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Hey all,
Figured I'd pass on my opinions of these devices, and since I finally chose the TF, I figured I'd get the least flames posting here - lol. Looooong time gadget geek/hacker going way back to the Palm Pilot days. If it was a tech gadget, and particularly if it was internet capable, I probably owned one. My current phones are a HTC Desire Z (w/ NAM AT&T 3G) running CM7, and an iPhone 4 jailbroken.
Over the past couple of months I've owned (or still own) the Xoom, iPad 2, TF101 (w/dock) and GTab 10.1. I still own all but the Xoom, and here's a few of my thoughts on all of them and why I'll be keeping the TF.
Xoom - Well built, sturdy, and nice design. Lousy screen (comparitively) and lack of promised features like LTE and the SD Card werre a bummer, but my biggest reason for selling that one was the screen, and seeming lack of "responsiveness" from Moto on the device. Plus I knew cooler devices were coming soon.
iPad 2 - Not yet Jailbroken (grrr) but it's still a suprisingly good media consumption device as is. I go the 32GB AT&T model, and have used it for a couple of trips as a laptop replacement. It'll be cooler when I can JB it, but since I have a fiarly big investment in iOS software, I'll probably keep it a while. Not real impressed with it's Safari performance, considering all the hub-bub about how fast it is. But it does do games great, is slick and trouble free, and nice sized with a great (smart-cover) solution.
Galaxy Tab 10.1 - I got this one on Sunday, so I haven't given it a whole lot of time. It's a beautiful, "Apple like" device from a design perspective. Also the screen while very saturated, is very nice, light weight and thinness also gets it lots of oooohs and aaawwwws from everybody. I hate that Samsung doesn't allow direct mounting of the internal storage, and we're forced to use that awful KIES software. I've just been using Drobbox and all my music is in the Google cloud. This one would have been my second choice if I didn't already have (and love) the...
Transformer 101- now this one is my keeper. A lot has to do wth the dock - I'm an "ultraportable" laptop fan (current Lenovo x220) so I like smaller laptops, and man this thing makes a damn good laptop substitute with tablet caapabilities. The screen is gorgeous, the responsiveness of the OS is equal to or better than the other Androids, and even beats iPad when Safari is sucking wind. I love the quick controls in the browser (missing in the Tab) and that it feels like there's a really robust community developing for this device. I'm not rooted on any of these yet, and actually pretty content like that. Therre's a few things I'd do with root (and anti ad hosts file for one!) but for the most part I'm ok with them as is. When I start to get bored I'll probably root this too.
I sold the Xoom about a month aftr I bought it, I'll keep the iPad (partly for the fun things to try like iOS 5 and it's great for kids to play games on) but the Tab is going back to BB (restocking fee be damned.
I just really like the versatility of the TF w/dock. I have it paired with a small BT mouse and it's like a pretty full featured laptop, that goes into Tablet mode at the flick of a switch. Still on the hunt for the slimmest folio case for it that allows it to be propped up for typing, but the kybd dock does that for now.
Hope these tips help some people interested in any of these, remember their just mmy opinions and everybody has different needs and required attributes that may differ from mine. Either way their all fun.
If anybody has any question about my experiences, fire away, love to chat gadget talk abou the cool toys.
-Joel
well played!
Shouldnt be a restocking fee witjin 14 days. I returned a tab a few weeks ago to wait for tf no issues
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Shouldnt be a restocking fee witjin 14 days. I returned a tab a few weeks ago to wait for tf no issues
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Good to know thaks, I'll push and see what they say, thanks for the heads up!
Good Post. Thanks.
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I quite agree with you.
From all these devices i tried the iPad 2 and the ASUS transformer.
Im already acquainted with iOS and although its simple and intuitive it's kind of boring. im quite into personalizing my device which the iOs wont really allow.
The bigger and wide screen on the transformer is really nice, and although build-wise it may seems "cheaper" then the iPad (everything that is not shiny-aluminum-ultra-appleish is cheap nowdays) its a comfortable device to hold in the hand.
Price-wise the transformer costs less, + the keyboard dock which increases battery life and also allows you to use it as a netbook.
Performance seems to be almost identical on both A5 and the Tegra 2. BUT the transformer is overclockable, therefore you can squeeze some more juice out of it.
I didnt use the other two, but by reviews i understood that the xooms screen is washed out and not all that great, and the lack of a MicroSD on all of the three (xoom,iPad,GT10.1) is meh-ish.
just picked up mine last night after doing a lil bit of reseasch for a week or so glad i chose this one,, love you wife she bought for me.. BAMBAM
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Thanks for the comparison.
Regarding TF and Tab 10.1 screens, which do you prefer? Which is nicer for news/e-book reading? Does Tab 10.1 oversaturation mess with your eyes?
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I hate that Samsung doesn't allow direct mounting of the internal storage, and we're forced to use that awful KIES software.
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Don't agree with this point. I had the Tab 10.1 for about 3-4 days and I had it mounted on my PC as a plug-play device and was able to transfer files directly. All your need is to install the proper USB drivers from the Samsung US site
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Thanks for the comparison.
Regarding TF and Tab 10.1 screens, which do you prefer? Which is nicer for news/e-book reading? Does Tab 10.1 oversaturation mess with your eyes?
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Yes it does. Although the Galaxy screen seems better than the TF , its for sure over saturated and hurts your eyes if watched closely for lot of time.
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Don't agree with this point. I had the Tab 10.1 for about 3-4 days and I had it mounted on my PC as a plug-play device and was able to transfer files directly. All your need is to install the proper USB drivers from the Samsung US site
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Yeah, you could be right. I'm just so happy with the flexibility of the TF that for now (and for now could be 1-3 months lol) it's the one I'm choosing. IAs I stressed, this is just my humble opinion, hope everybody is happy with their respective choices.
glad to see that are still people who can choose between products without trashing another.
i'm stlll not sure if i'll send my tf back. i do like the versatility it has but seeing that i am keeping my gt 10.1 it's really hard to justify keeping it.
