Backlight bleeding - Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General

Got my notepro wifi yesterday and i noticed (while watching a movie during the evening) that there is some backlight bleeding.
- Bleeding is almost non existing during the day (with TL light above my head)
- Most is coming from the bottom
I like to know if this is going to be something common or a reason to get my tablet replaced.
Could be i'm too picky but for spending 750 euro's i only want the best
ps in the evening i'll make some pictures to be linked in this post

This is my biggest worry with tablets like this. Spent tons of money, and you get little light bleeds that become very annoying.
I went through a dozen Note 10.1 tablets, and best buy hated me for it, trying to get one that didnt have light bleed. Only to accidentally leave it on the roof of the car one day and have it slide across the interstate on ramp median. Came back and foundit still functioning but had to snap the case back together in some spots and it now had massive light bleed.
The concern of needing to return a tablet for light bleed is the sole reason I am not ordering online. I am going into a store to buy a device. So I can return it immediately.
I will say that it doesnt bother me if it is just how its supposed to be. The note 8.0 tablets all had light bleed on them, and it never really got ot me, because I knew it was no better on any other note 8.0 .

I've contacted the store where i bought it and they said i can exchange the tablet for a new one.
Tonight i'm going to inspect it further and see if it's really going to bother me.
If so, i'm getting it replaced by a new one which hopefully doesn't have the light bleeding.

A friend and I recently bought identical 2014 note 10.1 tablets and they both had a very small amount of light bleed, mostly along the bottom. I've also had lots of tablets over the years and its quite common.
I'm willing to live with it if its barely noticeable. But any more and it goes back, including the notepro I'm waiting for.

phoenixbennu said:
This is my biggest worry with tablets like this. Spent tons of money, and you get little light bleeds that become very annoying.
I went through a dozen Note 10.1 tablets, and best buy hated me for it, trying to get one that didnt have light bleed. Only to accidentally leave it on the roof of the car one day and have it slide across the interstate on ramp median. Came back and foundit still functioning but had to snap the case back together in some spots and it now had massive light bleed.
The concern of needing to return a tablet for light bleed is the sole reason I am not ordering online. I am going into a store to buy a device. So I can return it immediately.
I will say that it doesnt bother me if it is just how its supposed to be. The note 8.0 tablets all had light bleed on them, and it never really got ot me, because I knew it was no better on any other note 8.0 .
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Bestbuy hated me too, did the same thing with my N8. Hard to check in store, but tell them u will before you walk out with it.
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markklok said:
Got my notepro wifi yesterday and i noticed (while watching a movie during the evening) that there is some backlight bleeding.
- Bleeding is almost non existing during the day (with TL light above my head)
- Most is coming from the bottom
I like to know if this is going to be something common or a reason to get my tablet replaced.
Could be i'm too picky but for spending 750 euro's i only want the best
ps in the evening i'll make some pictures to be linked in this post
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Did it have Magazine UX or not?

Hmm capturing light bleed is tougher then i thought
What do you guys think... Acceptable or return for a new one.
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markklok said:
Hmm capturing light bleed is tougher then i thought
What do you guys think... Acceptable or return for a new one.
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The bottom looks like pretty "normal" minor backlight bleed, or at least fairly common enough. The top portion might just be from the angle and actually appears to be IPS glow, which is perfectly normal for that type of display.
If it shifts when you move, it's IPS glow, and is normal. If it's always there, light bleed. Just a matter of how bad it is and how much it bothers you.
And also don't forget... if you're looking for a problem, you'll probably find one. Watch videos with normal brightness in your normal viewing environments. If it looks good there, I wouldn't worry about it. :good:

markklok said:
I've contacted the store where i bought it and they said i can exchange the tablet for a new one.
Tonight i'm going to inspect it further and see if it's really going to bother me.
If so, i'm getting it replaced by a new one which hopefully doesn't have the light bleeding.
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Are you in the USA? I see only stores selling them online. Which stores are carrying them in the store?

The Netherlands.
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Best buy has them; I know my local store has them in stock. Vaguely I think fry also has them but not 100% sure as they are not local to me.
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Are you in the USA? I see only stores selling them online. Which stores are carrying them in the store?
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I swapped mine for a new one today and guess what... Same type of light bleeding.
So it'll probably be the same for all devices.

