The format of the video has to be supported by the PS3.
That used to be a problem with early PS3 Firmwares, but DivX/Xvid are natively supported by the PS3 these days...
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ah ok i see. but if i were to reverse things and try to stream a video which works on the ps3, but not on the DHD itself, would this work?

SupremeBeaver said:
ah ok i see. but if i were to reverse things and try to stream a video which works on the ps3, but not on the DHD itself, would this work?
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There's no conversion done at all by either the PS3 or the DHD, DLNA is literally just a transport method, so you need to be streaming a file that is compatible on the receiving device. There are good media players available on Android to cover most filetypes though.
Of course, if you're trying to stream 1080p mkv files to your DHD, then you might struggle...

sub69 said:
Well, again, the DLNA app on the Omnia II allowed this, so I see no reason why this wouldn't work on the newer handsets.
Incidentally, if you connect to your home network via WiFi and use a File Manager that allows you to browse the local network (EStrongs File Explorer, for instance) - then you should be able to just share your PC's media folder and watch avi and mp3 files by browsing to them and opening them on your device. No DLNA needed.
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Useful to know! Thanks for that.

or just get one of these: http://www.expansys.com/hisense-108...our-downloaded-films-on-your-tv-in-hd-186127/
hisense has dlna and is brilliant bit of kit. youd just need a gaming relay wifi station / repeater or similar.
a wifi usb dongle should work too
bit cheaper here: http://www.redstore.com/HISSDC001

I have been using DLNA for a good few months now with both my Samsung GS & Acer Laptop which has DLNA onboard for streaming to my Samsung LED TV and find it worthwhile for both Music & Photo's. However, for Video you have to watch (pun not intended) what you are going to stream.
Any video file that has heavy encoding will make the buffer stream work overtime and often freeze or judder on the TV.
.MKV files are quite prone to this but DivX and MP4 files play quite well.
Even the phone's own camera if recorded at 720p will test your TV as it struggles to receive the data smoothly.
The first thing you will need to pick up the DLNA content from your phone is a media hub. This can either be a Laptop with DLNA, a PS3, or if you are lucky to have one of the recent LCD/LED TV's with DLNA built in you can stream the content direct to your TV.
In my setup I have a Samsung LED TV which is connected by Ethernet to my Router.
Whenever I want to stream data from the phone to the TV the first thing to do is on the phone run the DLNA App (on the SGS it is called AllShare).
P.S. There are other third-party DLNA titles available such as iMediashare Mobile and Twonky Mobile which will do the same job.
The next step is on the TV Remote use the 'Source' button and change it until you see on the TV your phone's name (mine again says Samsung Galaxy S).
Once you have selected the phone the TV's screen will now change to a Media Hub and give a menu system where you can then select Photo's, Music or Video.
Providing on your phone's DLNA App you have chosen to stream specific files these same files will then be available for displaying on your TV.
To control the content on your TV simply use the TV's Remote and Play/Pause/Stop/Back for previous/Fwd for next/etc.
At present we don't know anything on the App that will be on the DHD so it's going to be guesswork in exactly how data is selected for streaming.
Hope this helps.
Beards

One question, you seem to know about this stuff, is the DLNA menu in the TV different to every different DLNA application, or is the menu already in the TV itself?

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jkoljo said:
...is the DLNA menu in the TV different to every different DLNA application, or is the menu already in the TV itself?
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Each DLNA receiver has it's own menu for browsing DLNA media that it has discovered. The menu is part of the software in the TV, PS3, XBox, HTC receiver, etc...
DLNA is a standard for the transmission and discovery of media, but once that connection has been made, you can stream/send all sorts - DivX, Mkv, WMV, Avi, MP3, Wav, Jpg, Bmp, etc, etc.
The receiving device will have it's own software, with it's own menu, and it's own supported filetypes and codecs.
If you have a DLNA TV, it may only be able to play DivX and MP3. Or maybe Mkv and Wav. It's up to the manufacturer and the software they've loaded...

jkoljo said:
One question, you seem to know about this stuff, is the DLNA menu in the TV different to every different DLNA application, or is the menu already in the TV itself?
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The menu you see on the TV is what is built in on the TV.
So it does not matter what software you use on the phone it will always be the same on the TV.
As an example ~ Both my Laptop (which also transmit media data) & Phone show exactly the same menu on the TV.