I don't think the keyboard dock can be stressed enough, and I wish I saw more advertising from Asus around the tremendous increase in productivity it provides. It's really not "just" an external keyboard or dock. It really does turn the TF into a completely different class of machine.
That said, I'll admit that if it weren't for the dock, I'd probably opt for the GT 10.1. I don't really use the microSD card I have in my TF right now, and I doubt I'll ever use HDMI. So if choosing between the two on the screen, size and weight alone, I'd probably lean toward the GT. However, man, the keyboard dock makes me want to stick with the TF no matter what else might be out there. As someone who needs to be able to write long-form stuff anywhere, I can't think of a better device than the TF...
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i'd have to suppose the lack of advertising is one major factor for the price of the tablet. moto, apple, samsung all have commercials yet i've not seen one asus commercial, not even for their laptops.
To each his own I guess. I played with them all as well including the acer and viewsonic and kept the wifi Xoom. I really wanted to like the Asus because of price but it was just as bulky as my xoom and had serious build quality issues. The Asus screen was great, the quality around the screen, not so much. Enjoy your new toy dude. Aint technology fun
The only one I haven't played with is the tab 10.1, I secretly want one but Samsung and I have bad history.
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That said, I'll admit that if it weren't for the dock, I'd probably opt for the GT 10.1. I don't really use the microSD card I have in my TF right now, and I doubt I'll ever use HDMI. So if choosing between the two on the screen, size and weight alone, I'd probably lean toward the GT. However, man, the keyboard dock makes me want to stick with the TF no matter what else might be out there. As someone who needs to be able to write long-form stuff anywhere, I can't think of a better device than the TF...
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This!
The dock is the absolute biggest reason for my choice. With my BT mouse (dislike trackpads) I feel like I'm using a real computer, with 16hr batter life and tablet flexibility. Love the shape, size and design of both the iPad and Tab 10.1, but just love the flexibility of the keybd dock too much - at least for the next 90 days or so. ;-)
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This!
The dock is the absolute biggest reason for my choice. With my BT mouse (dislike trackpads) I feel like I'm using a real computer, with 16hr batter life and tablet flexibility. Love the shape, size and design of both the iPad and Tab 10.1, but just love the flexibility of the keybd dock too much - at least for the next 90 days or so. ;-)
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I know about the 90 day shelf life all too well
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wynand32 said:
I don't think the keyboard dock can be stressed enough, and I wish I saw more advertising from Asus around the tremendous increase in productivity it provides. It's really not "just" an external keyboard or dock. It really does turn the TF into a completely different class of machine.
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Not just a different class of machine, but two machines!
My 2 Bitz
Ok, I'm a little late to the game... but if anyone buys one of these tablets second hand.... like I just did, then here goes nothing: I bought a Motorola XOOM wifi (32gb) and an Asus TF101 (16gb) (and I nearly bought a Galaxy Tab 1 and an iPad Gen. 1). It's my first tablet; I haven't yet figured out what I'm gonna do with it, but there ya go.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 1: I passed on the Sammy because it did not have an SD card slot.
iPad Gen. 1: I passed on the iPad because.... well, it's an iPad. About as useful as a maxi-pad to me. I was put off by the closed system. It means far less choices for free or hard-to-get apps (of the kind I might need), and limited storage with no SD card options. It wouldn't do, even for a kid's tablet. (Despite the fact I have an iPhone....).
Asus Transformer Eee Pad TF101: I really wish they would have stuck to one name, and left it at that. What was the original name? The "Asus Transormer Mario Consuela Maria Concito Esperanto Gonzalez Eeee Pad TF-101"?
Motorola Xoom: Anyway, it came down to Asus and the Xoom. And boy, I had a hard time deciding. So hard, I spent 3 days of my life testing these two tablets, up, down, backwards and forwards. I ended up settling on the Xoom, but first, the Asus....
The Asus has a gorgeous screen, compared to the Xoom. The TF101 is sharper, more clarity, brighter, blacks and whites are more darker and brighter, respectively. Better contrast and angle viewing, and reading books is less of a strain with a more muted white for the background.
THe sound of the Asus however, is like slamming a suitcase lid down on twelve kittens while Freddy Krueger scratches his name out on the chalkboard. It's the ridiculous choice of stuffing really tiny speakers so they can fire out both sides of the unit. Even EQ'ing the thing with Viper4FX could not hide the tinny shortcomings of the speaker sound. Which also had a tendency to break up at louder volumes (its particularly keen to distorting around 500hz). Connected to a stereo though, was quite another matter.
Though much less bass, richness and body, the Asus resolved timbre better than the Xoom on music program material, output through a stereo via headphone jacks. However, I still preferred the sound of the XOoms (yes, "Xooms" as in I had TWO Xooms to compare), because the Asus was causing some degree of stress through its sound and picture, as compared with the calmer energy of the Xooms.
The construction of the Asus was nice in parts (ie. color, back design, aluminum frame)... but the superb construction, design, looks, case and smaller size of the Xooms is what pushed me toward the Motorola choice. I have not seen any tablet as well built as the Xoom. The Xoom has a timeless design and hough it is heavy on the wrist if you have to hold it up, it just feels nicer in the hand than the ultra-wide Transformer; which appears more dated due to its size and design. The really nice charging dock and 32gb internal (vs 16gb of Asus) also helped me accept the inferior colors and viewing angle of the Xoom. I also liked the nice design of the various white & green charging LEDs, around the screen of the Xoom - the Asus has none of that. I was not enamored by the fact that Asus required special prorpietary data cables, where the Xoom uses microUSB. What also pushed me toward the Xoom was the mediocre camera in the Asus. No flash and grainy photos (though it let in an unusual amount of light, despite or because of no flash... but it was too much light, and washed out detail at times). The Xoom 5mp camera was excellent... perhaps better than that on my iPhone. I like the idea of snapping pictures on a tablet, because of the large viewfinder.
