A few days ago we informed readers that an Android 4.3 update that included some bug fixes was about to start rolling out for the Sony Xperia SP. French carrier SFR had announced that the firmware update to build 12.1.A.1.192 had been approved and would start rolling out later that day. This gave hope that the update would also arrive soon for other regions, but now the same carrier has confirmed that this Xperia SP update has been delayed.
This latest update will bring performance and stability improvements and it was hoped that it would also fix bugs from an earlier Android 4.3 update. Sadly the update failed to arrive as stated by SFR, and the carrier has now clarified the situation, saying that Sony has delayed the release by a month, pushing it back from March 21 to April 21. This is said to be because of an issue that Sony has identified.
At this stage we have no way of knowing whether the same update will eventually arrive or whether a new update will be certified, but we’ll be keeping a close eye on this and will keep you informed. We also recently reported on a petition that had been started to bring Android 4.4 to the Xperia SP, but this news about the latest 4.3 firmware update is bound to frustrate many Sony Xperia SP owners, especially those still plagued with problems from the earlier update.
Source: SFR
Not surprising...
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AH.....Happens all the time.. Not a biig deal!!
Well, if Sony has found some issues from upgrade it's better test it through than just release another buggy one.
Bazilli said:
Well, if Sony has found some issues from upgrade it's better test it through than just release another buggy one.
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They are talking about a "FOTA" issue, Or at least that was what I read earlier
i think new version will be certified soon...
I think the carrier made a mistake between .166 and .192 . I have already heard about this carrier releasing updates long after official update. I think the one they were talking about was just the update from 4.1 to 4.3 ( I read the official post in French and it looked more like this )
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as long as they give us a bug free update, they can take as long as they need
selmane24 said:
A few days ago we informed readers that an Android 4.3 update that included some bug fixes was about to start rolling out for the Sony Xperia SP. French carrier SFR had announced that the firmware update to build 12.1.A.1.192 had been approved and would start rolling out later that day. This gave hope that the update would also arrive soon for other regions, but now the same carrier has confirmed that this Xperia SP update has been delayed.
This latest update will bring performance and stability improvements and it was hoped that it would also fix bugs from an earlier Android 4.3 update. Sadly the update failed to arrive as stated by SFR, and the carrier has now clarified the situation, saying that Sony has delayed the release by a month, pushing it back from March 21 to April 21. This is said to be because of an issue that Sony has identified.
At this stage we have no way of knowing whether the same update will eventually arrive or whether a new update will be certified, but we’ll be keeping a close eye on this and will keep you informed. We also recently reported on a petition that had been started to bring Android 4.4 to the Xperia SP, but this news about the latest 4.3 firmware update is bound to frustrate many Sony Xperia SP owners, especially those still plagued with problems from the earlier update.
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... At least flickering have to be fixed in this delay.. :/
Oh man, first of all the first update was released too soon because they knew they were behind so they tried to repay or delay further anger of their users by releasing if earlier. And now this new update that should finally work properly will be released god knows when.
I've been on 4.1 for 3 years now, before SP on my former xperia. In a year from now I'm a getting a new phone because the contract allows me that. So basically I can only hope to play with my SP 4.3 for less than a year which is really sad, and I regret my decision chosing it. To me the android version is all there is to phones nowadays, they are just displays running software..
/rant finished
another month of sh*t with .266
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another month of sh*t with .266
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Yes ... Sony makes good smartphones but they break with their updates and abandon when they are so bugged that even they do not know what to do...
Drakomord said:
Yes ... Sony makes good smartphones but they break with their updates and abandon when they are so bugged that even they do not know what to do...
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thats why samsung is 10 times better and is 1st on android mobile sales... but lets keep our rage and wait for update... and the w8 for kit kat (but i think they will never give us kitkat)
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thats why samsung is 10 times better and is 1st on android mobile sales... but lets keep our rage and wait for update... and the w8 for kit kat (but i think they will never give us kitkat)
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Thank you for your very constructive comment.
But, I don't like Samsung, because their design and plastic Samsung is not my thing...
No doubt that Samsung makes better phones, but my heart beats for those of Sony.
Despite the problem of the updates, the rest is very good.
Sony him, has a very sober and simple purist modern design. And he keeps the aspect of Android AOSP with the touch of Sony. :angel:
Touchwiz is so... gayfriendly. Seriously, for my part.
I don't care of 4.4. If Sony can make the better 4.3 for the Xperia SP. I can skip KitKat. And if a day I want 4.4 for my Xperia SP, custom ROMs is here for that ! :good:
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Thank you for your very constructive comment.
But, I don't like Samsung, because their design and plastic Samsung is not my thing...
No doubt that Samsung makes better phones, but my heart beats for those of Sony.
Despite the problem of the updates, the rest is very good.
