Well, this was WAY to easy to modify this and get root access to. Being a experienced linux guru it was a peice of cake, hardly any linux commands are needed to mod this phone. VERY easy to do with a factory rc30 phone. Just downgrade, than upgrade w/ modded firmware from jesus freak 1.4 btw adds a LOT of features (auto tilt browser, multitouch browser, few other goodies). If anyone has any questions.... READ THE TUTORIAL AGAIN. Its about the easiest thing you can do on a computer next to syncing your own phone.... the drivers for you people with xp are.... EASY. its a normal installation of the driver that you need to browse the phones SD card anyways and should be installed regardless of modding or not. Transfering a file to the phone and just running the recovery mode update? Cant get any easier for us.
you r so smrt
*Smacks Head*
I should have had a V8.
I will come here to this thread for further updates.
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Well, this was WAY to easy to modify this and get root access to. Being a experienced linux guru it was a peice of cake, hardly any linux commands are needed to mod this phone. VERY easy to do with a factory rc30 phone. Just downgrade, than upgrade w/ modded firmware from jesus freak 1.4 btw adds a LOT of features (auto tilt browser, multitouch browser, few other goodies). If anyone has any questions.... READ THE TUTORIAL AGAIN. Its about the easiest thing you can do on a computer next to syncing your own phone.... the drivers for you people with xp are.... EASY. its a normal installation of the driver that you need to browse the phones SD card anyways and should be installed regardless of modding or not. Transfering a file to the phone and just running the recovery mode update? Cant get any easier for us.
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im glad it was easy for you, most of it is pretty much basic computer skills, and following instructions nothing really to master, i particular glad because some people were complaining about rooting recently bought phone and i though google/tmobile figured something out...
nah i hadnt an issue, not sure about future phones though. Came factory rc30 and only took a few hours to get it back to rc29 and right back to jf's rc30. Not really a whole lot to do with it right now. Just the beginning of the "android revolution". We just jumped on the bandwagon early
inpherno3 said:
Well, this was WAY to easy to modify this and get root access to. Being a experienced linux guru it was a peice of cake, hardly any linux commands are needed to mod this phone. VERY easy to do with a factory rc30 phone. Just downgrade, than upgrade w/ modded firmware from jesus freak 1.4 btw adds a LOT of features (auto tilt browser, multitouch browser, few other goodies). If anyone has any questions.... READ THE TUTORIAL AGAIN. Its about the easiest thing you can do on a computer next to syncing your own phone.... the drivers for you people with xp are.... EASY. its a normal installation of the driver that you need to browse the phones SD card anyways and should be installed regardless of modding or not. Transfering a file to the phone and just running the recovery mode update? Cant get any easier for us.
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While an alleged "linux guru", you, sir, are clearly not a "spelling guru" or "grammar guru".
You also seem to be preaching to the choir. Do you also plan to break into the Snuggie factory and explain to everyone working on the floor that it's a blanket you can wear?
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nah i hadnt an issue, not sure about future phones though. Came factory rc30 and only took a few hours to get it back to rc29 and right back to jf's rc30. Not really a whole lot to do with it right now. Just the beginning of the "android revolution". We just jumped on the bandwagon early
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a few hours? maybe u r nt smrt.
altezza2k2 said:
a few hours? maybe u r nt smrt.
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Yea it only took me a little over half an hour.....and im only 15.. lol
lol it took me about 2 hours and im 16 dealing with myspace and facebook and dealing with all sorts messaging client while i performed it so you sir
are an idiot
Did I do that?
http://www.undergroundnews.com/gallery/main.php/v/fodder/fodder_owned/pwnt3mu.jpg.html
um...mine was rooted with no issues in under 10 minutes...
Wow!
You guys are hilarious.
is there a way to make the htc keyboard louder? its always quieter than the system sounds and thats a little bit annoying to me. if i wnated to hear the keyboard clicks better, then phone clicks would be too loud.
