Hello all,
I am considering getting a NC for my sister.
She will only want to do some light web browsing reading and the big thing is watching a movie when traveling.
Will the new update allow this?
If I have to root it will that even be something it can do?
play a dvd rip or a movie formatted for the ipod for example.
Thanks in advance for any answers.
stock can do all this, even 1.1 could from what I remember. Although I never tried watching movies, there was a section for them. Just remember to get the best quality, you have to convert it correctly. Just converting it to an iPod will work, but won't look as good as it can. I suggest DVD Catalyst (it costs, but the guy who made it deserves the "donation") or if you're cheap, handbrake. DVD Catalyst has pre-set format for the Nook and you can google what settings to set handbrake to.
The nook color is very capable at playing normal size videos (i.e the 175MB or 350MB shows). Since its so easy to root it I recommend that you do and then you have a choice of MPEG4 players (no conversion needed). You can also install any ebook reader you want
I don't think rooting is a good suggestion right now. The 1.2 update just came out and isn't rooted yet. I'm sure it wont be long till we are free again, but I don't recommend the idea of rooting right now.
That said, I do believe its all possible on stock 1.2. I'll reboot into 1.2 and see how video playback goes. I know it works on CM7.
for a general user, I too suggest sticking with stock 1.2 until there is an auto-nooter (auto root) method, even then you/she may never need more than stock 1.2.
I have successfully rooted 1.2 using nooter 0.2. I have not gotten Android Market to work yet but I have many apps working including zeam. You will need another launcher like zeam to use applications not from the nook market because they do not show in the nook apps menu. You could of course use 1.1 and use auto-nooter to get the video player apps you want. The main difference is flash is not supported in 1.1. 3rd party apps do show in the extras menu in 1.1.
Back again. This time from stock updated Nook Color. Yes videos play just fine. I tested it on my 3 stooges rips. Just go into the gallery and find your movies. Light browsing obviously works, since I am posting this.
Root might be great once itcomes back again, too.
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I have successfully rooted 1.2 using nooter 0.2. I have not gotten Android Market to work yet but I have many apps working including zeam. You will need another launcher like zeam to use applications not from the nook market because they do not show in the nook apps menu. You could of course use 1.1 and use auto-nooter to get the video player apps you want. The main difference is flash is not supported in 1.1. 3rd party apps do show in the extras menu in 1.1.
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Won't a rooted 1.1 NC try to update itself when the update goes automatic? I have never rooted, but the auto update looks to be a common concern in the forums at the moment. Just curious.
Hi, after installing a new kernel with multitouch and norefresh through CWM, and considering installing the overclocked one by guevor (update: installed oc kernel), but I had some newbie questions about restoring the Kernel in case I wanted to go back to stock or update to 1.2.1.
I have taken full factory backups at 1.0.1 with noogie by copying the physical disk with diskimage, and another backup with the 1.2 rooter gui. I have since updated to 1.1 (no backup on 1.1) and rooted before I installed the new kernel. Is there any way to revert to the default kernel on 1.1.0?
Also, Is there any way to adjust the contrast in fastmode? The text is barely readable and an unusual amount of gosting (maybe something is wrong), but it's super fast.
Thanks so much, and this community has been a lifesaver since last night when I got my nook. Go easy on me since I've only had my nook for a few hours, I've been reading a lot and searching these forums for hours.
Also, bonus questions:
1. Is it possible to set a custom wallpaper (behind the icons)
2. Is it possible to actually decode/play videos? no video apps seem to work, even p2p ones.. also youtube videos / flash doesn't work which is strange because android 2.1 should support video right?
3. What's the consensus about screen damage/use using fast mode? Brand new nook.... lol. I'm not sure if I'm shortening the 10 year life of the e-ink display to 1 week.
jun127 said:
Hi, after installing a new kernel with multitouch and norefresh through CWM, and considering installing the overclocked one by guevor (update: installed oc kernel), but I had some newbie questions about restoring the Kernel in case I wanted to go back to stock or update to 1.2.1.