I'm kind of a stickler when it comes to design. On pure performance and lightness of weight, the Asus wins. But you might not feel like a winner, trying to listen to vidoes and music on those tinny built in speakers for extended periods of time.
My wife has a Samsung Tab 4, and comparing it with the Asus, I don't find the Tab 4 any much better in any way, and in some ways, not as a good (it has a cheaper build, for example).
This was a very hard decision for me to return my beloved tf700 as im loving the super high resolution on this unit and the all metal case but i still pulled the trigger and replace it with the note 10.1 . After readiing some negative review on this tablet im still optimistic that this tablet will exceed my expection and it did surpass my expectation on this tablet . I love this tablet, this is the only tablet that is almost as easy to browse as the ipad 3 in terms of smoothness almost lag free on the native browser , the pen is very usefull for sketching , the case even though its made of plastic it doesnt feel cheap at all .
The micro sd card is fast compared to the tf700
I love the speaker placement and you really hear the stereo separation.
The design is lovely specially in white.
Although the lcd has a lower resolution it still very bright with very good color saturation , never at all miss my tf700 higher dpi .
Build quality is very good , fit and finish is perfect.
No light bleed .
No slowdown even with multiple apps running on the background made possible by the built in 2gb system memory.
This in my opinion the only tablet that can really compete with the ipad . Overall im a very happy camper...
I'm really impressed with this tablet also. The display is actually very good. Wish I could find documentation on what each of those 3 different dpslay modes does. I can see the changes but want to see how exactly display is changed. I think dynamic mode gives best look so far.
Although plastic, it feels high end. Far from feeling cheap. Very well put together. I love the stereo speakers. I think no other tablet can compare, soundwise. Amazing sound. Especially if you use volume+ to increase overall volume & quality.
Everything moves very fluid. Virtually no lag.
If anyone finds the official PDF manual for wifi version, please post it up. I want to master this s pen feature. I know the manual will details things we don't know tablet could even do.
Yea I returned TF700 and decided to buy this one after searching for a new tablet.
It is so much better than TF700 in almost every way, with the only obvious exception being the screen. The screen is great except for lower pixel density which is especially visible when web browsing. But for me, Note 10.1 is a very easy win over TF700.
Agreed! The Infinity definitely felt more solidly built and the screen wins by a landslide but that's where the competition ends. The Note wins in every other way that I can see.
This thing flies and all the basic functionality (like WiFi and GPS) that didn't work on my Prime and barely worked on my Infinity works like an absolute charm on the Note.
Those of you concerned about the pixelation in the stock browser check out Maxthon Browser for Tablets. The text looks much better and believe it or not I think it may actually be faster.
I returned the tf700 also for this. This tablet is light years better than the prime and infinity performance wise. Those dudes in the tf700 forum are delusional thinking it out performs this.
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demandarin said:
If anyone finds the official PDF manual for wifi version, please post it up. I want to master this s pen feature. I know the manual will details things we don't know tablet could even do.
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Here you go:
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...ng_Icecream_English_120803_PC/start_here.html
http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/model/GT-N8000EAABTU-downloads
http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/download/supportGlobalDownloadPrdDetail.do
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.co.samsung.galexy.note10
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I returned the tf700 also for this. This tablet is light years better than the prime and infinity performance wise. Those dudes in the tf700 forum are delusional thinking it out performs this.
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I agree I am not looking back .....my prime had gps and wifi issues and green camera rma 'd it for a return and bought the tf700 I had it for 2 days i/o issues and the same browser lags as the prime .......hello galaxy note 10.1 :good:
Gave my tab1 to my mother(big mistake 300% more spam in my mail account ) bought the tab2. I've returned the tab2 for my note, now I'am happier than ever.
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qnfauf said:
Yea I returned TF700 and decided to buy this one after searching for a new tablet.
It is so much better than TF700 in almost every way, with the only obvious exception being the screen. The screen is great except for lower pixel density which is especially visible when web browsing. But for me, Note 10.1 is a very easy win over TF700.
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Try the Maxthon HD browser. It does fonts much better.
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demandarin said:
I'm really impressed with this tablet also. The display is actually very good. Wish I could find documentation on what each of those 3 different dpslay modes does. I can see the changes but want to see how exactly display is changed. I think dynamic mode gives best look so far.
Although plastic, it feels high end. Far from feeling cheap. Very well put together. I love the stereo speakers. I think no other tablet can compare, soundwise. Amazing sound. Especially if you use volume+ to increase overall volume & quality.
Everything moves very fluid. Virtually no lag.
If anyone finds the official PDF manual for wifi version, please post it up. I want to master this s pen feature. I know the manual will details things we don't know tablet could even do.
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Hey demandarian aren't you the guy who was so high on the prime? The one who wouldn't let anyone say anything bad about the obvious design flaws of that tab?
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Hey demandarian aren't you the guy who was so high on the prime? The one who wouldn't let anyone say anything bad about the obvious design flaws of that tab?
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Who ever said it "DIDNT" have one? Meaning the metalback. That didn't stop me from having a good working unit though. That's where people get confused. No device is perfect. Just like now I'm seeing a screen light bleed thread in here and some other ones. No device is free from manufacturing flaws. Nothing man made is 100% perfect.
IM HIGH ON TECHNOLOGY my experience with Asus was a great one. So great I got me a Nexus7. Which is flawless and one of the best tabs out now. So it doesn't really matter if I liked Prime or not. This is Galaxy Note 10.1 forum. This is my new device. If I like it, which I do so far, ill keep it. If not, ill get my money back or just exchange for infinity pad. This device in testing phase for me. Simple as that.
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Who ever said it "DIDNT" have one? Meaning the metalback. That didn't stop me from having a good working unit though. That's where people get confused. No device is perfect. Just like now I'm seeing a screen light bleed thread in here and some other ones. No device is free from manufacturing flaws. Nothing man made is 100% perfect.
IM HIGH ON TECHNOLOGY my experience with Asus was a great one. So great I got me a Nexus7. Which is flawless and one of the best tabs out now. So it doesn't really matter if I liked Prime or not. This is Galaxy Note 10.1 forum. This is my new device. If I like it, which I do so far, ill keep it. If not, ill get my money back or just exchange for infinity pad. This device in testing phase for me. Simple as that.
