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I just finished my 24 hour testing of the Nexus One for my employer and figured I would give my 2 cents worth:
1. On screen keyboard: Great, especially when used in landscape. Portrait has a bit more room side to side than the G1, and it makes it easier, but I wouldn't go so far to say in protrait it is a night and day difference. Landscape truly is, and I had no problem typing long messages in landscape mode, and using portrait for quick stuff. A physical keyboard is still a better option, IMO as a keyboard lover, but the onscreen is executed very, very well.
2. Speed/Android 2.1: I have tested some of the 2.1 ports on my G1, and as nice as they are, they do not give justice at all too what 2.1 is on a Nexus One. Blanket statement, the phone is faster and 2.1 is a great advancement. A more astute observation that I wasn't expecting, websites load much, much, much faster on the Nexus One. I didn't do an actual stop watch test, but a realistic guess says sites load about twice as fast. I am on an EDGE network where I do most of my surfing when not using WiFi... when on WiFi it was more dramatic (I actually loaded 1 site faster on the Nexus One than on my computer)
3. Stability: I tried my absolute best to slow it down and make it unstable. Couldn't do it. At one point in time, I had 23 apps open, the browser had 3 windows, I had youtube running, music, and so forth. Of course, several of the apps had to "reload" the last point I was at, but with this phone "reloading" is pretty much instant. The longest it ever took was one of the web pages had to re-download the content. I found that the phone's cache held my normal use just fine without ever having to reload.
4. Fit/Finish/Style: The phone has a very solid feel too, despite being very light in weight. Fits well in the hand, comfortable being used as a phone, and I got a lot of comments on it when I was out and about testing the "wow" factor (I was asked to go to a busy restaurant/bar and see how many people asked me about it). And, as odd as this might sound, being right handed the back button being on the far left was not a big deal, and I actually liked it's placement a lot since when I used it in landscape mode it was much more comfortable hitting it, and I think this is what they had in mind when they designed in like that.
5. Battery Life: Damn! That is all you need to know, Damn! I tried, really, really hard to push this to the max and see how fast I could run it down. I had WiFi and GPS both going, music playing, and was surfing the web as quick as possible, messing around with google maps taking a look at new and interesting places, and gave up. I used 80% of the battery in those 24 hours, for about an hour I was trying my best to run it down, and for the rest a little above typical usage. Today it only went down 20% from 9AM-5PM. My G1 is usually about 60% gone over that period.
6. Conclusion: I am someone that pretty much demands a physical keyboard for me to even think about buying a phone. I am getting a Nexus One as soon as they become available through the company I work for. My manager is a BB addict, and she said as soon as we get it she is switching as well. That is a huge statement, her daily phone is a BB 9700, she texts and writes most of her emails from her phone, and the Nexus One out performed her BB 9700. She was using the google voice service to write, but she said out of all the texts and emails she wrote using it she didn't have a single typo!
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On the battery, I might not have been 100% clear in re-reading this review, and want to say some people on this board have had different results and opinions. To add another experience, my manager used the phone for 2 days and didn't have to charge it, but she didn't use it nearly as much as I did. I am also editing that part of my review, so if you read it the first day it was posted it might be a little different for clarity sakes.
As expected, from a god of the Android phones.
Thanks pjcforpres for this write up/review. Il been holding out on the Nexus one mainly because of Keyboard. Im with Tmobile and have the latest 2.1 rom. I was even considering going to Big Red for the Droid but your review seems honest and has answered a few things for me with Keyboard, Battery life and speed. I may give it a go. Thanks much!
Building on your 2nd point... I was amazed at how quickly apps installed from Market... it was practically instantaneous!
24bronco said:
Thanks pjcforpres for this write up/review. Il been holding out on the Nexus one mainly because of Keyboard. Im with Tmobile and have the latest 2.1 rom. I was even considering going to Big Red for the Droid but your review seems honest and has answered a few things for me with Keyboard, Battery life and speed. I may give it a go. Thanks much!
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I want to point out that I edited the battery review part, and added a note at the end. It didn't read as clearly as the original thought when I wrote it.
I'm a hard keyboard junkie myself, and I have to say that I'm still not as great with the N1's soft keyboard than any hard kb. I don't think they will ever quite pare up.
However, the voice input is really incredible I especially love sitting down in my car, long-pressing "search" so the voice search comes up, and saying "Navigate to burger king." The phone opens Google Maps Navigation, plots the course from my location to the nearest Burger King, and begins turn-by-turn navigation.
Nice review...this bad boy has Awesome speed & eye candy!
Good review but the battery life on the N1, as much as I love this device, is horrendous. It's absolutely terrible. But then again, I actually expected it to be so it's not a big deal. I will get the fattest battery I can when they come out. I use the phone so much that I've actually had to start charging it a third time in one day.
honestly, i'm actually faster with the soft keyboard than i was with a hard board, because i don't have to actually press anything. i've tried on other screenboards too, and this thing is like butter compared to those. a hard keyboard was my sticking point for a long time, but no longer. not after this
You know, I kind of experienced the opposite in terms of battery. My G1 would last all day, with fairly regular usage and by the time I went to bed I was around 70% left battery.
I've had my N1 off the charger since around noon today, and its at 50%. so 24 hours at that rate would completely drain my battery. Overnight also, I left it unplugged, it was at 72% when I wend to bed (around midnight) and 60% when I got up (8:30a), so 8 hours standby consumed 12% battery. My n1 is also currently set to 2G only, as I flip/flop 2g/3g at my house (my g1 did the same here since they put up the new 3g tower).
I left mine off the charger overnight, and had 2% consumption. Not sure what to tell you other than check how often you have your stuff syncing, and what all you have in your background. I don't like task killers much, but I do use them to kill any media apps since even with those chilling in the background waiting for you to come back, they like to drain battery.