I have taken full factory backups at 1.0.1 with noogie by copying the physical disk with diskimage, and another backup with the 1.2 rooter gui. I have since updated to 1.1 (no backup on 1.1) and rooted before I installed the new kernel. Is there any way to revert to the default kernel on 1.1.0?
Also, Is there any way to adjust the contrast in fastmode? The text is barely readable and an unusual amount of gosting (maybe something is wrong), but it's super fast.
Thanks so much, and this community has been a lifesaver since last night when I got my nook. Go easy on me since I've only had my nook for a few hours, I've been reading a lot and searching these forums for hours.
Also, bonus questions:
1. Is it possible to set a custom wallpaper (behind the icons)
2. Is it possible to actually decode/play videos? no video apps seem to work, even p2p ones.. also youtube videos / flash doesn't work which is strange because android 2.1 should support video right?
3. What's the consensus about screen damage/use using fast mode? Brand new nook.... lol. I'm not sure if I'm shortening the 10 year life of the e-ink display to 1 week.
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I. http://nookdevs.com/Nook_Simple_Touch_restore_to_stock
II. No. Try to change font in your reader. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20069292&postcount=10
or use NoRefresh to read text.
or try different reader for eg. https://code.google.com/p/apv/downloads/list
1. if you change your launcher from 'ReLaunch' to for eg. 'LegacyLauncher' then yes.
2. RockPlayer + software decoding = playing videos
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.redirectin.rockplayer.android.unified.lite&hl=en
3. Your battery will probably die faster than the screen. I used NoRefresh and FastMode from the start and the screen still works fine. On the other hand my battery died (2 weeks before the end of warranty).
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I. http://nookdevs.com/Nook_Simple_Touch_restore_to_stock
II. No. Try to change font in your reader. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20069292&postcount=10
or use NoRefresh to read text.
or try different reader for eg. https://code.google.com/p/apv/downloads/list
1. if you change your launcher from 'ReLaunch' to for eg. 'LegacyLauncher' then yes.
2. RockPlayer + software decoding = playing videos
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.redirectin.rockplayer.android.unified.lite&hl=en
3. Your battery will probably die faster than the screen. I used NoRefresh and FastMode from the start and the screen still works fine. On the other hand my battery died (2 weeks before the end of warranty).
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Thanks for your help! I've seen you around the forums quite a bit and learned a lot from reading your past posts.
I was able to play rmvb with rockplayer (still in beta?), but couldn't figure out how to make the streaming p2p tv applications work (also rmvb) such as PPTV, and PPS which usually work on everything (although they installed properly and also tried downloading and installing codecs. I had to download the rmvb file from pptv and play it manually on rockplayer.
Thanks for the Legacy Launcher tip, looks great! Edit: Unfortunately I can't get wallpapers to work there either. When I select wallpaper, it gives me 2 options, from pictures, or from wallpapers. pictures shows "no media", and wallpapers are just a few standard wallpapers. I can't find anywhere to select a picture from the SD card, and I can't find any "media" or wallpaper folder in file browser. UPDATE: I was able to get wallpapers by downloading the app "wallpaper changer" and "ES file explorer".
Interesting to know about the battery, I was also worried about that. I managed to suck through 35% of the battery in 5 hours. I didn't buy the official wall charger, but I used a chinese 5 volt adapter I had laying around after I kept getting the following problem:
Another problem I've been having is that when I plug the NST into my computer via USB everything goes ballistic on my nook, it rapidly connects and drops USB mode, and then if I go into settings both internal storage and SD card are greyed out "unavailable". What could cause that?