Sony him, has a very sober and simple purist modern design. And he keeps the aspect of Android AOSP with the touch of Sony. :angel:
Touchwiz is so... gayfriendly. Seriously, for my part.
I don't care of 4.4. If Sony can make the better 4.3 for the Xperia SP. I can skip KitKat. And if a day I want 4.4 for my Xperia SP, custom ROMs is here for that ! :good:
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exactly! I dont like samsung for design to.. i was always ericsson> sony ericsson> sony.. btw i think 4.4 will give 25k antutu as it will improve performance a lot .. ofc i will be ok with a bug-free 4.3 .. till then im happy with xperia pureness 4.1.2 and doomkernel v4.. smooth and perfect in everything it makes me love my sp! i can play asphalt 8 with max graphics without a spike..
because You are fanboys... Sony peeing on you and you pretend that it is raining
I don't care about 4.4, only i need a stable 4.3 ROM.
And yes i am hardcore fan of Sony
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exactly! I dont like samsung for design to.. i was always ericsson> sony ericsson> sony.. btw i think 4.4 will give 25k antutu as it will improve performance a lot .. ofc i will be ok with a bug-free 4.3 .. till then im happy with xperia pureness 4.1.2 and doomkernel v4.. smooth and perfect in everything it makes me love my sp! i can play asphalt 8 with max graphics without a spike..
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i don't thnik that 4.4 will give 25k antutu score i tested many 4.4 cm based roms and none of them got higher than 23k
bago23 said:
i don't thnik that 4.4 will give 25k antutu score i tested many 4.4 cm based roms and none of them got higher than 23k
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i said that cause stock 4.1.2 gives me 21- 21.5 antutu.. official 4.3 gives me 23 - 23.500 (rooted with many apps closed and flickering bug ofc).. and there is no official 4.4 yet.. i think official kernel will do the job.. idk maybe im wrong
Firmware needed
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i said that cause stock 4.1.2 gives me 21- 21.5 antutu.. official 4.3 gives me 23 - 23.500 (rooted with many apps closed and flickering bug ofc).. and there is no official 4.4 yet.. i think official kernel will do the job.. idk maybe im wrong
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Kit Kat in Z1 gives lower results than 4.3, but overhall performance is way smoother =)
Btw, I bought a SP, unbranded, currently with 4.3 Global, I wonder, could you create a .ftf of 4.3 unbranded PT, or the previous firmware, if it has less bugs??
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Sony delayed the roll-out of ics for our devices :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/30/sony-delays-xperia-android-4-0-ics-update-now-starting-from-mid-april/
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Sony delayed the roll-out of ics for our devices :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/30/sony-delays-xperia-android-4-0-ics-update-now-starting-from-mid-april/
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Ohhh....It was a bad news...
OMG! checking update every morning ( now it's delayed
People need to get a grip. It was always going to be end March/begining April for those handsets, it's been moved a a WHOLE 2 WEEKS...
What is wrong with people??? They should be happy they are getting their ICS in two weeks from now, rather than crying into their milk.
I totaly agree with you. Mind you I don't mind I'm already on ICS as of this morning for my Xperia Arc
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People need to get a grip. It was always going to be end March/begining April for those handsets, it's been moved a a WHOLE 2 WEEKS...
What is wrong with people??? They should be happy they are getting their ICS in two weeks from now, rather than crying into their milk.
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People need to get a grip. It was always going to be end March/begining April for those handsets, it's been moved a a WHOLE 2 WEEKS...
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Only for three out of the eleven handsets. The rest have a month delay - that is not insignificant.
For sure someone would make a patch to use arc s ics update to arc.
Mid-April it is.
Oh no, please not this again. I had this over at the Asus Transformer thread and some of the comments people left just stunned me. Luckily so far these forums seem much more forgiving!
Here's the way I see it, firstly, 2 weeks is nothing. The update is coming, that's grand. 2 weeks wait is fine, you won't even notice.
Secondly, the phones work just fine with GB. There's no big bugs, everything works swimmingly. ICS will bring some tastey new features, and that's great, but I think we should accept a delay for extra features on top of some already pretty brilliant phones.
I can only sit here and hope that the Arc community is more forgiving than the TF forum. Obviously not everyone was bad, but there was a LOT of very angry posts over there, and every single one made me facepalm in the name of extreme first world problems.
I'm looking forward to the update, and I'm sure the wait will fly by
must say i find it quite bizarre with the bells and whistles of the new Xperia S, that it it the last in line for the update. Quite odd. If i was Sony trying to push people to buy it, i would give it the update first.
I just want it to be ICS 4.0.4
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I hope sony release ICS ROM with clear bass
End May or early June for Xperia Arc --> bye bye Sony for me
X10 times are back, at the end it will come in 6 months.