Small problem.
The audio feedback for the HTC_IME is "standard" and based from what is referred to as "comfortable" sound level.
Meaning; it's supposed to be subtle. Might I suggest installing Better Keyboard from Better Android. They equipped it with quite the "audio feedback boost."
(sidenote - have you considered the audio hack?)
i dont want to root my phone, so tell me about this audio hack
There's your issue.
If you manually install the HTC_IME to your device, whether it's the G1 or MyTouch is irrelevant...most of the "features" do not come along with the keyboard.
Unless you push it via ADB or installed the keyboard directly into your system files...it functions almost like an "application." Therefore, you cannot even access the calibration tutorial that is shipped with the HTC_IME.
As for the "audio hack" - that is something you also need root access for. Unfortunately, if that's something you're not interested in doing, then I cannot further assist you. Sorry.
do i have to root to push it via adb?
i just dont want to root right now because my phone works nicely, i'll probably root in the future when someone compiles an easier method that doesnt need a couple hours of my time preparing a goldcard. its definitely something ive considered, just too risky at this time.
Where have you been?
kchau said:
do i have to root to push it via adb?
i just dont want to root right now because my phone works nicely, i'll probably root in the future when someone compiles an easier method that doesnt need a couple hours of my time preparing a goldcard. its definitely something ive considered, just too risky at this time.
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Funny thing about that...THERE IS A MUCH EASIER METHOD TO ROOTING YOUR DEVICE! If you haven't heard about the miracle that is referred to as, "The One-Click Root Method" - then you're basically living under a rock.
Here's a thought. Considering the ONE-CLICK METHOD allows you to simply flash Cyanogen's latest recovery image to your phone...you can power down your device, then boot it into recovery, HOLDING DOWN - HOME + POWER BUTTON until you come to the splash screen (i.e. - G1 or MyTouch screen) - THEN, technically you're ROOTED.
If you provide me with your GMAIL I would be glad to send you the APK file for the application used to access this process. Along with provide a simple step-by-step guide.
ive been reluctant to try this. can you link me to this one click root and the instructions to get cyanogen rom working?
also its possible to get unrooted for warranty reasons right?
ok, i rooted my phone, so what about this sound hack?
Time to thread hunt.
This is where I leave you.
You need to thread hunt, so to speak. Or even consider a Google search to track down some topics or blog spots that pertain to this issue.
There is an application available from the Android Market, but I believe it's a PAID application. Keep that in mind as a last resort...just in case.
one last thing about the htc keyboard.
is there a way to see the words that the htc keyboard has learned? and delete some words? or even a way to reset the dictionary so that the custom words are removed?
I have been reading this forum for some weeks now and wanted to thank you all for the great info here. I got my first Android phone (Vibrant) a few weeks ago.
I found out about rooting just yesterday. Since I really don't want to spend a lot of time troubleshooting the phone, I had a few questions to figure out whether I should root or not:
Will rooting my phone be overall worth it? Will I have to troubleshoot it a lot as a result? It works well now.
How will the updates work in the future? For example, I won't have to worry about Android 2.2 because it will be included in Cyanogen? Will my phone notify me when it's time to update?
This one is important: are there any instructions that tell me how to backup my current phone so that I can restore it to the original condition in case something happens?
Is Cyanogen accepted to be the best for rooting?
Will all my applications become uninstalled? Will anything else change besides my access level? I read some conflicting into on this.
Can you think of any disadvantages to rooting (other than possible voiding of warranty if you can't hide it)?
Do you guys have a list in this forum as to which applications are bloatware and should be removed (and are safe to remove)? I don't know anything about Android, so I have no idea
And finally, is there a thread/list where all the most important/useful applications that should be installed after rooting are listed? I know titanium backup is one. I couldn't understand what BusyBox does. So a list with explanations would be great.