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Epic Video -> PC -> PS3... How?

I don't have a DNLA enabled tv but I have a PS3 that I can view streaming video from my pc. Allshare see's my PC so how do I set this up? I'm using windows 7 64 Ultimate.
I want to be able to be sitting in front of my LCD TV in my bedroom and hit a button on my epic and have my TV play my 720p video.
Can someone explain this process for me please?
Kafluke said:
I don't have a DNLA enabled tv but I have a PS3 that I can view streaming video from my pc. Allshare see's my PC so how do I set this up? I'm using windows 7 64 Ultimate.
I want to be able to be sitting in front of my LCD TV in my bedroom and hit a button on my epic and have my TV play my 720p video.
Can someone explain this process for me please?
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1. You have to have a wireless router with either DLNA or UPnP enabled
2. Be on the same network
3. Fire up allshare and select from phone t other device
4. Select find media servers on the ps3 and select samsung phone.
5. Find the 720p video you want to stream and hit triangle and select copy
6. When that's done copying, hit play from xmb
Actually, I just tried this but I get unsupported data. Movies on my sd card work though.
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rufflez2010 said:
1. You have to have a wireless router with either DLNA or UPnP enabled
2. Be on the same network
3. Fire up allshare and select from phone t other device
4. Select find media servers on the ps3 and select samsung phone.
5. Find the 720p video you want to stream and hit triangle and select copy
6. When that's done copying, hit play from xmb
Actually, I just tried this but I get unsupported data. Movies on my sd card work though.
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1. I have a Linksys RangePlus Wireless Router WRT110 (I looked through all the tabs on the setup screen and can't find UPnP or DLNA)
2. Check
3. That's not one of the options, here are the three options:
-Play file from my phone on another player
-Play file from server on my phone
-Play file from server on another player via my phone
4. It only finds my pc media servers
The PS3 can see the Epic...so just cut out the PC
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The PS3 can see the Epic...so just cut out the PC
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Can you please help me to accomplish this? I tried the steps above with the results in my post. It's not working for me.
If the PS3 can connect directly to the epic then please explain these steps because I'd love to cut out the middle man so to speak.
Just Open allshare.
Look at your video/pictures/music menus on your PS3. Ta-da!
It's that easy.
The PS3 won't play your personal videos, though, so that sucks big time because it kind of defeats the purpose of why I want to use my PS3. If I want to watch movies through it, I'll just pop in the DVD.
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1. I have a Linksys RangePlus Wireless Router WRT110 (I looked through all the tabs on the setup screen and can't find UPnP or DLNA)
2. Check
3. That's not one of the options, here are the three options:
-Play file from my phone on another player
-Play file from server on my phone
-Play file from server on another player via my phone
4. It only finds my pc media servers
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1. If you can see your computer, your router supports it
2. Good
3. The first option on #3. Play file from my phone to another player (ps3).
4. Check for media servers after you've selected the file you want to play on the ps3.
Report success/failure. I'll try to help remotely. PM me if still having troubles.
After google searching, your router may not technically support it, but if it sees your PC, I don't see how it couldn't. Log into your router's settings. Select Administration. Select Management. You should see Web Access, Remote Access and UPnP. Make sure its enabled. If not, try a firmware update for the router and see if its visible after that. Careful with the firmware updates, usually, you can't roll back.
Well router UPnP is on:
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Still no love though. Epic says "No devices":
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Well router UPnP is on:
Still no love though. Epic says "No devices":
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Yeah. You won't be able to do anything with your PS3 on your Epic. It's a one way street. You can view some video formats on your phone through the PS3 but not the other way around.
That's all I'm trying to do. I have recorded some 720p videos with the epic and so far I haven't found a good and easy way to play them on my HD TV. I'm not trying to go the other way.
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That's all I'm trying to do. I have recorded some 720p videos with the epic and so far I haven't found a good and easy way to play them on my HD TV. I'm not trying to go the other way.
