I just finished my 24 hour testing of the Nexus One for my employer and figured I would give my 2 cents worth:
1. On screen keyboard: Great, especially when used in landscape. Portrait has a bit more room side to side than the G1, and it makes it easier, but I wouldn't go so far to say in protrait it is a night and day difference. Landscape truly is, and I had no problem typing long messages in landscape mode, and using portrait for quick stuff. A physical keyboard is still a better option, IMO as a keyboard lover, but the onscreen is executed very, very well.
2. Speed/Android 2.1: I have tested some of the 2.1 ports on my G1, and as nice as they are, they do not give justice at all too what 2.1 is on a Nexus One. Blanket statement, the phone is faster and 2.1 is a great advancement. A more astute observation that I wasn't expecting, websites load much, much, much faster on the Nexus One. I didn't do an actual stop watch test, but a realistic guess says sites load about twice as fast. I am on an EDGE network where I do most of my surfing when not using WiFi... when on WiFi it was more dramatic (I actually loaded 1 site faster on the Nexus One than on my computer)
3. Stability: I tried my absolute best to slow it down and make it unstable. Couldn't do it. At one point in time, I had 23 apps open, the browser had 3 windows, I had youtube running, music, and so forth. Of course, several of the apps had to "reload" the last point I was at, but with this phone "reloading" is pretty much instant. The longest it ever took was one of the web pages had to re-download the content. I found that the phone's cache held my normal use just fine without ever having to reload.
4. Fit/Finish/Style: The phone has a very solid feel too, despite being very light in weight. Fits well in the hand, comfortable being used as a phone, and I got a lot of comments on it when I was out and about testing the "wow" factor (I was asked to go to a busy restaurant/bar and see how many people asked me about it). And, as odd as this might sound, being right handed the back button being on the far left was not a big deal, and I actually liked it's placement a lot since when I used it in landscape mode it was much more comfortable hitting it, and I think this is what they had in mind when they designed in like that.
5. Battery Life: Damn! That is all you need to know, Damn! I tried, really, really hard to push this to the max and see how fast I could run it down. I had WiFi and GPS both going, music playing, and was surfing the web as quick as possible, messing around with google maps taking a look at new and interesting places, and gave up. I used 80% of the battery in those 24 hours, for about an hour I was trying my best to run it down, and for the rest a little above typical usage. Today it only went down 20% from 9AM-5PM. My G1 is usually about 60% gone over that period.
6. Conclusion: I am someone that pretty much demands a physical keyboard for me to even think about buying a phone. I am getting a Nexus One as soon as they become available through the company I work for. My manager is a BB addict, and she said as soon as we get it she is switching as well. That is a huge statement, her daily phone is a BB 9700, she texts and writes most of her emails from her phone, and the Nexus One out performed her BB 9700. She was using the google voice service to write, but she said out of all the texts and emails she wrote using it she didn't have a single typo!
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On the battery, I might not have been 100% clear in re-reading this review, and want to say some people on this board have had different results and opinions. To add another experience, my manager used the phone for 2 days and didn't have to charge it, but she didn't use it nearly as much as I did. I am also editing that part of my review, so if you read it the first day it was posted it might be a little different for clarity sakes.
As expected, from a god of the Android phones.
Thanks pjcforpres for this write up/review. Il been holding out on the Nexus one mainly because of Keyboard. Im with Tmobile and have the latest 2.1 rom. I was even considering going to Big Red for the Droid but your review seems honest and has answered a few things for me with Keyboard, Battery life and speed. I may give it a go. Thanks much!
Building on your 2nd point... I was amazed at how quickly apps installed from Market... it was practically instantaneous!
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Thanks pjcforpres for this write up/review. Il been holding out on the Nexus one mainly because of Keyboard. Im with Tmobile and have the latest 2.1 rom. I was even considering going to Big Red for the Droid but your review seems honest and has answered a few things for me with Keyboard, Battery life and speed. I may give it a go. Thanks much!