Be ashamed Sony!
I'm pissed because Sony said the want to keep up with updates, at first they did that.
But then they stopped at 2.3.4 and even 120€ 600MHz Samsung devices are on 2.3.6.
Then they said that they won't update the kernel to 3.0 to oush it out faster.
Samsung and HTC did update the kernel to 3.0 and are pushing out 4.0 already!
kuya
maganda ba ang ics 4 dude...?
well
i tried the ICS beta ROMS
all of them are buggy in terms of gaming performance, almost all games are laggy, random blank screen would show up, etc.
also all 2011 xperia devices has very few RAM and i feel it's not enough on ICS, even music player+whatsapp would cause the launcher to redraw (even it's supercharged= =).
so I think Sony has to do more tweaks and programming before they roll out the updates, if they have talented engineer
and Sony also says ICS “may impact performance in some user scenarios” OMG Sony you should have given the devices more RAM.
but.. end of May to early June.. I am pissed off.
I still don't understand why arc s, ray and neo v can update first.. anyway, i will think these 3 phones are bug-testers
People have always said that ICS came between 15marts - 15 april for Arc S?
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End May or early June for Xperia Arc --> bye bye Sony for me
X10 times are back, at the end it will come in 6 months.
Be ashamed Sony!
I'm pissed because Sony said the want to keep up with updates, at first they did that.
But then they stopped at 2.3.4 and even 120€ 600MHz Samsung devices are on 2.3.6.
Then they said that they won't update the kernel to 3.0 to oush it out faster.
Samsung and HTC did update the kernel to 3.0 and are pushing out 4.0 already!
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Dude, just flash LT18's ftf when it's available.
EDIT: Samsung's firmwares are not as good as Sony/SE's, trust me. On the other hand, HTC's are as solid as ours.
Yeah, I know that and I'll do that. But anyways, they shouldn't forget the Arc.
And normal users won't flash other firmwares on their devices, which will make these guys angry
I hope we'll see arconium on official ICS, too
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I find it incredible that someone smart enough to buy and xperia is too stupid too seriously that the other handsets dates haven't moved, they were never first in lime to get them. The only need here is the first batch are delays by a whole 14 days. Not big deal. I'm happy to have news, we should be thanking Sony for keeping us informed rather than *****ing about thingd
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nice april fool prank sony ! i almost fell for it
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I hope sony release ICS ROM with clear bass
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The beta rom(s) had it
squalldua said:
nice april fool prank sony ! i almost fell for it
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I hope so !!
From my sexy LT15i
Last week you probably saw Google announce Android version 4.4; Kit Kat…
We’ve seen lots of questions on our Android upgrade roadmap and equally, we have lots to tell you, so here’s a note on just that…
First up, Jelly Bean 4.3
We’re pleased to tell you that we’ll start rolling Android 4.3 for Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1 from next month*.
We also mentioned that a few of our products would be jumping software version – so, we can confirm that Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V* will be upgraded to Android Jelly Bean 4.3… also from next month.
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
SOURCE - http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11/07/on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4/
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UPDATE -
KitKat firmware (14.3.A.0.681) certified for Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z1 Compact
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2686232
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UPDATE 2 -
Android 4.4; KitKat, rolls for Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z1 Compact
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/03...eria-z-ultra-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z1-compact/
Lets hope to be true, its not hard for that, Android of Sony is very clean.
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I kinda doubt this. android 4.4 should be announced by google later this months, then it is highly unlikely that sony would be able to release it for the Z1 on the 7th of November. But I really wish they can, I even wish they skip 4.3 and focus on 4.4, if we can get it before the end of this year then hell yeah
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I kinda doubt this. android 4.4 should be announced by google later this months, then it is highly unlikely that sony would be able to release it for the Z1 on the 7th of November. But I really wish they can, I even wish they skip 4.3 and focus on 4.4, if we can get it before the end of this year then hell yeah
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i think this is very possible... google usually releases the source codes to manufacturers weeks before they officially lunch a new version...
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I kinda doubt this. android 4.4 should be announced by google later this months, then it is highly unlikely that sony would be able to release it for the Z1 on the 7th of November. But I really wish they can, I even wish they skip 4.3 and focus on 4.4, if we can get it before the end of this year then hell yeah
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fyi kitkat is already announced and it is going to be released later this month.
manufacturers gets source code before official launch as the guy above me said.
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i think this is very possible... google usually releases the source codes to manufacturers weeks before they officially lunch a new version...
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fyi kitkat is already announced and it is going to be released later this month.
manufacturers gets source code before official launch as the guy above me said.
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I know that this is the case, but this has been the case so long ago (not with android 4.4), yet manufacturers take months before releasing the updates. 4.3 rolled out months ago but you could barely find phones already have 4.3 (apart from note 3 and HTC one) even the SGS4 which used to get updates before anyone else didn't get it yet UNLESS manufacturers already decided to skip 4.3 and focused to get 4.4 faster.