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Well that won't work. You would need to send the video to the computer and have it transcoded to the ps3 cause it doesn't have the codec to view it. It pops up as unsupported data on the ps3. Windows media player will convert the video automatically (transcode) on the fly. Ill do a video for you on how to do both.
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rufflez2010 said:
Well that won't work. You would need to send the video to the computer and have it transcoded to the ps3 cause it doesn't have the codec to view it. It pops up as unsupported data on the ps3. Windows media player will convert the video automatically (transcode) on the fly. Ill do a video for you on how to do both.
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I'd really appreciate that! One of the selling points for the phone was the allshare capability but since I don't have a DNLA TV I have to find other ways to make it work.
Kafluke said:
I'd really appreciate that! One of the selling points for the phone was the allshare capability but since I don't have a DNLA TV I have to find other ways to make it work.
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Yeah, I'd appreciate it, too.
As promised, here is a tutorial on the allshare to ps3. You must be logged into the playstation network. UPnP said not supported when I setup my ps3 to my network. I'm not really sure why SinCity does what it does when trying to share the file, others have worked better in the past. I'm still looking for a transcoding program for windows. It appears that Windows media player no longer does this (sorry, had a mac for the past 2 years, just bought a new windows beast today).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysN2pgWiOHg
Example of transcoding on a mac
The Epic and the PS3 go both ways. If you want to view pictures from the PS3 on your Epic. You have to turn on Media Server on PS3 and connect your Epic to the same network as your PS3. Turn on AllShare and select "Play File from server on my phone."
And then if you want to go from Epic to PS3, Click Play File from my phone on another player. And select the epic on the PS3....your done!
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The Epic and the PS3 go both ways. If you want to view pictures from the PS3 on your Epic. You have to turn on Media Server on PS3 and connect your Epic to the same network as your PS3. Turn on AllShare and select "Play File from server on my phone."
And then if you want to go from Epic to PS3, Click Play File from my phone on another player. And select the epic on the PS3....your done!
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You've just described the exact same thing that a couple of other posts did. It's not working! I have my ps3 and my epic on the same wifi and the ps3 can see my windows pc just fine.
Please don't post unless you have something you can contribute. Posts like, "you just select allshare and it works" are useless. Read the thread, there are already posts like yours. We're looking for complete steps because for some of us its not just a matter of "finding" your epic on your ps3 media server search.
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As promised, here is a tutorial on the allshare to ps3. You must be logged into the playstation network. UPnP said not supported when I setup my ps3 to my network. I'm not really sure why SinCity does what it does when trying to share the file, others have worked better in the past. I'm still looking for a transcoding program for windows. It appears that Windows media player no longer does this (sorry, had a mac for the past 2 years, just bought a new windows beast today).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysN2pgWiOHg
Example of transcoding on a mac
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You have to be signed in to psn? Thats a problem because I don't want to update my firmware (psfreedom)
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You have to be signed in to psn? Thats a problem because I don't want to update my firmware (psfreedom)
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I thought you did in order to get media servers to work... maybe thats the issue? I wasn't 100% sure. I'll try signing out and reporting back... Please hold
Update: Nope, its finding my desktop's media server despite having an update now. Thats not your issue... My bet is on a router. Know anyone else with a PS3 you could try this with?
figured out how to transcode 720p to the ps3.
If your computer can communicate to the ps3 properly, then you're all set. What you do is:
1. fire up windows media place and select video library\
2. select the default file there if you haven't deleted it. Its Wildlife in HD. If you've deleted it, then just go to: Libraries\videos\sample videos-- skip 3
3. right click on the video and open folder
4. place your 720p recorded video in this folder
5. find your computer's media server on the ps3, select video-- all video-- and select your file. It should play shortly afterwards.
Basically, you could just create a shared folder somewhere on your computer and place the files in there and it should stream to the ps3.
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[Q] Does the Desire HD's DNLA function actually work?