Finally, is there anyway to get ADB on windows without downloading the entire android SDK? I want to apply the IMEI fix to install whatsapp, but I can't get ADB to work at all. UPDATE: I solved it, adb.exe baby and I guess you can use that with commander. My problem was the default wireless adb app wasn't working, I installed wifi adb and it worked. Very odd, since usb connection didn't work, but at least I got my IMEI and whatsapp. Any methods for getting working contacts on NST? I'm going to try the contacts.db workaround if there is no other options, but I'm hoping for something less risky and automated.
I also wanted to note that I solved the 24 hour wait time on google market, go to gmail and add a second contact and sync that contact. The first google account will automagically work.
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1. I think that 'nook' launches 'hardware video decoding' by default when you try to open up a stream from the apk so the only option is to download videos and play them locally. 'TubeMate' is able to do this.
http://m.tubemate.net/
On the other hand if the apk contains a video player with 'software decoding' this could work like it should.
I know that 'BeyondPod' was able to play audio podcasts from within application. Haven't tested it on videos.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.beyondpod&hl=en
2. Don't forget to turn all useless animations in the Launcher off and get "Minimalist Black - ADW Theme'. You can find it in 'TouchNooter' package.
3. Try to use a different micro usb cable. Sounds like yours is broken.
4. In the current version of NookManager, ADB through USB is not supported.
5. Can't help you with that right now.
I've been running OldDroid's OpenKirin for Honor 8 on my US (C567) Mate 9 for a few days and I'm very happy with it. It fixed the main bugs I've experienced with EMUI 8 since the Oreo upgrade. Those bugs include widgets not updating after a half hour even when exempted from battery optimization, some apps not working (e.g. US Topo, a GPS hiking app, that was battery-optimized to stop even when exempted from battery optimization), and EMUI's favoring its own launcher over third party launchers like Nova, sometimes to the point of crashing. Then there were irritants like apps that I don't use that couldn't be removed, EMUI lockscreen wallpaper whose magazine no longer updates. If I wanted to be tightly controlled, I'd buy an iphone.
So with Wirmpolter's patient help, I took the plunge and installed AOSP, specifically OldDroid's OpenKirin for the Honor 8. This is a treble-based OS, with some specialization for the Kirin processor. I've written an installation guide aimed at a relatively inexperienced installer:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76231795&postcount=23
All of my major and minor frustrations with EMUI have been resolved. All my apps work. All the hardware works (although I have to turn off the equalizer to get music to play through the headphones). The camera and video work great. Battery life is good. You can install without replacing the stock recovery, which is good because if you don't touch the stock recovery, it is pretty much always possible to unbrick your phone.
If you are eyeing a new phone or thinking about rolling back to Nougat because of your dissatisfaction with Oreo/EMUI 8 on the Mate 9, then I'd suggest trying OpenKirin. It worked for me.
Hi! Does the headphone jack work with 3rd party music players and video players like say VLC? I have a lot of music on my SD so will the app be able to read it? Also, compared to stock EMUI how would you rate battery life?
Thanks, looking forward to this.
Although, not willing to be a guinea pig at the moment. Hoping some others will try this out and give some feedback. Definitely, need a fully functioning camera, including video.
Works with VLC
Vankata1 said:
Hi! Does the headphone jack work with 3rd party music players and video players like say VLC? I have a lot of music on my SD so will the app be able to read it? Also, compared to stock EMUI how would you rate battery life?
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VLC works with headphones -- I use VLC, though my main music player is Music Folder Player Full, which also works with headphones. (If you carry a lot of music organized into folders, check it out.) Neither app can see the SD card, so you would have to move music to the main storage with the Files program in order to access it with VLC. I carry about 10GB of music, so I copy all of it onto main storage. Again, to make the headphones work, I use Simple Tiny Equalizer to turn off the equalizer. You can do this in app, too.
I'm finding battery life about the same, possibly a bit worse. I used to end a day with about 30% remaining, and now I end it with 20%. Small sample. I might be using it more intensely, though, or EMUI's aggressive battery management that disables widgets and apps may have saved some battery.
As an aside, VLC can see my local network, like a Windows PC. I can play music and videos at home from my NAS. I didn't know Android could do this.