Again I really wish that Sony release 4.4 in November or even earlier (I am not against that, I have the Z1 myself) but as I said before it is highly unlikely.
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I know that this is the case, but this has been the case so long ago (not with android 4.4), yet manufacturers take months before releasing the updates. 4.3 rolled out months ago but you could barely find phones already have 4.3 (apart from note 3 and HTC one) even the SGS4 which used to get updates before anyone else didn't get it yet UNLESS manufacturers already decided to skip 4.3 and focused to get 4.4 faster.
Again I really wish that Sony release 4.4 in November or even earlier (I am not against that, I have the Z1 myself) but as I said before it is highly unlikely.
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what you say is true but I guess the chasing pack (HTC, LG, Sony) are maybe just realizing the importance of timely updates (that probably was a factor in Samsung's ascendance. HTC lost the android crown because it just lost lots of loyal customers who never saw any updates). Since Hardware is more or less commoditized already, the turf wars are gonna be fought on Software front. Faster updates could be USP and Sony might want to claim bragging rights (porting might be easier/faster for Sony as they are almost stock anyway!
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what you say is true but I guess the chasing pack (HTC, LG, Sony) are maybe just realizing the importance of timely updates (that probably was a factor in Samsung's ascendance. HTC lost the android crown because it just lost lots of loyal customers who never saw any updates). Since Hardware is more or less commoditized already, the turf wars are gonna be fought on Software front. Faster updates could be USP and Sony might want to claim bragging rights (porting might be easier/faster for Sony as they are almost stock anyway!
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I totally agree with you. Sony said they will release faster updates. Sony has advantage here because of the light skin but this is not the only thing, actually it is the least time consuming thing because it doesn't need much optimization and testing, at the end it is mostly an app that you can install to change how the phone look. The problem is to get it to work along with all the features with THIS SPECIFIC DEVICE, they need to test how the software would perform in THIS hardware (mainly chipset and screen and other things). And here is the bigger advantage of the Z1 as it uses the same chip and screen resolution as the nexus 5 (according to rumors), this will definitely help sony to release the new android versions much faster to the Z1 as it will already be optimized and tested. but again I doubt they will release it two weeks after the release of the 4.4 to the nexus devices but I still hope they will.
Guys, have a look here
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/10/09/android-4-4-kitkat-is-not-hitting-the-xperia-z1-in-november/
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Guys, have a look here
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/10/09/android-4-4-kitkat-is-not-hitting-the-xperia-z1-in-november/
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They don't list any sources either, as far as I am concerned neither "presumption" is correct, OEM's get new android versions months before there even announced so Sony may very well be cooking up Kitkat ready for November.
I don't believe it, if anything I'd expect a 4.3 release in November and a 4.4 in early 2014 hopefully.
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They don't list any sources either, as far as I am concerned neither "presumption" is correct, OEM's get new android versions months before there even announced so Sony may very well be cooking up Kitkat ready for November.
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If they were, it's time we built a monument for Sony
Highly unlikely.. But if it happened to be the case, Sony deserves a lot of credit. In my opinion they receive too little credit for their contributions to AOSP. But that's another matter
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Possibly. Google said they want kit Kat for everyone.
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This is getting old, but anyway here it is again...
Just look at Sony´s smartphone and firmware history m8´s, and you will see that this is never going to happen...
- we are lucky to recive 4.3 in late Q1 or perhaps Q2 of 2014, and after that the Z1 will be abandoned...
IF the rumor really WAS true, Sony would have turned 180 degrees in their business strategy... (and that is not likely, is it now ??)
Becource sony has actually acted that way for years now, at least since Xperia X10...
Sony is in this marked for the money, nothing else...
That is also why the Z1 was shipped with 4.2.2, and NOT 4.3 from the beginning...
- this way Sony can meet Googles demands on major updates, without actually giving YOU anything new...
Just think for 2 sec, about this:
WHY would Sony release a new flagship like the Z1 with only 4.2.2, when it would be just as mutch work for them to release it with the current 4.3 ??
This is also not new for Sony, the X10 was shipped with 1.6...
Sony is NOT stupid, the history repeats it self over and over, and we buy the products anyway...
BTW other Sony "feature" is these:
DON`T be suppriced to find that the Z and other phones is going to get the 4.3 before the Z1, that is actually also normal sony behavior.
DON´T be suppriced if you at last, one day finally will get 4.4 anyway (Q4 2014), that there will be features missing in the new version, that also is normal sony behavior.