Has anyone here been able to get the DNLA function in their Desire HD to actually work?
I have tried sharing photos, videos, and music via the "Connected Media" app that comes preinstalled on the device, but its not working. I have my DHD and a PS3 connected to my wifi router, and I can stream from my laptop to my PS3 no problem. I had hoped I would be able to look at my photos and videos on my TV via the PS3's DNLA capabilities.
Connected Media was not working, so I then tried installing and running an alternative media sharing app, TwonkyServer Mobile - but again, no joy.
I can see the DNLA Android service running when I go into Settings->Applications->Running Services, so now I am wondering, is there something wrong with that service?
HTC's own website advertising the Desire HD states :
"Some moments you never want to forget. So capture them with HTC Desire HD’s high definition video camera. Then relive and share every detail in HD on your TV, long after the memories have faded."
So far, I have not been able to do anything of the sort
From what I can tell, in terms of recieving streams from other devices, it *does* work, but is VERY limited in terms of what content it can play back.
However, in terms of playing back content from the phone - it requires a very specific device (i.e. HTC's Hub) in order to be able to play back content. Poor move by HTC.
I thought the HTC Hub was for TV's that don't support DLNA?
i can get mine working with xbmc in linux, some pictures seemed to crash it though.
Mine works very well.
It streams from connected media to my DLNA enabled Samsung TV or DLNA enabled Sony Blu Ray. It has also worked well streaming to Windows 7 pcs. Very quick and very clear.
I've not had much luck playing divX files from my DLNA nas on my phone though, music plays fine.
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However, in terms of playing back content from the phone - it requires a very specific device (i.e. HTC's Hub) in order to be able to play back content. Poor move by HTC.
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I thought the whole idea was that it meant videos/photos taken using the Desire HD could then be displayed on TVs via DNLA. PS3s are DNLA compliant which meant a lot of people out there should already be able to use that as their DNLA client. I was looking forward to seeing my new 720p videos on my TV via the PS3.
NB Streaming from other devices to the Desire HD I am not that concerned with.
If anyone has been able to successfully stream from their Desire HD to their TV via a PS3, please let it be known
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Mine works very well.
It has also worked well streaming to Windows 7 pcs. Very quick and very clear.
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How do you setup the phone and win7 pc to stream music/fotos/videos from the pfone to the pc?
I want this because I have a mediacenter HTPC connected to my tv in the livingroom
Thx
It should work, because DLNA is a standard protocol. It would be stupid of HTC to come up with a proprietary protocol and label it as "DLNA".
To the OP: are you sure you are connected to your internal network? If you install ES File Explorer, or Android SFTP, can you connect to a PC from your DHD?
edit: both HTC Desire Z & HD are DLNA Certified Products, so they should work with any other DLNA device => http://certification.dlna.org/certs/REG46355642.pdf
In this certification document, apparently only IMAGES are certified as media that can be streamed, so only pictures, no music or movies.
edit2: comparing DLNA certificate of the Galaxy S, which has more certified media types: http://certification.dlna.org/certs/REG70753643.pdf
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To the OP: are you sure you are connected to your internal network? If you install ES File Explorer, or Android SFTP, can you connect to a PC from your DHD?
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I definitely have the DHD connected to the internal network (by which I assume you mean my wifi router?). I checked on my router's admin webpages and the phone is being allocated an IP address etc ok so I dont think there is anything wrong on a TCP/IP level.
I will install Android SFTP later and try connecting to my laptop, but I'd still love to hear if anyone has had any DHD->PS3 success.
Yeah if anyone can get it to work with the PS3 that would be great.
Also you could try install Twonky Mobile and see if that works.
Ok, I tried using Connected Media on my DHD in conjunction with Windows Media Player on Windows 7...and it worked perfectly!
Perhaps PS3's are not actually fully DNLA compliant, or there is some obscure setting hidden somewhere in the PS3 that I havent switched on (I doubt the latter however) ?
In any case, I think this proves that Connected Media does in fact work. Thanks to whoever suggested trying it against something other than a PS3.
As always, if anyone actually does get it to work with a PS3 - please shout!
mcclane said:
How do you setup the phone and win7 pc to stream music/fotos/videos from the pfone to the pc?
I want this because I have a mediacenter HTPC connected to my tv in the livingroom
Thx
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It all runs through Windows Media Player.
Open it up, choose 'stream' from the menu and choose 'allow remote control of my player' and then it should work.
If it doesn't then you have to fiddle with the streaming settings in 'more streaming options'
is it possible to access shares in the network and make a share so other pc's can access this on the DHD?
I'm able to stream content to my ps3 over dlna. Not through the default application but twonky mobile. It works perfectly watching a 720p movie without any stutters.
brokensocialsteve said:
It all runs through Windows Media Player.
Open it up, choose 'stream' from the menu and choose 'allow remote control of my player' and then it should work.
If it doesn't then you have to fiddle with the streaming settings in 'more streaming options'
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i tried both but somehow the windows media player of win7 doesn't appear to be in my desire hd.
btw, i could see the video files of win7 but when i clicked any, i could only hear the sound but not the video screen. any idea?
endroidphone said:
i tried both but somehow the windows media player of win7 doesn't appear to be in my desire hd.
btw, i could see the video files of win7 but when i clicked any, i could only hear the sound but not the video screen. any idea?
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Check the file you are trying to stream. It has to be .mp4 with h264/aac encoding of the video/audio streams. The bitrate should also be reasonable (2000k works for sure)
You actually have different types of dlna devices : It depends of the capabilities of the sending device and the receiving device...
http://www.dlna.org/digital_living/how_it_works/

