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Sony Xperia S Camera comparison vs Arc

I went to a Sony Mobile "Insider on Tour" event tonight and got the chance to have a look at the S, P, and U.. I also took 2 photo's one with my current arc, and one with the S.. I've stuck them together, side by side and here's the result.. The camera on the S is incredible.
[EDIT : FYI - I took both pictures with default settings.. and the S photo was taken from standby to test the quick shot feature.. it took the photo in under 2 seconds.. easily. The 2 photo's were cropped and I used the left hand side of each to make this image, no post processing on the image quality at all.. just cropped and added the labels.]
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Interesting. Look at the seat numbers, and the seats at the back... The Arc resolves them, the S does not.
The S may have better shadow noise, but it looks like the Arc has better detail. Of course, for the S, you did not have that bright spotlight in the frame to throw off metering either

Rashkae said:
Of course, for the S, you did not have that bright spotlight in the frame to throw off metering either
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I think he cropped that out of the S' photo.

Not a fair comparison IMO. Would be a much better one without those light sources.
Anyways, it does seem the picture taken by arc to have more resolved detail.

Haha, Arc seems better!

Could you post some more pics, please?
Snapdragon S3 keeps me away from the new devices, but the camera might change that.
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I did crop the two photos...just took the left side of each.
The handling of the light sources was what made it such a good comparison..
I only had it in my hand for 2 minutes so only managed to take that photo and Bluetooth it to my arc..
The s handled amazingly well.. And the camera really was very impressive..
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I have unfortunately read a review for the Xperia s that states the camera as having the same jpeg compression as the arc s, ray and neo. I truly hope this isn't the case as I was extremely let down but the quality from the arc s camera.
I believe this review might have been posted on Engadget today?
If anyone has some proper hands on experience with some outdoors shots compared to arc s, iPhone 4s and sgs2, please post your findings on which has the better detail and quality, megapixels withstanding.

Flo95 said:
Could you post some more pics, please?
Snapdragon S3 keeps me away from the new devices, but the camera might change that.
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What's wrong with that? It's a decent chipset.

harlz said:
I have unfortunately read a review for the Xperia s that states the camera as having the same jpeg compression as the arc s, ray and neo. I truly hope this isn't the case as I was extremely let down but the quality from the arc s camera.
I believe this review might have been posted on Engadget today?
If anyone has some proper hands on experience with some outdoors shots compared to arc s, iPhone 4s and sgs2, please post your findings on which has the better detail and quality, megapixels withstanding.
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There are some photos posted in xperia s forum. One user posted there a link for full size images captured by the device. Haven't checked in 100% magnification though.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530157
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doomed151 said:
What's wrong with that? It's a decent chipset.
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New flagship devices use the S4 (like HTC One X). It's as fast as the Tegra 3. Also the rumoured Hayabusa/Mint from Sony (autumn flagship) will have the S4.

sdk16420 said:
New flagship devices use the S4 (like HTC One X). It's as fast as the Tegra 3. Also the rumoured Hayabusa/Mint from Sony (autumn flagship) will have the S4.
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Maybe because of time constraints to test S4 platform for Q1 release? Xperia S is now on sale. HTC S4 devices will come this Q2.
Waiting for an S4 device with Sony branding!

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S4 chipset is as fast as Tegra 3, so the S3 chipset is slow in comparison.
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The quality doesn't look much different. Maybe a bit, but I think the arc is still pretty decent.

Are there any more comparisons?

N8 camera owns arc& xperia s cameras - sad, but true . N8>X10>XS>arc

[REQUEST] Real world photos

I'm toying with the idea of getting one of these cameras, maybe it's a bit too soon to ask but, can some of you with the camera, post some photos you've taken with it, real world photos from actual owners and not just press shots.
Not really fussed if you've used the built in apps for editing the images you post, as it will just add to the "things you can do with this device" I just want to get the opinions from actual users who have spent their hard earned cash on it and get their points of view about their experience with it, what the performance is like, how good/poor is the daily use image quality of the camera like, whether you think it was worth the £399 etc... etc....
TIA.
Swyped, from my finger to your face, on my Samsung Galaxy Note II

Real Photo Taken By Me
Here is a Macro:
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A Rich Tone:
And a Normal:

Slow Motion Video
Here is a Slow Motion Video:
http://youtu.be/tcQtKfO16bo

Some more pictures
I took these photos this morning...
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Interesting. Some purple camera flare in the shoot with the sun. Just like the Iphone 5

Here's a handful I took a few days ago.. (Dropbox Link)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sgjjatb3zv06ib8/_VGWEPCPiq

It all looks really good, has anyone ventured into the manual settings much?
Swyped, from my finger to your face, on my Samsung Galaxy Note II

apprentice said:
Here's a handful I took a few days ago.. (Dropbox Link)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sgjjatb3zv06ib8/_VGWEPCPiq
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Nice shots - just got my galaxy cam but don't have any paths nearly that beautiful to walk with it. Would love to see photo spheres come this device.

I'm no photo bug but those look like some nice shots to me.
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Here are 3 live videos of Gary Barlow on Monday evening. I was stood well back hence the enhanced shaking hand effect http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLb4AsPYRrYlN6bcceKarcDlCtMSf_Ueui

The Moon
This a picture I shot of the moon using manual settings.

Video quality is really good, and surprisingly so is the sound.
Swyped, from my finger to your face, on my Samsung Galaxy Note II

I've bought the camera on the very first day of availability, 7th November, directly in London's Samsung flagship store at 5pm when the boxes were brought in I might be the first to have bought the camera officially...
However, on my Flickr account I've collected some pictures that I've made since then.
The lens is amazing, the CMOS chip not so, zooming into pictures details become just a mess of pixels. Or should I say mash?
But it's just a point-and-shooter and it does very good pictures at low light. Unless you don't zoom in too much, that is.

paulikxp said:
I've bought the camera on the very first day of availability, 7th November, directly in London's Samsung flagship store at 5pm when the boxes were brought in I might be the first to have bought the camera officially...
However, on my Flickr account I've collected some pictures that I've made since then.
The lens is amazing, the CMOS chip not so, zooming into pictures details become just a mess of pixels. Or should I say mash?
But it's just a point-and-shooter and it does very good pictures at low light. Unless you don't zoom in too much, that is.
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I know it's a bit apple and oranges but which one would you consider this one, or the Sony. I currently have 2 S3s in my household + my current phone is Note 2. Maybe that's a bit too much of the Galaxy goodness, what do you think?

victorator said:
I currently have 2 S3s in my household + my current phone is Note 2. Maybe that's a bit too much of the Galaxy goodness, what do you think?
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Haha, I sold my S3 and a Nexus 7 to help fund the purchase of a Note II and the Galaxy Camera, I considered keeping the S3 at one point, as I love Samsung's Galaxy range! So now the camera and Note II are my absolute favourite gadgets of all time ツ
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Cape Manza in Okinawa/Japan
Hello, I shoot two pictures at Cape Manza.
One is the bird with tele-mode(zoom-in), other one is the cap with wide-mode(zoom-out).
I shoot with out the tri-pod.
Thanks.
riki0081 from Japan.

I took these shots of the weekend at a bodybuilding show... The battery lasted for about 4 hours of very use... I was using the picpush app to stream photos to facebook as I was taking them... This is a very cool device! remove the space in the url lol
facebook dot com/media/set/?set=a.10151155433826297.435735.584311296&type=1&l=87f30869cc

After seeing lots of photos from you guys I don't think I will be getting this camera. I will go for the sony hx20 or lumix tz30 (leaning towards the lumix, although sony kills it with image stabilization and speed of operation).

victorator said:
After seeing lots of photos from you guys I don't think I will be getting this camera. I will go for the sony hx20 or lumix tz30 (leaning towards the lumix, although sony kills it with image stabilization and speed of operation).
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That's your decision... but both of them are not comparable to the Galaxy Camera in my opinion as they don't come with Android/touchscreen/3G.
I think only somebody who really wants those features will buy the Galaxy not because of its picture quality, which is good but far from perfect.

Jelly beans
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Camera Problem goes Worldwide thanks to us !

Good Morning from Germany,
Sony have officialy answered on this Problem here you can read that :
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/126134
Now i decided to write an Email to XPERIABLOG.NET that they should something about the Cameraproblem or an image comparison between
HTC One, Galaxy S4 and Xperia Z
Here is the Email :
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and here you can read the article about this Comparison :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/04/18/camera-shootout-xperia-z-goes-up-against-the-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/

It's good that this gets more attention, but I don't hope that Sony will only look at this problem as a compression problem, because there is a lot more wrong here.