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This +1
I will be trying mine out as well soon. If it does not meet my needs, I will exchange it for my 3rd infinity
I am also impressed with the note 10.1 I have been thru a few tabs . Archos, xoom, than TFR 101, got so frustrated with the probes with android bugs on th TFR I jumped ship and bought an iPad 2. I needed to judge for myself . At first I enjoyed the iPad alot. It was smooth and reliable. Rooted it and like it evenmore. Looking back i see i was always searching for ways to do tasks on the ipad2 that are easier and standard on android. I use my tablets alot for work and believe it or not it the ipad2 fit in well there. I was waiting for the note to come out and when it did i knew i needed it. First i hesitated with some of ther reviews. But than said i need to judge for myself. And I am glad i did bc those reviews are so wrong. This thing is amazing. Playing with it side by side with my ipad2 the display in my opinion is just as good and just as smooth. I hope there is not a huge delay in geeting jelly bean but even without it this is great. The pen feature blows everything else away. I was considering an adonit touch or jaja on the ipad but this is so much better.
I just dont understand some of those reviews.
In the end i am glad i got this and am happy with all of its features. Anyone want to buy an ipad2.
The note 10.1 and gs3 were the 2 devices that won my wife over. Had to stop working to pick hers up on release day. Coming from ipad3 she is wondering what took her so long to switch. All the extra functionality is blowing her.
Only thing is screen resolution. But its not a deal breaker.
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Who ever said it "DIDNT" have one? Meaning the metalback. That didn't stop me from having a good working unit though. That's where people get confused. No device is perfect. Just like now I'm seeing a screen light bleed thread in here and some other ones. No device is free from manufacturing flaws. Nothing man made is 100% perfect.
IM HIGH ON TECHNOLOGY my experience with Asus was a great one. So great I got me a Nexus7. Which is flawless and one of the best tabs out now. So it doesn't really matter if I liked Prime or not. This is Galaxy Note 10.1 forum. This is my new device. If I like it, which I do so far, ill keep it. If not, ill get my money back or just exchange for infinity pad. This device in testing phase for me. Simple as that.
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Oh I understand the perfect thing statement but the Prime was so far from perfect it was ridiculous.
Come on at least most devices can pick up WiFi and GPS, that's basic and the prime had difficulty doing that. I hardly call that debacle a manufacturing flaw it was flat out a design one.
Anyway good luck with the note. I've no light bleed whatsoever.
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So far my experience with my note is nothing lessthan spectacular my only regret is that i should have purchase the international versin with 32gb 3g version.
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I'm really impressed with this tablet also. The display is actually very good. Wish I could find documentation on what each of those 3 different dpslay modes does. I can see the changes but want to see how exactly display is changed. I think dynamic mode gives best look so far.
Although plastic, it feels high end. Far from feeling cheap. Very well put together. I love the stereo speakers. I think no other tablet can compare, soundwise. Amazing sound. Especially if you use volume+ to increase overall volume & quality.
Everything moves very fluid. Virtually no lag.
If anyone finds the official PDF manual for wifi version, please post it up. I want to master this s pen feature. I know the manual will details things we don't know tablet could even do.
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you bought a Galaxy Note 10.1? The sky is falling....
What happened to you getting your beloved TF700?
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you bought a Galaxy Note 10.1? The sky is falling....
What happened to you getting your beloved TF700?
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He never had a tf700. He has a prime and nexus 7.
I was being snarky but I know that. He said multiple times in the Prime forums that he wanted to trade his prime or exchange it to gamestop for an Infinity TF700 but couldn't. I was being sarcastic to Asus top cheerleader btw. I'm just shocked that's all
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As far as I can tell the 3 different display choices effect gamma, warmth and saturation. I personally prefer the "movie" setting as it gives the blackest blacks while adding some warmth. The other two settings ccreate some activating around screen fonts.
Does anyone know of a good app that sets gamma independently?
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I really wanted to get the N10, I really did. But Google just had to **** it up with their terrible customer service and a ****ty checkout system that spews out errors every single time. I'm done waiting around, so now looking for an alternative, any suggestions/recommendations?
I'm more of an Android fan obv.
TIA.
UPDATE: I ordered mines after a few e-mails with Google. Got the beast. It's amazing!
Ordering from Google was a piece of cake for me. I ordered it on a Saturday, got it that Thursday (Lexington, KY to Los Angeles). But I've never had to deal with their Support, so I'll take your word on that.
Having said that, I honestly don't think you'll find another tab that compares with the N10, but I love mine so much I'm hardly objective. I believe if you persevere with Google you'll thank yourself down the road.
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Their support is basically "read the online help sections!!!!".
Anyway, I got this email just now from Google:
"Hello,
During a recent review of your Google Checkout account, we were unable to
verify your information.
As a result, your account has been temporarily suspended and you will be
unable to place orders. In order to resolve this situation, please provide
us with the requested information of MR XXXX
within 3 business days by filling out this form"
Um, I have been buying apps with this account for a long time now. What gives?
You got me, bud. If it's a credit card issue, maybe your card company can help. Sometimes when your billing address isn't *exactly* as it's written on your statement it can cause problems. But if you've been been using the same card all along, that's probably not it. I know because of the expense of the tab, my card company called me to confirm I had placed the order before they would authorize it. Maybe that has something to do with it.
I would tell you to buy from Amazon, but the last I checked, their pricing was higher.
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The best alternative right now is IMO is the Kindle HD 8.9, but it is much more difficult to root and all that. If you wait a few more months other companies will have powerful tablets out with new processors and probably high res screens.
You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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The note also has front facing speakers. The shape is very similar to the n10. Major difference is the note has a plastic feel to it and in my opinion doesn't feel as solid as the n10.
Also the note does not suffer from light bleed bit you're right, the screen is not as nice!