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I want to point out that I edited the battery review part, and added a note at the end. It didn't read as clearly as the original thought when I wrote it.
I'm a hard keyboard junkie myself, and I have to say that I'm still not as great with the N1's soft keyboard than any hard kb. I don't think they will ever quite pare up.
However, the voice input is really incredible I especially love sitting down in my car, long-pressing "search" so the voice search comes up, and saying "Navigate to burger king." The phone opens Google Maps Navigation, plots the course from my location to the nearest Burger King, and begins turn-by-turn navigation.
Nice review...this bad boy has Awesome speed & eye candy!
Good review but the battery life on the N1, as much as I love this device, is horrendous. It's absolutely terrible. But then again, I actually expected it to be so it's not a big deal. I will get the fattest battery I can when they come out. I use the phone so much that I've actually had to start charging it a third time in one day.
honestly, i'm actually faster with the soft keyboard than i was with a hard board, because i don't have to actually press anything. i've tried on other screenboards too, and this thing is like butter compared to those. a hard keyboard was my sticking point for a long time, but no longer. not after this
You know, I kind of experienced the opposite in terms of battery. My G1 would last all day, with fairly regular usage and by the time I went to bed I was around 70% left battery.
I've had my N1 off the charger since around noon today, and its at 50%. so 24 hours at that rate would completely drain my battery. Overnight also, I left it unplugged, it was at 72% when I wend to bed (around midnight) and 60% when I got up (8:30a), so 8 hours standby consumed 12% battery. My n1 is also currently set to 2G only, as I flip/flop 2g/3g at my house (my g1 did the same here since they put up the new 3g tower).
I left mine off the charger overnight, and had 2% consumption. Not sure what to tell you other than check how often you have your stuff syncing, and what all you have in your background. I don't like task killers much, but I do use them to kill any media apps since even with those chilling in the background waiting for you to come back, they like to drain battery.
So far, on the 3 devices being used in our test group, we have all experienced the same great battery life I reported. Like I already said, my manager made it 2 days on 1 full charge (I think that was officially 44 hours). A couple others in the group experiened the same thing. The data specialist, who is a very heavy user (near constant actually) made it through the work day. That is the first time a smart phone has done that, including BB's.
We all have different ideas of what normal usage is and what heavy use is. Being that I sell cell phones for a living, and gotta fill out fun forms that define those for me, I would like to think my idea is closer to average than some of you guys. Let me put it like this, I guess, for me constant use does not =heavy use. Constant use=Constant use. Heavy use= an average of using the phone 30 minutes out of every hour. Average use=Using the phone less than 15 minutes an hour. As well, we factor in what that usage is, is it data? Is it phone calls? Is it media player?
There are tons of factors that can cause one man to think great battery life and another horrible. I tried my best to write my review and assesment based on my personal experience on a criteria that is based off 4 years of selling cell phones as well the guide sheet made up by 25 people with over 150 years combined experience in the cell phone world.
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I left mine off the charger overnight, and had 2% consumption. Not sure what to tell you other than check how often you have your stuff syncing, and what all you have in your background. I don't like task killers much, but I do use them to kill any media apps since even with those chilling in the background waiting for you to come back, they like to drain battery.
So far, on the 3 devices being used in our test group, we have all experienced the same great battery life I reported. Like I already said, my manager made it 2 days on 1 full charge (I think that was officially 44 hours). A couple others in the group experiened the same thing. The data specialist, who is a very heavy user (near constant actually) made it through the work day. That is the first time a smart phone has done that, including BB's.
We all have different ideas of what normal usage is and what heavy use is. Being that I sell cell phones for a living, and gotta fill out fun forms that define those for me, I would like to think my idea is closer to average than some of you guys. Let me put it like this, I guess, for me constant use does not =heavy use. Constant use=Constant use. Heavy use= an average of using the phone 30 minutes out of every hour. Average use=Using the phone less than 15 minutes an hour. As well, we factor in what that usage is, is it data? Is it phone calls? Is it media player?