The rumours come from a pretty unreliable source, so I'm not basing any of my analysis on that. Rather based on how close Sonys UI is to AOSP, porting it to 4.3 or 4.4 seems more trivial than it would for HTC or Samsung, considering their much larger deviations from AOSP. But ultimately only time will tell.
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WHY would Sony release a new flagship like the Z1 with only 4.2.2, when it would be just as mutch work for them to release it with the current 4.3 ??
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Because they've been working on the Z1 for longer than 4.3 has been available and wanted to beat the other manufacturers to market with an S800 phone (note that the LG G2 also shipped with 4.2.2 and is the only other phone with an S800 CPU), there literally is no other plausible explanation, stop being such a downer man. Ultimately 4.2.2/4.3/4.4 doesn't make any difference at all to the average consumer, and in fact, Sony might actually provide a better user experience by sticking to 4.2.2 until the bugs have been ironed out of the new major versions.
They will likely have had a team working on porting their UI to 4.3/4.4 while developing the Xperia Z1, they are just not ready yet.
Maybe you guys dont use to Sony?
Just relax and don't put high hope on update.....(xperia S and TX owner here waiting Z1)
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The only for reason for 4.2.2 in Z1, is to claim the amount of major updates without actually give us anything new...
- as i said Sony is NOT stupid, they are in this marked to earn money, nothing else...
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Stop being so gullible man.
Rekoil said:
Ultimately 4.2.2/4.3/4.4 doesn't make any difference at all to the average consumer, and in fact, Sony might actually provide a better user experience by sticking to 4.2.2 until the bugs have been ironed out of the new major versions.
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THIS IS FUNNY !
This is actually allmost exactly what S/E responded back in the X10 days, when people was on 1.6, waiting allmost a year for 2.1...
- are you shure you dont Work for them ??
4.3 would give new features, and equally importent, it would let Sony be in the android lead for once, but then they have to give you, at least, also 4.4, and Sony don´t want to do that...
- it is better for Sony´s economy, if we all buy a new phone in a year instead...
But DON`T belive me, PLEACE DONT !
Just read the Sony and S/E history instead, and form your oppinion from that...
- then lets talk...
Dont get me wrong, Sony make fantasic smartphones, i love my sony phones...
Sony just dont update them as mutch as you would expect, and for a good reason...
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The only for reason for 4.2.2 in Z1, is to claim the amount of major updates without actually give us anything new...
- as i said Sony is NOT stupid, they are in this marked to earn money, nothing else...
Stop being so gullible man.
THIS IS FUNNY !
This is actually allmost exactly what S/E responded back in the X10 days, when people was on 1.6, waiting allmost a year for 2.1...
- are you shure you dont Work for them ??
4.3 would give new features, and equally importent, it would let Sony be in the android lead for once, but then they have to give you, at least, also 4.4, and Sony don´t want to do that...
- it is better for Sony´s economy, if we all buy a new phone in a year instead...
But DON`T belive me, PLEACE DONT !
Just read the Sony and S/E history instead, and form your oppinion from that...
- then lets talk...
Dont get me wrong, Sony make fantasic smartphones, i love my sony phones...
Sony just dont update them as mutch as you would expect, and for a good reason...
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I don't work for them, and excuse me for potentially being naïve, I'm just saying there have been large changes to the inner workings of Sony recently (look up Kaz Hirais One Sony initiative), nothing is impossible!
pshdo said:
This is getting old, but anyway here it is again...
Just look at Sony´s smartphone and firmware history m8´s, and you will see that this is never going to happen...
- we are lucky to recive 4.3 in late Q1 or perhaps Q2 of 2014, and after that the Z1 will be abandoned...
IF the rumor really WAS true, Sony would have turned 180 degrees in their business strategy... (and that is not likely, is it now ??)
Becource sony has actually acted that way for years now, at least since Xperia X10...
Sony is in this marked for the money, nothing else...
That is also why the Z1 was shipped with 4.2.2, and NOT 4.3 from the beginning...
- this way Sony can meet Googles demands on major updates, without actually giving YOU anything new...
Just think for 2 sec, about this:
WHY would Sony release a new flagship like the Z1 with only 4.2.2, when it would be just as mutch work for them to release it with the current 4.3 ??
This is also not new for Sony, the X10 was shipped with 1.6...
Sony is NOT stupid, the history repeats it self over and over, and we buy the products anyway...
BTW other Sony "feature" is these:
DON`T be suppriced to find that the Z and other phones is going to get the 4.3 before the Z1, that is actually also normal sony behavior.
DON´T be suppriced if you at last, one day finally will get 4.4 anyway (Q4 2014), that there will be features missing in the new version, that also is normal sony behavior.