So far, on the 3 devices being used in our test group, we have all experienced the same great battery life I reported. Like I already said, my manager made it 2 days on 1 full charge (I think that was officially 44 hours). A couple others in the group experiened the same thing. The data specialist, who is a very heavy user (near constant actually) made it through the work day. That is the first time a smart phone has done that, including BB's.
We all have different ideas of what normal usage is and what heavy use is. Being that I sell cell phones for a living, and gotta fill out fun forms that define those for me, I would like to think my idea is closer to average than some of you guys. Let me put it like this, I guess, for me constant use does not =heavy use. Constant use=Constant use. Heavy use= an average of using the phone 30 minutes out of every hour. Average use=Using the phone less than 15 minutes an hour. As well, we factor in what that usage is, is it data? Is it phone calls? Is it media player?
There are tons of factors that can cause one man to think great battery life and another horrible. I tried my best to write my review and assesment based on my personal experience on a criteria that is based off 4 years of selling cell phones as well the guide sheet made up by 25 people with over 150 years combined experience in the cell phone world.
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I left mine off the charger overnight, and had 2% consumption. Not sure what to tell you other than check how often you have your stuff syncing, and what all you have in your background. I don't like task killers much, but I do use them to kill any media apps since even with those chilling in the background waiting for you to come back, they like to drain battery.
So far, on the 3 devices being used in our test group, we have all experienced the same great battery life I reported. Like I already said, my manager made it 2 days on 1 full charge (I think that was officially 44 hours). A couple others in the group experiened the same thing. The data specialist, who is a very heavy user (near constant actually) made it through the work day. That is the first time a smart phone has done that, including BB's.
We all have different ideas of what normal usage is and what heavy use is. Being that I sell cell phones for a living, and gotta fill out fun forms that define those for me, I would like to think my idea is closer to average than some of you guys. Let me put it like this, I guess, for me constant use does not =heavy use. Constant use=Constant use. Heavy use= an average of using the phone 30 minutes out of every hour. Average use=Using the phone less than 15 minutes an hour. As well, we factor in what that usage is, is it data? Is it phone calls? Is it media player?
There are tons of factors that can cause one man to think great battery life and another horrible. I tried my best to write my review and assesment based on my personal experience on a criteria that is based off 4 years of selling cell phones as well the guide sheet made up by 25 people with over 150 years combined experience in the cell phone world.
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Actually, I think the battery life is pretty good considering the what the phone does. It's just horrible compared to, for example, a non-smartphone. I'm not sure what people mean by "heavy use" but when I say heavy use, I mean my phone is on and I'm playing with it for five hours straight browsing, using data, video, music, games, apps and a combination of those. I rarely talk on the phone. Messaging, browser, music and apps are where I use my phone most. Basically, I use every feature for hours at a time. I live on my phone (for play and work so it's not as bad as it sounds). So if heavy use for others is 30 minutes out of every hour like you said, my heave use is many hours of constant use. But overall, the N1 is a wonderful device and it would take a lot for me to give it up (N2? LOL).
We/ I would call that constant or near constant use. Yes, heay usage might and is what most would call that, but when evaluating battery life on a more concise basis we would call that constant use for clarity and consitancy in the evaluation process from phone to phone and person to person.
I do agree, as well, that many people seem to compare a smart phone to a dumb phone too easily and readily for what their expectations are concerning battery life. IIRC, I can't see it as I write this, in my original post I said for a phone that does as much as the Nexus One, the battery life is great. And of course you say the same!
In my experiences, the Nexus One is just below a BB for battery usage, way better than WinMo, and an improvement over the G1(my personal phone right now). When you consider that it can do way more than a BB, faster, and better, the battery life becomes IMO better than a BB's. As the data specialist found, he actually had better battery life with the Nexus One than he did with his BB 8900 and 9700.
My first 24 have been like a love story
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My first 24 have been like a love story
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Yeah, it was so hard for me to give the phone to the next tester, it was like breaking up with my first love! I am actually thinking about ordering an unlocked off Google because I miss it so much already!
Although my N1's battery is clearly better than my G1's, it's still not nearly what some people are reporting. On weekdays, I get up about 7am and take my phone off the charger. On my way to take my daughter to school, and then on my way to work, I stream Pandora the entire way, on 3G (about 60 minutes in traffic). I get to work by about 8:30, and my battery at that point is at about 80-85%. My G1 would be about 65-70% at that same point. By the time I get home (about 3pm), streaming music all the way home (about 40 minutes). Battery life by the time I get home is around 45-50%, possibly less, depending on if I did much texting at work. By the time I go to bed (9 or 10pm) I'm at around 20%.
That's pretty much an average day. Only once have I completely drained the battery where my phone would not turn on, and it hit that point at about 8:30pm that day. This was not possible on my G1. I would have to charge it at work in order to do all of the above, and I'd still be in the 10-20% range by 10pm.
I think the biggest difference isn't the hardware 'or' the software, but mostly the 1400mah battery compared to the 1000mah battery on the G1. Although, the fact that the N1 is so much faster, means I get more things done in less time, which means more time in idle, and more battery saved.
I did just notice something though... I've had my phone unplugged since 8am this morning, it's now 2am, and I'm still at 20%... can't complain
what are you guys' battery use distribution?
according to the battery use showed on the phone, the screen drains most of my batter most oftenly more than 70 percent.
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what are you guys' battery use distribution?
according to the battery use showed on the phone, the screen drains most of my batter most oftenly more than 70 percent.
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That seems to be the prevailing "peak" usage.
I read so many threads and comments complaining about "battery life"
Turning this off and that off, not using this app or that app. Dreaded enemy "wake locks". Turning brightness down and generally Not using all these great devices have to offer to squeeze out more battery life. Even to the extent of over 24 hours.
We have a phenomenal and powerful device that does a whole lot with a huge screen and a ton of great BG apps updating all kinds of information we enjoy these devices for.