I haven't liked the battery life of this phone and I am hoping that after removing all the bloatware from it that issue might be fixed as well. My phone starts with 160M+ memory. Even though I keep killing open applications, the performance keeps dropping over time until I can't get more memory beyond ~90M. This is when I have to shut down the phone and turn back on. Other than tethering, my main reason for rooting is 1.performance gain and 2.battery life extension.
Thanks for all the help. A lot of talented people on this forum.
There is no reason to not root this phone in my opinion. You can unroot it. You will get OTA updates using the stock ROM. Many of the recommended apps, guides, useful information is in the sticky at the top. Please read that, then ask any more detailed question you may have.
edit: when you root, there will be NO change to your apps/contacts/settings/etc.... you will reboot and be like "well, am I rooted?"... look for the superuser app in your app drawer, there? Good, you were successful.
Ok, you got an excellent thread there that pretty much answered all my questions! I will root my phone and get back here if I have any more questions, with a cleaned up list. Thanks.
will applying the RyanZA fix stop the OTA update?
A lot of people have this misconception that rooting means modifying their phone. Rooting by itself is not really modifying anything on your phone, all it does is give you super user privileges.
Think of your Mac or Windows PC, you have administrative accounts and you have user accounts. Admins can do anything, user accounts are typically limited.
When you have root access to your phone, you are the admin. You can access features that default account can't.
With that said, once you do have su you step into a whole new world with many different paths. You can can simply stay rooted and use apps that required root access and leave it at that.
Or you can dive into custom ROMs. This is where you step off the manufacturers intended path and follow community developed versions of the operating system.
Alternatively, in between those two extremes above you can do many things in between. You can stay with stock rom but have custom (modules or programs) APKs, or other modifications that change or expand on stock ROM.
Always keep in mind that once you choose to root, what happens to your device is your responsibility. Once again, your responsibility. If you are not willing to accept that, then stay non-rooted/stock and responsibility will be on Samsung to add/remove features, provide updates, fix bugs, etc.
Ok, so a few questions:
I bought Autostart and hid the system apps. Now what? I don't know what to disable from this list. There are applications, but they are listed under several categories. For example, "Application Removed." I have no idea what that category is for. Should I just worry about "After Startup"? Please elaborate.
You don't recommend AppKiller. Won't all those open applications just drain the battery? For example, if I have TeleNav open, how can I close it after I am done using it without AKiller?
There is an entire thread of various people posting various things, but I still would like to see just ONE combined list of all the "safe" bloatware to remove and "risky" ones. That thread did not help me at all since various people are reporting various things.
You recommend Root Explorer, which is kind of expensive. Is there any reason why I can't use the uninstall function of Titanium Backup? Is it any less thorough?
Where is the restart function?
How can I disable those annoying power down and power up sounds of the phone? Can this be done without lowering system volume?
Thanks!
Awesome, Glad to hear your root went well.
1. I bought Autostart and hid the system apps. Now what? I don't know what to disable from this list. There are applications, but they are listed under several categories. For example, "Application Removed." I have no idea what that category is for. Should I just worry about "After Startup"? Please elaborate.
I remove almost all non-system apps unless it is logical wht said app would need to function, aka, text received you would not want to block messanger/handcent..... if there is something you are questioning, just let me know.
2. You don't recommend AppKiller. Won't all those open applications just drain the battery? For example, if I have TeleNav open, how can I close it after I am done using it without AKiller?
Now that you have root, remove all of the bloatware and it will not be an issue. These run in the background and very likely are not using ANY of your resources.
3. There is an entire thread of various people posting various things, but I still would like to see just ONE combined list of all the "safe" bloatware to remove and "risky" ones. That thread did not help me at all since various people are reporting various things.
I used that thread because a lot of people posted the apps they removed. Almost all of them can be removed, if there is one you are questioning, let me know.
4. You recommend Root Explorer, which is kind of expensive. Is there any reason why I can't use the uninstall function of Titanium Backup? Is it any less thorough?