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Best buy has them; I know my local store has them in stock. Vaguely I think fry also has them but not 100% sure as they are not local to me.
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Yes Frys has them in my area...I picked one up from them locally on 2/13 as soon as they opened their doors. I was looking at their site last night and the store pickup was still unavailable, which would indicate to a person searching for one that they aren't available in-store. If you plan to pickup one from frys, I would definitely call first to verify availability in your area.
Side note...I would have purchased from Best Buy(reward points), but when I called the day before release, 2/12/14, the employee told me they wouldn't start selling them until Friday 2/14/14. After I purchased from frys on 2/13, I found out they were indeed selling them in store Thursday. I was misinformed AGAIN by best buys finest. Oh well, their lost frys gain, don't know why I took her word on face value because I know how misinformed best buy employees can be.

markklok said:
Hmm capturing light bleed is tougher then i thought
What do you guys think... Acceptable or return for a new one.
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That's looks about the same amounts of light bleed that I have on mine. I went thought this when I had my OG ASUS Transformer. I went back and exchanged it for anther one and got even more light bleed.
If you look on the web for light bleed is quite common and even the Apple iPads all have a small degree of light bleed on them.
If it really bothers you I would go back to best buy and make them open the box in front of you and test them out before you leave. That's the only way to make sure you got one you like.
As one of the other posters mentioned if you keep looking at it and stressing about it you will notice it more. I would try to ignore it and give it a couple of more days to see if it truly bothers you.
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jake21 said:
Best buy has them; I know my local store has them in stock. Vaguely I think fry also has them but not 100% sure as they are not local to me.
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Thanks Jake21 I will walk into my local Bestbuy store to check out. Online they show not available.

omegafiler said:
And also don't forget... if you're looking for a problem, you'll probably find one. Watch videos with normal brightness in your normal viewing environments. If it looks good there, I wouldn't worry about it. :good:
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Exactly...
When users go out of their way to create use cases that have almost zero similarities to every day use just to find a problem, they're going to find a problem. The picture looks pretty normal for a tablet. And how often do you sit in total darkness with a lit up black screen on your tablet? As long as there isn't light bleed from between where the plastic and glass meet I'm pretty sure you're good.

Some light bleed here, but not enough for me to exchange it.
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Not seeing any light bleed here.
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I've noticed light bleed just like the above picture. But i only notice it on the bottom. It really doesn't bother me. I am having an issue with strange video glitches. It started when i was trying to watch a video on the bloomberg app and then padgram. I get vertical lines on the screen and then it turns black. I press the back button a couple of times to exit and then everything is normal. I did a reset just to be sure everything was fine but it happened to me again this morning while using the scrapbook. Has anyone experienced this?

Haven't had any glitches like that, but only got mine yesterday.
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here is an example of it. I think I have a defective unit.

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Onnia 7 QC issues?