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vijer said:
Thanks, looking forward to this.
Although, not willing to be a guinea pig at the moment. Hoping some others will try this out and give some feedback. Definitely, need a fully functioning camera, including video.
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My willingness to be a guinea pig was very much influenced by (1) having a pretty great backup phone (ZTE Axon), which I set up first and used during the process and (2) the time I was spending looking at new phone announcements and reviews, gearing up to ditch my phone. But I like the Mate 9 -- fast, big battery, big screen, fantastic camera, headphone jack -- and I don't really want to start carrying a USB-C to 3.5mm dongle around. There was nothing wrong with the phone except EMUI 8.
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My willingness to be a guinea pig was very much influenced by (1) having a pretty great backup phone (ZTE Axon), which I set up first and used during the process and (2) the time I was spending looking at new phone announcements and reviews, gearing up to ditch my phone. But I like the Mate 9 -- fast, big battery, big screen, fantastic camera, headphone jack -- and I don't really want to start carrying a USB-C to 3.5mm dongle around. There was nothing wrong with the phone except EMUI 8.
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The Mate 9 is the best phone I have owned so far and I am considering the Mate 10. I hate the pro version, don't like those long skinny screens.
EMUI 8 is okay (I don't access settings often and I don't have any issues using Nova Launcher), but I would like to get rid of some of the locked in software (Duo, Facebook App Manager, Email, Gboard, Google, Google Play Movies/Music, Hi Care, HiSuite, Huawei Home, Huawei Mobile, Music, Notepad - a lot can be disabled but why not just allow deletion?) and I would really like to use OpenGapps Pico. But I really need to access my ExtSd from PowerAmp and Moon+Reader, so that is the real deal breaker.
Are you able to use OpenGapps? Does the vanilla Oreo come with Google's bloatware too?
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vijer said:
The Mate 9 is the best phone I have owned so far and I am considering the Mate 10. I hate the pro version, don't like those long skinny screens.
EMUI 8 is okay (I don't access settings often and I don't have any issues using Nova Launcher), but I would like to get rid of some of the locked in software (Duo, Facebook App Manager, Email, Gboard, Google, Google Play Movies/Music, Hi Care, HiSuite, Huawei Home, Huawei Mobile, Music, Notepad - a lot can be disabled but why not just allow deletion?) and I would really like to use OpenGapps Pico. But I really need to access my ExtSd from PowerAmp and Moon+Reader, so that is the real deal breaker.
Are you able to use OpenGapps? Does the vanilla Oreo come with Googles bloatware too?
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I'm with you on the long, skinny screens. I carry my phone in my shirt pocket most of the time, and it just barely has its center of gravity below the top edge of my pocket. Any taller and it will fall out even more frequently.
EMUI occasionally asked to replace Nova, and would crash if I added a EMUI widget to the homescreen. I hadn't realized how many apps couldn't be removed. For me, Facebook App manager is especially awful as I'm not on FB and FB track non-users, e.g. through the Like button on third party websites.
Not all the Gapps were embedded but some were. I think I had to add Gmail but Play, Google (search app), Chrome etc were present. It appears I can't uninstall the Google search app. (Of course, with the phone rooted, I can.) OpenKirin is not a vanilla AOSP in that way.
Did you try/can you try viper4android? ive been trying to get it working on emui8 and have had no luck.
really wanting to switch to aosp
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KitsuneUK said:
Did you try/can you try viper4android? ive been trying to get it working on emui8 and have had no luck.
really wanting to switch to aosp
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The reviews are too negative, especially claiming popups, for me to try this. I'm not saying that the reviews are accurate as they often are not. But I've had to hard reset sometimes to remove a pernicious app, and this one isn't worth the risk. Sorry.
A cleaner version of android is more likely to run any app that didn't come from the phone manufacturer.