I mentioned in the sticky that I do not use TB. I know it allows you to remove apps, but Root Explorer does this and a lot more. For example..... #6
5. Where is the restart function?
Not sure I know what you mean? if you want a reboot option you can get Quick Boot from the market.
6. How can I disable those annoying power down and power up sounds of the phone? Can this be done without lowering system volume?
In the sticky I show where the files are located. With Root Explorer you can navigate to them and delete the files.
I agree with a lot on this thread. A master Guide for rooting/unrooting and usage should be made. The FAQ currently stickied is informative for the most part but it focuses on far too many things to be able to go into enough detail on each. Personally I would like a "All things root" guide or something sticked which is comprehensive and focuses JUST on that, with the most common root usage apps and things posted (including safe disabling or removal of bloat, backing up, flashing roms, etc.) so that people who have NO idea whatsoever and it is their first phone or something can just read that and feel at home. I may start working on one if no one else does it, we'll see.
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so that people who have NO idea whatsoever and it is their first phone or something can just read that and feel at home.
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I'd say that if someone has no idea what they are doing, the last thing they should be attempting is flashing firmware on their phone.
The layer of obscurity and technical difficulty associated with rooting/modding is of benefit in terms of preventing people from doing things they should not be doing without sufficient knowledge base.
There is plenty of info here and online in general to start someone off if they are interested in learning about this in general.
IMHO, creating a trail of bread crumbs for someone who doesn't know what they are doing is more likely to hurt them or community in general rather than help them.
In my experience rooting your could be fun and a nightmare, if not done properly and, you have of time on you're you could become a rom switching addict cyanogen is currently available for the vibrant you can still root, but you will be on stock vibrant rom.till samsung release the source code so no froyo.and the rumor is that they won't release the source code.
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s15274n said:
Awesome, Glad to hear your root went well.
1. I bought Autostart and hid the system apps. Now what? I don't know what to disable from this list. There are applications, but they are listed under several categories. For example, "Application Removed." I have no idea what that category is for. Should I just worry about "After Startup"? Please elaborate.
I remove almost all non-system apps unless it is logical wht said app would need to function, aka, text received you would not want to block messanger/handcent..... if there is something you are questioning, just let me know.
2. You don't recommend AppKiller. Won't all those open applications just drain the battery? For example, if I have TeleNav open, how can I close it after I am done using it without AKiller?
Now that you have root, remove all of the bloatware and it will not be an issue. These run in the background and very likely are not using ANY of your resources.
3. There is an entire thread of various people posting various things, but I still would like to see just ONE combined list of all the "safe" bloatware to remove and "risky" ones. That thread did not help me at all since various people are reporting various things.
I used that thread because a lot of people posted the apps they removed. Almost all of them can be removed, if there is one you are questioning, let me know.
4. You recommend Root Explorer, which is kind of expensive. Is there any reason why I can't use the uninstall function of Titanium Backup? Is it any less thorough?
I mentioned in the sticky that I do not use TB. I know it allows you to remove apps, but Root Explorer does this and a lot more. For example..... #6
5. Where is the restart function?
Not sure I know what you mean? if you want a reboot option you can get Quick Boot from the market.
6. How can I disable those annoying power down and power up sounds of the phone? Can this be done without lowering system volume?
In the sticky I show where the files are located. With Root Explorer you can navigate to them and delete the files.
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1. What I don't understand is that the category says "New Outgoing Call" and GVoice beneath it. So I should NOT disable it, right? Because it has nothing to do with startup? But if so, then almost every other category has nothing to do with startup either. It is only the first listing that says "After Startup" and it misses A LOT of applications that do start up, like TeleNav. I don't even see TeleNav anywhere in that list. Same is true for "Email," Gallery," "Voice Dialer," and a bunch of other apps that I don't want to start on startup. I don't see any way of killing these other than by ATKiller. Am I missing something here?