(why is there no omnia 7 forum?)
I've just been told by t-mobile that the Omnia 7 has QC issues and their deliveries yesterday were returned to their suppliers, anyone know what these might be?
I just picked one up today from Orange!.. I wonder if mine is affected
I heard from vodafone store that their delivery of LG Optimus (Win7) came in and had to be recalled immediately without sale due to a bluetooth issue.
The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?
Much more solid than I was expecting. I thought it would feel like a light plastic shell like the Samsung Galaxy S.
It really is very nice, no creaks, just a solid slab of deep black technology! Good times.
The back is actually wrapped in metal to the edge of the screen on the sides, it is only the top and bottom of the device which are solid plastic sort-of-cap/ends of the device.
You definitely can't call it a unibody (or can you?..) but as I say... sort of mostly 'wrapped' in a sheet of metal.
It was a close call between the (SAMOLED) Omnia and the (very nice crisp LCD) HTC Mozart, the latter fits the hand better of course due to size, but in the end the slick all black face of the Omnia, adorned with its high contrast SAMOLED screen, just made it worth it despite the low actual PPI!
It would have been nice if the rockers and camera buttons where more metallic or... metal, but instead they are old school black plastic. They work well nonetheless.
The home button is also not the most premium of push switches (compared to iPhone of course) but it is nice to have a soild key!
I would urge you to get both of these devices side by side in the store if you can, but be careful because it took me at least 20 minutes to tell the man which one I wanted to take out lol...
Here are a few pics of the construction as links:
I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.
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I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.
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It's very un-Microsoft!
Freypal said:
The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?
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Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.
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Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.
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I've owned a few samsungs in the past (years ago lol), and they didn't give me any trouble. I suppose it was before the major smartphone race of the the last few years though haha.
I only went for the Omnia after holding it myself, there was no way I was going to order a Samsung phone without getting into a store and exploring it - but it was more solid than expected.
Hopefully if there are any support problems in the future, I will just take it to the high street store I got it from and play super dumb and demand a replacement or different phone lol... no harm done.
It seems like a negative thing to say but keep in mind that the phone really is good right now, no problems at all, everything works perfectly so far.
Note for those not in the know: the location based issues of Android Samsungs are not present here! On maps it focuses down with GSM triangulation and GPS pinpoint kicks in a couple of seconds later, super speedy!
Well that's a relief. I suppose the biggest factor that makes it feel so much better is that it's got some metal, right?
Mine's just arrived.
First impressions are very good. It feels very sturdy with no creaks and the metal casing is nice. It feels much more solid than my HTC Blackstone, although I am worried about such a large screen getting damaged!
It's going to have to stay off whilst the sim card registers. Annoying wait ahead!
How come you got this over the mozart?
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How come you got this over the mozart?
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I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!
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I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!
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For web browsing I might have thought it possibly more comfortable to use the Mozart's SLCD with RGB pixels (higher subpixel count) if you have good eyes that is lol.
I just cant get over how amazing the 4" SAMOLED looks though...
Because of the all black screen surround, and the nature of the WP7 text laid out to the edge of the screen, it sort of looks like your phone is just one massive display, which a lot of it is... lol
The blacks of the SAMOLED just merge with the black surround! So cool.
Where does the screen end?! lol
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I am a happy omnia 7 owner. Just like what the other said, solid construction, beautiful screen.
But the build in app is sub-par (vs lg optimus) and I hope I don't regret choosing a device with 8GB of storage.
Cheers
A user over on MoDaCo forums is reporting that their T-Mobile account manager has told them that the Omnia 7 has been temporarily pulled due to software issues.
I've been waiting on one of these for some time as well, and was told today that their most recent update for handset stocks (issued internally today) did not include a new batch of Omnia 7s. The CSR I spoke to wouldn't be drawn on any specific problems with the handset, except to say that "there have been a few issues" with the ones we've received, and that I would be receiving a call in due course to let me know when mine would be delivered.
Does anyone else know anything about this?
gcaw - apparently they have dispatched Omnia 7's now on T-mobile, so I'd get on the phone ASAP.
risq - many thanks for letting me know about that. As it happens, fifteen hours after I'd made my previous post, I received a call from T-Mobile to let me know that they had stock and confirming delivery later today, but I'm grateful that you informed me of that - and hopefully others will have taken note of that information and successfully placed orders themselves.
I was also pleased to hear from the CSR (the same one I spoke to yesterday) that T-Mobile is extending the same deal to new Omnia 7 owners as it offers to Android buyers, giving 3GB of monthly data usage at no additional cost, rather than the standard 1GB offered under the fair usage policy for other handsets.
Compared with the rather pitiful 500MB offered on O2's contracts, that's a pretty awesome deal.
QC seems top notch!
Posted this on another forum. I'm happy about the build:
Well it had to happen sooner or later, in under a week I've dropped the Omnia 7 while lazily trying to hit snooze just moments ago (typing this message with my phone now lol). Dropped from about table height, and while it was dark, sounded like it landed on a corner first... Picked it up in the dark and dropped it again, this time hitting face flat on the ground.. My floors got a wood finish on top of a normal concrete slab so its pretty solid. Shocked and not feeling so lazy anymore, turned lights on, inspected phone, and absolutely no scratches to be seen...i think this is due to the matte looking polycarbonate plastic they use, plus the color looking like its been amalgamated with the actual plastic, I say this because I remember on my htc touch HD the bezel would scratch/chip so easily because all it was was some cheap paint over plastic/metal? As for glass, i read it's gorilla glass, whether or not it is, I'm glad it isn't scratched... My screen protector can't come soon enough,
Either way, I'm glad to know the Omnia7 is a solid beast . Though in truth, after dropping it, my excitement and feelings of it being a new toy has slightly washed off... My feeling now is 'it might be damaged somewhere'