Sorry but I've had a good test of the Sony camera compared to HTC one and galaxy s3 and the xperia camera edges it barring the odd bit of over compression but I'll take it for less noise and better colour reproduction than both those phones
I believe the z has bigger fish to fry like unforgivable viewing angles, awful speaker quality, lag and ui skipping issues, over heating and odd and inconsistent battery life.
I loved this phone on face value but the more I use it the more I pick it apart
The camera is by far it's best attribute and is better than its competitors right now even if the photos are a little soft.

biffsmash said:
I believe the z has bigger fish to fry like unforgivable viewing angles, awful speaker quality, lag and ui skipping issues, over heating and odd and inconsistent battery life.
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Viewing angles: You want to look at the phone from a 45 degree angle? For what reason? Or do you love that other people can read your text's?
Aweful speaker quality: Ok lets put a better speaker in, but remove the whole concept of the phone being water proof/resistant
Lag: Yeah lag..... where!?
ui skipping issues: ??? Examples please.
Over heating: Name 1 phone that doesn't overheat, isn't it logical that the processor becomes hot when it need to process something big?? Since our phone's are made out of glass we will notice it even more, since glass is a good heat conductor (You could/should've known that before you bought the phone)
Inconsistent battery life : Partly true, it also has to do with the apps that you run, so you can't really blame Sony for that.
ANYWAYS.....this topic is about the camera so lets leave other issues aside.

What's all this about the camera, the Zs camera is easily the best I've ever seen. Stop using reviews as a basis for a petition. Many of these sites have their own agenda. I've repeatedly heard them say the Zs camera is worse than that of the iPhone. Well they could have fooled me. That claim doesn't stand up at all. It's biased stupidity.
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zodiac100 said:
What's all this about the camera, the Zs camera is easily the best I've ever seen. Stop using reviews as a basis for a petition. Many of these sites have their own agenda. I've repeatedly heard them say the Zs camera is worse than that of the iPhone. Well they could have fooled me. That claim doesn't stand up at all. It's biased stupidity.
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I don't know about other people, but I've got my own pictures as a reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38823948&postcount=39
Not mine, but you can clearly see that there is too much noise:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38847402&postcount=41
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38858346&postcount=46
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39024438&postcount=76

Dsteppa said:
I don't know about other people, but I've got my own pictures as a reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38823948&postcount=39
Not mine, but you can clearly see that there is too much noise:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38847402&postcount=41
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38858346&postcount=46
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39024438&postcount=76
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One of those guys said:
Amazing low light shots..not possible with my previous phones to look so clear (S3 and iphone5).
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You should not expect the same quality pic in a macro shot than in a night shot. With other phone, in those conditions, you would get a nice black photo. In Xperia Z you get a noisy pic, but at least it's not black.

I have to agree with the issue here. Before I even looked at the Xperia subforum, after coming from an S3, I knew straight away that I couldn't take a half decent picture and after 30 or 40 shots didn't get a single image I could use.
I could get a perfect picture on my S3, default settings almost every time, and if not, certainly the second time.
Nobody can say that's placebo caused by popular belief because I never even saw the complaints until I had decided for myself the picture quality was apalling.

the camera app itself is a big problem because it was ported from x1,x2 (windows phones) and tweaked a bit. guys who have/had x1 or x2 know what im talking about
when sony finally makes new or updates camera app some problems might go away

Some camera problems are dued to picture softness. Camera360 automatically "improves" the quality with a focus filter, you should test it.

Sony Xperia Z3: pink spot in the middle of the pictures

Hello!
I'm the owner of a brand new Xperia Z3, which I bought in major part for the camera, but i noticed a pink spot in the middle of many picture, most of the time when i take a picture of plain white/grey/brown surfaces. It seems that i'm not alone since at least 10 other owners reported the same problem on the Xperia support forum:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Z3-Dual/Pink-spot-with-xperia-z3-camera/m-p/839421#U839421
I post some pictures that I and other owners uploaded on the forum:
If you have the same issue; please go to the sony xperia support forum and make your voice heard
the adress is: http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Z3-Dual/Pink-spot-with-xperia-z3-camera/m-p/839421#U839421
In addition, don't forget to vote for the REDDIT of this issue in order to raise awareness:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2kdwtw/sony_xperia_z3_owners_do_you_also_have_a_pink/
Thanks !