2. See the problem is this: right now I have Telenav and I use it sometimes. However, I don't want it to run just whenever. So if I don't want to uninstall it, isn't my only solution ATKiller? There are other programs like this. And I can't disable them from the Autostart menu either since they're not there (Filtered out System files).
3. That site does not list what each of the bloatware does. For example, I am not sure I want to remove Account and Sync because I might need it for my bills. Same thing with "MyFiles." I don't even know what "vvm" is.
4. I am not able to tether the phone. I already tried Barnacle and it said "Running..." after I disabled supplicant, used channel 6, and disable ad-hoc. Then I tried this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739147&highlight=tether, but I am still not able to connect. My laptop detects the phone as "computer-to-computer network," but when I click connect, it keeps trying to connect and then doesn't. I am not sure where to go from here.
Thanks.
One more thing I still don't know: how are the updates going to work from now on? Whenever an Android update comes out, like 2.1update or Froyo, do I have to come here and do everything manually? Or is there a way from within the phone to find out with one click? I am assuming whatever update is available for the phone will also be available for custom download (otherwise I could unroot, update, reroot?).
Thanks.
By the way, I also agree about a complete guide. It's not that it will enable the clueless to mess up their phone, but rather the opposite - it will allow the clueless to become cluefull. Such a guide would be very helpful. Meanwhile I am having to jump from thread to thread and then to Google trying to find out about this or that. That's not to say that the guide available isn't very helpful already.
I've already contacted a few people about starting said guide. I have not got much feedback from people willing to help....
^ you've asked a lot man... I can try and answer some, but you need to keep doing some reading. I feel like I've offered up a lot as is.
Just b/c you have root, does not mean you will not receive the OTA updates. If Froyo is released, you can update from the phone, you will lose root though. Most of us, will wait for the developers to have a stock froyo + root that we can flash.
why use telenav? I am not familiar.. just curious why not use google nav?
autostarts, just b/c you have it set to not start an app on boot, does not mean when you click the icon to open it will cause an issue. Really not that big of a deal. If you notice an issue, just set the app back to enabled.
Do not use a task killer.
The thread I linked has plenty of information for what you can remove from the phone, with instructions.... same for the barnacle tether app. If you want, download Wireless Tether, google it... the source code is on google.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
androidaddict23 said:
In my experience rooting your could be fun and a nightmare, if not done properly and, you have of time on you're you could become a rom switching addict cyanogen is currently available for the vibrant you can still root, but you will be on stock vibrant rom.till samsung release the source code so no froyo.and the rumor is that they won't release the source code.
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Cyanogen is not yet available for the Vibrant. It will soon.
Froyo-cooked ROMS are already out for the Vibrant (alas with some bugs) so I don't think there's a reason to think Cyanogen won't be on Froyo.
Also: Never having done a root/rom flash does not make someone stupid or signify they should never try it. It just means they should READ some documentation and be technically up to the challenge before they do. I don't think having a clear guide on most of the process will hurt anyone who is coming into this but doesn't yet know all the details and steps of what to do.
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Ok, you got an excellent thread there that pretty much answered all my questions! I will root my phone and get back here if I have any more questions, with a cleaned up list. Thanks.
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glad the root went well for you. I am wanting to root my phone too, but not sure which root method is easiest and best.
Which root method did you use?
I had a mytouch rooted before the Vibrant, but they are way different and I dont want to screw up
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I've already contacted a few people about starting said guide. I have not got much feedback from people willing to help....
^ you've asked a lot man... I can try and answer some, but you need to keep doing some reading. I feel like I've offered up a lot as is.
Just b/c you have root, does not mean you will not receive the OTA updates. If Froyo is released, you can update from the phone, you will lose root though. Most of us, will wait for the developers to have a stock froyo + root that we can flash.
why use telenav? I am not familiar.. just curious why not use google nav?
autostarts, just b/c you have it set to not start an app on boot, does not mean when you click the icon to open it will cause an issue. Really not that big of a deal. If you notice an issue, just set the app back to enabled.