MOST of all we all have the (getting rare) opportunity to swap out an inexpensive battery in less than 30 seconds be up and running for another 5-10 hours depending on our enjoyment and use.
Do people not have electricity? They cannot charge every night? They can afford a $600 phone (or $300 subsidized) and $600 plus a year for service but cannot buy a $20 battery in order to actually USE the device as designed and go through all kinds of contortions, apps, settings, and worse, anguish at running out of juice after (gasp) 8 hours?
People getting hung up on "benchmarking" and posting screen shots of phones on battery for 3 days...(of course rarely used) to squeeze and extra 30 minutes.
TURN IT OFF!! bet the battery lasts well over a month. You win!
I guess I just don't understand the "issue" with a device where batteries can be swapped out so easily.
I get maybe 10 hours normally with everything on and at minimum updating. I have infinite screen on and turn it off when I am done using it. (hate those timeouts while reading something). FB and news updates at minimum. Maps always running latitude. If its there its on BT, Screen rotation, GPS, I just don't worry about battery life as I would rather carry an extra battery in my desk at home auto or work and in my wallet than not USE the device as designed.
Personally I would never buy another phone without the ability to swap out a battery lest I would gain have to "ration" my use of such a great device which would be akin to a witnessing a gay man win a date with a single and seductive Angela Jolie . Why bother?
Am I alone here? Anyone else consider battery life as much a non issue as I do on these Samsung phones?
I'm with you on this one. Why do all of that stupid things if you can solve it with $20 battery.
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A lot of the battery life threads are related to abnormally high battery drain.
As an example, on GB I would about 1% battery per hour if the phone was idle.
When I upgraded to LPY, I was losing 2-3% per hour, and sometimes higher, because the phone was not going into deep sleep.
This might not seem much of a difference for just 1 hour, but over the course of a day, it is a huge difference.
Now I'm on LPF, my battery drain is about the same, or lower than GB when idle.
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A lot of the battery life threads are related to abnormally high battery drain.
As an example, on GB I would about 1% battery per hour if the phone was idle.
When I upgraded to LPY, I was losing 2-3% per hour, and sometimes higher, because the phone was not going into deep sleep.
This might not seem much of a difference for just 1 hour, but over the course of a day, it is a huge difference.
Now I'm on LPF, my battery drain is about the same, or lower than GB when idle.
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I guess "abnormally high" is debatable. For me it would be a 80% battery crapping out before then end of a 2 hour movie.
A day is only 24 hours long and I assume people will sleep for 6-8 hours so Even a 5% drain per hour would mean more than 16 hours of standby with 20% remaining!! How can that be an issue? I doubt my phone "deep sleeps" I have BG apps running all the time with notifications. One extra battery solves all issues. No need for special apps, tweaking this and that, flashing this and that simply for battery life.
If people sleep 6-8 hours during a 24 hour period they can easily and consistently charge their batteries. A 3% drain per hour would not be an issue. If we watch movies and play games we already know the battery will drain within a few hours. Pop in another battery and brand new again.
You are assuming that people are always near a power source.
I am normally near a power source. I am either at work and charge via USB or in my car or at home.
The issue is the past 3 days I was out and about (malls, hotels, restaurants and so on) and was not near a power source for more than 10 minutes. My battery died in about 4 hours of usage. Mostly checking email, instagram and facebook.
I keep my brightness at full strength by the way (unless if the lights are off in bed).
Yes, so battery is an issue.
Not everyone is constantly near a power source.
So you think if I put my fully charged Note into Airplane mode when I go to sleep and wake up in the morning just to find out to my surprise that I lost 32 % of battery life in six hours is normal? In airplane mode? On official update via Kies, never rooted, never anything custom? That is normal to you? Wow, you are either stupid or work for Samsung. If you work for Samsung can you help me to get my GB battery life back? I have already spend good money for the phone, I am not willing to spend a dime extra for another battery on 6 months old phone.
If your phone is working as intended, battery life issues are not really an issue.
It basically means your phone sleeps when its supposed to.
However, some devices never go into deep sleep due to some issue with kernel or a rogue app. Thats where the battery problem comes in.
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So you think if I put my fully charged Note into Airplane mode when I go to sleep and wake up in the morning just to find out to my surprise that I lost 32 % of battery life in six hours is normal? In airplane mode? On official update via Kies, never rooted, never anything custom? That is normal to you? Wow, you are either stupid or work for Samsung. If you work for Samsung can you help me to get my GB battery life back? I have already spend good money for the phone, I am not willing to spend a dime extra for another battery on 6 months old phone.
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Thats not normal.
I turn off data and wifi on my Note when I go to sleep (6 hours also) and I loose about 5 to 10 %.
This is with telephone signal only. No data or wifi.
to the post #7. So how come it didn't happened in stock GB previously? In GB I lost about 1 % overnight when in airplane mode. Reliability of batteries on this phone is a big deal, unfortunatelly.
Battery is always an issue. Nobody likes running to the charger every 3 hours. They want to charge and preferably when we are not using it, when we sleep.
So yes, it does not comply with expectatoin with continuous use. So yes its an issue. At least for me
Next to this having the enduser juggle with what wakelocks are or other battery eaters are dont help much. That counts for all smart phones.
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There is also the issue about well behaved v badly behaved apps. I've installed apps and my battery life has plummeted, normally due to the app writing tons to the system log as it doesn't run well on my device.
In that situation it's nice to know the phone generally isn't sucking masses of juice itself so you aren't caught out and about with no battery left.
As the OP says, I guess I could carry a spare battery, but I could also carry a spare phone (my old Nokia 6310 used to last weeks on a charge) - and I don't want to do either. I want the battery on my phone to survive general use and still be able to be used for calls if needed. For me, it's not about €20\$20 for a battery, it's about the hassle of having to carry another thing around with me all the time and make sure I'd remembered to charge the damned thing when I actually needed it.