Seeing these threads makes me get tired of the Sony Xperia Z3 as a whole. Reminds me of the time of the HTC One M7. Here is another related thread on a defective camera or software processing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/xperia-z3-camera-purple-tint-lots-noise-t2917459.
Shots with one of the Z3, on SUPERIOR AUTO mode:
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This is sickening!

Yeah I have it too, although it doesn't seems to be as bad as yours. Maybe it's a focus thing?

Having the same issue and posted on the Sony Mobile link you added, hopefully Sony can get it fixed.
Read a lot of reports of Z3C owners having the same problems.

Wow! I'd send this phone back, it should NOT look like that

Can someone confirm that they are NOT having this problem? I want to have some hope it is a software issue, not hardware.

Mine gets the pink areas but more mild but not centered like OP. Mine is definitely not that bad.
Call your nearest TMO store and tell them to reserve a phone on release day and exchange, I am going to do that as mine has severe light leakage from the right side of the frame.

I'm not. Certainly can't recreate it on testing.

Jonathan-H said:
I'm not. Certainly can't recreate it on testing.
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What model/firmware are you running?

color shading
It's called color shading..
you can see it in this review. Mine also has this issue indoor.
connect.dpreview.com/post/9735822205/dxomark-mobile-report-sony-xperia-z3
"On the downside, DxO says "color shading is visible in some outdoor pictures and low light conditions and strong flare is noticeable in sunny backlit outdoor scenes." "

Good thing this was brought up, I will test the new phone's camera at a TMO store before I exchange.

Are you guys having this problem with the tmobile variant of the phone? I have the international D6603 and I don't have the pink spot in the middle.

b1969 said:
Are you guys having this problem with the tmobile variant of the phone? I have the international D6603 and I don't have the pink spot in the middle.
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T-Mobile (D6616) here.
Mine is more diffuse but not as bad as those pics.

abhinav.tella said:
T-Mobile (D6616) here.
Mine is more diffuse but not as bad as those pics.
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I had the same issue with my old HTC One M7, had a pinkish tint around the edge. I had to call HTC and shipped the phone to them so they can replaced the camera sensor.

Looks like OPs photos made it to Phonearena. Hope Sony is listening.
Article:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Xper...t-a-pink-blotch-issue-with-the-camera_id62206

I also have the issue but sooo much less u don't notice fast,only users who use camera often will notice

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I also have the issue but sooo much less u don't notice fast,only users who use camera often will notice
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Yep mine is more like yours.

Mine has that pink spot as well, t-mobile version. I can't really notice it during videos but certain pictures you can sort of see it, this sucks.

I'm also seeing this on the Z3 compact but it doesn't seem as bad as the OP. Mine seems much worse when I snap pics of blue things. White I'll get it but not as bad as when I shoot blue.
Edit: Does anyone have one that DOESN'T do this? I'm still within my exchange period for my Z3C. Wondering if I should risk the exchange and have the same issue (if not a worse issue) on the new unit.

graffixnyc said:
I'm also seeing this on the Z3 compact but it doesn't seem as bad as the OP. Mine seems much worse when I snap pics of blue things. White I'll get it but not as bad as when I shoot blue.
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Wow that's as bad as OP's.

Z5 camera VS Iphone6 plus, SGS6, LG G4, Z3

Here they did a test with most new phones including the Z5! Shame i cant link the photo's directly so you have to go to the link it self http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-Xperia-Z5-vs-iPhone-6-Plus-vs-S6-vs-Z3-vs-G4-camera-samples-comparison_id73408
The Z5 takes pretty awesome shots and its way better then the z3 camera. The colors look so much more correct and in some phones it beats the sgs6.
Edit:
http://support.sonymobile.com/us/contactUs/phone/?region=en_US and ask if they can add RAW support

I like iphone 6 plus more.

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I like iphone 6 plus more.
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the red on the iphone looks washed out or better said, the amount of light on the car is captured more on it. the z5 captures the real color from my perspective

In my opinion Z5 is better than Iphone 6+ and GS6, colors of the 2 is slightly saturated.