I'd like to buy a NAS Server for my transformer to use the DLNA capability, any idea

I'd like to stream all my content to my tablet/pc's/phones, I was going to buy a QNAP TS-110 but first I wanted to make sure it's compatible.
I don't care a bout a specific model if you have any hints let me know (about 100/150€), 2TB should be enough for me (mainly streaming music and tv series)
chtamina said:
I'd like to stream all my content to my tablet/pc's/phones, I was going to buy a QNAP TS-110 but first I wanted to make sure it's compatible.
I don't care a bout a specific model if you have any hints let me know (about 100/150€), 2TB should be enough for me (mainly streaming music and tv series)
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Any DLNA server should work
I use a buffalo NAS with UPnPlay + Moboplayer
HD Streaming works like crap over DLNA on this device for whatever reason.
If the device supports HTTP server, use that for HD streaming.
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liput_81 said:
Any DLNA server should work
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unfortunately this does not work properly (upnplay won't stream its content) that's why I was asking
I use mindlna with IMS from the market works great
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I am using LaCie Network Space MAX with UPnPlay + rockplayer and got no problems
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HD Streaming works like crap over DLNA on this device for whatever reason.
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I strongly disagree.
The stock DLNA client/renderer, MyNet, works very well for all the audio/video formats that the Android platform supports.
Transformer with UPnPlay + Moboplayer works great with my Synology NAS. But if you only use it to stream videos, this is a bit of an overkill.
As a great home NAS with DLNA bonus video streaming it works great
http://www.synology.com/products/product.php?product_name=DS411slim
chtamina said:
unfortunately this does not work properly (upnplay won't stream its content) that's why I was asking
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The one thing to consider with DLNA is which formats are configured on the host and which are allowed on the client.
My personal DLNA is my Win7 PC with an attached USB HDD. I can use this to stream any file to my TV or my TF. I have noticed some of the video titles not appearing on one or other device but this changes when using something like uPnPlay as the client.
Whatever DLNA NAS you get try the Skifta app, it seems to work well and lets you choose the video player on the Transformer. I have Moboplayer and Vplayer, sometimes one plays better than the other.
UPnPlay looks interesting, I'm going to give it a try. I fear that Skifta may charge once it's out of beta.
I am very interested in this subject and want to report my results, but do not know how to get DLNA working. Can someone describe how I can test my NAS's (ReadyNAS Pro) DLNA capabilities from my TF? What do I have to configure and what app(s) should I run.
I love my ReadyNAS Ultra 4 (upgraded from an older NV+). It will stream 720p just fine to my Samsung TV, 1080p is too choppy though. Pretty sure that's an issue with the TV, not the NAS.
I could have sworn I fiddled with streaming from the NAS to my Transformer using DLNA, but don't remember any of the details offhand.
If you get a new router that supports TOMATO with USB ports, you can attach a hard drive and stream movies directly from it using UPNPPLAy and MOBOplayer...
I'm running Tomato on the ASUS RT-16N router with a 500GB USB2.0 hard drive attached. It work great, I stream all my movies from there.
Best part: Low Power Consumption!
This one is compatible, and you can see HD content too
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=280
I use WD MYBOOKLIVE 1T. No problem there.
I can access all my media files even by just using the File Expert.
PandaVoyageur said:
Transformer with UPnPlay + Moboplayer works great with my Synology NAS. But if you only use it to stream videos, this is a bit of an overkill.
As a great home NAS with DLNA bonus video streaming it works great
http://www.synology.com/products/product.php?product_name=DS411slim
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I have had a synology Nas for a few years, they are hands down by far the best nas for home use on the market!!
Also if you use ES file explorer you dont need DLNA, you can stream media files directly from a file share!! The latest version was updated two days ago and it works great on both my phone and my tablet!
Brandon

