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is there a way to make the htc keyboard louder? its always quieter than the system sounds and thats a little bit annoying to me. if i wnated to hear the keyboard clicks better, then phone clicks would be too loud.
Small problem.
The audio feedback for the HTC_IME is "standard" and based from what is referred to as "comfortable" sound level.
Meaning; it's supposed to be subtle. Might I suggest installing Better Keyboard from Better Android. They equipped it with quite the "audio feedback boost."
(sidenote - have you considered the audio hack?)
i dont want to root my phone, so tell me about this audio hack
There's your issue.
If you manually install the HTC_IME to your device, whether it's the G1 or MyTouch is irrelevant...most of the "features" do not come along with the keyboard.
Unless you push it via ADB or installed the keyboard directly into your system files...it functions almost like an "application." Therefore, you cannot even access the calibration tutorial that is shipped with the HTC_IME.
As for the "audio hack" - that is something you also need root access for. Unfortunately, if that's something you're not interested in doing, then I cannot further assist you. Sorry.
do i have to root to push it via adb?
i just dont want to root right now because my phone works nicely, i'll probably root in the future when someone compiles an easier method that doesnt need a couple hours of my time preparing a goldcard. its definitely something ive considered, just too risky at this time.
Where have you been?
kchau said:
do i have to root to push it via adb?
i just dont want to root right now because my phone works nicely, i'll probably root in the future when someone compiles an easier method that doesnt need a couple hours of my time preparing a goldcard. its definitely something ive considered, just too risky at this time.
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Funny thing about that...THERE IS A MUCH EASIER METHOD TO ROOTING YOUR DEVICE! If you haven't heard about the miracle that is referred to as, "The One-Click Root Method" - then you're basically living under a rock.
Here's a thought. Considering the ONE-CLICK METHOD allows you to simply flash Cyanogen's latest recovery image to your phone...you can power down your device, then boot it into recovery, HOLDING DOWN - HOME + POWER BUTTON until you come to the splash screen (i.e. - G1 or MyTouch screen) - THEN, technically you're ROOTED.
If you provide me with your GMAIL I would be glad to send you the APK file for the application used to access this process. Along with provide a simple step-by-step guide.
ive been reluctant to try this. can you link me to this one click root and the instructions to get cyanogen rom working?
also its possible to get unrooted for warranty reasons right?
ok, i rooted my phone, so what about this sound hack?
Time to thread hunt.
This is where I leave you.
You need to thread hunt, so to speak. Or even consider a Google search to track down some topics or blog spots that pertain to this issue.
There is an application available from the Android Market, but I believe it's a PAID application. Keep that in mind as a last resort...just in case.
one last thing about the htc keyboard.
is there a way to see the words that the htc keyboard has learned? and delete some words? or even a way to reset the dictionary so that the custom words are removed?
What you guys did, after you tear down the box and turn on your acer a500 for the first time, excluding language and timezone selection?
Check for update manually
root it
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Check for update manually
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What's the easiest way to do this?
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root it
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I don't know what is it, or how they do it, but first I wanna know why they do it. All I heard is root! root! root!
get to know it
Do not root update install 3rd party apps until you know honeycomb and android
Of course root is obviously needed it also puts system files in your hands to mess up.
Please be careful and read all the forums and threads here
Thanks for hearing my 2 cents
If you dont know why you most likely do not need to do so yet
There are a great bunch of people here .take your time and do not jumpinto to deep
If you're not going to root, obviously the first thing is to set your tablet up with your Google account (either an existing GMail account or a new one.) Then set up any other email accounts, and install any apps you know you want that aren't on the tablet already (Kindle/Nook, games, utilities, TweetDeck, Pandora, MoboPlayer, etc.)
Find yourself a good File Manager; Android doesn't come by default with a program to let you view the files on your tablet :| I personally use ES File Explorer, but HD File Manager is also pretty good and was designed for Honeycomb/tablet size displays.
As Erica said above, don't even consider rooting until you've worked with Android a bit. If you don't need the tools root provides, you're better off not doing it.
Rooting your tablet (or other Android device) installs a "SuperUser" application which can allow other apps to act as the owner of the operating system (for Windows user, Administrator level privileges rather than User). In most cases, the method of getting root involves using a device- or Android-version-specific exploit/security hole.