Personally, I use my phone like a tablet and as a phone and generally get 1-2 days out of it no problem. That said there are definitely some battery drain issues with the official German ICS build and it's worth protecting yourself against unnecessary drain if possible.
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, I am not willing to spend a dime extra for another battery on 6 months old phone.
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And there is your only problem.........it's not "airplane" mode while you sleep. You could charge while you sleep. Again problem solved.
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CorruptedSanity said:
You are assuming that people are always near a power source.
I am normally near a power source. I am either at work and charge via USB or in my car or at home.
The issue is the past 3 days I was out and about (malls, hotels, restaurants and so on) and was not near a power source for more than 10 minutes. My battery died in about 4 hours of usage. Mostly checking email, instagram and facebook.
I keep my brightness at full strength by the way (unless if the lights are off in bed).
Yes, so battery is an issue.
Not everyone is constantly near a power source.
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I happen to believe it's asking far to much of a device once used only as a phone and now as a notebook computer, music player, movie player,gaming platform, big screen, GPS, on and on to be able to operate without expecting batteries to wither within hours. I bought extra batteries so I can use all the functions without worry. There are performance issues people strive to enhance. I get that. But battery life is counter productive to enhancing performance.
I cannot understand all the teeth gnashing about battery life with all the options available Especially those of us who are power users. . not the least being charging while asleep. So many post battery loss while sleeping...... That's what chargers are for.
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I am assuming people sleep near a power source. Is that a reach?
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Sometimes. I go to music festivals where we camp for up to 5 days at a time. I may have access to a powerpoint for 30 mins a day, but not always. I carry spare batteries, but that doesn't mean I want my phone sucking my battery like crazy.
When travelling around, I use my phone more often than normal (gmaps etc)... If I'm away from the hotel for 12 hours +, again, having decent battery life is not an unreasonable thing to want.
My Desire HD (yes I know, smaller screen, slower cpu), could pull over 30 hours out of a battery with conservative use (without turning the radios off).
I still wouldn't give up my Note, but having to recharge each time I get home is pretty annoying.
Ha, ha!
I find it funny that a post complaining about people complaining about battery life ends up with people's comments complaining about battery life!
Seriously, though, when those rogue apps steal my precious battery, I get annoyed. I paid for the damned thing, and I want to use it when I want to use it, not find it is half-drained.
I use it pretty normally, and charge it every day (new batteries are cheap). I carry a spare in my wallet too.
I sometimes spend four hours a working day on the phone, BT all day, plus an hour or two screen and WiFi on. If I have managed it OK (by killing battery stealing apps) I get about 50 to 60% left. If not, I can be down to 30% after that. That may not be enough for the rest of the day.
Why should it be a problem that people like to get a full day from one battery? It is not difficult, although you do need Root. Shame on Samsung that it is necessary, when it is clearly possible.
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I find it funny that a post complaining about people complaining about battery life ends up with people's comments complaining about battery life!
Seriously, though, when those rogue apps steal my precious battery, I get annoyed. I paid for the damned thing, and I want to use it when I want to use it, not find it is half-drained.
I use it pretty normally, and charge it every day (new batteries are cheap). I carry a spare in my wallet too.
I sometimes spend four hours a working day on the phone, BT all day, plus an hour or two screen and WiFi on. If I have managed it OK (by killing battery stealing apps) I get about 50 to 60% left. If not, I can be down to 30% after that. That may not be enough for the rest of the day.
Why should it be a problem that people like to get a full day from one battery? It is not difficult, although you do need Root. Shame on Samsung that it is necessary, when it is clearly possible.
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Lol I was seeking those who don't have issues. And was hoping for a discussion on how they deal with battery life without rationing or tweaking....not more complainers
It's a problem of unrealistic expectations.IMO When you look at the device it self and what it's capable of.
Yeah Samsung could have put a larger battery and fatter back on the phone but people would complain about that. Those solutions are available for power users as well. I think we are lucky to have a device where we have options to solve a basic issue other than not using functions. Apple and HTC do not have the same luxury.
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I'm a light user with the occasional call and sms and my battery last ~6 days. Phone is 3 moths old. However, I find that my battery usage is very dependent on signal strength. I usually get 4 bars and when that happens battery drains like 10% a day and when it is down to 1-2 bars then it can be 3 times that. I guess I'm fortunate that I get 4 bars most of the time in the office and at home.
I have a battery monitor widget installed and I must say that it makes me paranoid of using the phone and causing high drain. May uninstall it soon and use the phone as it should be used.
My expectations are pretty much met when it comes to battery life of the Galaxy Note. It lasts a whole working day. That's all I need. And for exceptional situations when I don't have access to a socket I have got a spare battery.
It's clear that the Note drains the battery really fast if it's in use. Just look at the screen . I also agree that it's annoying if the battery is empty after only 1/2 working day. But some people really have to blame themselves. If you don't turn off Wifi, Bluetooth and GPS when they are not needed it's no miracle that the battery is empty in no time. If you constantly check Facebook, Twitter and the like you have to accept that battery life will be significantly shorter.
For me the worst things are Bluetooth headsets. Not only is it annoying to have one more device that has to be charged but it also constantly drains the battery of the phone. Ok those wireless headsets are comfortable but you pay for it by faster battery drain.
hi guys, cool down.
the different opinions about the battery issue are resulting from the different way of using the phone along with the life style.
Some may need a bckp bat. Some can make sure they are always close to a power source ( if people spend a substantial part of the day in cars f.e.) Some even need an additional external power pack, as they are not close to power outlets all day.
That all makes sense to me but doesn't make me switching off all the nice features of that great phone. It is not an a piece for exhibition in a shopping window, it is for my personal use for business and/or leisure activities. It even connects me via video when I am far away from home, it connects me to the social networks and it let me professionally do my work and up or download all info I need from my corporation. I can log in via VPN to my workplace and edit documents by collaborating with colleagues through the cloud. It shows me the way through the GPS, if I need.