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sendbeer said:
You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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I'm in UK, and I don't think any retails sell the N10. I would have bought from Amazon but they are £100 more dearer and eBay prices are just insane - in comparison to Google's price tag.
The main reason why I want the N10 is for the screen. I'm a picky prick when it comes to screen resolution. Is light bleed a huge deal on these devices?
I've sent Google the docs they asked for anyway.
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I'm in UK, and I don't think any retails sell the N10. I would have bought from Amazon but they are £100 more dearer and eBay prices are just insane - in comparison to Google's price tag.
The main reason why I want the N10 is for the screen. I'm a picky prick when it comes to screen resolution. Is light bleed a huge deal on these devices?
I've sent Google the docs they asked for anyway.
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Only alternative that ccould match up with the n10 is going to the the Sony Xperia Tablet Z but you will have to wait another month or two. It may actually be a little faster than the n10 as well.
There has been a lot of complaints regarding light bleed but personally it wasn't an issue. Sure I can see some slight paleness on 2 sides in the dark at max brightness but in regular light using auto-brightness I don't see it on a dark screen. And quite frankly I would never have even noticed if it hadn't been for the notorious thread here. LOL
Best alternative its to wait for a new product... Nexus 10 II ... Maybe these guys from google will solve issues with battery life and with charging time.. Its a shame that you have almost perfect configuration but unable to use because of not enough juice. Not a complete satisfaction and this make you angry and tired to be dissapointed. Good luck
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Best alternative its to wait for a new product... Nexus 10 II ... Maybe these guys from google will solve issues with battery life and with charging time.. Its a shame that you have almost perfect configuration but unable to use because of not enough juice. Not a complete satisfaction and this make you angry and tired to be dissapointed. Good luck
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I wasn't planning on taking the tablet outside much, Used for indoors mostly, so when not in use would be charging. How 'bad' is the battery life like?
Get the galaxy note 10.1. It's a beast at multitasking!
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There are various experience with the battery... I dont know where its the problem. I tired all the variants. Kernels rom.. Brightness etc but i cant get more of 5 hours screen on ( normal use)
I realized the problem imediatly after ive got the tablet.. 3 hours at that time from 100 % to 0 %... After few cycles ive got 5 hours but after more cycles she remained at this average. I can not do a RMA anymore. Mine doesn't have screen bleeding. Maybe you will have luck to find one with battery and screen ok. By the way, the screen its nice but not so amasing . No deep Black make sometimes screen look cheap LCD. And so what its grate for some if they almost all keep it like 30% for keep the battery alive more. Sorry for my english
Anyway the main reason i like it its because it rolls android... And have a good cpu... Besides this horror customer care from google. No original accesorie yet after months from launch... That is not the way i hoped from a monster like google and Samsung.
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I think this tablet is the best alternative right now, because color reproduction is more vibrant then the N10. Black is deep, other main color like red,blue,and green look much more attractive to the eyes beside from the true multitasking. ( That's why I return N10 for the note 10.1). The screen isn't that sharp compare to the N10 but it isn't that bad. (If you use the tab at a right distance, then you won't notice the pixels). Color and the true multi screens, and S-pen are a plus for the Note 10.1. In my opinion, It is the best tab since I already used the Asus transformer prime, Microsoft Surface, Nexus 10. Sorry about my English and I hope this help you.
Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10. Don t be so overexcited. Let the big companies that already have the next 10 year tehnology deliver to us the goods faster instead of asking 500 dollars on a product that has so many anoing insuficiences.
We need a little small official pogo cable for 4 months guys... Wtf.. And Its not ready yet... This is a nice comedy with us playing in ...
I was having also Asus infinity - laggy as hell like an old 94 computer... I give it back în hope that master google give us something for 2013. Flowless device ... I was so wrong
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Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10.
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An amoled will ALWAYS have better blacks then an LCD. Its the nature if the display. Blacks on an Amoled are pixels that are turned off, whereas an LCD panel reproduces blacks while lit. Produced blacks (amoled) > Reproduced blacks (LCD). The trade off is worse battery life, inaccurate (but over saturated, which people love) colors, and mostly god awful whites.
The Nexus 10 is a fabulous tablet. It has its issues, they all do. But for a power user like myself, there isn't even a competition. I cannot use a Touchwiz device, and ASUS burned their bridge with me over the Nexus 7. (EMMC issues, build quality nonexistent). Sony is a true competitor but I cannot stand around for months waiting for a company to issue an update. Developers are great, and porting AOSP and CM are good in general, but they have issues and most of the time the cons outweigh the pros and I have to fall back to a stock based system. To each their own though, there is not a "One tablet fits all", even the iPad isn't perfect. I couldn't get past the Apple wall, and 4:3 aspect ratio
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Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10. Don t be so overexcited. Let the big companies that already have the next 10 year tehnology deliver to us the goods faster instead of asking 500 dollars on a product that has so many anoing insuficiences.
We need a little small official pogo cable for 4 months guys... Wtf.. And Its not ready yet... This is a nice comedy with us playing in ...
I was having also Asus infinity - laggy as hell like an old 94 computer... I give it back în hope that master google give us something for 2013. Flowless device ... I was so wrong
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Amoled screens have an infinite contrast ratio, your HTC Desire will have deeper blacks the an any single non amoled device out there, put it next to an iPhone, a Nexus 4, a Droid DNA and the result will be the same.
The black levels could be better here, I won't deny that.
Wait for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3. It's rumored to have a high resolution screen like the Nexus 10. Hopefully one with deeper blacks and punchier colours though.
Hopefully it will be announced on the 14th of March with the SGS4.
Just curious...is the Nook HD+ with Cyanogen worth a look? It's a bit bare-bones compared to the N10 (no BT, no camera) but otherwise, it seemed like a good value @ $269. From what I can tell, you can even buy an N2A card to make the transition to CM painless.
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If you don't need Android... The iPad 4 is a decent enough alternative. Slightly heavier, thicker and lower resolution screen. They are on sometimes on sale too.