With Root/SU, you can:
Run root-only apps like Titanium Backup, SetCPU (profiles only currently)
Remove and/or replace apps and other files not normally in the "user" space (CAUTION: Acer's update process expects damned near all of the pre-installed apps to still be there, so ALWAYS back up the original files!)
Once the hard-working and never-appreciated-enough Devs figure out a way around the bootloader (or Acer unlocks it), you can replace the kernel files, overclock, replace the entire ROM with a custom one
Some caveats:
Rooting will almost certainly void your warranty (if discovered should you have to return it for warranty service) and if you do it wrong, you can brick your device (i.e. you now have a flat black brick, not a functional device)
Some apps will not work on devices that are rooted (and/or have the SuperUser app present). Currently this includes at a minimum Google Movies and Blockbuster.
DON'T waste you time trying to update. It's been pulled until release fo HC 3.1.
DO enjoy the unit!
DO download apps and play.
Root at your own risk, but HC 3.1 is around the corner and you will have a dificult time getting it if you don't know what your not a techie.
Lastly, put it in Airplane mode before sleep mode to save battery. If you are turning it off, no dif.
Get Astro file mgr - free
Get Weatherbug for HC - free
Get Pandora - free
Load a micro mem card with all you music and videos, and enjoy one of the best devices in production.
If you have a memory card reader, blow you Ipad friends minds by asking them to borrow the memory card in their digital camera, plug it into the USB and swipe through their pictures. They don't have an app for that.
I have had my A500 since last week. I have basically just been trying out apps and browsing Forums to get more info. In the end the forum here seems to be most active and contains the most interesting information.
Also try to google for list with "Optimized for Honeycomb". This will make you fiind the apps that are optimized for the Tablet.
I did not root my device as I dont have any need for it (yet), but I am certainly waiting for 3.1. The current version of honeycomb is a bit unstable.
For the rest just enjoy the tablet
Smile, you just bought a great tablet
So what are you guys saying is that I should not update my build version, and wait for the 3.1 update
Of course first have to buy a screen protector before remove the plastic cover. Apply the screen protector before it get dusted. Then only turn on the device, sign in your Google account and connect internet and do setting. Then go update the firmware.
Sent from my A500 using XDA Premium App
So what are you guys saying is that I should not update my build version, and wait for the 3.1 update
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Correct, unless you know what you are doing.
http://www.unlockroot.com/guide.htm
Device list is here
http://www.unlockroot.com/unlockroot.php
HTC HTC Desire Z 2.3.7
have anyone tryied it yet?
Using this for rooting looks like a longshot to me...
Rooting through ADB is much much much safer.
Avira has detected 2 virus. i deleted it
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Avira has detected 2 virus. i deleted it
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Microsoft Security Essentials detected stuff too, seems like I'll brick my phone with this. So I think I'll just stick with gfree
wanted to try, but kaspersky also say "virus alarm"
Guys, you do realize that rooting exploits are technically viruses, right?
Superoneclick comes up as a virus on my home computer, yet everyone except HTC phone owners use it to gain root.
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Guys, you do realize that rooting exploits are technically viruses, right?
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Would rooting exploits on Linux/Android come up as viruses on Windows?
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Would rooting exploits on Linux/Android come up as viruses on Windows?
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This tool is downloaded to your computer, then you execute it and it's supposed root your android automatically. Yes, they do show up as viruses sometimes.
The question, is it legit? I have my doubts.
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Superoneclick comes up as a virus on my home computer, yet everyone except HTC phone owners use it to gain root.
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Did a bit of Googling around, just to find out more about why Superoneclick comes up as containing a virus sometimes.
The following gives some theories on why this happens.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/fwm9b/superoneclick_severe_virus_alert_in_windows/
So to answer my own question, it seems that the anti-virus programs may indeed be screening for exploits that don't actually affect Windows, but Linux. Whether this is the case with Unlock Root, or its actually spreading a Windows virus, who knows?
These are all very valid points, yes as with any rooting process, you could end up with a nice shiny brick but then again, "He who dares, Wins!"