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Nice, I was thinking about doing this until I saw your post. I just got the nexus S tonite and I must say I am pretty impressed with it so far. Especially the auto restore of the market apps. I am in pretty much the same scenario as you, I got mom to buy the phone in US and I am in Asia, so returning it is pretty much not an option.
A little peeved at a few things tho, how did you get around these?
01. Got the same back button problem.. but not too concerned about it
02. Tried to play pocket legends, and it hanged the phone in about 5 mins.. as in no force close just hang.. had to do a take out battery and restart
03. Where is the video player in this thing? do not see it in the apps, installed rock player.. hating the ads, but wanting to see if there is any better options before committing to the big price they are asking for
04. got the screen protector from best buy and it is so much fail that it is not funny Hoping that there will be better options pretty soon.
However all in all, I am still quite happy with it just small stuff.. which I guess I had when the i9000 came out too
Nice review, let us know if you have any more thoughts in a few more days.
suomaf said:
Nice, I was thinking about doing this until I saw your post. I just got the nexus S tonite and I must say I am pretty impressed with it so far. Especially the auto restore of the market apps. I am in pretty much the same scenario as you, I got mom to buy the phone in US and I am in Asia, so returning it is pretty much not an option.
A little peeved at a few things tho, how did you get around these?
01. Got the same back button problem.. but not too concerned about it
02. Tried to play pocket legends, and it hanged the phone in about 5 mins.. as in no force close just hang.. had to do a take out battery and restart
03. Where is the video player in this thing? do not see it in the apps, installed rock player.. hating the ads, but wanting to see if there is any better options before committing to the big price they are asking for
04. got the screen protector from best buy and it is so much fail that it is not funny Hoping that there will be better options pretty soon.
However all in all, I am still quite happy with it just small stuff.. which I guess I had when the i9000 came out too
Nice review, let us know if you have any more thoughts in a few more days.
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The video player is part of the Gallery app, if you have videos on the external storage it will show up there. I use mVideoPlayer, it's free and I'm quite happy with it although it doesn't have MKV support.
About the Back button at first I though I had the same problem with my unit. But then I realized that the issue was happening only when I used my left hand to hold the phone and my left thumb to touch the back button. I started paying attention to this and I finally noticed that I wasn't touching the actual button, but the 'dead' area on the side of it. See the picture below:
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When I thought the button was unresponsive I was actually touching the area in red, but the sensitive area is the highlighted in blue. This is probably due to my previous device being a Milestone which had the back button very close to the corner. Maybe you guys are doing the same thing or maybe I'm the only one dumb enough to do this and my unit is not defective hahaha.
edit: oh, and I'm on the same ship of you guys. I can't return the device and I'm afraid I have the screen issue when the brightness is set to low and the gray tones get all weird. I'm used to it though lol
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The video player is part of the Gallery app, if you have videos on the external storage it will show up there. I use mVideoPlayer, it's free and I'm quite happy with it although it doesn't have MKV support.
About the Back button at first I though I had the same problem with my unit. But then I realized that the issue was happening only when I used my left hand to hold the phone and my left thumb to touch the back button. I started paying attention to this and I finally noticed that I wasn't touching the actual button, but the 'dead' area on the side of it. See the picture below:
When I thought the button was unresponsive I was actually touching the area in red, but the sensitive area is the highlighted in blue. This is probably due to my previous device being a Milestone which had the back button very close to the corner. Maybe you guys are doing the same thing or maybe I'm the only one dumb enough to do this and my unit is not defective hahaha.
edit: oh, and I'm on the same ship of you guys. I can't return the device and I'm afraid I have the screen issue when the brightness is set to low and the gray tones get all weird. I'm used to it though lol
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Mine's the same. I think your motorola had some qc tolerance issue. :s13:
nicholasbgr said:
When I thought the button was unresponsive I was actually touching the area in red, but the sensitive area is the highlighted in blue. This is probably due to my previous device being a Milestone which had the back button very close to the corner. Maybe you guys are doing the same thing or maybe I'm the only one dumb enough to do this and my unit is not defective hahaha.
edit: oh, and I'm on the same ship of you guys. I can't return the device and I'm afraid I have the screen issue when the brightness is set to low and the gray tones get all weird. I'm used to it though lol
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Thankyou so much for that! I was starting to worry about my back button not working properly, and I really don't want to have to pay to get it shipped back for repairs, then shipped over here again. I will see if this helps me!
No reason not to voice an opinion! We are some of those who took an expensive plunge outside the retail regions and may find useful things for other people. So your questions in order:
01. I will possibly exchange mine when next in the UK, as suggested below it might be a bit off but I have spent an hour or so just testing the button with different fingers and pressure since I know my index finger tip is less conductive than the flat. Tough skin! I think it is a widespread defect but a defect nonetheless.
02. I have had one total lockup so far, sounds exactly the same. It was not in a game that I recall and honestly did not note what did it since it was just the once but given you had it happen in a game and Gingerbread is so new it would not be entirely unreasonable to put it down to some OpenGL hangup. The Hummingbird in the Nexus S has one of the faster GPU's on the market and also some media extensions called NEON, combine this with some new UI hardware acceleration with the GPU and... Well these things seem likely to happen.
03. As nicholasbgr said the Gallery is the video player. Android stock is very basic. Something I need to mention actually is that the Galaxy S is a very capable media machine out the box.
04. I had a Zagg InvisibleShield for my Motorola Milestone before finding out it was Gorilla Glass. Super, super tough. A little hard to apply since it does not simple glue on but very much worth looking into. They claim a lifetime warranty on your device if something scratches through the film.
Thanks for the reply too, I will check back to the other replies in a bit but I have to run from the computer for now!
suomaf said:
Nice, I was thinking about doing this until I saw your post. I just got the nexus S tonite and I must say I am pretty impressed with it so far. Especially the auto restore of the market apps. I am in pretty much the same scenario as you, I got mom to buy the phone in US and I am in Asia, so returning it is pretty much not an option.
A little peeved at a few things tho, how did you get around these?
01. Got the same back button problem.. but not too concerned about it
02. Tried to play pocket legends, and it hanged the phone in about 5 mins.. as in no force close just hang.. had to do a take out battery and restart
03. Where is the video player in this thing? do not see it in the apps, installed rock player.. hating the ads, but wanting to see if there is any better options before committing to the big price they are asking for
04. got the screen protector from best buy and it is so much fail that it is not funny Hoping that there will be better options pretty soon.
However all in all, I am still quite happy with it just small stuff.. which I guess I had when the i9000 came out too
Nice review, let us know if you have any more thoughts in a few more days.
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i got mine! - metallic grey

