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I have found a 3000 mAh battery on eBay for around $100 with shipping, and since I'm pretty tired of the short battery life I'm considering it. I was so embarassed when the family went skiing yesterday! My kids have smartphones (Qtek 8030 & 9100 - I keep the family on intelligent phones, my wife has a Qtek 8500 Star Trek) and they had MP3's playing all day in the slopes with only one of the three battery level stripes dissappearing, while I had to put my Atom in the car and charge it after only three hours, when it was down to less than 15 %! Which is why I'm considering either an expensive 3000 mAh or one of those cheap USB chargers where you just put in a regular AA (or was it AAA?) battery and hook it up to the mini USB port. So has anybody tried either of them?
The battery-based chargers work, there are AA and AAA models 'round here (>1 battery each) - but I haven't tried it on the Atom yet. Be aware that the Atom has a charger protection mechanism that refuses to let the battery trickle charge if it doesn't provide a rated amount of juice (this is not mentioned in the O2 site, but it's there. It's the reason why chargers that normally work on the Mini won't work on the Atom).
Personally, I'd rather get a charger that works practically everywhere than to grab an extended battery.
(Have you considered those new fangled solar powered chargers? Some of them contain internal batteries that store energy, even under artificial light - and it is this battery that is used to charge your device. This could be a better idea, but be sure to check if it works on your device.)
PS: a PDA eats battery like no tomorrow because it usually uses better processors and interfaces - the XScale on ours is the eater here. Smartphones run on a lower rated processor/card slots, and don't have touch sense screens, and thus can last for much longer. If you really need your PDA to last, well, forever - you might want to consider an extended battery or one of the CPU scaler programs.
Thanks! I forgot to say that I ate the battery with the CPU at 208 mHz (with XCpuScalar)... Anyway, I have two of those AA-chargers on the way, I'm glad they work! At home I have GP PowerBank chargers and a bunch of rechargable batteries which I will use for this. With any luck a few of those will last me all day on skis!
And I didn't know about that protection mechanism in the Atom, I have been wondering why it's so extremely picky when it comes to charging from USB cables and stuff like that.
And I hadn'd even heard about the solar charging option, but I see there are a bunch of those on eBay. They look pretty cool, but unfortunately when I'm in the sun I seldom stand still long enough to put the charger and the phone anywhere for charging. If there was an affordable vest or jacket for that, though...
I think the O2's charger protection mechanisms were discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276400
Methinks Quanta borrowed something from Motorola.
The solar charger, btw, works under incandescent light as well (I have one - useful in a hotel room where you don't have a plug but you have access to a desktop lamp). More expensive models can supposedly work under flourescent light, but I'm a cheapskate. They work by having an internal LiON themselves, which is trickle charged by solar/incandescent power - and then the battery itself is the one that charges your PDA's battery. Many different types exist, but most of them have a 1000-3000mah internal reservoir, and the better ones have different voltage settings for differenet devices.
Yeah, but the problem is that they're too big for my jacket pockets, so they won't help me skiing.
Well, that didn't really work. So I have decided to go for quantity instead of quality: Ordering three batteries, one with a charger that charges it ouside of the phone as well as charges the phone. All in all around 40 dollars, which gives me four batteries to play with. I ain't gonna use up my phone next time I'm in the slopes! And I think the same batteries can be used on my next phone, the Atom Life. It's got a larger capacity battery, but it looks like it's the same physical shape. Then again I may be wrong, but at least I will have no problems on those boat trips this summer!
And that worked! Not to mention that the original battery has to be total an utter crap! On these new batteries I had more than twice the battery time I had on the original. Of course it's been used for about two years, but still it shouldn't be that bad! I have five year old PPCs that hasn't changed that much in battery time. Anyway, with three new batteries and the old one I can keep going for a looong time!
Mastiff said:
And that worked! Not to mention that the original battery has to be total an utter crap! On these new batteries I had more than twice the battery time I had on the original. Of course it's been used for about two years, but still it shouldn't be that bad! I have five year old PPCs that hasn't changed that much in battery time. Anyway, with three new batteries and the old one I can keep going for a looong time!