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LOL such a doubter... and it is surprised not suppriced ...
ok let us take a look at Sony's Firmware history:
1. Xperia S(March 2012) launched with GB installed, they released ICS (4.0.4) update around may-june 2012 as promised, then release jellyean 1 year later (may-june 2013)... They actually have released a leaked version earlier at around April 2013 (build .200) so developers can start developing with the jellybean firmware... that is very timely... as expected, they will stop here as Qualcom has stopped supporting the chipset installed in Xperia S... no surprise there.
2. Xperia Z(February 2013) was released with Jelly bean 4.1.2... and then released 4.2.2 mid this year... they also promised 4.3 upgrade around Dec or January...
now lets take a look at Google's release cycle:
ICS 4.0.4 is release on 29 March 2012
JB 4.1.2 is released Oct 2012
JB 4.2.2 is only released Feb 2013
As you can see, Sony has an orderly version release cycle... and they always deliver on their promises... and as you can see after Sony releases a new product, they upgrade it to the latest version 3-4 months later... they are also known to skip versions... (they skipped ICS 4.0.3 and went to 4.0.4)
how much you wanna bet they will release 4.4 on or before Q1 2014?
What is it going to bring?
hopefully camera improvements, this (at least for me) is the main area that needs further improvements. we also need white balance and the ability to move apps to the SD.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/12/2...4-certified-for-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z-ultra/
I was amazed too! I guess it will be bug fixes, which we need.
Camera improvements too! I mean, you can take great photos with Manual, but you'll need time to set it up.
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ahomad said:
What is it going to bring?
hopefully camera improvements, this (at least for me) is the main area that needs further improvements. we also need white balance and the ability to move apps to the SD.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/12/2...4-certified-for-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z-ultra/
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White Balance definitely will be in next update.
May be we'll have better RAM management, fix some issues of previous firmware.
We have to wait til beginning of Jan to get this update.
Btw, someone in XDA have posted the way Sony named for Xperia's firmware. I don't remember, can someone re-post it please.
Wow Sony is really not slacking with their updates now!
How long did it take from when .290 got certified to it got released again?
I think we will see this update out early January
zionnomonus said:
Wow Sony is really not slacking with their updates now!
How long did it take from when .290 got certified to it got released again?
I think we will see this update out early January
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Well this might be the update that was mentioned by a Sony representative from a Sony forum that will be rolled out of the first few days of January next year and if this is it then it will include the White Balance setting. And that'd be the answer to our prayers who's suffering the yellow hue. Yay!:fingers-crossed:
4.4? I'm still waiting on the 290 update :laugh:
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Wow Sony is really not slacking with their updates now!
How long did it take from when .290 got certified to it got released again?
I think we will see this update out early January
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7 days
hopefully this improves z1's camera cuz im about to buy qx10 and 100 and make my baby a beast!
zionnomonus said:
Wow Sony is really not slacking with their updates now!
How long did it take from when .290 got certified to it got released again?
I think we will see this update out early January
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7 days, the same goes for the Xperia Z firmware (certified then released after 7 days) so we might see this early January as everyone said
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4.4? I'm still waiting on the 290 update :laugh:
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this isn't 4.4, neither it is just a minor bug fixes. I am not expecting a big list of additional features but we might see quite good number of bug fixes and few additional features (white balance) and some improvements because the build number is quite different from what we have. just like .257 update.
One thread was already closed few days ago when someone show up with a new Firmware update which should fix all the problems with the Z1. I really hope this one will be confirmed soon as I waiting for that. The number 1 is the most important thing that mean huge improvements and changes between 14.2.X.0.XXX and 14.2.X.1.XXX.
actually, this can be a decent update, the one that just came out was maybe tested and created as a core android 4.3 with same features and functionality across for Z1, Zu and Z phones. This upcoming update is probably ZU and Z1 both newer and S800 specific update with extra features. Could be why we still havent gotten an offical change log because they are still rolling out 4.3 for Z phones and probably update the change log together with this firmware for Z1. Who knows.
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One thread was already closed few days ago when someone show up with a new Firmware update which should fix all the problems with the Z1. I really hope this one will be confirmed soon as I waiting for that. The number 1 is the most important thing that mean huge improvements and changes between 14.2.X.0.XXX and 14.2.X.1.XXX.
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yes it was me bro who posted that info about 14.2.A.1.XXX here and http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/12/20/xperia-z1-z-ultra-14-2-1-xxx-firmware-bug-fixing-update-coming-soon/see it is now certified Will post the changelog of this update soon.
Or it won't be out at all...
Not all certified firmwares goes out and not every firmware is meant to be for each region.
I hope I'm wrong but I think it's just a test release.
It's a way to early to fix firmware which was released few days ago and it's not on all (or on majority) devices
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Would make sense for the white balance app to arrive in this mew update, and perhaps it might also come with the 20MP superior auto for all variants. Personally would like to see a noise reduction on the 20MP manual.