will post some thoughts once i get to spend a good amount of time with it
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did you get it at a Best Buy in NYC? If so, which one?!?
Very nice ,that is a plastic shell still right?
yes at the Best Buy in NoHo. seems to be the only Best Buy around here that has the grey one right now. the back is indeed plastic, but it is a nice quality.. it almost does have a metallic feel to it with the texture. the rim around it is metal. build quality and display are excellent.. no creaks or looseness at all.. backlight is very even.. no leaks at all. blacks on the screen are nice and deep. and the screen doesn't seem to attract fingerprints much.
let me know if you guys have any more questions
ah you got the 16gb I believe...I am looking for the 32. Slim pickins for that model in one of the biggest markets on the official launch day. cant make this stuff up.
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ah you got the 16gb I believe...I am looking for the 32. Slim pickins for that model in one of the biggest markets on the official launch day. cant make this stuff up.
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You haven't been paying attention to Apple over the past few years then. It's all about hype. I'm 100% convinced, shortages and delays are on purpose.
Look for lag on websites and using the keyboard on other sites/apps
Any loose panel near edges (Glass seperation) ?
Did you get the usb adaptor yet ?
Battery life ?
Any heat issues with back of tablet ?
WiFi issues if any ?
Connecting to computer issues ?
Best Buy at Columbus Circle (Broadway & 62nd) have the grey metallic back one, though I didn't check if they had 32gb too.
The grey metallic is absolutely sleek. I like the look and feel of it much better than the white (which I purchased last week and exchanged to grey today).
One small feature not oft mentioned in the grey is that the metal rim on the grey model is matte grey, not the shiny silver of the white. It's a small difference, but makes for a much more subdued and professional look (read: not ipad-ish).
The textured back (though plastic) also makes it feel better when you hold it in your hand, since you have the ever slight friction from the brushed pattern. Also, of course, grey less flashy and more serious (reminded me of other Android tablets like Xoom, Flyer, but of course, way way lighter!)
Form factor-wise, I don't think you can go wrong with the grey GT 10.1!
you think the grey looks better than the white after having both. i got the white on the 8th and really like it, but i'm returning it, and will be getting the grey from costco(only color they have). It looked sort of plain in the pictures and i tend to like a little more flash in things, hope its as nice as you say.
I got the grey version as well. The store gave me a white one by mistake. Good thing I checked it before I left.
The back is textured so it doesn't slip and slide around in my lap like the Acer did.
I also do not hear any squeaks while holding it.
Just called my local BB and they do have them in the store, but will not be displaying them until Sunday. Kind of a weird delay considering that it is supposed to be a hot new release.
Got the 16 grey one today. It's nice. My 6 year old want let me touch it. He's gaming.
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SR45 said:
Look for lag on websites and using the keyboard on other sites/apps
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i haven't experienced lag yet, and i've been browsing Engadget, XDA, New York Times, Facebook, and various music blogs. i did see a bit of slow down when i was on the Netflix site, scrolling down through my queue.. but that's only because i have about 300 movies on there.
i did notice when i was on the Market.. when i was trying to click on the Search, the keyboard took a bit to pop up. maybe about a 3 sec delay.
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Any loose panel near edges (Glass seperation) ?
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there's no glass separation or any looseness or creaks. my coworker has his Transformer here, and he's gonna return it after trying out my GTab, as his has creaking on the right side. he also noticed that scrolling through YouTube's home page was a bit faster and smoother on the GTab. everyone here at work is impressed with the build quality.. even iPad owners.
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i haven't gotten the USB adapter yet, as the two Best Buys i went to didn't have them in stock yet. i also wanted to get the official Samsung portfolio case, but no one has them yet as well. i'll update once i get them.
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Battery life ?
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battery life - this i'll chime in once i have had it for at least two days or so to give a more accurate info.
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Any heat issues with back of tablet ?
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the tablet has been cool. i've been playing some HD videos, and it has stayed that way so far.
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WiFi issues if any ?
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none. connection has been steady
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Connecting to computer issues ?
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i haven't connected yet (still at work). i'll update once i get to use it at home later
How are you finding the lack of an microsd slot?
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How are you finding the lack of an microsd slot?
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i originally wanted the 32GB, but they are nowhere to be found in the NYC area, so i just got the 16GB. having had a netbook previously, i only used up about 8GBs on that, since my music collection is about 24,000 songs - i have them on my external. so i really only store documents and photos in the internal storage. i haven't installed that many apps yet, but those shouldn't take up much space also. i just started using Amazon Cloud, so i will be testing that out to see how i'll go by day to day with it. i'm also looking into wireless externals as i've been meaning to get a 2nd backup for my music. Seagate has a very nice one. i figure, i could use that to connect to my GTab as well without the hassle of dongles.
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Any loose panel near edges (Glass seperation) ?
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Battery life ?
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Connecting to computer issues ?
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Got a 16 GB white one today morning from BB.
Browser laggy on FB and other javascript heavy websites.
No
No
Not bad. Need to spend some more time to estimate battery life.
No
No issues. Wifi connectivity is actually very good for me.
No issues.
Got mine too.
Kind of fat, heavy, dull screen,...
...oh wait, that was my iPad
This thing rocks!
Got my Metallic Grey 16GB Tab. Loving it! My bestbuy had about 20-30. All models. Bestbuy wasn't displaying them though. Claimed they didn't know where to place them, even though they had a tablet section with just the XOOM and Iconia.
Anyway, I had a XOOM then an iPad 2, then an iconia, then an iPad 2, and now a Tab 10.1. And I think it's a keeper!
Thanks radiohead14 for the answers given. Return as soon as you can to post more information
more thoughts - the speakers are surprisingly pretty good for their size. and I recommend everyone to get Thumb Keyboard. IMO.. much better and convenient than stock. it splits the keyboard so you could easily type with your thumbs. I also prefer Dolphin HD browser - seems to be more stable than stock.