In android world... If not the nexus... Maybe the new Asus Memo. It's a 300 tegra 3 tablet... SD and it looks like Asus fixed the memory. If not the nexus, I'd honestly wait because a whole new generation of processors are coming.
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Hey guys, thanks for the time here. I just sold my G Pad for around 70% of the price I got it for.. I ended up getting one of the Samsung Tab PRO's, I gotta say, nice tablet. Hardware keys, suck.. Will take some time getting used to. I bought the 10 incher..
There is absolutely no development going on so I am looking into the Exynos processor of the tablet and I downloaded the KK open source code.. I'm hoping that I can figure out how to build a rom and kernel from scratch so I can get CM on it.
Anyways, what I wanted to say was that the G Pad was a great device and I had big troubles choosing between keeping it or going for a new tablet. In my opinion going from a G Pad to a Tab PRO 8 incher wouldof been a waste, unless it was all about the screen and the colours. The G Pad has a great display for reading and such.. I think I'll miss reading books on it because this 10 incher will need to have portrait mode and split the pages in two "like a book", it works but it's not the same, lol. TouchWiz isn't so bad anymore but I replaced the launcher with Nova.. The rest is bearable I'd say.
Well guys, being on the G Pad forums has shown me that even if the community isn't the biggest, there's graet people and you actually get to know people a bit better and you can sorta do a road map on who does what on the device. I think that's great and I've enjoyed writing with you and to you.
- I still don't know if it was the right decision to sell the G Pad. Time will tell. Anyways, have fun, hope to see you around somewhere.
/CuraeL
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- I still don't know if it was the right decision to sell the G Pad. Time will tell. Anyways, have fun, hope to see you around somewhere.
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You goofed. Sorry.... Just kidding.
.... but enjoy your device whatever it might be. I think the first thing to consider when trading for another device or buy any, is what you plan for it. A 10-inch tablet is a completely different experience, and changes what you would use it for. Consider the IR Blaster on the G Pad. Even if the 10-incher has it, can you really see yourself using a TEN INCH remote control?
I had a Nook HD+ 8.9 inches prior to the G Pad, and I am a dedicated reader. I enjoyed the large, high-resolution screen, but found it a little too big for lots of reading. The G Pad, despite being only half an inch smaller in screen size, looks MUCH smaller next to the Nook, mostly due to how thin it is, and the super small bezels. For my own purposes, I have found it to be the perfect size. Still, it all depends on what one's priorities are, so there is no 'best tablet'. There is only the best tablet for you.
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You goofed. Sorry.... Just kidding.
.... but enjoy your device whatever it might be. I think the first thing to consider when trading for another device or buy any, is what you plan for it. A 10-inch tablet is a completely different experience, and changes what you would use it for. Consider the IR Blaster on the G Pad. Even if the 10-incher has it, can you really see yourself using a TEN INCH remote control?
I had a Nook HD+ 8.9 inches prior to the G Pad, and I am a dedicated reader. I enjoyed the large, high-resolution screen, but found it a little too big for lots of reading. The G Pad, despite being only half an inch smaller in screen size, looks MUCH smaller next to the Nook, mostly due to how thin it is, and the super small bezels. For my own purposes, I have found it to be the perfect size. Still, it all depends on what one's priorities are, so there is no 'best tablet'. There is only the best tablet for you.
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Haha, the remote control I use my G2 for.. It has a working remote for CM builds, last time I checked myself, been a while, the G Pad didn't have that. I find it rather weird at all, to use the IR blaster on such a big device to replace such a small peripheral such as a regular remote control.
Oh yeah, the bezel on the G Pad is amazing, it was indeed a joy to read on. I got an iPad Air at work some weeks ago and I tried to use it for a while, haven't held an Apple device since the iPod Touch gen1, it's changed, but I still don't enjoy the UI so when I saw the big screen, I liked it.. And thought about a bigger android tablet.. So I got this one.. There is a downside to anything I guess.. I love reading my comics on the 10 incher tho.. Nice and crisp as on the G Pad, just bigger.. But yeah, reading books will be different.. Entirely different now.
And yeah, I never owned a 10 inch before the iPad for a few weeks.. The gripe with the Samsung device is that it's not easily held with one hand.. Simply too big. But YouTube and movies.. I use it for that as well.. Where bigger seems better to me.. Again.. Trade offs.. I dunno, I just might find an 8 incher again at some point to do the reading on.. Who knows.. Nothing wrong with having an extra device. All I know is that 7 inches is too small and I'm leaving my old Nexus 7 2012 to rot.. Mhm..
Well, at least I'm on my way to knowing a bit more about tablet sizes, as you've had your experiences.. There's a lot to consider when getting a bigger or smaller tablet. So at least now I've had one of "each".. And like I said.. Pro's and cons for both.. There's just some things the 8 incher does better.
I'd love to get a TabPro 8.4. But I just couldn't justify the cost when I got my 8.3 for for $150 less. 10" tablets are just too big for me.
man 70% less is like $160, id gladly pay so much if anyone were to give up their like new gpad , been scouting for a like new at this price, most issues arent deal breakers and can easily be fixed, if anyone looking to sell one so cheap , please think of me
I been thinking of selling the tab 3 for a pro 8.4. But im waiting for a nice price drop. Looks cool.
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The Guy Has Guts...
CuraeL said:
I just sold my G Pad for around 70% of the price I got it for.. I ended up getting one of the Samsung Tab PRO's, I gotta say, Hardware keys, suck..
I still don't know if it was the right decision to sell the G Pad
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You Have To Admire This Guy..
To go from a tablet with Good Development to an (Octacore) tablet that has No Development on the SoC takes Guts.
I did that with my first N7-2013.. I got sick of the screen size and returned it on the 13th day for a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8.0.. At the time, there was Zero Development for it as well... and I almost went Insane being an XDA Member with a Tablet that I could do nothing with accept root it..
As a matter of fact on the 14th (Last) day I could return the Tab 3 8.0 I did... and got a Note 8.0.. at least it had some development going for it..