Stream to WDTV Live Plus

I would like use my GT7510 to manage streaming content to my WDTV Live Plus. I can do some of what I would like to do now, by using Apps such as ZappoTV which allows me to send music, movies and photos stored on my PC to my AV Receiver. In order to make this happen, I have to use a media server such as TVersity. There are some limitations but basically this marriage works OK. I am hoping for something better.
I would really like to stream content from apps such as Pandora, AudioGalaxy, Google Music or even iTunes to my AV receiver without having to turn on my TV in order to access the WDTV UI. I have a projection TV that takes a few minutes to warm up so I would like to avoid this step if possible.
In a perfect world, I should be able to fire up my AV receiver, select the input assigned to WDTV box and send a stream that I can view or listen to in my GTab to my TV or stereo. Is this possible?
Bob
.. What are you hoping to do exactly? Your post is so unclear!
View content from your PC on your tablet?
View content from your WDTV on your tablet?
View content from your tablet on your WDTV?
Control your WDTV over your tablet?
"In a perfect world, I should be able to fire up my AV receiver [are you talking of another device, like a Satellite Receiver or Cable descrambler?], select the input assigned to WDTV box and send a stream [from the WDTV?] that I can view or listen to in my GTab [I understand the request, but shouldnt you be asking on a WDTV forum for an Android app? What does it have to do with the Tab? ] [wait, there's more; ] to my TV or stereo. Is this possible?"
From my understading this has nothing to do with the GTab; you are asking for WDTV device remote control support under Android OS (and much more, for that matter).
Go ask WD. And your AV receiver, TV, and stereo manufacturer as well...
wewewi999 said:
.. What are you hoping to do exactly? Your post is so unclear!
View content from your PC on your tablet?
View content from your WDTV on your tablet?
View content from your tablet on your WDTV?
Control your WDTV over your tablet?
"In a perfect world, I should be able to fire up my AV receiver [are you talking of another device, like a Satellite Receiver or Cable descrambler?], select the input assigned to WDTV box and send a stream [from the WDTV?] that I can view or listen to in my GTab [I understand the request, but shouldnt you be asking on a WDTV forum for an Android app? What does it have to do with the Tab? ] [wait, there's more; ] to my TV or stereo. Is this possible?"
From my understading this has nothing to do with the GTab; you are asking for WDTV device remote control support under Android OS (and much more, for that matter).
Go ask WD. And your AV receiver, TV, and stereo manufacturer as well...
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There are Android remotes that will control the WDTV. There are more functional apps such as ZappoTV that allow you to use an Android or IOS device to send music or video to the WDTV. The problem is that none of these apps have their own way of viewing the WDTV UI so the TV screen has to do the job. I just want more.
What I really want to be able to do is to somehow send whatever I can view or listen to on my Tab, to my WDTV and eventually to my stereo or TV. This includes the output from apps such as Pandora or Audiogalaxy. If I can get whatever Pandora is playing on my Tab to the WDTV, I can listen to or view it on my AV system. Basically, I am trying to eliminate the WDTV UI as a middleman and just send stuff from the Tab.
I am not a dev and have no idea how to write code but the logical side of my brain says that this should be possible. Hopefully there are some smart folks out there who can figure out how to get it done