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bro did u tryed u,r AAA batery charger for Aom Life? i also bought a AAA battery charger fro my first Atom but not working after that tryed for my Atom Exec saem now going to check on my Atom Life,, thought to ask u befor check it.......
Some types works, some don't. It seems like only the black type work,while the shiny metallic one doesn't.
I don't see a charger from evga on newegg or on their site. Third party suggestions welcome if necessary. Thanks in advance.
KingPrincess said:
I don't see a charger from evga on newegg or on their site. Third party suggestions welcome if necessary. Thanks in advance.
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My factory charger is rated at 2 amps @ 5V so any charger with those specs should work. I use my Amazon 2A charger without any problems as well as the 2A port on my Ravpower portable battery pack.
TLDR: You get what you pay for. Any 5V charger will charge the device, you do not need a specific "Tegra Note Charger". The larger the current rating the quicker the device will charge. If the psu does not have a USB port in which you can plug in a USB>MicroUSB cable, ensure that the psu has a microUSB plug attached.
There are two main considerations though besides this, first is brand/quality, the second is the charge current available.
Brand/quality - Not all chargers are made equal. Most nowadays are switchmode but component quality and design will vary greatly between chargers of different brands. Whilst the basic buck design that most manufacturers will use is efficient, there is a lot of transient noise introduced as well as voltage ripple depending on the design and components used. The funny thing is that the difference between a "good" psu and a "bad" psu is cents in the dollar but many manufacturers will choose to save those cents. The sense behind it? Most consumers are completely ignorant.
Charge Current - There are two main differences you will see between a 500mA or 2A charger. The first is charge time - if the psu is capable of supplying a higher charge current and the device is capable of drawing that larger charge current then your device will charge quicker. Thing is though, the USB standard requires negotiation to be made between the psu and the device for charge currents larger than 500mA. If you buy a cheap psu that is capable of 2A but does not have the negotiation IC, you will never charge more than 500mA. Once again, the difference between having this IC and not is cents in the dollar.
I just bought some US->Euro AC-adapters so i can use the original charger. A new charger that has decent quality would cost at least 15$ or more, since 2 ampere outputs are rather uncommon (most phones-chargers ones only have 1 ampere).
And 1 ampere is not quite enough to charge the TN7 an use it at the same time (currently using a 1A-charger).
But even with those adapter you don't want the cheapest. Or at least read some comments on amazon before buying. There are a lot of really cheap ones.
I got these ones from amazon and i really hope they're the better ones ...
Hello Guys,
Everyone know that is not good to our phones battery use other chargers that is not from Samsung. So, my question is: is safe to use power bank ? If yes, wich one is recomended for our phone ?
Sorry my bad english :cyclops:
I have the ravpower 26800mah usb-c version. Power banks work just fine with my s8. I've used multiple ones also.
Using this powerbank, the S8 charger fast ? And the battery life is good charging with powerbank ?
Tony_Starkus said:
Using this powerbank, the S8 charger fast ? And the battery life is good charging with powerbank ?
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I use a couple power banks I have. One being a 12,000 mah battery on a flashlight I have.But it only charges at regular 5 volt speeds...
I use a Choetech 6 ports usb hub 50 watts total and it charges = to or better than samsungs power blocks
In the end it depends on the output capacities of the charger source and capabilities of the Usb cable As long as its advertised power out put is that or greater than Samsungs fast charge should work just fine
If I use any charger that isn't from Samsung, the phone will tell me, but I use the Anker powerCore 20100mAh, works really well, chargers my phone like a normal charger, but lately I've been having trouble charging it at a good speed(with 30% it gives me 4hours to fully charge), only using the power bank gives me this problem, and only my phone. I've tried talking with the support of both companies, they blame the other. Still turning it off chargers it extremely fast.
https://www.anker.com/store/powercore-20100/A1271012
Hi all,
I got OnePlus wall Fast Charge Power Adapter from ebay, and i test it with factory cable, i found its higher then the official one
the official one its between 1730 -1800
and the after market from ebay Ebay its between 2700 -2900 my question is the higher amp will hurt the battery life ?
regards
How are you measuring this? Ive found my One plus phones will not charge rapidly with my current measuring device plugged between them and the phone.