There are tons of factors that can cause one man to think great battery life and another horrible. I tried my best to write my review and assesment based on my personal experience on a criteria that is based off 4 years of selling cell phones as well the guide sheet made up by 25 people with over 150 years combined experience in the cell phone world.
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Actually, I think the battery life is pretty good considering the what the phone does. It's just horrible compared to, for example, a non-smartphone. I'm not sure what people mean by "heavy use" but when I say heavy use, I mean my phone is on and I'm playing with it for five hours straight browsing, using data, video, music, games, apps and a combination of those. I rarely talk on the phone. Messaging, browser, music and apps are where I use my phone most. Basically, I use every feature for hours at a time. I live on my phone (for play and work so it's not as bad as it sounds). So if heavy use for others is 30 minutes out of every hour like you said, my heave use is many hours of constant use. But overall, the N1 is a wonderful device and it would take a lot for me to give it up (N2? LOL).
We/ I would call that constant or near constant use. Yes, heay usage might and is what most would call that, but when evaluating battery life on a more concise basis we would call that constant use for clarity and consitancy in the evaluation process from phone to phone and person to person.
I do agree, as well, that many people seem to compare a smart phone to a dumb phone too easily and readily for what their expectations are concerning battery life. IIRC, I can't see it as I write this, in my original post I said for a phone that does as much as the Nexus One, the battery life is great. And of course you say the same!
In my experiences, the Nexus One is just below a BB for battery usage, way better than WinMo, and an improvement over the G1(my personal phone right now). When you consider that it can do way more than a BB, faster, and better, the battery life becomes IMO better than a BB's. As the data specialist found, he actually had better battery life with the Nexus One than he did with his BB 8900 and 9700.
My first 24 have been like a love story
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My first 24 have been like a love story
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Yeah, it was so hard for me to give the phone to the next tester, it was like breaking up with my first love! I am actually thinking about ordering an unlocked off Google because I miss it so much already!
Although my N1's battery is clearly better than my G1's, it's still not nearly what some people are reporting. On weekdays, I get up about 7am and take my phone off the charger. On my way to take my daughter to school, and then on my way to work, I stream Pandora the entire way, on 3G (about 60 minutes in traffic). I get to work by about 8:30, and my battery at that point is at about 80-85%. My G1 would be about 65-70% at that same point. By the time I get home (about 3pm), streaming music all the way home (about 40 minutes). Battery life by the time I get home is around 45-50%, possibly less, depending on if I did much texting at work. By the time I go to bed (9 or 10pm) I'm at around 20%.
That's pretty much an average day. Only once have I completely drained the battery where my phone would not turn on, and it hit that point at about 8:30pm that day. This was not possible on my G1. I would have to charge it at work in order to do all of the above, and I'd still be in the 10-20% range by 10pm.
I think the biggest difference isn't the hardware 'or' the software, but mostly the 1400mah battery compared to the 1000mah battery on the G1. Although, the fact that the N1 is so much faster, means I get more things done in less time, which means more time in idle, and more battery saved.
I did just notice something though... I've had my phone unplugged since 8am this morning, it's now 2am, and I'm still at 20%... can't complain
what are you guys' battery use distribution?
according to the battery use showed on the phone, the screen drains most of my batter most oftenly more than 70 percent.
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what are you guys' battery use distribution?
according to the battery use showed on the phone, the screen drains most of my batter most oftenly more than 70 percent.
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That seems to be the prevailing "peak" usage.
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Maybe it's because I just came from a G1 and don't have any widgets other than the weather application and Handcent, but I have been online, texting, and calling all day since 12:30pm CST and I'm still in the "green" on my phone and it's 3:11am CST here.
This is PHENOMENAL
PS.. I am a T-Mobile user so not sure if this issue is related only to AT&T but this phone ROCKS!
Not everyone has a battery life problem, there is a poll about it somewhere... I find it fine.