Bob
Ok then no, its not possible.
What you are asking for is a wireless HDMI-like output.
..How do you think all these devices would get the feed, anyway? Can your TV/stereo stream stuff over wifi directly (UPnP/DLNA)? If it does, then yes, using a UPnP/DLNA server app, you can share content from the Tab to that device.
But you'll never be able to share/see an app output (well.. anything any Tab displays) without HDMI.
I think what you need is a simpler solution. Buy a good bluetooth audio receiver and connects it to your Stereo/pre-amp linein. Then connect your tablet/mobilephone to the BT receiver. Open up your favorite apps, e.g. Tunein, 2Player (can play music stored on your NAS or network drives).
I myself use Logitech BT audio receiver. it sounds great.
wewewi999 said:
... using a UPnP/DLNA server app, you can share content from the Tab to that device.
But you'll never be able to share/see an app output (well.. anything any Tab displays) without HDMI.
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Interesting. I've used Allshare and other DLNA apps to pull content from the network onto my Tab. I've never tried pulling anything OFF my tab to play on a TV or other Computer.
I'm pretty sure the WDTV can use DLNA to pull media from the network. I'm going to have to see if I can pull media from my Tab with it.
Your correct though that its a pull action and you can't PUSH media out to a device for viewing. At least as far as I know.
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Your correct though that its a pull action and you can't PUSH media out to a device for viewing. At least as far as I know.
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If you are talking about DLNA, a DMR (Digital Media Renderer) does exactly that. It receives "pushed" media from a DMC and plays it. The DMC itself gets the media from a DMS.
The tablet would be the DMC in that scenario. But I have no idea if the WDTV can act as a DMR or if it is just a DMP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Living_Network_Alliance
Home Network Devices:
Digital Media Server (DMS): These devices store content and make it available to networked digital media players (DMP) and digital media renderers (DMR). Examples include PCs and network-attached storage (NAS) devices.
Digital Media Player (DMP): These devices find content on digital media servers (DMS) and provide playback and rendering capabilities. Examples include TVs, stereos and home theaters, wireless monitors and game consoles.
Digital Media Renderer (DMR): These devices play content received from a digital media controller (DMC), which will find content from a digital media server (DMS). Examples include TVs, audio/video receivers, video displays and remote speakers for music.
Note: it is possible for a single device (e.g. TV, A/V receiver, etc) to function both as a DMR (receives "pushed" content from DMS) and DMP ("pulls" content from DMS)
Digital Media Controller (DMC): These devices find content on digital media servers (DMS) and play it on digital media renderers (DMR). Examples include Internet tablets, Wi-Fi enabled digital cameras and personal digital assistants (PDAs).
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gokpog said:
If you are talking about DLNA, a DMR (Digital Media Renderer) does exactly that. It receives "pushed" media from a DMC and plays it. The DMC itself gets the media from a DMS.
The tablet would be the DMC in that scenario. But I have no idea if the WDTV can act as a DMR or if it is just a DMP.
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Wow thats a great bit of interesting information. Thanks for digging that up.! :good:

Anyway to output to a TV

My Nexus 7 will be here tomorrow but I am disappointed there is no HDMI output like I saw in early photos. I use the port on my Acer to watch movies and view pictures on my TV while traveling. Does Google have any alternate way to do this even using DNLA? I can't find any information on it.
There is not. No HDMI or MHL.
Just, curious as I'm not a developer or programmer, but how hard would it be to make an app to make the N7 dlna or whatever so that we can at least stream to say a ps3 or xbox to watch content on a tv with it?
Possibly the mysterious 4 pin dock connector might be able to do this some day?
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I've already posted this a few times..
You can pick up an htc medialinkHD.
Go to the play store and search "medialink" Install an app called Wi-Fi Media by Cavium.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5iaWFub3IuYW1zY2F2aXVtIl0.
When you open the app, you can choose music or video that's stored on the device.
Then choose the medialink HD as the renderer.
This will not clone the display, you won't be able to play games with it or anything. But it will stream videos or music to the tv wirelessly.
regalpimpin said:
I've already posted this a few times..
You can pick up an htc medialinkHD.
Go to the play store and search "medialink" Install an app called Wi-Fi Media by Cavium.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5iaWFub3IuYW1zY2F2aXVtIl0.
When you open the app, you can choose music or video that's stored on the device.
Then choose the medialink HD as the renderer.
This will not clone the display, you won't be able to play games with it or anything. But it will stream videos or music to the tv wirelessly.
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Or wait for VLC to update their app on the Play Store. Works perfectly for music, video, and pictures. Basically it's an Airplay-type functionality that works with any computer running VLC. For those of us that have a PC plugged into the TV it's an awesome tool. I can play any media on the device directly on the TV at full resolution, control how it all plays, and even maximize the display. If they update the VLC app for JellyBean I'd be in love!
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Or wait for VLC to update their app on the Play Store. Works perfectly for music, video, and pictures. Basically it's an Airplay-type functionality that works with any computer running VLC. For those of us that have a PC plugged into the TV it's an awesome tool. I can play any media on the device directly on the TV at full resolution, control how it all plays, and even maximize the display. If they update the VLC app for JellyBean I'd be in love!
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Yes, that works to. There are other apps that would work with a ps3 or xbox as well.
The only reason I say to use a medialink is because it's portable. If you're traveling on business it's a little hard to tote around a HTPC, or a ps3 to use in your hotel room. But something that's the size of a business card, and about a half inch thick.. No problem.
But, is there no way for this to be worked into a kernel at any point in the future?
I know they figured it out with Team Win's app for the Evo 4G a long while ago...
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Yes, that works to. There are other apps that would work with a ps3 or xbox as well.
The only reason I say to use a medialink is because it's portable. If you're traveling on business it's a little hard to tote around a HTPC, or a ps3 to use in your hotel room. But something that's the size of a business card, and about a half inch thick.. No problem.
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I have 3 kids and when we travel I use pbo core media box with a 500gb drive along with 2 headrest monitors in the car. The core is about the size of two sandwiches and is very light. Besides carrying a whole library of stuff it can connect to any TV and play any format. It supports upnp as well so with a small router everyone can stream to the device wirelessly.
I used to use a tablet and convert videos,etc...no more of that. I find cloud services, plex, splash top, etc...more an enough for 99% of my tablet viewing.
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If you have XBMC use Air Play Free. Works great on XBMC
so wait...how did Google output the nexus 7 on the big screen at their I/O conference? surely there must be a way...
There's an app called aVia that enables dlna on the nexus 7. Presumably u can have the ps3/Xbox scan for it & stream content. Haven't used the app for that purpose but I know enabling dlna is an option in the settings. I can try & report back if anyone's interested
habz1234 said:
so wait...how did Google output the nexus 7 on the big screen at their I/O conference? surely there must be a way...
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It has been speculated that the units Google demo'd were modified units to allow for the screen mirroring. In one of the other threads on the HDMI/MHL subject someone posted a link to an article that had pictures of a Nexus 7 with an HDMI port on the bottom left side.
Edit to add: Here is the picture, from The Verge.
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Trying to get my xbox to see avia as we speak. Xbox is modded so hope they dont fix it
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I was able to get it to see the N7 as a media server but I don't have movies on it yet. Let me know if you are able to stream. Like I said, I don't really use it for this purpose because I have Plex on my WHS2011 box, but could be cool when traveling to family/friend's houses that have either.
It works through my samsung bluray but not my xbox. However, My movie extension was not compatible. Will try another.
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Just curious but is anyone able to stream from the Nexus7 with a USB Flash Drive plugged in and navigable to a ps3 or other device?

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