Plastic back slowly getting looser

So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
I'd exchange it if it really bothers you. Mine is snug.
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Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.
cmunho said:
Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.
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You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.
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You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.
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I got the official one. While it may not be worth $50 I like it well enough and it protects from the "everyday". I've never dropped a tablet so I'm not worried about drops.
thank you
Billyvnilly said:
So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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yes the same is
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When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released.
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Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.
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Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.
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The Samsung cover, does it stay closed on the screen just by weight, or do the magnets actually keep it closed?
magnet
I have same problem same area since day 1. Went to exchange, all sold oit! Other 2 problems are lightbleed and loose micro usb port.
maybe you provide us with an image to better describe the situation
Well. It is quite plasticy
I have mine over a week now, and haven't felt it loose. You should trade it mate. I like the bezel of the tab but the plastic is really annoying. There are quite a few cases out there though...
Billyvnilly said:
So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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I got mine a few days ago and I must say I quite like it! The only build issue I have is a somewhat remarkable amount of light bleed along the bottom but it doesn't bother me enough to post a pic of it. Best buy only had one case that didn't look very good so I'm still sporting the protective back covering till more cases are in stock. I have high hopes for this!
I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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It really should be of better build quality for $400. Or it should be at least $100 cheaper. I have the 10.1 and it feels OK, not terribly cheap but not of high quality. I will be putting it up on eBay and going to the 8.0 regardless, due to it being a more pragmatic size for my day to day use. I’m just waiting on the black version.
I had this problem as well. I replaced it at best buy and haven't had a problem with the new one.
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you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Sure the build quality could be better but I haven't had a single issue with mine since I bought it on release day. From the reports here it seems like maybe some of them are not as solid as others.
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you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.
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Oooooooo magnets Are bad man. Not so much for regular phones but for phones with stylus and digitizer it will over time cause dead area s on your screen. Don't believe me ?
Head over to the note 2 forums and check out all the problems with cases involving magnet clasps. If got so bad the companies offered to replace your magnet sealing case with one with a simple button in stead. I had one and as soon as I put it on I started having problems with the area around that magnet.
Just stay away from magnetic cases period. Just trust me. Or mess up big time. Once that part of the screen gets borked its borked
That pic is the replacement one with the button they sent me. Also watch out for those magnetic kickstand cases. Big no no too those utilize neodymium!
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Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.
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Amen thin ness had gone to far. I don't want any thiner devices. Just keep them how they are and make better thinner batteries cpus whatever. Battery tech needs a big overhaul that's our biggest weakness
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Nexus 6 Quality Issues (2 out of 2 phones)