However i am a at this having just about rooted my old milestone on the 8th attempt so i think i may leave this to someone else a little than me to try 1st!
No good
You know, there are ZERO decent guides, even I'm afraid to say, here on xda on how to successfully, easily and preferrably with a single click, root a Desire Z - and I've been desperate to do mine for a long time. The problem is a lot of the guides have dead links, hard to follow or half missing instructions.
Anyway.
This looked like deep joy, so I just installed it, ran it, changed to USB debug mode, hit "root" against my device and the upshot was that it looked like it went through the process, did a reboot, then still no root (checked with a root checker app and with Avast, trying to access Firewall mode which needs root).
I'm gutted, I thought I could finally make root happen without WAY too complex instructions.
Desire Z, GSM, 2.3.3 unbranded here if that helps anyone out.
adamchap said:
You know, there are ZERO decent guides, even I'm afraid to say, here on xda on how to successfully, easily and preferrably with a single click, root a Desire Z - and I've been desperate to do mine for a long time. The problem is a lot of the guides have dead links, hard to follow or half missing instructions.
Anyway.
This looked like deep joy, so I just installed it, ran it, changed to USB debug mode, hit "root" against my device and the upshot was that it looked like it went through the process, did a reboot, then still no root (checked with a root checker app and with Avast, trying to access Firewall mode which needs root).
I'm gutted, I thought I could finally make root happen without WAY too complex instructions.
Desire Z, GSM, 2.3.3 unbranded here if that helps anyone out.
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I found it pretty easy following the main wiki. You need adb but it's easy if you do a little reading.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
adamchap said:
You know, there are ZERO decent guides, even I'm afraid to say, here on xda on how to successfully, easily and preferrably with a single click, root a Desire Z - and I've been desperate to do mine for a long time. The problem is a lot of the guides have dead links, hard to follow or half missing instructions.
Anyway.
This looked like deep joy, so I just installed it, ran it, changed to USB debug mode, hit "root" against my device and the upshot was that it looked like it went through the process, did a reboot, then still no root (checked with a root checker app and with Avast, trying to access Firewall mode which needs root).
I'm gutted, I thought I could finally make root happen without WAY too complex instructions.
Desire Z, GSM, 2.3.3 unbranded here if that helps anyone out.
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It was really hard for me at first learning adb, but now it's pretty easy. I'm no expert, but I can follow directions. PM me if you need any help.
The main things that would concern me about this is that it took so long to be released, it's being told to us by some new person who's barely posted anything before, and even more concerning he never came to check back/talk about it :S
I just rooted a friend's EVO Shift which is really similar to the G2. It was a pain but if you follow the steps to the "t" you should be okay. The reason I meantioned it was because I rooted my G2 when it had stock Froyo on it and was easy as cake The problem which makes it difficult is downgrading to Froyo. Once you get past that part... its as easy as using Visionary apk and clicking a button. Its pretty safe inspite of what people think. I'm all for the one click root apps but it's better (and maybe required) to downgrade to Froyo first.
The REAL problem people have is learning adb. It's easy for us veterans but does seem difficult for most people and the command prompt can be intimidating. the only thing I can suggest is put the adb in a folder that you can remember and just copying and pasting commands. just make sure the spaces in the lines are right and its pretty safe.
About this root tool, yeah, I'd say its much safer to use a reputable method than something new.
and with the virus scanners basically calling all root related stuff viruses... there's no way to check for sure if its safe or not. That's why its probably best to go on reputation. The root exploits are what they say they are: an exploit like some viruses in that category. I recommend Avira virus app for windows because it will actually show you the particular virus in their library/database and it's definition and its use. Very handy app along with AVG. Well... good luck to all!
adamchap said:
You know, there are ZERO decent guides, even I'm afraid to say, here on xda on how to successfully, easily and preferrably with a single click, root a Desire Z - and I've been desperate to do mine for a long time. The problem is a lot of the guides have dead links, hard to follow or half missing instructions.
Anyway.
This looked like deep joy, so I just installed it, ran it, changed to USB debug mode, hit "root" against my device and the upshot was that it looked like it went through the process, did a reboot, then still no root (checked with a root checker app and with Avast, trying to access Firewall mode which needs root).