It entertains me in many different way if I want, It helps me to find a good restaurant.
I do not longer use a notebook computer or a tablet.
My Notebook computer could work hardly 2 hours with the same usage like my SGN.
So, I accept that this racing machine does need after some laps a pit stop for filling up the power.
Just love that tool, just love it
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My expectations are pretty much met when it comes to battery life of the Galaxy Note. It lasts a whole working day. That's all I need. And for exceptional situations when I don't have access to a socket I have got a spare battery.
It's clear that the Note drains the battery really fast if it's in use. Just look at the screen . I also agree that it's annoying if the battery is empty after only 1/2 working day. But some people really have to blame themselves. If you don't turn off Wifi, Bluetooth and GPS when they are not needed it's no miracle that the battery is empty in no time. If you constantly check Facebook, Twitter and the like you have to accept that battery life will be significantly shorter.
For me the worst things are Bluetooth headsets. Not only is it annoying to have one more device that has to be charged but it also constantly drains the battery of the phone. Ok those wireless headsets are comfortable but you pay for it by faster battery drain.
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These are the kinds of responses I was hoping people people would post rather than more whining about battery life. there are plenty of those threads already.
I was hoping for a POSITIVE thread people could read to calm their perceived issues with battery life. BTW I don't use BT head sets for Music. Yes another thing to deal with charging where you cannot simpy replace a battery. I prefer the far better quality wired earbuds.
Hello,
I currently own a LG Optimus 4X HD and I really do not really like the battery life, which is quite bad for me (Around 2h SOT, 3 if I'm lucky). I'm on the market for a new phone and I've been looking at the S5, HTC One M8 and Note 3.
I already looked at the main battery life thread, but what should I expect with medium usage throughout the day and little to no social app use and also with stock firmware, only root, Greenify and disabling the bloatware?
How do you think this phone compares with the other two listed? I am leaning towards this phone mainly because of the IP67 protection it offers.
I would be buying this phone in Europe.
Seems a rather pointless exercise, given that you've read the battery use thread. Medium usage is a vague description. Battery life is highly dependent on what apps you use as well as how long they are used. And it only takes one or two bad apps e.g. Tunein or Skype to put a big dent in your battery life.
One person will tell you that his medium usage takes him 14 hours. And another will say that medium use sees the battery run out in 8 hours. To answer your question something like 10 - 11 hours total, including 6 - 8 hours of screen time. But the error margin on any such guess..
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Thanks. Yes I realize that it's hard to predict the battery life, but that would surely last me long enough. Also, is Skype really a battery hog? I never heard about that one.
Then you don't read the forum much as there have been a lot of threads about Skype. Presumably because Skype is constantly polling the camera and connection status. The problems may or may not have been resolved in recent updates, but a lot of people have had Skype put a big dent in their batteries recently.
e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660470
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i have owned the m8 and now have the s5
I would say battery wise for me they were both on par with each other and both would last me the day with medium to heavy use (streaming tv, watching the odd youtube video etc)
The thing i would say is that with the s5 you do have the option to go for a larger battery not that i have done so myself yet as have not had the need...all i ask is that it gets me to the end of the day having done whatever i needed it to do.
If your not really an app intensive user then it will easily get you through the day and beyond...assuming your in a reasonable signal area. I have personally found that the biggest drain on any phone ive had has often been down to having poor or weak signal in the area i have been in.
Many people are getting the Turbo for the battery life it should be getting, and are disappointed with real world results. Personally, I have been super happy. Coming from an iPhone 5S, I am getting much better battery life while in use, but have noticed my idle usage a bit worse. I knew that would happen, Android is notorious for poor idle battery life, especially with out-of-the-box configuration, and initial release firmware for a new phone, let alone initial release firmware for a new chipset / radio / screen combo.
So, like I had done with every Android phone I have owned (I started with Android on a TyTN II, then HTC G1, then Nexus 1, then HTC G2, and so forth)... I setup my Turbo to match my actual usage needs, privacy desires, and so forth. A few items of note that we could all benefit from are the following:
1) Disable unused / unwanted apps. I could probably be more aggressive than I was, but I feel fine enough. (see attached screen captures)
2) Use WiFi over cellular data when possible.
3) Auto screen brightness.
4) Turn off GPS, and even better, turn off location all together.
5) Turn off bluetooth when not in use.
6) The battery needs to go through ~1 week of charge cycles to fully calibrate and settle in.
7) Keep in mind, the more features you use (ie Moto Voice, location aware services, etc) the more battery used.
I use Moto Display, but do not use Moto Voice or Google Now. I have 2 emails syncing, and get ~100 emails a day that I am notified about. Plenty of texts, very few phone calls. Facebook, Facebook messenger, Google+, and I think that is it for apps that update / stay active when not in use.
I have had no problem getting 2 days of use out of my Turbo. Take it off the charger morning of day 1, use it, go to sleep, use it for another, and toss it on the charger when I go to bed. I average about 3-4 hours screen on time each day, mostly spent responding to texts, surfing the web, facebook, google +, and taking pictures of neat stuff I see and think I can use in a web design.
I didn't screen capture it, but last night when I put my Turbo on the charger I still had 24% left, with just over 6 hours of SOT, and nearly 38 hours on battery. Now, I sold cellphones for 6 years, and would consider myself a little above average in my usage based on my personal experience and observations. I would classify most of the folk on here as heavy users.
For me, this phone is about giving us a power house of a device, with a battery to match. I didn't buy into the marketing claims. My expectation was enough battery to get me through a full day. So far, the phone has exceeded my expectations by two fold.
I fully expect future updates to improve battery life even more, especially as Motorola improves their firmware for the 805 chipset, QHD displays, and the new radio chip. As well, KitKat has never been very good at handling idle background apps, so Lollipop should bring a pretty big boost in those regards as well (although, I am only seeing .5% idle drain an hour over night, which is not great, but is better than many others I have seen).