Do not use a task killer.
The thread I linked has plenty of information for what you can remove from the phone, with instructions.... same for the barnacle tether app. If you want, download Wireless Tether, google it... the source code is on google.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
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I appreciate all your answers. I don't mean to say that anyone else can't answer as well. I am still unclear on several things I asked and would appreciate if someone could chime in, at least about the exact procedures for using autostart and the reasoning behind not using the task killer. I am new to Android, but I am pretty good at computers, including building them. So when I am learning about doing this or that, I would like to know about the reasoning behind that. I am sure that all of the questions I ask here I can find out on my own, but I was hoping that I could utilize the purpose of the forum and learn something from the veterans rather than reinventing the wheel myself.
I am using Telenav because I have a one month free trial. I discovered Google Nav just yesterday. I just want to compare them myself, even though it is unlikely I will pay $10/month in either case. But remember that Telenav is just one of the applications causing issues.
Thanks for all the answers. Please don't feel pressured to answer all the things I might ask. If I don't get enough answers, I'll just do a quick thread search and if that's not fruitful, I'll create a specific thread for autostart usage.
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till samsung release the source code so no froyo.and the rumor is that they won't release the source code.
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Isn't this illegal? I thought the whole point of Android was opensource and under the GPL License, they are required to post the full source code, right? Or I could just be way off base here.
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glad the root went well for you. I am wanting to root my phone too, but not sure which root method is easiest and best.
Which root method did you use?
I had a mytouch rooted before the Vibrant, but they are way different and I dont want to screw up
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I used the first procedure recommended in the sticky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7150299&postcount=1
I am not sure why it said that you have to restart several times. Here are some clarifications on the steps there that I think were not too clear:
1. When you connect your device, you need to pull down the message area, click on the USB, and only then you will see the option to MOUNT your phone. I had to experiment to figure this out.
2. The guide doesn't say, but if your USB debugging mode is on, I would disable it, just to be safe: Settings (this is that leftmost button on your phone when you're at your desktop)-->Applications-->Development-->USB debugging (uncheck). This might be unnecessary, but I did it just to be safe.
3. When you are copying the Update.zip file into your phone, make sure you check the size of the folder. It must be your internal storage - it will be 12GB+ and will have your system files. If you have trouble identifying this, simply remove your SD card!
4. When you are restarting the phone, make sure you press the volume button in the MIDDLE so that it is entirely pressed (up and down). While holding it, press and hold the power. Do not let go of the volume button until your enter the recovery menu.
Anyway, that's what I did and rooted from the first time without any issues.
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Isn't this illegal? I thought the whole point of Android was opensource and under the GPL License, they are required to post the full source code, right? Or I could just be way off base here.
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It could be that Samsung has modified the code for their own phones making the code their property, while the "regular" 2.2 (unmodified) would be available to everyone. I could be wrong, but I think this how it would work.
Excelsius said:
I used the first procedure recommended in the sticky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7150299&postcount=1
I am not sure why it said that you have to restart several times. Here are some clarifications on the steps there that I think were not too clear:
1. When you connect your device, you need to pull down the message area, click on the USB, and only then you will see the option to MOUNT your phone. I had to experiment to figure this out.
2. The guide doesn't say, but if your USB debugging mode is on, I would disable it, just to be safe: Settings (this is that leftmost button on your phone when you're at your desktop)-->Applications-->Development-->USB debugging (uncheck). This might be unnecessary, but I did it just to be safe.
3. When you are copying the Update.zip file into your phone, make sure you check the size of the folder. It must be your internal storage - it will be 12GB+ and will have your system files. If you have trouble identifying this, simply remove your SD card!
4. When you are restarting the phone, make sure you press the volume button in the MIDDLE so that it is entirely pressed (up and down). While holding it, press and hold the power. Do not let go of the volume button until your enter the recovery menu.
Anyway, that's what I did and rooted from the first time without any issues.