I'm gutted, I thought I could finally make root happen without WAY too complex instructions.
Desire Z, GSM, 2.3.3 unbranded here if that helps anyone out.
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Wiki guide is the only one you need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
But it really doesn't sound like you want a guide, you want a one-click solution. This seems to be an increasing trend, as more of the masses get interested in rooting, but don't want to put forth any effort.
It would seem to me that having root, without an understanding of some of the basic terms, concepts, and tools, is a dangerous place to be. Modding your phone without some basic knowledge can get you in a real mess, without the tools to get you out of it.
Do yourself a favor, just start reading. Understand the guide, roll up your sleeves and do it. Its really not that hard. But it will take some time, as many of the terms, tools, procedures will be new to you. But you'll be better for it in the long run. HTC has a tendency to protect their devices from one-click root apps. So if you like HTC devices, you may as well get used to the fact that rooted is a process, and not one click. Plus, with any ROM flashing or other modding, things like ADB are good to know and be able to use, in case things go awry.
Anything in the guide that you don't understand can usually be answered by just using the XDA search function, or Googling around the net. If you make a halfway legit attempt to research the question yourself, and still don't get it, come back to the forums and ask, and somebody will help you.
Agree with Redpoint73.
A tool that does system manipulation on a remote platform isn't a virus on the platform it's run, so programs that manipulate your windows host file perform actions similar to what some viruses do. Open an ADB and push a few commands is NOT that so if your system warns, take that seriously! Even if I would love to have a SuperOneClick give me root on my HTZ Desire Z (work phone so I really shouldn't mess with it) I am NOT interested in touching something like this. Why would someone register a domain and make an entire homepage, rather than posting the code here, unless it was fishy?
I would be ready to bet that these guys can monitize on this in one way or another, so it *might* work as a root but rest assure that either the PC or the phone is contaminated when it's done.
The point of one-click rooting is just to get to the features I want that I've been locked out from... using a firewall app, using a backup app, maybe a quick flash of a ROM without operator bloatware in it - a couple of other features like that. I'm sure the majority of users such as me don't feel we should NEED to learn command sets and technical stuff that we don't need to, nor have the time in our lives to learn.
It's all about features and user experience for me - and I can't get to those features without root. I don't want to do anything complex, arcane or put nightlies on, but simply have a lighter ROM with a couple of more features, and that doesn't need anything more than a button marked "Root".
Cheers for all the input on this everyone.
Hey there! I put together a complete video walkthrough for converting your FireTV to an XBMC box.
This includes:
Root
Preventing Amazon updates
Making XBMC the launcher
Installing apps to XBMC homepage
Demo of Mupen64+(N64 emulator) and Reflector (Airplay)
Remember, if you are buying a new FireTV, make sure to follow the instructions here to make sure it doesn't update to an unrootable version. In short, either block access at the router level, or disconnect wifi / ethernet right after you start the device and connect to the network, before the download of the new version can finish.
Enjoy! Let me know if you'd like me to do video walkthroughs of anything else, like using stickmount, connecting to Windows computers over the network, etc.
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Hey there! I put together a complete video walkthrough for converting your FireTV to an XBMC box. This includes:
Root
Preventing Amazon updates
Making XBMC the launcher
Installing apps to XBMC homepage
Demo of Mupen64+(N64 emulator) and Reflector (Airplay)
Remember, if you are buying a new FireTV, make sure to follow the instructions here to make sure it doesn't update to an unrootable version. In short, either block access at the router level, or disconnect wifi / ethernet right after you start the device and connect to the network, before the download of the new version can finish.
Enjoy! Let me know if you'd like me to do video walkthroughs of anything else, like using stickmount, connecting to Windows computers over the network, etc.
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Sweet, nice!
Great walk through wish I could use the whole lot.
Mainly using xbmc and its a great improvement on my Pi but as I am in UK no root so a "here's what you can do with unrooted AFTV" vid would nice, having said that the llama trick for short cut works great and I don't think I need much more
Great Effort. You should do another tutorial using FireTVUtility. I would be easier, w/o any commands to type directly in adb shell.