Regardless of color accuracy, the resolution increase still does not helps getting sharper images. There is too much noise reduction applied, especially compared to iPhone 6. Apple here does a decent job although I'd rather have much more noise and no NR applied in camera. Worst offender is LG, which applies an insane post-NR sharpening.
I think we should wait for production samples and hopefully some 3rd party app that can leverage better on this new sensor. Otherwise there is no real advantage against Samsung or Apple.
As for color accuracy, it really comes down to the app and how much processing is done. On my screen (which is calibrated, but it's not best quality panel) and to my eye Z5 has decent overall color rendition, but I prefer the G4 in the first picture (less punch but the overall colors are more accurate) and the iPhone in the third.
In the end, we are not yet at compact camera level - maybe next iteration (z6 or z7 or whatever they will call it). I'd really love to have an RX100 performance squeezed into a phone

Found a site with more samples pics from the Z5 vs note 5. http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ Its a close call but Z5 wins when its shoots a photo in the dark tho.
All photo's on the left side are made by Z5 and right side is the note 5
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RiTCHiE007 said:
Found a site with more samples pics from the Z5 vs note 5. http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ Its a close call but Z5 wins when its shoots a photo in the dark tho.
All photo's on the left side are made by Z5 and right side is the note 5
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Am I the only one seeing that low light photos look good on Note 5. Specially the example you gave, Note 5 has more details compared to Z5. Yea we all know that Samsung dose produce more warmer pics which makes the photo looks yellowish, but if you take a closer look the noise reduction is so aggressive in Z5.
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P.S: Ah no wonder you seem to mix up the two photos. Note 5 indeed do look better here.

Sony for some reason still cannot make a good camera. Note 5 does look much better in almost every situation.
Also look at the sky in that one pictre. Z5 completely burnt while Note 5 shows some nice detail

http://www.uberlin.co.uk/berlin-moments-september-7th-september-15th/
These pictures looks awesome. and yea it got lotta details too. We need further tests to see how it's done. Since they can always get it right with software.
New camera module absolutely promising. Specially colour accuracy.

CandyAndy said:
Sony for some reason still cannot make a good camera. Note 5 does look much better in almost every situation.
Also look at the sky in that one pictre. Z5 completely burnt while Note 5 shows some nice detail
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Think its time you get some glasses bro. The first one and clearly the best low light photo is made with the Z5 not the note. Even if you zoom in on the billboard etc you see that the note blurs and has to much overexposed. But both are good camera's tho/.

chesterr said:
http://www.uberlin.co.uk/berlin-moments-september-7th-september-15th/
These pictures looks awesome. and yea it got lotta details too. We need further tests to see how it's done. Since they can always get it right with software.
New camera module absolutely promising. Specially colour accuracy.
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WOW those pictures look indeed pretty awesome!!! But they are taken by a pro tho with a tripod.

I am a Sony Fan But i Must admit the samsung note 5 is killing sony camera what a poor detail in z5 i hope there is improvement in the last release

Yea Note 5 has a great camera indeed, but I am pretty sure this is related to Software, and eprice device doesn't have the latest camera UI that means it's not running on the latest build, so untill then we can't really say which is better.
But overall Sony has good colour accuracy when it's day-time, I hope it'll be fixed with updates. I really want is more control over the camera such as Manual shutter speed and raw. Hope to see more improvement before the phone's released.

Sony has never been good at software, just hardware. It's just a... Mystery
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Sony has never been good at software, just hardware. It's just a... Mystery
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Specially when it comes to Camera software they don't seem to be doing great.

I am always surprised that despite making good cameras and selling camera parts to other phone manufacturers, Sony phones have the worse cameras in the mobile phone industry. The Z3 camera is terrible relative to Apples and Samsungs and their previous phones were even worse. Hopefully they finally fix it with the Z5.

Wow....

chesterr said:
Yea Note 5 has a great camera indeed, but I am pretty sure this is related to Software, and eprice device doesn't have the latest camera UI that means it's not running on the latest build, so untill then we can't really say which is better.
But overall Sony has good colour accuracy when it's day-time, I hope it'll be fixed with updates. I really want is more control over the camera such as Manual shutter speed and raw. Hope to see more improvement before the phone's released.
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What latest camera ui?

I love LG G4 most

King p1n said:
What latest camera ui?
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