So.. hats off to this XDA Member.. to make such a bold investment in hopes of a better future with his Octacore 10.1..
You know Samsung will just make an amoled display for the 8" and then you'd have to return that one lol I enjoyed my amoled 7.7 but it had its' share of issues. I'm flash happy with my phone, but with my tablet I juat want to chill.
Thanks for all the replies guys.
I gotta say at this point in time I am only satisfied with the big screen. When the Exynos processor has been sleeping it takes a good 4-6 seconds before the device reacts to input. Also in those seconds even the bluetooth connection to my hi-fi suffers from stuttering. It seems poorly executed with 2xquad core.. Oh well, can't win em all. The speed is fine when it's up and running. But the stuttering makes it feel like it needs to re-fuel or something, lol. Guess I'll roll with this until something new shows up. Not a lot of 10 inchers on the market, why I went with this supposedly bad boy. It's kinda disappointing. ^^ And btw. yes I would very much have liked amoled.. The LCD on this fella also suffers from light bleed and has that weird, griddy-pixely look on small text. Me no liekee. It is a beastly tablet, it just has it's quirks, just like the G Pad had, but at least the processor on that one was one that devs had time for. I've been looking at the Exynos' for a while now and it seems like the Cyanogen boys gave that shiet up time ago due to source codes not really being released, or at least the kernels and such. I looked at what I could find and I didn't know where to begin with making kernel and eventually a ROM. I'd prolly just brick it.
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Thanks for all the replies guys.
I gotta say at this point in time I am only satisfied with the big screen. When the Exynos processor has been sleeping it takes a good 4-6 seconds before the device reacts to input. Also in those seconds even the bluetooth connection to my hi-fi suffers from stuttering. It seems poorly executed with 2xquad core.. Oh well, can't win em all. The speed is fine when it's up and running. But the stuttering makes it feel like it needs to re-fuel or something, lol. Guess I'll roll with this until something new shows up. Not a lot of 10 inchers on the market, why I went with this supposedly bad boy. It's kinda disappointing. ^^ And btw. yes I would very much have liked amoled.. The LCD on this fella also suffers from light bleed and has that weird, griddy-pixely look on small text. Me no liekee. It is a beastly tablet, it just has it's quirks, just like the G Pad had, but at least the processor on that one was one that devs had time for. I've been looking at the Exynos' for a while now and it seems like the Cyanogen boys gave that shiet up time ago due to source codes not really being released, or at least the kernels and such. I looked at what I could find and I didn't know where to begin with making kernel and eventually a ROM. I'd prolly just brick it.
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I believe that most of the people who own a G Pad prefer the 8" format to the 10" format. But I guess that the 8" model probably has the same performance issues that you're seeing with the 10" model. Maybe somebody will find a way to tweak it to fix the lag issue.
I bought it a few days ago. It's nice for sure. My only gripe is that it seems that development is dead on it which is a shame. I've never been a huge CM fan. Tried Mahdi Rom and got rid of it within 5 minutes.I'll just keep it stock and rooted.
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I bought it a few days ago. It's nice for sure. My only gripe is that it seems that development is dead on it which is a shame. I've never been a huge CM fan. Tried Mahdi Rom and got rid of it within 5 minutes.I'll just keep it stock and rooted.
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Mine will be here in 2 days. You dont like any other ROM?
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Mine will be here in 2 days. You dont like any other ROM?
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Eh, I try to avoid CM but might try something else.
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Eh, I try to avoid CM but might try something else.
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Try the GPE ROM and just theme the heck out of it?
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Try the GPE ROM and just theme the heck out of it?
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I thought you couldn't do that because of the different hardware? I could be wrong.
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I thought you couldn't do that because of the different hardware? I could be wrong.
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My mistake; I thought I'd read about a GPE conversions, but if there is, I can't find it. I'm unaware of any hardware differences between the 2 versions though. Unless you're talking about the Verizon one. But really, I don't know either way.
I like my G Pad. For the price, I keep it until another good sale comes along.
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I believe that most of the people who own a G Pad prefer the 8" format to the 10" format. But I guess that the 8" model probably has the same performance issues that you're seeing with the 10" model. Maybe somebody will find a way to tweak it to fix the lag issue.
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Hey Woody, no, the 8 inch Samsung device features the same resolution and 2 gigs of ram, that's where it stops being the same. It has a snapdragon 800 under the hood and thus has a few roms including an unofficial CM11. What I don't understand is that XDA put the 3 tablets into the same forums.. 8 inch has Snapdragon, 10 incher has 2 gigs of ram and Exynos and the 12 incher has 3 gigs of ram and Exynos. None of the devices are 100% identical specwise. Usually that could have been, with different screen sizes.. But this is not the case.. So it baffles me. 8.4 has taken over and well.. I guess there would be even drier on those forums if it hadn't been for those guys. But oh well, lol. Don't care much for that tablet. Then I wouldof stuck with the G Pad.
I mean.. I haven't even rooted the device, lol.
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I thought you couldn't do that because of the different hardware? I could be wrong.
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You can't. Don't flash it. Last time I checked, that didn't work. But who cares man, get some other AOSP rom on it. There's a few to choose from when it comes to the G Pad. And these days, it runs em smooth.
Well, ive been using my nexus 9 now for a few days and i just feel a little bit let down knowing how much ive spent and the results ive got. This feeling is purely regarding the hardware as i love lollipop and all the benefits that brings.
I thought i was happy with my nexus 9, well i was until i picked up my nexus 7 2013 and wow.. So light and it felt really nice! No sharp corners and the screen is loads better than the 9. This got me thinking, ive paid double for the 9.
What i would of loved is the 7 just resizing to the 9, using the same style and design (with wireless charging) im not over bothered about the new cpu if im honest, the one in the 7 is fast enough. Plus lollipop feels really slick anyway when i tried the preview version. They would of sold bucket loads, ok a few people would of wanted more but its better that than have loads of dissapointed customers.
Ive owned the Nexus 4 / 5 and both 7's and i even sold my 5 hoping to buy a 6.. Well until they released the price, so im back using the 4 again and very happy with it.