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Great Effort. You should do another tutorial using FireTVUtility. I would be easier, w/o any commands to type directly in adb shell.
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I'll look into it. It doesn't look like it really needs any help though- I haven't used this program in particular, but my experience with pc-side all in one solutions is that if they work, they work, and if they don't, there's not much the user can do to fix it. It also seems that the developer is pretty active, so any video I make may be out of date rather quickly. That being said, if other folks agree that there should be a tutorial for this, I'll put it together.
Thanks for passing this utility on, though. Tools like this were essential to me when I started messing with cm 10 on an old phone of mine last year, which extended its useful life until I got my (glorious) OnePlus in July. My experience there really hit me with the modding bug, and I have been messing with android since. The purpose of the video was to help introduce people to the idea that android is open and ready to tinker with, in addition to taking advantage of the FireTV's potential with Kodi. If you have any more requests though, I'd love to hear them, and I'll do my best to fulfill them as time permits
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Hey, Thx for the awesome Video. Just a question....How do you get it to automatically boot into XBMC? I want to use XBMC as my home screen/launcher like you have shown in your video. I really appreciate it! Thanks!
Correction: HDExposed section
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Hey, Thx for the awesome Video. Just a question....How do you get it to automatically boot into XBMC? I want to use XBMC as my home screen/launcher like you have shown in your video. I really appreciate it! Thanks!
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Hey there,
Sorry about the confusion. Looks like in my hasty editing I accidentally cut out a step. I've added an annotation to the video that addresses this, so you should be set if you re-watch minutes 21-25 of the video. I accidentally forgot to include that you need to go into the Modules section of HDExposed and, using a mouse, check the two boxes there as well before you reboot.
Thanks for pointing that out!
This is a great tutorial! Thank you
I have a couple of other fire TVs to root that I'm going to pass off to my friends. If
I complete the root and disable the ota updates at my house, when they plug it in their home, the firetvs won't loose the root right? Should they still add the 2 sites to block
On their router?
Berrybare said:
This is a great tutorial! Thank you
I have a couple of other fire TVs to root that I'm going to pass off to my friends. If
I complete the root and disable the ota updates at my house, when they plug it in their home, the firetvs won't loose the root right? Should they still add the 2 sites to block
On their router?
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Hey there!
Glad you like my walkthrough. If you use the router-level blocking method, it will need to be applied to any and every network the FireTV connects to. This is a great way to guarantee that the FireTV does not update, but should only be considered a temporary method until you can disable updating permanently on the device itself. If you go to around minute 14 of my video, you'll see how to disable the update function on the device itself. This is the only way to guarantee that the device won't update in the future, no matter what it connects to.
Because of the issue with devices connecting and automatically updating to an unrootable version, I'd recommend you do the network-level update blocker (like it sounds like you've already done) and then use the device-level root prevention I described in the video.
Please let me know if you have any questions
Berrybare said:
This is a great tutorial! Thank you
I have a couple of other fire TVs to root that I'm going to pass off to my friends. If
I complete the root and disable the ota updates at my house, when they plug it in their home, the firetvs won't loose the root right? Should they still add the 2 sites to block
On their router?
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Ultimate protection is having CWM aka custom recovery install. On top of the disabled OTA Update. Both done very easily with the AFTV Utility app mentioned above... Everybody should keep their routers blocking the IP's. Specially if you are going to be working on non-rooted AFTV's. But you can run an CWM'd AFTV on an unblocking router if it can't be helped.
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Hey there!
Glad you like my walkthrough. If you use the router-level blocking method, it will need to be applied to any and every network the FireTV connects to. This is a great way to guarantee that the FireTV does not update, but should only be considered a temporary method until you can disable updating permanently on the device itself. If you go to around minute 14 of my video, you'll see how to disable the update function on the device itself. This is the only way to guarantee that the device won't update in the future, no matter what it connects to.
Because of the issue with devices connecting and automatically updating to an unrootable version, I'd recommend you do the network-level update blocker (like it sounds like you've already done) and then use the device-level root prevention I described in the video.