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thanks
10 char
Hi I am new to the world of acers and the iconia as I previously used all apple products. I have heard about rooting your device but there were a few things I wanted to know before I do so. Firstly is it difficult to do so? Is there much risk involved for example could I possibly ruin the device if I do something wrong? and the other thing I wanted to know about rooting a device is what are the pros and cons of doing so?
Thank you in advance for your contribution.
Welcome to the Android world. Addressing your questions:
Firstly is it difficult to do so? no, you just browse on this forum for the iconiaroot file. It is as easy as run the app, wait a few minutes (reboot included), and done, you are rooted.
Is there much risk involved for example could I possibly ruin the device if I do something wrong? I don't think so, never heard of anybody bricking their a500 just by rooting it (I could be wrong, but chances are low).
and the other thing I wanted to know about rooting a device is what are the pros and cons of doing so? you can have more control over the OS and do some modding that would not be able without root, for instance NTFS support (you are no longer limited to the 4GB file of FAT format), on the cons, Acer might not like it and would refuse to apply the warranty, but you can always unroot, leaving no traces so they won't know (basically I think there are no cons)
First off rooting your tablet only means you have changed the level of your user access to root. This alone won't cause a device to become bricked. It only allows you the user access to files that if changed without caution can brick a device. Like they say "guns don't kill people, people kill people". Translation "rooting doesn't brick tablets people brick tablets". The process is safe and won't hurt the device. The reasons for keeping users from this sort of access is for the manufacturer to protect themselves from an endless supply of returned goods that are broken from user error.
As for gains you'll be suprised at the customization available especially compared to apple products. Go slow and learn.
sent from the drivers seat, yup texting while driving
Netflix! You can patch your tab so that the apps finally work
You can also get SetCpu which can save you battery life.
you can use drivemount to mount drives that are not FAT32 formated (NTFS)
you also can change your wifi so it allows you to access ad-hoc wifi networks.
or you can use adblock to block ads on your device.
you can install a custom recovery and do backups and install custom roms...
i definately would root it!
I agree
There is no danger in rooting your device - nor is any technical skill required, it is literally as easy as changing one check box in settings, downloading a program and clicking "root". This opens the door to do lots of fun things with your Iconia. Unrooting the device in case you wanted to return it is also just as easy, click one button and you are set.
As other posters have pointed out - having root access cannot brick your device in itself. Having root access and using it to modify a part of the system and not doing it right can result in a unbootable tab.
Welcome to the world of Android and grants on your new Iconia. There are plenty of great things you can do after gaining root, just remember to take things one step at a time and ask questions if you are unsure *before* proceeding with any modification of your tablet.
In my experience, I was rather new with Android when I got my Iconia as well. Just take it slow, and when in doubt read the instructions once more and ask questions
Thanar said:
Netflix! You can patch your tab so that the apps finally work
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+1 to that - Netflix was the only reason I rooted.
Pro: Netflix
Con: you shouldn't need root access just to access netflix
I have spent about 6 hours crawling through here looking for help, and found a few bits that were helpful, but nothing that solved my problem.
My Fire is just slow as hell and I can't stand it. The list of "problems" is way too long. I want to put CM7 on it so I can have a useful tablet rather than the POS that this thing is in stock form.
I would love a step by step guide for people (Me) who have zero computer skills. I managed to root my HTC EVO, which wasn't too hard, but the Fire is escaping me. I have done everything I have read I needed to do to root this but I can't figure out what is going on.
I have downloaded the Android SDK tools, and successfully put in whatever the alphabet soup is that you all refer to (ADB). I don't even know what ADB means, but I got the SDK manager and all the tools installed.
I downloaded the Kindle Fire Utility 0.9.1 and told my Fire to accept outside apps.
I followed the destructions and tried to install permanent root with superuser according to the Fire Utility, but it keeps saying ABD Status: Online ABD Rooted: NO.
I found a link to something that would check to see if it was actually rooted, but the app does not open in the Fire and does nothing on my computer.