In conclusion, for those still reading, the battery life is solid in my experience. With a few setup tweaks, it is the best I have ever experienced on a smartphone since the old school Blackberry days.
I get near 2 days with having the brightness in the negatives with lux. I almost never use GPS or Bluetooth. I also turn off any data usage when I don't need it (4g/WiFi). I know people may say something like "I shouldn't have to turn brightness down into the negatives ". Well, ya don't have to if you don't want excellent battery life and try not to believe these near ridiculous claims.
I get less than one day and I'm actually using the phone and features rather than gimp my phone so I can show off my epenis on XDA. I just charge at night, while driving or drop on a charging pad if needed. Doesn't bother me and I can use every feature I want. Love it.
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I get less than one day and I'm actually using the phone and features rather than gimp my phone so I can show off my epenis on XDA. I just charge at night, while driving or drop on a charging pad if needed. Doesn't bother me and I can use every feature I want. Love it.
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I use my phone and the features that I actually want to and care to use. Just because a phone can do something, doesn't mean you have to do that. My laptop can edit videos super crazy awesome, but I don't. So if I don't care to use Moto Voice, Google Now, and other features, that is my choice, and is not gimping the phone.
I don't see why you felt the need to try and show off your epenis by being a prick, but congratulations on lacking basic reading comprehension, and having a lot of pointless anger.
Guess next time I decide to share my personal experience, and tid-bits of advice, I will run it by you first to make sure it doesn't offend you.
That's fine but the point is with everything you've turned off I don't understand the reason to get it at all. Also just curious you really have no ability to charge it in less than 48 hours? I don't get the fascination with battery life its like a game.
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That's fine but the point is with everything you've turned off I don't understand the reason to get it at all. Also just curious you really have no ability to charge it in less than 48 hours? I don't get the fascination with battery life its like a game.
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I removed the apps I don't / won't ever use... do you plan on using the Verizon Navigator? If not, why wouldn't you disable it? I turned off services I rarely use, such as GPS and location services (which if I do use maps to navigate to a new place, I can turn it back on with one tap on the power control widget).
I don't get a phone because it gives me a bunch of new random features to use, even though they do nothing for me. I get a phone that is powerful enough to do the same stuff as my laptop when it comes to managing 5 servers, running a business that involves a ton of email communication, and marketing that business with social media. I use plenty of features of the phone, probably more than you do, I just don't waste my time using stuff that doesn't make me more efficient.
To answer your question, I have access to a charger pretty much 24/7, most people do to. I don't get why you can't understand that some people choose not to charge their phone, just for the sake of charging it. I toss it on the charger when it needs it.
Here's something that has helped a lot with Moto Display: unchecking the quiet mode on the Sleep settings, checking the "turn off display" and setting the time for sleep mode to be 12:01am-12:00am, essentially setting it to be all day. This means the screen won't pulse every few seconds, but you can still use the wave motion and proximity sensor to show the Moto Display!
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I removed the apps I don't / won't ever use... do you plan on using the Verizon Navigator? If not, why wouldn't you disable it? I turned off services I rarely use, such as GPS and location services (which if I do use maps to navigate to a new place, I can turn it back on with one tap on the power control widget).
I don't get a phone because it gives me a bunch of new random features to use, even though they do nothing for me. I get a phone that is powerful enough to do the same stuff as my laptop when it comes to managing 5 servers, running a business that involves a ton of email communication, and marketing that business with social media. I use plenty of features of the phone, probably more than you do, I just don't waste my time using stuff that doesn't make me more efficient.
To answer your question, I have access to a charger pretty much 24/7, most people do to. I don't get why you can't understand that some people choose not to charge their phone, just for the sake of charging it. I toss it on the charger when it needs it.
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That's all I'm saying. You could charge the phone if you wanted but you choose not to. I'm guessing you wait until your car is running on fumes before filling it up or do you keep a gas tank in your trunk. [emoji3]
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That's all I'm saying. You could charge the phone if you wanted but you choose not to. I'm guessing you wait until your car is running on fumes before filling it up or do you keep a gas tank in your trunk. [emoji3]
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Actually, I try to make sure I always have at least half a tank of gas. Most vehicles have an in-tank fuel pump, which run best and last the longest when fully immersed in fuel, which typically is ~35-45% full tank.
I used to be obsessed with SOT and battery life. The **** I had to turn off to get my battery life to match those on XDA was insane. Now I don't care. I use my phone to the max and at most I have to charge it nightly. Otherwise it lasts me through part of the next day. LG G2 btw.
Either way, do as you please. It is your phone. And if battery life is key for you all the more power!
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Many people are getting the Turbo for the battery life it should be getting, and are disappointed with real world results. Personally, I have been super happy. Coming from an iPhone 5S, I am getting much better battery life while in use, but have noticed my idle usage a bit worse. I knew that would happen, Android is notorious for poor idle battery life, especially with out-of-the-box configuration, and initial release firmware for a new phone, let alone initial release firmware for a new chipset / radio / screen combo.
So, like I had done with every Android phone I have owned (I started with Android on a TyTN II, then HTC G1, then Nexus 1, then HTC G2, and so forth)... I setup my Turbo to match my actual usage needs, privacy desires, and so forth. A few items of note that we could all benefit from are the following:
1) Disable unused / unwanted apps. I could probably be more aggressive than I was, but I feel fine enough. (see attached screen captures)
2) Use WiFi over cellular data when possible.
3) Auto screen brightness.
4) Turn off GPS, and even better, turn off location all together.
5) Turn off bluetooth when not in use.
6) The battery needs to go through ~1 week of charge cycles to fully calibrate and settle in.
7) Keep in mind, the more features you use (ie Moto Voice, location aware services, etc) the more battery used.
I use Moto Display, but do not use Moto Voice or Google Now. I have 2 emails syncing, and get ~100 emails a day that I am notified about. Plenty of texts, very few phone calls. Facebook, Facebook messenger, Google+, and I think that is it for apps that update / stay active when not in use.