Battery life fix and close all recent apps hutton. Move to SD Finally Camera improvements
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Thats what I want anx need
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nxkr said:
Battery life fix and close all recent apps hutton. Move to SD Finally Camera improvements
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This are christmas wishes or is it real?
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Or it won't be out at all...
Not all certified firmwares goes out and not every firmware is meant to be for each region.
I hope I'm wrong but I think it's just a test release.
It's a way to early to fix firmware which was released few days ago and it's not on all (or on majority) devices
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yes at present it is in testing but a firmware with 14.2.A.1.XXX will come soon either the same build certified or a higher one. ( hopefully by end of this year on in early week of JAn 2014 ).
Or if you've bought an unbranded one in UK you probably won't get it before your next new phone purchase. Never known an update take so long for sim free phones.
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if you guys got the japanese one, the new firmware gives white balance option and some tweak to the battery save menu.
Nothing much else though.
also still not 4.3
Just hope this version will bring the bugs fix and also the 4.4 KitKat
Sony rolled out android 5.1.1 for the Z2 and Z3 a while back and said other devices would get it in the following weeks! It's been awhile now and they didn't even certify a new build yet :/ I'm starting to think Sony is going to say that 2gb of ram is not enough to run the latest android
When do you guys think it's coming?
Are you waiting for the update or are you happy with the os right now?
i am really getting annoyned with the ram management if they wont update it , atleast fix the memory management e.e
Yes agreed. My phone has become barely usable because of that ****ty memory management in 5.0.2. They should really move on to 5.1.1 because that's ruined for too long now. What fears me though is that the new version is still not published on PTCRB which means it won't be available in the next two weeks... We will have to wait somewhere in September probably.
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Yes agreed. My phone has become barely usable because of that ****ty memory management in 5.0.2. They should really move on to 5.1.1 because that's ruined for too long now. What fears me though is that the new version is still not published on PTCRB which means it won't be available in the next two weeks... We will have to wait somewhere in September probably.
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when android M is relased , the software will be published on PTCRB
when android N Preview is relased , sony MAY relase android 5.1.1 for us
They promised to release 5.1.1 soon so let's see if that comes before the end of September.
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They promised to release 5.1.1 soon so let's see if that comes before the end of September.
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It hasnt been certified yet , usualy the update comes after 2 weeks after certification.
Xperia z1 will be another fail just like xperia sp
Since launch it still has bad multitasking
And sony will discontinue it's update cycle along with the original xperia z
So i think z1 z1c zu z and zr wont get the taste of android M imo
, they said they would release it the following weeks after z2 update, not the following month/s
Yeah, 5.1 was a let down on other devices, will not be any different with the Z1. Looking for a long battery life and fast ROM based on 4.4.4. Already went back on my other devices.
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Probably will stick with fxp if the Z1 won't get the M . i've seen mods that allows you tu use 4k and other camera features from the stock rom on cm and other aosp rom so i will not loose great things going to fxp or cm :lol:
Gamer4Life said:
Xperia z1 will be another fail just like xperia sp
Since launch it still has bad multitasking
And sony will discontinue it's update cycle along with the original xperia z
So i think z1 z1c zu z and zr wont get the taste of android M imo
, they said they would release it the following weeks after z2 update, not the following month/s
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If sony releases M late, the Z2 isn't getting it either lol
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Sony Will Release 5.1.1 for z1 this week . Maybe tomorrow !
Farsiris said:
Sony Will Release 5.1.1 for z1 this week . Maybe tomorrow !
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What's your source? As it is not yet on PTCRB there's no way it is going to be released this week.
actually i think and hope that they delayed the 5.1.1 to include the stagefright patch in the next update
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Sony Will Release 5.1.1 for z1 this week . Maybe tomorrow !
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It is live right now. Anyway a lot of users have problems with 5.1.1 on z3 so maybe Sony will fix them that's why it is taking so long.
ptoner said:
Yeah, 5.1 was a let down on other devices, will not be any different with the Z1. Looking for a long battery life and fast ROM based on 4.4.4. Already went back on my other devices.
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Eh noop. On nexus 5 the 5.1 is awsome!
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Maybe this month
NexusGTS said:
It is live right now. Anyway a lot of users have problems with 5.1.1 on z3 so maybe Sony will fix them that's why it is taking so long.
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Where have you seen the 5.1 ftf for Z1?
guys
you can easily fix memory management problem
use kernel adiutor and go to Low Memory Manager Killer and change numbers to lower Values.
Snaqejack said:
Where have you seen the 5.1 ftf for Z1?
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Sarcasm my friend
SamadiPour said:
guys
you can easily fix memory management problem
use kernel adiutor and go to Low Memory Manager Killer and change numbers to lower Values.
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Changing LMK is not enough unfortunately. That's not a matter of LMK.