Not a problem anymore, I got used to recharge three times a day
People with battery problems are in the minority. They just complain over and over in order for their voice to heard so it seems like a lot more people have the problem than is true. If battery runs low get a spare to make sure it lasts all day.
Watch, you can hear some of them coming right now to say the sky is falling, I am wrong, and how most people have battery issues...
Some people expect their phone to run games/video/navigation/sync/whatever 24/7 on battery and hold the charge for at least 24 hours. They don't even bother to check the reasons for fast drain (if they have it), and think the phone battery has a flux capacitor inside it. Then, when their hopes aren't fulfilled, they cry in every possible thread on the internet. That's how a wrong impression is made.
Personally, no complaints. Running undervolted kernel, so I have some help with battery life, but still, for the same usage as my old WinMo phone with a battery 1.5 times the size and screen 1/2 the size, Nexus works longer.
Battery life is fine here....and I have 2 spare batteries that stay charged in my fridge (read the article about Li-Ion batteries if you wanna know why I keep them in my fridge - that and if I've been pushing the phone hard and it's really warm, it creates a built-in heat sink when I swap batteries)
I sometimes find my phone draining fast but then stop and think about it and usually I remember some mad wifi browsing, movie watching or gaming I did earlier in the day. I think people too quickly forget about how they've used the device and cry when it's running down.
I have the overclock/undervoltage kernel and with SetCPU to ramp down to 245 on standby, it seems to last ages if I can keep my grubby hands from playing with it all day
Battery life is great for me. And most people in the latest battery life thread aren't upset with what they get. But I am always interested in improving it. And the latest technique posted here does wonders. I expect to get at least 2 days of battery now. It really helps the idle battery usage. Overnight last night my phone only used 6%.
i only have a weather app running along with my gmail 2 accounts and google talk. i am connected to wifi. my battery does drain and needs to be charged at least 1 time per day because if i dont charge it the phone will be dead in the monring. i am testing the network as people say its helping then going to see if the wifi is killing me. i dont see why it MUST be charged daily when it doesnt have much use besides a few messeges and very little calls.
i dont know about other people complaing just because but it is a problem for me and swaping betteries just to send a few messages is out of the question. with all this technology i still have to carry around an extra battery to use it? i think not. im sure it has something to do with the networks on my end.
Running latest Cyanogen. I use the phone mostly for surfing, email and chat. Not so much to call with and very little sms. I live in an area with no 3G but i run it on Wi-fi all the time.
never tried to discharge it through the whole day but i can image a 20-24 hour lifespan on my Nexus with my use.
Think im gonna do a full discharge today. 8 hours passed since last charge.. 72% left on it as i write.
Running latest Cyanogen. I use the phone mostly for surfing, email and chat. Not so much to call with and very little sms. I live in an area with no 3G but i run it on Wi-fi all the time.
never tried to discharge it through the whole day but i can image a 20-24 hour lifespan on my Nexus with my use.
Think im gonna do a full discharge today. 8 hours passed since last charge.. 72% left on it as i write.
Some people expect the phone's battery to be a 1000MWatt power station...
Well for what it's worth, it is now 2:36pm CST and I'm stilllllllllllll going! Going to wait until it dies completely and then charge it up fully.
It all depends on what they had previously for a phone. People who went from a dumb phone that lasted for a week on standby and more likely 3 days with regular use will get all sorts of uppity. With smart phones, it turned into getting it charged overnight as the norm, at least it was with the last two WinMo iterations I had before getting the N1. The theory goes that it should be the same with the N1 but consider exactly how much more you actually do with an N1 vs WinMo.
The battery life is comparable with the iphone if not just a bit worse due to the N1's ability to actually multitask. Ask any iphone user and I'll bet there's the ever so spiffy tiny little wall charger handy or readily available.
If you go the route of CM and a UV'd kernel as well as making sure you're not searching constantly for any cell network(ie: get off WCDMA Preferred), then you can realistically get back to that charge only overnight routine.