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I'm with you on the long, skinny screens. I carry my phone in my shirt pocket most of the time, and it just barely has its center of gravity below the top edge of my pocket. Any taller and it will fall out even more frequently.
EMUI occasionally asked to replace Nova, and would crash if I added a EMUI widget to the homescreen. I hadn't realized how many apps couldn't be removed. For me, Facebook App manager is especially awful as I'm not on FB and FB track non-users, e.g. through the Like button on third party websites.
Not all the Gapps were embedded but some were. I think I had to add Gmail but Play, Google (search app), Chrome etc were present. It appears I can't uninstall the Google search app. (Of course, with the phone rooted, I can.) OpenKirin is not a vanilla AOSP in that way.
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Ya, I remember having an issues with one or two widgets, but then I decided I didn't want all that stuff and just made three widgets using KWGT widget maker and I haven't had any issues since, except occasionally the music pause/start doesn't respond.
I was able to remove many apps, but those I listed, and most of those can be disabled. Still, would rather have a clean ROM.
Some of these app issues are Google changes. I used to use ROM Toolbox Pro to remove apps but Google made them remove the feature. I think Google is trying to force more apps like Chrome and Search on us. I don't use the Gmail app, instead I use AquaMail which is a superior interface and I have 7 email accounts that it manages.
Did you try installing OpenGapps? I did on the Huawei Oreo and it installs but then the phone boot loops. I used the pico version which has the bare minimum Gapps. Don't know if the issue is the way Huawei made the ROM or if this is a Google change.
Anyway, the biggest issue is the limited support for the external SD card. Maybe a future update will resolve that issue.
I'll definitely update when OldDroid does, at least fairly quickly, and report if the next version improves the SD card. I'm doing all right with it just as a source of backup files.
I found another advantage of OpenKirin. I didn't get google maps directions over bluetooth in car (an Audi) since updating to Oreo/EMUI 8. I'm not sure why. I tried deleting and re-adding the connection, which didn't fix it, and music and telephone calls played fine over bluetooth, so it wasn't the bluetooth connection. Now bluetooth directions work perfectly, as well as music and calls (which did before).
I took the plunge and flashed OpenKirin - it's decent, limited bloat, but I just can't live with the external SD card access problem. Hopefully, OpenKirin developers will work on it.
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I took the plunge and flashed OpenKirin - it's decent, limited bloat, but I just can't live with the external SD card access problem. Hopefully, OpenKirin developers will work on it.
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How's the performance? I tried Phh-Treble, RROS and Lineage OS, this last two are for the Honor View 10, all of them work, can read external SDCard but all of them have performance issues, when you are heavy using the phone, switching from app to app, copypasting things, taking photos, etc., the phones lost all kinds of smoothness that seems to have when you just flash it.
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How's the performance? I tried Phh-Treble, RROS and Lineage OS, this last two are for the Honor View 10, all of them work, can read external SDCard but all of them have performance issues, when you are heavy using the phone, switching from app to app, copypasting things, taking photos, etc., the phones lost all kinds of smoothness that seems to have when you just flash it.
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Sorry, I can't answer your question. I have too much on my external SD to live without it. 300 ebooks 2000 mp3s 400 videos several hundred images
Camera app can't see the storage
Root explorer can't see the storage
PowerAmp can
QuickPik can't
Moon+Reader cant
VLC can't
So after fiddling with it for a while I went back to MHA-L29 8.0.0.368
I haven't noticed any performance issues after about a week of uptime. I don't game, though, so may not stress the system like some do.
vijer said:
Sorry, I can't answer your question. I have too much on my external SD to live without it. 300 ebooks 2000 mp3s 400 videos several hundred images
Camera app can't see the storage
Root explorer can't see the storage
PowerAmp can
QuickPik can't
Moon+Reader cant
VLC can't
So after fiddling with it for a while I went back to MHA-L29 8.0.0.368
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Yeah I know that bug, experienced it in Phh-Treble, hopefully is easy to fix and it was fixed on Phh-Treble, so it'll be soo fixed on this OpenKirik AOSP, what matters most to me is performance
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I haven't noticed any performance issues after about a week of uptime. I don't game, though, so may not stress the system like some do.