So, I bought a Nexus 6 for my wife and at first it was great. But a few weeks later, she was complaining about the camera. I check it out and there is definitely something wrong. It seems that sometimes when the camera focuses, the optical image stabilizer would jump around. It moves so much, that it seems to hit it's limits and you hear it "click". Makes recording videos useless. Worse than having no stabilizer at all.
We're beyond the 14-day return period for Sprint, so I do an advanced exchange RMA with Motorola. Two days later, the replacement phone arrives. It looks like a brand-new sealed box. But when I take the phone out, I see the back cover is separating from the phone. How does the phone like this even get put into a box? Unless the back cover separated after it was placed inside? I didn't even bother to try to turn it on and contacted Motorola via online chat. We'll see what the next steps are, but so far, I'm not impressed with the quality control. Customer service response is pretty good so far.
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I am not going to say its anyone's fault but could be multiple things .... Have you seen how package companies treat packages they are shipping .... But yes more than likely that is a problem from factory
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Yeah, but not in this case. The box had a few minor dings, but was in otherwise near-perfect condition. The seal was still in perfect shape.
Looks like the battery ploded
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I had the same,
but not with the back cover problem. I had my original Nexus 6 replaced 2 times.
Within 3-4 days of minimal use my nexus 6 was getting a deep scratch on the screen which was very annoying.
This is the 3rd nexus 6 i am using and i did not take out the protector with which it came with until i bought a screen guard.
So i am still worried, if i take out the screen guard it will get a scratch again.
GG3 does not seem to be implemented in nexus 6 i guess.
After three weeks, my camera got progressively worse, taking blurry shots and double exposures,.. Looked like the optical stabilization failed, I got RMA started on 30 Dec, but finally I should receive My replacement today..... Here's hoping I don't have problems.
udimars30 said:
I had the same,
but not with the back cover problem. I had my original Nexus 6 replaced 2 times.
Within 3-4 days of minimal use my nexus 6 was getting a deep scratch on the screen which was very annoying.
This is the 3rd nexus 6 i am using and i did not take out the protector with which it came with until i bought a screen guard.
So i am still worried, if i take out the screen guard it will get a scratch again.
GG3 does not seem to be implemented in nexus 6 i guess.
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I've been using mine for more than two weeks now without any screen protector and the screen is perfect! I even carry it in my bag together with my Lumia 1520 and no problems at all! And Yes, the Nexus 6 IS with Gorilla Glass 3! I've seen people trying very hard to scratch this glass and they have all failed!
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I've been using mine for more than two weeks now without any screen protector and the screen is perfect! I even carry it in my bag together with my Lumia 1520 and no problems at all! And Yes, the Nexus 6 IS with Gorilla Glass 3! I've seen people trying very hard to scratch this glass and they have all failed!
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It scratches Buddy trust me. My nexus 5 has a few
I replaced my att nexus 6 5 times for various problem. I don't want to get it started here. Anyways, I was expecting a lot better build quaility for this price point comparing to N5. I am really disappointed. GG Motorola.
What camera are you using to take the pictures of the Defects?
The warranty process with Motorola is always good. The advance exchange program is what sets Motorola apart from the rest. I had to replace a Moto G once through this program, and very seamless with 2-day shipping.
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So, I bought a Nexus 6 for my wife and at first it was great. But a few weeks later, she was complaining about the camera. I check it out and there is definitely something wrong. It seems that sometimes when the camera focuses, the optical image stabilizer would jump around. It moves so much, that it seems to hit it's limits and you hear it "click". Makes recording videos useless. Worse than having no stabilizer at all.
We're beyond the 14-day return period for Sprint, so I do an advanced exchange RMA with Motorola. Two days later, the replacement phone arrives. It looks like a brand-new sealed box. But when I take the phone out, I see the back cover is separating from the phone. How does the phone like this even get put into a box? Unless the back cover separated after it was placed inside? I didn't even bother to try to turn it on and contacted Motorola via online chat. We'll see what the next steps are, but so far, I'm not impressed with the quality control. Customer service response is pretty good so far.
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What camera are you using to take the pictures of the Defects?
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A Canon 70D with a Sigma 18-35 f/1.8.
Ha, no wonder your pictures are so darn good. I need an SLR!
Thank you.
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A Canon 70D with a Sigma 18-35 f/1.8.