Next every single device I have, the battery lasts longer when I slow charge them. (More time on each charge) I charge my devices generally between 0.3-0.5 amps.
OhioYJ said:
How are you measuring this? Ive found my One plus phones will not charge rapidly with my current measuring device plugged between them and the phone.
Next every single device I have, the battery lasts longer when I slow charge them. (More time on each charge) I charge my devices generally between 0.3-0.5 amps.
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by ampere app, i chat with oneplus they said its should be up to 4000 with the official charger
ananmatai said:
by ampere app, i chat with oneplus they said its should be up to 4000 with the official charger
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The charger uses 5V 4Amps. You should charge around 3000mAh below 75% after they it slows down.
Puddi_Puddin said:
The charger uses 5V 4Amps. You should charge around 3000mAh below 75% after they it slows down.
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thank you sir, i got surprise the official one not reaching 2000ma
Just got this on our country's local online shopping site (shopee) for about $27 (discounted and with free c-c cable). It's actually 65W and has two USB Type-C ports and one USB-A port. The first USB-C port supports up to 65W and I mainly use it for my laptop. However, I just discovered that it actually charges my Note10+ on 45W. The second USB-C port supports up to 30W and it charges the phone at 25W. Lastly, the USB-A also supports up to 30W but it only charges the phone at 18W.
Many have asked how I knew the power output on each ports when used on the Note10+, well a few months back, Samsung added the feature on one of their updates to display different labels when charging.
On 45W charging, the phone displays Super Fast Charging 2.0;
on 25W charging, the phone displays Super Fast Charging;
on 15-18W charging, the phone displays Fast Charging;
and on 10W charging, the phone displays Cable Charging.
So there you have it, if you're looking for 3rd party 45W chargers, I suggest you check this one out as well.
I also am not sure if xda allows me to link where I got this but I'll just do it anyway. To the mods, please remove the link if necessary.
https://shopee.ph/product/131196305/5404683463?smtt=0.0.9
This is the Baseus 65W GaN Mini Quick Charge US
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Just got this on our country's local online shopping site (shopee) for about $27 (discounted and with free c-c cable). It's actually 65W and has two USB Type-C ports and one USB-A port. The first USB-C port supports up to 65W and I mainly use it for my laptop. However, I just discovered that it actually charges my Note10+ on 45W. The second USB-C port supports up to 30W and it charges the phone at 25W. Lastly, the USB-A also supports up to 30W but it only charges the phone at 18W.
So there you have it, if you're looking for 3rd party 45W chargers, I suggest you check this one out as well.
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Cant see the pics can you share the link?
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Cant see the pics can you share the link?
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Original post updated.
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Hi, how do you know what wattage you are getting with each cable?
im using baseus GaN 65W + type C to type C 100W from baseus and the 45w work properly
Nice find! It's available on Amazon in the US for roughly the same price as your link.
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Hi, how do you know what wattage you are getting with each cable?
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The later firmware of the note 10+ has different indicators when charging. On 15-18W charging the phone will display "Fast Charging", on 25W it will display "Super Fast Charging", lastly on 45W charging the phone will display "Super Fast Charging 2.0"
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The later firmware of the note 10+ has different indicators when charging. On 15-18W charging the phone will display "Fast Charging", on 25W it will display "Super Fast Charging", lastly on 45W charging the phone will display "Super Fast Charging 2.0"
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Explained perfectly. I was very surprised when I saw "super fast 2.0" on my note 10+
I bought one of these chargers:
https://www.giztop.com/baseus-120w-2c1a-gan-charger.html
Due to it's 87-watt output of the Type C port, I use it to charge the Note 10 Plus in full-speed, as well as to charge my laptop, which can be charged through the Type C port.