Please let me know if you have any questions
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Although I would wait for the next release of both apss (adbFire & AFTV Utility) since so much has change the last 24 hours (unlock bootloader + new CWM). I would love to see a video using the AFTV Utility app to take care of all including the new options. Including the Mount external USB storage script.... It would be massive but all encompassing. I think the only thing waiting for an update is RBox's [XPosed] Mod's... Specifically the menu items part...
Sounds great. Post here when the new software is ready and I will get recording!
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Sounds great. Post here when the new software is ready and I will get recording!
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Great.. Will let you know when it gets posted..
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Hey there!
If you go to around minute 14 of my video, you'll see how to disable the update function on the device itself. This is the only way to guarantee that the device won't update in the future, no matter what it connects to.
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Is there an adb command to verify the "pm disable com.amazon.dcp" status. I ran this command months ago and have had no unwanted updates ruin root on the Fire TV. Perhaps, it is not necessary but just looking to be sure.
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Is there an adb command to verify the "pm disable com.amazon.dcp" status. I ran this command months ago and have had no unwanted updates ruin root on the Fire TV. Perhaps, it is not necessary but just looking to be sure.
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I don't know, but if you don't have router level blocking and you haven't received any updates, you are safe. Usually the update occurs quite quickly.
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I don't know, but if you don't have router level blocking and you haven't received any updates, you are safe. Usually the update occurs quite quickly.
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Sorry for bumping, I just wondered if there was any advance on the new software/video?
I have an untouched UK AFTV and just waiting for this video with new software for the complete start to finish setup before i do something wrong!
Let me know if im better off just following your first video if this new software stuff is not going to be released for a while.
Thanks
My recommendation is always to code by hand. That's how I learned, and I feel like it's a great way to learn about how Android really works. That being said, it's not for everyone, and I understand any nervousness you may have.
I'll probably have the video using the tool by the end of the week.
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My recommendation is always to code by hand. That's how I learned, and I feel like it's a great way to learn about how Android really works. That being said, it's not for everyone, and I understand any nervousness you may have.
I'll probably have the video using the tool by the end of the week.
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Unfortunately im not very technically minded, and would end up messing up unless I followed a guide from someone who knows their stuff!!
I will keep it in the wrapper until you can bring out the new video, id feel a lot safer and not end up bricking it or non rootable forever!
If i can make one request, I really will just want to use the AFTV for XBMC and maybe some emulators... So if its possible to include how to have the quickest access to XBMC from boot, id really appreciate it. Not sure how easily that is done with a non rootable AFTV?
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Unfortunately im not very technically minded, and would end up messing up unless I followed a guide from someone who knows their stuff!!
I will keep it in the wrapper until you can bring out the new video, id feel a lot safer and not end up bricking it or non rootable forever!
If i can make one request, I really will just want to use the AFTV for XBMC and maybe some emulators... So if its possible to include how to have the quickest access to XBMC from boot, id really appreciate it. Not sure how easily that is done with a non rootable AFTV?
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I understand your concern. However, I would definitely consider rooting the device. While you can use XBMC and play emulators on the FTV without root, it is pretty inconvenient. Rooting isn't hard, and shouldn't be something that scares you at all.
If you are willing, my video shows you exactly what to type every step of the way. There's lots of support if you get lost, and you can always ask me questions here- I don't mind looking up documentation for you if you need it. If you have access to your router, once you have blocked the update sites there, you will be safe to take as long as you need to.
I'll try to have the other videos done soon. I wish I had more time in my life right now for stuff like that, but you know we all have to make a living somehow
I'll be sure to post in here when the tutorials are done.
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Sorry for bumping, I just wondered if there was any advance on the new software/video?
I have an untouched UK AFTV and just waiting for this video with new software for the complete start to finish setup before i do something wrong!
Let me know if im better off just following your first video if this new software stuff is not going to be released for a while.
Thanks
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swiss_lis said:
Unfortunately im not very technically minded, and would end up messing up unless I followed a guide from someone who knows their stuff!!
I will keep it in the wrapper until you can bring out the new video, id feel a lot safer and not end up bricking it or non rootable forever!
If i can make one request, I really will just want to use the AFTV for XBMC and maybe some emulators... So if its possible to include how to have the quickest access to XBMC from boot, id really appreciate it. Not sure how easily that is done with a non rootable AFTV?