Also to top it all off and rub salt in the wounds HTC in the USA did a 50% off sale on the N9...ok it was only for a day but surely they wouldnt do that if they were losing money on each device would they?
Needless to say my N9 will be going back as faulty for a full refund due to its screen flicker. I love the 4:3 screen ratio so im looking for a alternative.. Any ideas?
Steve
Screen is "loads better" on the N7? I don't understand at all. I've had both side by side and can't see how you can come to that conclusion.
I believe the only alternative with a 4:3 aspect ratio would be an iPad.
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I believe the only alternative with a 4:3 aspect ratio would be an iPad.
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Sadly, I've come to the same conclusion. Ugh.[emoji20]
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Screen is "loads better" on the N7? I don't understand at all. I've had both side by side and can't see how you can come to that conclusion.
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Can you do a Nexus 7 and Nexus 9 side by side video review?
I'm curious how they compare performance wise, i.e. page loads, refresh rates, stuttering, what movies look like on the N9 in the horizontal orientation etc.
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Can you do a Nexus 7 and Nexus 9 side by side video review?
I'm curious how they compare performance wise, i.e. page loads, refresh rates, stuttering, what movies look like on the N9 in the horizontal orientation etc.
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I'll see if I have time this weekend.
Don't have a tripod, would be tough to hold the camera and perform actions at the same time on both tablet, but I'll see what I can do.
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Well, ive been using my nexus 9 now for a few days and i just feel a little bit let down knowing how much ive spent and the results ive got. This feeling is purely regarding the hardware as i love lollipop and all the benefits that brings.
I thought i was happy with my nexus 9, well i was until i picked up my nexus 7 2013 and wow.. So light and it felt really nice! No sharp corners and the screen is loads better than the 9. This got me thinking, ive paid double for the 9.
What i would of loved is the 7 just resizing to the 9, using the same style and design (with wireless charging) im not over bothered about the new cpu if im honest, the one in the 7 is fast enough. Plus lollipop feels really slick anyway when i tried the preview version. They would of sold bucket loads, ok a few people would of wanted more but its better that than have loads of dissapointed customers.
Ive owned the Nexus 4 / 5 and both 7's and i even sold my 5 hoping to buy a 6.. Well until they released the price, so im back using the 4 again and very happy with it.
Also to top it all off and rub salt in the wounds HTC in the USA did a 50% off sale on the N9...ok it was only for a day but surely they wouldnt do that if they were losing money on each device would they?
Needless to say my N9 will be going back as faulty for a full refund due to its screen flicker. I love the 4:3 screen ratio so im looking for a alternative.. Any ideas?
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Think its more your wallet that has hurt your view of it. (in my opinion) and I get that. That and lollipop is great its supposed to be faster and not just on new devices this was the goal starting from KK. So shelling out that much money when you have the N7 may hurt a bit. I like the portability of the N7 Spent most my time with the n10 though. I just prefer bigger for some tasks.
The 50% sale only lasted an hour or less and was more hype than anything. Still there is a large markup on these much like there is on every premium device.
The screen flicker i don't have but if I were you I would definitely do an exchange or just send it back.
Personally I have been enjoying it but haven't spent enough time with it yet ( one day)
I'm enjoying mine a lot. I've had both Nexus 7's and I liked the 2nd gen a lot. But it didn't feel like a tablet to much because it wasn't really much bigger than my phones (Nexus 5 and OnePlus) this is a good upgrade. I'm waiting for more performance tweaks in future updates or new Roms. It hiccups from time to time but not much to worry about.
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death before apple!
Just imagine taking the iPad air 2 and putting lollipop on it, best tablet ftw
The N9 screen is a LOT better than the N7's (lightbleed aside). I would go as far as to say that it has the best overall screen of any Nexus device that came before it in terms of color accuracy, fidelity, and viewing angles.
I share the thoughts of the op. I have both the n7 FHD and n9 and ive only been using the n7 since every time I grab the n9 the light bleed, loose back and over heating bothers me so much. I'm returning it for sure. Maybe I'll give it another shot once they work out all these issues.
And also, just noticed today when turning the n9 on, that it has yellowish spots when the screen is black but backlight is on (as in when turning on).
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Will they sort the QC issue out thou? Its put me off to be honest.... I'll probably wait for the next premium tablet...
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Will they sort the QC issue out thou? Its put me off to be honest.... I'll probably wait for the next premium tablet...
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Zero issues here with mine. Every product has their issues. There is always an "issues" and "disappointment" bandwagon for the first few weeks.
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Zero issues here with mine. Every product has their issues. There is always an "issues" and "disappointment" bandwagon for the first few weeks.
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Exactly.
Some people think buying The Shield will make them happy. Sure, it's a great tablet, I had one before my N9 I know but check out their board on xda. It's just as littered with complains of this fault and that fault.
I've never heard of a device with ZERO complaints about something.
I am loving my N9. I have the Asus TF701T also and now that ive been using the N9 for a week the only time i pick up the Asus is when i want to play a game that is not compatible yet on my N9. I have none of the issues that others are complaining about. Feels great, looks great and works great.
That's all folks.
I am finding a LOT more reviews where they are saying the N9 was a missed chance... there is no excuse for the squidgy back and light bleed on a premium tablet...
I'm thinking Nokia N1 now... it has the laminated screen and the aluminum body the N9 should of had.
So, what tablets have similar specs to the N9, but without the issues, regardless of cost? I'm currently waiting for LTE version (though maybe I'll grab a sand one when it comes out if I decide I can live without LTE), but I'm definitely open to a better alternative. I know there aren't any that have 64 bit processors or Android 5.0 (yet). But beside those, is there any other Android tablet that's around 8-9 inches and has similar performance. I mostly will use it for web browsing, games, and testing apps that I've developed. Thanks!
Get a nexus 6
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Still there is a large markup on these much like there is on every premium device.
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That's the problem. It's a premium price sticker for a not-premium device.