I have had no problem getting 2 days of use out of my Turbo. Take it off the charger morning of day 1, use it, go to sleep, use it for another, and toss it on the charger when I go to bed. I average about 3-4 hours screen on time each day, mostly spent responding to texts, surfing the web, facebook, google +, and taking pictures of neat stuff I see and think I can use in a web design.
I didn't screen capture it, but last night when I put my Turbo on the charger I still had 24% left, with just over 6 hours of SOT, and nearly 38 hours on battery. Now, I sold cellphones for 6 years, and would consider myself a little above average in my usage based on my personal experience and observations. I would classify most of the folk on here as heavy users.
For me, this phone is about giving us a power house of a device, with a battery to match. I didn't buy into the marketing claims. My expectation was enough battery to get me through a full day. So far, the phone has exceeded my expectations by two fold.
I fully expect future updates to improve battery life even more, especially as Motorola improves their firmware for the 805 chipset, QHD displays, and the new radio chip. As well, KitKat has never been very good at handling idle background apps, so Lollipop should bring a pretty big boost in those regards as well (although, I am only seeing .5% idle drain an hour over night, which is not great, but is better than many others I have seen).
In conclusion, for those still reading, the battery life is solid in my experience. With a few setup tweaks, it is the best I have ever experienced on a smartphone since the old school Blackberry days.
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I have to say that I'm really pleased with your writing, I'm planning to buy this phone (Moto Maxx) next week and I have spend many hours reading through the forums about the good and bad things, among all the threads and complains.
I think that most of the things that are annoying people would be fixed easily by software, and moreover, Lollipop is ready for release for most of Moto devices and soak tests were made, but Motorola is just waiting to the global release.
I'm just a normal user, if I receive 2-3 mails by day is a lot, some chats, almost no calls and no social networks most of the time, but I'm behind the Moto suite goodies and the battery life, and I think this phone would give me that.
Thanks for sharing.
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Hi,
I recently bought the Moto X Pure Edition. Overall I am very pleased with it however there is one thing that constantly bugs me. The battery life is absolutely terrible. I'd seen no mention of this before I bought the device but having bought it, I'm realizing how terrible it is. I only get around 2-2.5 hours of screen on time. This is even worse than the moto g 2014 I owned before which i could easily get 3 hours with. Are other people having similar experiences and are there any potential solutions?
Also, can you guys suggest some custom ROMs for me with great battery life and very stable? Thanks!
Try TruPureXMM, it has the best battery life among other roms, AFAIK. Well, that's because it is based on stock. Try it out for yourself.
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Am on stock and battery life is terrible. Can hardly end with 3h max with a full charge. And am one of those that stops most of the moto actions, low brightness, no wi-fi all time etc but still its worst battery life I've seen on a mobile. I think it has to do with the big screen it has!
xxhunterxx11 said:
Try TruPureXMM, it has the best battery life among other roms, AFAIK. Well, that's because it is based on stock. Try it out for yourself.
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What changes does it have from stock?
BruceWayne54 said:
What changes does it have from stock?
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It is debloated (forgot the others lol). Check the thread to see all the information you need.
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check out frankenkernel. I get 5Hrs of SoT
I have a brand-new XT 1572 (on stock) and would not call its battery life terrible. I'm getting 5 hours continuous SoT on WiFi (not sure people are using the term "SoT" consistently - if the phone is on for 24 hours, I'd expect to get less than 5 hours SoT; same when I'm on a 4G connection, particularly a bad one). Not great, but acceptable (and not unexpected in light of XT 157x reviews).
I have a shortcut to Settings - battery on my home screen which I check frequently (while I'm in the process of getting familiar with the phone), I have OS Monitor on my home screen, and I occasionally check "running services" under "Developer Options". I use Nova Launcher which makes it very easy to force-stop an app just by long-tapping it, hitting "App info" and then stopping it.
All of this has caused me to uninstall a few power-hogging apps which I probably did not need in the first place; I also find I need to occasionally force-stop apps such as Neutron.
In an average day, from 6am-10pm of mixed WiFi/LTE usage I get about 3 hours total screen on time, and the majority of the time I have good-excellect signal strength... If I have average to poor signal strength, 2-2.5 hours SOT is normal. On WiFi with continuous usage I get 4+ hours. This is normal.
Sorry, but the battery life of this phone, especially if used in bright light or outdoors, is just not good. The display is gorgeous, but it is an unbelievable battery hog.
I have tried many ROMs and all have worse batter then stock... TruPureXMM is debloated stock but the battery life isn't much different because it's the screen that takes 80-90% of the power, no rom can change that.
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In an average day, from 6am-10pm of mixed WiFi/LTE usage I get about 3 hours total screen on time, and the majority of the time I have good-excellect signal strength... If I have average to poor signal strength, 2-2.5 hours SOT is normal. On WiFi with continuous usage I get 4+ hours. This is normal.
Sorry, but the battery life of this phone, especially if used in bright light or outdoors, is just not good. The display is gorgeous, but it is an unbelievable battery hog.
I have tried many ROMs and all have worse batter then stock... TruPureXMM is debloated stock but the battery life isn't much different because it's the screen that takes 80-90% of the power, no rom can change that.
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I don't disagree with you - I call it "acceptable", you call it "just not good". I'd stop (far) short of calling it "terrible, terrible" though - and let's face it, this is why the device sells at the price point it does - which, to me, right now, is (a) close to the limit of what I'm prepared to pay for a smartphone and (b) great value for money. I'd rather be close to a charger or battery pack (in fact, I ordered a slim battery pack when I ordered the phone) with this phone at all times than owning a different phone (in this price range) with better battery life but other challenges/compromises I need to take. This devices's predecessor (for me) was the LG G3 - same thing, except that this device actually works.