Even if I use both Type C ports at the same time, the quality and speed of charging does not decrease either in mobile phone or laptop, which is one of the strengths of this charger.
It is compact and has a very high quality.
I have bought several Baseus products, even 2 protective cases, without exception, all have been of a very good quality, and, reasonably priced
15W charger charges in 80min
25W charges in 65min
45W charges in 56min
Are there any drawbacks with those new GaN chargers? I mean, if they aren't becoming the norm, there may be any. Are they less durable? Maybe they produce more toxic waste?
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The later firmware of the note 10+ has different indicators when charging. On 15-18W charging the phone will display "Fast Charging", on 25W it will display "Super Fast Charging", lastly on 45W charging the phone will display "Super Fast Charging 2.0"
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Original firmware, still running Pie, will indicate "fast charging" with the 25 w brick.
Really that's all you need or want. Stock ones with cable go for $20 stateside. My original one is still charging away even after heavy use.
One other plus for the stock charger is it will charge even at 60 VAC. I inadvertently tested that when we lost one leg of electric power overnight. Didn't phase the brick one bit... and it continued charging.
Update, got a new N10+ running on Q. With the same 25w brick, Q shows it to be "super charging". Sounds faster
Doesn't faster charging (ie. faster than rated for the phone) make the battery deteriorate faster?
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Doesn't faster charging (ie. faster than rated for the phone) make the battery deteriorate faster?
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Yes. Any additional stress does.
Do you think about how rapidly the battery discharges when in use? Same deal.
When watching vids which draw about 12% SOT I give it a break every 20-30 minutes.
The whole phone interior is warm much of the time too, more stress.
Just the nature of having a finite lifespan. On a heavily used device you'll get 1-2 years lifespan.
It's no big deal, simply replace it when it's capacity drops below roughly 80% of it's original capacity to avoid a battery failure which can heavily damage, even destroy the device.
Replacing the battery is just part of using and maintaining the phone.
Even the N10+'s battery replacement which isn't rated as easy really is not that difficult once you learn the tricks. Just replace with a battery made in Nam, not China and use a new OEM seal on the rear cover.
The "permanent battery" stuff is just hype for most phones. There are a few exceptions.
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Yes. Any additional stress does.
Do you think about how rapidly the battery discharges when in use? Same deal.
When watching vids which draw about 12% SOT I give it a break every 20-30 minutes.
The whole phone interior is warm much of the time too, more stress.
Just the nature of having a finite lifespan. On a heavily used device you'll get 1-2 years lifespan.
It's no big deal, simply replace it when it's capacity drops below roughly 80% of it's original capacity to avoid a battery failure which can heavily damage, even destroy the device.
Replacing the battery is just part of using and maintaining the phone.
Even the N10+'s battery replacement which isn't rated as easy really is not that difficult once you learn the tricks. Just replace with a battery made in Nam, not China and use a new OEM seal on the rear cover.
The "permanent battery" stuff is just hype for most phones. There are a few exceptions.
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So you charge your N10+ daily with a faster charger? And always to full 100%?
Well, if mine would last perhaps another 2 years, even doing this, I'd already be happy
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So you charge your N10+ daily with a faster charger? And always to full 100%?
Well, if mine would last perhaps another 2 years, even doing this, I'd already be happy
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Mostly always use fast charging. Not real concerned about replacing the battery but I do limit the level of discharge/charge.
Very rarely to 100% or below 30%
Li's like frequent midrange power cycling.
Typically 40-50 to 70-85% two or three times a day.
Overnight I try to start it at 50-70%
Don't start a charge if below 72F.
Never attempt to charge at 40F or less.
Optimum start temperature is 82-90F
Cool if it goes beyond 100F when charging.
Short midrange charge cycles create less heat and stress.
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Li's like frequent midrange power cycling.
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BTW, what's 'Li'?
Lithium