Ok guys, since we're all waiting in here, seemed like a good idea to start this thread... If anyone has any 'good' news they'd like to share about the update, please do so here
Also, when the update is out, would be cool to have everyone post their comments and experiences in this thread, keeping it tight!
At this point, we don't seem to have anything set in stone on when this update is coming, I'm just hoping on a couple of good fixes with the update, like the auto brightness issue, camera optimisations, smoothness/lag issues etc..
What do you guys hope to get to see in the new update?
I hope it wont take long.
Misleading title
I'm kinda happy with my Z5 so far (I encounter bugs and issues here and there though). I'm a little bit less impressed with Sony when it comes to fixing bugs and releasing updates.
Mashmallow release date: October 5, 2015
October... November... December... 1/2 January... still no release date. I'm not talking about the actual ROM, just about a release date... (January? February?)
And I'm pretty sure they received the Marshmallow sources way before October 5th and they use a pretty-near stock ROM. What's taking so long compared to, for example, Motorola or LG (already on Marshmallow)? I mean, yeah the KitKat -> Lollipop transition was pretty steep, with a lot of new code, but Marshmallow and Lollipop are close cousins, use the same design, ART runtime, etc.
Or maybe it's just me; After using custom roms for years, and not having to wait that long after a manufacturer to update its phones, I became impatient :|
At least Sony update their phones I'm happy to wait when it comes it comes I'm tired of expecting. We had 2 year updates with the original XZ so I'm more than happy
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I don't understand why the Z3 series has the Marshmallow concept and Z5 doesn't.
Waiting is okay for me, as long as the update brings something big, like new feautres. But at least Sony should tell us when they're going to release Marshmallow - it's now a bit long time already.
I hope to see new redesigned UI as current one is really boring and these colorfull icons in menus are no longer elegant to be honest, it does not look consistent to me any longer.
Camera blur fix and low light improvements along with 4K 60fps and intelligent stady shot are expected.
Battery life for sure needs to be improved as well as lags and response of the phone.
Bug fixes please.
Dream Wishes? Old Timescape in new rewamped design
The most important is the manual camera, or at least return of iso on sony manual camera app
Phazonclash said:
Mashmallow release date: October 5, 2015
October... November... December... 1/2 January... still no release date. I'm not talking about the actual ROM, just about a release date... (January? February?)
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They keeping it temporary exclusive for the Z6 launch. (lol)
Ok I'm out.
It's the same every time Just wait à little more to be sure to have à good rom. Z3 users already bêta test it for us..
Btw where did you see October for Z5 MM release ?
You can monitor this thread cause this guy gbil work at sony always have true info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3261154
ninjy said:
They keeping it temporary exclusive for the Z6 launch. (lol)
Ok I'm out.
It's the same every time Just wait à little more to be sure to have à good rom. Z3 users already bêta test it for us..
Btw where did you see October for Z5 MM release ?
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Marshmallow was released by google on October 5th 2015...
It's a shame because I'm waiting for the marshmallow update to see if it's worth me keeping this phone or selling and getting a nexus 6p
Sony never promised MM to release in 2015 for the Z5 lineup, according to sources the update is going to be released this month.
chrisully said:
It's a shame because I'm waiting for the marshmallow update to see if it's worth me keeping this phone or selling and getting a nexus 6p
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I'm thinking the same thing, either swapping it or selling it for either a 6P or a G4 (or even my previous Moto X Style I swapped for this device)
They need to fix and improve a lot of stuff for the device for me to keep it..
It's been reported that the new firmware bound for Sony Xperia Z5 and Xperia Z4 in Japan has been certified by the Wi-Fi Alliance, a process that is needed to for OTA software update, so hang in there folks =)
Sckank said:
It's been reported that the new firmware bound for Sony Xperia Z5 and Xperia Z4 in Japan has been certified by the Wi-Fi Alliance, a process that is needed to for OTA software update, so hang in there folks =)
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Any links to that statement? Who reported it?
Bramzzz said:
Any links to that statement? Who reported it?
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/12/1...rtified-for-japanese-xperia-z4-and-z5-models/
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It was, like, a month ago... Nothing new.
I have marshmallow on my 6P and I tried the concept on the Z3 and it's not that much of a change. It does bring native fingerprint scanner support that hopefully Sony will bring forward with their own scanner. Also adopted SD storage with it's a bit of a mess on its own.
Another thing I've noticed, because app uptake for new versions of android is slow (right now about 5% of people are on marshmallow) there's a lot of bugs to be ironed out by devs at the beginning therefore IMHO is much better to get onto the new big releases a few months later after Google puts them out.
I think Sony does a fine job with all this. By the time they came out with Lollipop most bugs had been ironed out and they quickly brought it up to 5.1.1.