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I have tried many ROMs and all have worse batter then stock... TruPureXMM is debloated stock but the battery life isn't much different because it's the screen that takes 80-90% of the power, no rom can change that.
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I completely agree with the above. Thats main reason I havent used a custom Rom yet and still waiting for Stock 7 realease (hopefully we see it within the next 2 months) before trying a custom rom yet.
But i wanted to ask a question about the screen taking all that ℅ in the battery drain:
I remember i read somewhere in another thread an option that changes the screen resolution to FHD 1080 instead of QHD. You think that really makes the screen battery drain lighter or it doesnt matter !?
phony_user said:
I don't disagree with you - I call it "acceptable", you call it "just not good". I'd stop (far) short of calling it "terrible, terrible" though - and let's face it, this is why the device sells at the price point it does - which, to me, right now, is (a) close to the limit of what I'm prepared to pay for a smartphone and (b) great value for money. I'd rather be close to a charger or battery pack (in fact, I ordered a slim battery pack when I ordered the phone) with this phone at all times than owning a different phone (in this price range) with better battery life but other challenges/compromises I need to take. This devices's predecessor (for me) was the LG G3 - same thing, except that this device actually works.
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My prior phones were an LG G2 and an LG G4 and I was thinking that my 6 month old 2015 MXPE had good battery life. I'm not sure I have ever had a phone that lasted all day. I need to stop buying sub par phones I guess. My Pixel XL (once it gets here) will hopefully fix that.
This is from stock 6.0 - May 2016 Patches - using it on Verizon network
From GSam Battery Monitor, since August 15, 2016:
Averages Per Complete Charge -
Battery Life: 1d 5.3h (8h 29m Active)
Screen On: 3h 56m (5h 11m Max)
I pretty much just charge my phone for 45 - 50 minutes a day at work and do not leave it on the charger any longer than it has to be.
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I completely agree with the above. Thats main reason I havent used a custom Rom yet and still waiting for Stock 7 realease (hopefully we see it within the next 2 months) before trying a custom rom yet.
But i wanted to ask a question about the screen taking all that ℅ in the battery drain:
I remember i read somewhere in another thread an option that changes the screen resolution to FHD 1080 instead of QHD. You think that really makes the screen battery drain lighter or it doesnt matter !?
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If you read thread I believe that only worked on Lollipop... People who did it on Marshmallow claimed it made no difference.
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If you read thread I believe that only worked on Lollipop... People who did it on Marshmallow claimed it made no difference.
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Yea, I was trying that method on Marshmallow. No positive changes on battery life, but got negative impact on Moto Display, it was to ugly for me to use.
phony_user said:
I don't disagree with you - I call it "acceptable", you call it "just not good". I'd stop (far) short of calling it "terrible, terrible" though - and let's face it, this is why the device sells at the price point it does - which, to me, right now, is (a) close to the limit of what I'm prepared to pay for a smartphone and (b) great value for money. I'd rather be close to a charger or battery pack (in fact, I ordered a slim battery pack when I ordered the phone) with this phone at all times than owning a different phone (in this price range) with better battery life but other challenges/compromises I need to take. This devices's predecessor (for me) was the LG G3 - same thing, except that this device actually works.
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Eh, to each there own... My previous phone was a Moto G 2015, it easily got 5 hours SOT in a day with battery to spare, so to me the battery life on the X is poor, but not terrible... I also carry mini power stick for charging on the go, and a QC adapter.
acejavelin said:
In an average day, from 6am-10pm of mixed WiFi/LTE usage I get about 3 hours total screen on time, and the majority of the time I have good-excellect signal strength... If I have average to poor signal strength, 2-2.5 hours SOT is normal. On WiFi with continuous usage I get 4+ hours. This is normal.
Sorry, but the battery life of this phone, especially if used in bright light or outdoors, is just not good. The display is gorgeous, but it is an unbelievable battery hog.
I have tried many ROMs and all have worse batter then stock... TruPureXMM is debloated stock but the battery life isn't much different because it's the screen that takes 80-90% of the power, no rom can change that.
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How about frankenclark with ghostpepper?
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How about frankenclark with ghostpepper?
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What about it? Kernels, roms, etc, can't do anything about how much power the display uses, it's like trying to make a 100w light bulb use 40 watts... they can only effect other things like SOC, syncing, etc.
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What about it? Kernels, roms, etc, can't do anything about how much power the display uses, it's like trying to make a 100w light bulb use 40 watts... they can only effect other things like SOC, syncing, etc.
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I agree here. A 5.7" screen will require more power just to light up. As far as changing resolution, you are still powering a 5.7" display. You might notice some slight difference in battery (and maybe fps) when playing games, but it is really related to going a little easier on the chips.
I'm still on true pure, not even the most recent build, and I could always get a day and a half of battery use, or at least a full day with moderate use.
Hey folks, just wanted to chime in on this. I had the phone since it's release and got around 5 to 6 hours of SoT with WiFi, GPS enabled (but not while using maps lol) and brightness set to about 50%. Battery life has gotten worse with each update and now I am waiting for Android 7 and I will reset my phone after it's installed.
Btw I disable any build in app that I don't use and uninstall apps that use to much battery in the background.
Am on Telsa 03/02 Build. And the battery life is as good as Stock. 3hrs SOT on LTE with Data ON the whole time and 4hrs SOT on WiFi. All the while keeping GPS ON High Accuracy and Ambient display.
No Greenify or any other battery booster.
The performance is better than Stock and all the features working near perfectly. It's a good choice, you get to use Nougat without really compromising the battery much.
Here is the post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...ms-validus-t3561477/post71196401#post71196401
Also I have recently changed the resolution to 1080p. It doesn't increase battery life much but definitely boosts the performance.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...ing-screen-t3190234/post71194289#post71194289
All I can say is, despite the battery life being poor, you have TurboPower charger which definitely saves the day. The phone charges from 10% to 100% within half n hour.