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Those that bought their FTV's in the UK or GER & did not import US FTV's. The best you can hope for right now is block the two IP's so it doesn't keep auto updating. In case there is ever a new rooting option. UK & GER FTV's can not be rooted. You should setup your FTV with XBMC & anything else you would like within the unrooted options.
Once you have properly blocked update IP's & boot up & check your FW version which 99.99% chance it will be 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 (Unrootable) . You should feel safe to play with your FTV...
What router do you have ?? This link just shows you pictures of different IP blocking router interfaces like Tomato, DD-WRT, Asus, NetGear, Untangle, OpenDNS..
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-amazon-fire-tv-update-to-ensure-rooting/
This one tells you what to block now...
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-setup-a-new-fire-tv-without-blocking-root/
Method 1: Domain blocking with Router – Recommended Method
1. Before powering on the Fire TV, go into your router’s settings and block access to the following two domains:
amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net
softwareupdates.amazon.com
If you do not know how to do this, you can refer to my guide or search the internet for instruction for your particular router.
NOTE: Do NOT block firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com as it is unnecessary for blocking updates and will cause problems during the initial setup if blocked.
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Start enjoying your FTV as soon as you block those IP's correctly after verifying the FW you's came with...
Want to thank you both for good indepth responses.
I will be giving it a go tomorrow hopefully. Hoping that if i block updates for now then a root option may become available somewhere down the line, but till then i will enjoy the improvement of XBMC on the FTV rather than my rather slow raspberry Pi.
Many thanks guys
Ok, so I got an old Nook Simple Touch. In part because they can be had for such a cheap price on eBay these days and in part because they're among the few eInk based devices that run on Android and can actually be unlocked and more done with them than the manufacturers intended (I've used an old Kindle and man I hate how locked down and generally useless they are.) Actually, I was hoping I could do some neat stuff like setup daydream with weather info and a clock and all on it while the screen was "off" but I guess I forgot that this is a relatively new thing and it looks like it's based on a really really old Android version? Either way, I'm so used to CyanogenMod and its relatively near to AOSP nature that this thing is feeling horribly limiting and unpleasant to use for me.
Anyway, I've been searching around for various guides and such. I've found tools for rooting and putting the Google Market (yeesh, I forgot they used to call it "Market" ages ago.) It seems I needed to update the system to 1.1 for this (I had bootloops until I did, so clearly you have to have the right system version.) It seems there is a newer version or two beyond this though, but I didn't see root tools (I'm still hoping I can do more with this that might require root access to actually do.) Should I be updating beyond that? Namely, are there tools to actually root and all if I do?
Also, in the meantime, I'm running into troubles with the plain and simple fact that neither Google Market nor Amazon's app store installed by these tools work which may not be fixable. The thread on here says to add an account through Youtube first, then go to gmail and manually refresh over and over until it eventually crashes. After probably 15 minutes of this my hands were too tired to continue though. I just don't think it's supposed to take 15 minutes though. When I start the market it doesn't crash like that guide mentions either. Is there any other way to fix this? Is there any point? Obviously the market app is quite old, so perhaps it's simply never going to work? Is there some alternative way to find stuff that actually works on the NST? I thought to do F-Droid, but even it requires a newer SDK version apparently (I'm getting kind of curious what version of Android its base corresponds to. Does it predate 2.2? If so I may be in trouble since I don't think any of the stuff I was hoping I could put on there will go lower than 2.2.)
For this matter, is there a better way I can do stuff like loading apps? I was hoping to at least have a file manager to be able to use do stuff, but they didn't include one. I'll probably have to track down an apk. For now I'm having to actually use the network adb (I installed the version of the tools that was supposed to do adb over USB, but it doesn't even show up as an adb device at all for me to even so much as install a driver, so I guess it's not doing adb over USB as it should. The network method seems to work, though I'm not a big fan of leaving it wide open like that on principle really, yet remembering to manually change it on and off is a pain too.)
I realize this is a really old device and probably it is very limited what I can really do with it, but I was hoping I could at least squeeze a bit of use out of it. In particular, I'm going to need a much better reading app even if I use it for its intended purpose only. When I looked it up I had thought it was a close enough to stock Android that I'd be able to load up most apps I guess and I didn't think it would be so hard to even get anything on it.