When I tell the Utility to install permanent root with superuser I get this message repeatedly: "They system cannot find the path specified." I get that whenever I try to use the utility to do anything at all, yet it keeps telling me that whatever was installed successfully.
It says I have superuser access (in the utility) yet there is nothing different in the Fire. I can't use Titanium backup, I can't do anything "new" that I couldn't do before.
My Fire experience is pretty poor so far. Google searches are horrible, I try to type in a word and before I get to the second letter it brings up the most common Google search that was run using the first letter... and fills in the rest. I have to delete it all and start again. Often times I try to edit an email and it won't let me click anywhere I want. I try to open a link to a website and half the time it doesn't work. I can't go "Back" until I click the button 4-5 times. It is just stupid. This "tablet" is nothing more than a paperweight and I am pretty honked that Amazon screwed the pooch on this. Top it off with a SUPER slow internet browser that was touted as the greatest thing ever...
Anyway, sorry for the rant, I am just frustrated at this $200 piece of plastic crap. I need help (With the tablet, not mental help).
Where do I begin? Please understand that acronyms mean nothing to me since I am new at this... I need step by step directions for a beginner! I need to get from Kindle Fire POS operating system to CM7 or something like what every other Android runs so I can actually enjoy my tablet rather than get pissed off at it!
DavidV95 said:
I have spent about 6 hours crawling through here looking for help, and found a few bits that were helpful, but nothing that solved my problem.
My Fire is just slow as hell and I can't stand it. The list of "problems" is way too long. I want to put CM7 on it so I can have a useful tablet rather than the POS that this thing is in stock form.
I would love a step by step guide for people (Me) who have zero computer skills. I managed to root my HTC EVO, which wasn't too hard, but the Fire is escaping me. I have done everything I have read I needed to do to root this but I can't figure out what is going on.
I have downloaded the Android SDK tools, and successfully put in whatever the alphabet soup is that you all refer to (ADB). I don't even know what ADB means, but I got the SDK manager and all the tools installed.
I downloaded the Kindle Fire Utility 0.9.1 and told my Fire to accept outside apps.
I followed the destructions and tried to install permanent root with superuser according to the Fire Utility, but it keeps saying ABD Status: Online ABD Rooted: NO.
I found a link to something that would check to see if it was actually rooted, but the app does not open in the Fire and does nothing on my computer.
When I tell the Utility to install permanent root with superuser I get this message repeatedly: "They system cannot find the path specified." I get that whenever I try to use the utility to do anything at all, yet it keeps telling me that whatever was installed successfully.
It says I have superuser access (in the utility) yet there is nothing different in the Fire. I can't use Titanium backup, I can't do anything "new" that I couldn't do before.
My Fire experience is pretty poor so far. Google searches are horrible, I try to type in a word and before I get to the second letter it brings up the most common Google search that was run using the first letter... and fills in the rest. I have to delete it all and start again. Often times I try to edit an email and it won't let me click anywhere I want. I try to open a link to a website and half the time it doesn't work. I can't go "Back" until I click the button 4-5 times. It is just stupid. This "tablet" is nothing more than a paperweight and I am pretty honked that Amazon screwed the pooch on this. Top it off with a SUPER slow internet browser that was touted as the greatest thing ever...
Anyway, sorry for the rant, I am just frustrated at this $200 piece of plastic crap. I need help (With the tablet, not mental help).
Where do I begin? Please understand that acronyms mean nothing to me since I am new at this... I need step by step directions for a beginner! I need to get from Kindle Fire POS operating system to CM7 or something like what every other Android runs so I can actually enjoy my tablet rather than get pissed off at it!
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Here you go this is my step by step video and trouble shooting guide to help a non experienced end-user such as yourself pull this off without a hitch... It is confirmed working and very easy to follow... If it helped please remember to hit the thanks button in that threas so that it might have the chance to get stickied for others to find easily...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417234