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On my 5th (One DOA). My current device has the loud, clicky haptic feedback. I've had HTC devices that had clicky haptic, but this is the worst I've experienced. I'm just going to keep it unless it gets worse. After all the screen uniformity issues I've seen, I have no energy left to play the RMA lottery anymore.
Love/hate relationship.
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I am getting my T-Mobile warranty phone today next day shipping. OIS failed, bad battery (max 4 hr SOT), yellow screen even when RGB'd and red when low brightness, noisy vibration. Hope this one is better or I'll be jumping to a Z3 possibly. My GF had to warranty her Z3 for a dead LCD so I'm not convinced it'd be better...
ken830 said:
So, I bought a Nexus 6 for my wife and at first it was great. But a few weeks later, she was complaining about the camera. I check it out and there is definitely something wrong. It seems that sometimes when the camera focuses, the optical image stabilizer would jump around. It moves so much, that it seems to hit it's limits and you hear it "click". Makes recording videos useless. Worse than having no stabilizer at all.
We're beyond the 14-day return period for Sprint, so I do an advanced exchange RMA with Motorola. Two days later, the replacement phone arrives. It looks like a brand-new sealed box. But when I take the phone out, I see the back cover is separating from the phone. How does the phone like this even get put into a box? Unless the back cover separated after it was placed inside? I didn't even bother to try to turn it on and contacted Motorola via online chat. We'll see what the next steps are, but so far, I'm not impressed with the quality control. Customer service response is pretty good so far.
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Just a few observations. The phone would never be able to fit in the box with any bulge. Secondly, for a bulge to be that size it would be there are a lot of torque, yet the sides are popping off. The backcover is flexible but not so flexible as to do that where only that portion pops up like that. Perhaps a thin plastic like the Note 4, but not the hard plastic on the Nexus 6. As bad as the QC is, the factory or the guy would have to be insane to let that out of the factory. The visible glue suggests excessive pulling force. Seems like a botched attempt at removing the back to me
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Just a few observations. The phone would never be able to fit in the box with any bulge. Secondly, for a bulge to be that size it would be there are a lot of torque, yet the sides are popping off. The backcover is flexible but not so flexible as to do that where only that portion pops up like that. Perhaps a thin plastic like the Note 4, but not the hard plastic on the Nexus 6. As bad as the QC is, the factory or the guy would have to be insane to let that out of the factory. The visible glue suggests excessive pulling force. Seems like a botched attempt at removing the back to me
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I don't have an obligation to defend myself, but I can assure you that the phone came out of the box like that. The bulge is only on one edge and it is maybe 1/8"? That's not enough to "burst" out of the box. It's definitely close-able, even if the phone is not lying completely flat. But think about this logically -- what reason do I have to make a post like this if I had somehow botched an attempt at removing the back? And what's the reason for removing the back cover anyhow? Is there something I can get to that I'm not aware of? And if I were trying to remove the back, well, it doesn't look botched at all -- Why not just continue to pull the back off? I would be half-way there. It just doesn't make any sense.
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I don't have an obligation to defend myself, but I can assure you that the phone came out of the box like that. The bulge is only on one edge and it is maybe 1/8"? That's not enough to "burst" out of the box. It's definitely close-able, even if the phone is not lying completely flat. But think about this logically -- what reason do I have to make a post like this if I had somehow botched an attempt at removing the back? And what's the reason for removing the back cover anyhow? Is there something I can get to that I'm not aware of? And if I were trying to remove the back, well, it doesn't look botched at all -- Why not just continue to pull the back off? I would be half-way there. It just doesn't make any sense.
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I think the problem is your pic of the phone is so darn good. Aw, SLRs. The good old days. Everyone is used to ****ty cell phone pics now.
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Received my RMA and it was not in new packaging but had a factory screen protector. OIS works on this and the vibration is not fudged.
I read about the lifting problem on Phandroid, but the picture they posted wasn't nearly as bad as this one. Your experience is probably an exception amongst exceptions.
I feel sorry for you,I hope it resolves well.
I have two (white) Nexus 6's coming from Amazon France (apparently it has a full warranty on them so..), now getting a bit worried that the quality might not be up to par. For the price point, I was expecting better. I've seen more than enough articles/posts on the net from people with problems; for the lack of phones currently releasing in the market, I'd say a good amount have defects. Hopefully the two phones I've just ordered have come from a 'second'/newer batch produced with higher QC, and hopefully your replacement for this 2nd Nexus you have is also the same.
Good luck!

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