Whew!
OK, let's start with basics. You didn't say how you rooted it but if you're working from 1.1 you probably are not getting the best out of the device. 1.21 is the final stock version. If you can get your NST back to stock, I would recommend doing so. Considering what you seem to have done already probably the easiest way to go is to use the NookManager route. Go here. Follow the instructions. There is info there for adding a Gapps package after rooting. But first get yourself back to 1.21 stock. Once that's done you can either use the Search Market tool from the Gapps package, or find apps on your computer and have them show up on the NST via the PlayStore, or side-load apps from the SD card or via ADB (default on that is WiFi with NookManager--you can install the ADB Konnect app and it works fine). There are plenty of alternate readers that run on the NST. I happen to like the stock reader very much, but to each his/her own.
When all that's done, everything depends on what your expectations are and what you want from your NST. There are a variety of kernals out there as well as USB host/audio mods. Although the Android system is old and the display limits what you can do, there are many apps that run well on the device and I personally get a lot of use out of mine, even more now that I have audio. Check out what I've done (second post) and look at what others have done (in the same thread).
There's a lot of good info in this forum on modifications, apps that run well (and don't) and many tips and tricks.
I think I have most of what I need with that actually, yes. I didn't realize from the guides I initially found that you could root or install third party components with a > 1.1 system version. With that stuff I do have a semi-working Google Market now and can actually install a lot more stuff than I thought. I see also my favorite reader app not only works, but apparently knows I'm running it on a device with an eInk screen and defaults to having eInk adaptations turned on.
Is there any way it can do anything like what I had sort of envisioned before btw? Eg on the screen "off" mode have some sort of thing that shows weather or news or something that updates every so often? (Nevermind the clock thing, that's probably a bad idea. I was just wondering about dedicating it to being sort of something like a clock with it plugged in all the time. Now I think maybe I can stop using my tablet for reading and use this instead.)
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Is there any way it can do anything like what I had sort of envisioned before btw? Eg on the screen "off" mode have some sort of thing that shows weather or news or something that updates every so often? (Nevermind the clock thing, that's probably a bad idea. I was just wondering about dedicating it to being sort of something like a clock with it plugged in all the time. Now I think maybe I can stop using my tablet for reading and use this instead.)
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Sounds like you are having CM lockscreen widget withdrawal
Actually that seems like a job for Tasker. But it would be potentially messy. You'd need to:
1. Clear image in custom screensaver folder
2. Turn on wi-fi
3. Open weather/whatever app to update info
4. Take screenshot and save to custom screensaver folder
5. Close app
6. Turn off wi-fi
At that point when the Nook goes to sleep the info will be displayed on the lock screen. The question is whether Tasker can wake up the Nook and repeat this at desired intervals when you're not using it.
Also, have a look here for something along the same lines. Maybe you'll get an idea.
Ironically on my phone and tablet I keep it really simple. It's just that the eInk screen of the Nook can essentially be "always on" so to speak without draining the battery like mad (since it would only actually need to wake up every half hour or so for a frequent update schedule.)
But, all that said, it just doesn't sound like this is really worth all the effort. I guess I'm actually more used to newer versions of Android mostly rather than CyanogenMod specifically as they just have more power in what these things can do. With the Nook -- even unlocked and opened up -- it really sounds like the amount of time and effort required to even remotely approach such a thing is orders of magnitude higher. Well, that's fine. I had initially thought that I might maybe just use it as some sort of really neat "smart clock" type thing (at $35-ish on eBay you won't find many clocks that could come close to doing what an Android device could theoretically do) but in the end I don't think this is really all that realistic and definitely not worth the effort. On the other hand, now that I'm able to get more stuff actually running on it and open up its capabilities more I'm thinking I could maybe use this thing for something more akin to its original intended purpose: reading. From time to time I want my tablet to be able to do a bit more and I think this can do pretty well everything I care about beyond the basic reading stuff, so maybe I can stop carrying my tablet around all the time. (And for stuff like music I have a dedicated multimedia phone courtesy of eBay that's much better off really.)