Everyone's mileage will vary on this one. Adapt to what YOUR standard use is and move on. If that's not good enough, then seek out the services of fleabay and Craigslist to recoup your losses and go back to a dumb phone.
Ok so I read a post that said drain your battery completely for better performance so i did.Got low bat warning and played Avatar to kill it quick.Only it didnt die fast,seemed like forever for this damn thing to really die!!!Maybe I just imagined it so I tried it again.Got low bat warning and watched a 25 min youtube vid followed by a 16 min youtube vid and several rap videos before it cut off.Try it and see how long it takes to really run out of juice and I think youll be surprised
I remembered with my G1, that once i got the low battery warning, I was always able to milk every ounce of power from that battery.
after picking up my vibrant yesterday, i charged to a full 100% with the phone turned off
i've been on it all day long, installing apps and restarting quite frequently, and i just got my first battery warning (21%)
will probably run it into the ground after work for another full cycle charge then just charge whenever it needs it. seems to have more than enough to make through a full day, and i'm only saying this because i haven't been able to put it down since this morning and it's still ticking
edit: and this is all done indoors with fluctuating 3g/2g coverage (home and work)
I have twice run my battery into the ground and charged to 100% with the phone off. Now I am getting a little over 25 hours on a single charge. this battery is indeed better than they said it was.
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I have twice run my battery into the ground and charged to 100% with the phone off. Now I am getting a little over 25 hours on a single charge. this battery is indeed better than they said it was.
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Better than what?
If coming from an old WM, sure, it's better.
But coming from an iPhone, which lasted for 2 days with real use, the battery of the Vibrant sucks.
With moderate use, I can's get through a full day (14-16 hours). It's the one real problem I have with this otherwise great phone.
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But coming from an iPhone, which lasted for 2 days with real use, the battery of the Vibrant sucks.
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3GS or 4? cause the battery on anything before that was abysmal.
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3GS or 4? cause the battery on anything before that was abysmal.
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I had two 3Gs (now have a Galaxy S and a Vibrant). It lasted almost double what the Vibrant does, with similar use.
Love the screen of the Samsung, but the battery is making me a little depressed. I am hoping that Froyo will improve it a bit.
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I had two 3Gs (now have a Galaxy S and a Vibrant). It lasted almost double what the Vibrant does, with similar use.
Love the screen of the Samsung, but the battery is making me a little depressed. I am hoping that Froyo will improve it a bit.
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yeah, hopefully drops sometime soon.
it seems battery life is either really good or really poor, not a lot of middle ground. of course, this could mostly be because of different peoples' opinions. but i'm coming from a dumbphone i only had to charge once a week, and so far i'm pretty impressed. like i mentioned earlier, i've been on this thing non-stop since this morning, and it's just now flashing the battery symbol at me. i imagine once i go through a couple of full cycles, and the new toy factor wears off, it will be a non-issue (for me)
what is your real world usage like?
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I had two 3Gs (now have a Galaxy S and a Vibrant). It lasted almost double what the Vibrant does, with similar use.
Love the screen of the Samsung, but the battery is making me a little depressed. I am hoping that Froyo will improve it a bit.
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Why not just buy some extra batteries? I picked up 3 extra batteries for when I fly so I can watch movies with no worries...
I get great battery life on my Vibrant. Make sure you turn off everything that you don't need....wifi, gps, keep screen brightness low and not on 100% at all times etc...obvious stuff....
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what is your real world usage like?
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Just checking email and talking for maybe 30-60 minutes, plus a few texts.
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Why not just buy some extra batteries? I picked up 3 extra batteries for when I fly so I can watch movies with no worries...
I get great battery life on my Vibrant. Make sure you turn off everything that you don't need....wifi, gps, keep screen brightness low and not on 100% at all times etc...obvious stuff....
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Man, I have turned the brightness down to below stock, and I do have two extra batteries. But that's kind of like going back to my WM days.