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I guess it deservers a try-
I finally took the dive and installed this on my primary device last night.
Ran into one issue: apparently, Huawei pulled the unlock request page offline. All of the available links to it that I could find went to a 404 page. (DC Unlocker to the rescue, I guess.)
In any case:
No issues with headphones. A few minor graphical glitches with the volume control panel and similar things but that's about it.
Magisk gets Google Pay and other SafetyNet demanding apps working, AdGuard doesn't mysteriously stop running because of overly aggressive memory management, dual SIM functionality seems fine.
45 minutes SOT, 92% remaining. No performance issues of note, aside from the minor graphical glitches feels smoother than EMUI did.
Update: I found something that gets rid of the graphical glitches, which (so far) seems to have a negligible effect on performance. Turn on GPU rendering profiling to be output to adb, all of the weird scrolling and clipping glitches go away...
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irony_delerium said:
I finally took the dive and installed this on my primary device last night.
Ran into one issue: apparently, Huawei pulled the unlock request page offline. All of the available links to it that I could find went to a 404 page. (DC Unlocker to the rescue, I guess.)
In any case:
No issues with headphones. A few minor graphical glitches with the volume control panel and similar things but that's about it.
Magisk gets Google Pay and other SafetyNet demanding apps working, AdGuard doesn't mysteriously stop running because of overly aggressive memory management, dual SIM functionality seems fine.
45 minutes SOT, 92% remaining. No performance issues of note, aside from the minor graphical glitches feels smoother than EMUI did.
Update: I found something that gets rid of the graphical glitches, which (so far) seems to have a negligible effect on performance. Turn on GPU rendering profiling to be output to adb, all of the weird scrolling and clipping glitches go away...
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I have a "Profile GPU rendering" under developer options, defaulted to Off, with two other options: On screen as bars, and "In adb shell dumpsys gfxinfo". Is the latter what you mean by output to adb, or am I missing something? I hadn't noticed glitches, other than occasionally missing half of the first line of text in some reading apps. With the in adb setting, I was unable to replicate that glitch, but it doesn't happen often, so could be unrelated.
When I choose "In adb shell dumpsys gfxinfo" and then restart, it returns to off.
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I have a "Profile GPU rendering" under developer options, defaulted to Off, with two other options: On screen as bars, and "In adb shell dumpsys gfxinfo". Is the latter what you mean by output to adb, or am I missing something? I hadn't noticed glitches, other than occasionally missing half of the first line of text in some reading apps. With the in adb setting, I was unable to replicate that glitch, but it doesn't happen often, so could be unrelated.
When I choose "In adb shell dumpsys gfxinfo" and then restart, it returns to off.
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The latter is what I meant. The glitches I keep seeing are:
1) The volume panel, when it's opening and closing, seems to lose it's edges. As soon as the animation is complete, of course, it returns to normal.
2) In Chrome, at least, when scrolling through a select box, the edges of it seem to stick (top and sides).
I've seen a few others, mostly in the same vein. It usually looks to be as though a scrollable view isn't clipped correctly by the underlying driver, and turning on profiling causes it to render strictly.
I'm not surprised that it turns itself off at reboot, I haven't rebooted this since I got everything installed on it.
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The latter is what I meant. The glitches I keep seeing are:
1) The volume panel, when it's opening and closing, seems to lose it's edges. As soon as the animation is complete, of course, it returns to normal.
2) In Chrome, at least, when scrolling through a select box, the edges of it seem to stick (top and sides). .
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I replicated 1) and that your fix works. I had noticed some scrolling artifacts in Firefox, but don't seem to be able to replicate them at the moment. But then, I notice scrolling artifacts on laptops, too. I'll leave it set to adb.