After the getting spoiled on the iPhone, which would last for almost two full days with everything running, and with similar use, I really hate having to constantly think about the battery, and worry that it's going to die on me.
True story:
Someone hit my car a few days ago and I tried to take a pic with my Vibrant. It was in late afternoon, so the battery was at 15% I guess -- so the phone effectively told me to "F*** Off." Or at least that's how I took it No pic, of course.
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Just checking email and talking for maybe 30-60 minutes, plus a few texts.
Man, I have turned the brightness down to below stock, and I do have two extra batteries. But that's kind of like going back to my WM days.
After the getting spoiled on the iPhone, which would last for almost two full days with everything running, and with similar use, I really hate having to constantly think about the battery, and worry that it's going to die on me.
True story:
Someone hit my car a few days ago and I tried to take a pic with my Vibrant. It was in late afternoon, so the battery was at 15% I guess -- so the phone effectively told me to "F*** Off." Or at least that's how I took it No pic, of course.
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I hear where you're coming from...have you tried switching out the battery to a different one? I know that some of the batteries were faulty and gave people horrible battery life.
The iPhone also ran at a much slower clock speed and it was equipped with a pretty good battery. There's no denying the awesomeness of the iPhone battery...I'm just thinking that you may have a bad battery. Try changing it out.
There's also a 2800mAh battery pack coming out very soon....it may suit your wants and needs...
The iPhone also lacks widgets and multitasking - and the screen is not as bright so those all help in maintaining battery life.
If you crippled your android in the same way - you could get 2 days pretty easily as well.
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The iPhone also lacks widgets and multitasking - and the screen is not as bright so those all help in maintaining battery life.
If you crippled your android in the same way - you could get 2 days pretty easily as well.
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Very true...
It's like a Geo Metro vs. Ferrari ...hypothetically, if they had the same size gas tank which one would consume more gas and run out faster? It's obvious...
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Very true...
It's like a Geo Metro vs. Ferrari ...hypothetically, if they had the same size gas tank which one would consume more gas and run out faster? It's obvious...
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Come on now....
I have both, and they both have their good points and bad points.
The battery is a bad point for the Vibrant.
The screen is the best point (it's actually not "brighter", but has much better contrast than a backlit LCD). I keep the Vibrant's screen at it's lowest brightness, anyway.
But in terms of speed, there is really not much difference in daily use - if anything, the iPhone 3Gs feels a little smoother much of the time. Again something Froyo might improve.
My well conditioned battery is at 5%, after 16hrs 54 min., with very light non-call use today (calls are at 49 min. 26 sec.).
My point is, that I have to expect more after using the iPhone, while some here are obviously happy with it. But it ain't great.
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Come on now....
I have both, and they both have their good points and bad points.
The battery is a bad point for the Vibrant.
The screen is the best point (it's actually not "brighter", but has much better contrast than a backlit LCD). I keep the Vibrant's screen at it's lowest brightness, anyway.
But in terms of speed, there is really not much difference in daily use - if anything, the iPhone 3Gs feels a little smoother much of the time. Again something Froyo might improve.
My well conditioned battery is at 5%, after 16hrs 54 min., with very light non-call use today (calls are at 49 min. 26 sec.).
My point is, that I have to expect more after using the iPhone, while some here are obviously happy with it. But it ain't great.
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Something is wrong with your battery if that's all you're getting.
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Something is wrong with your battery if that's all you're getting.
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We get five to six hours of display on with this phone. That number is perfect if the phone was on 35% precent or more of those 16 hours.
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It's ALL about the apps you use.
My battery life is pretty good, I can go two days with moderate phone use and my normal heavy-e-mail and occasional messaging usage. I don't do much web browsing with it, but I fiddle with it constantly throughout the day.
My friend couldn't get through one day on his, so I encouraged him to play around with some of the apps he had that I didn't, and now he can get well into day two before it gets low enough he wants to recharge.
My wife complained about her battery life, and I realized she was pinging four e-mail accounts once per minute. Just cutting that back to a five minute interval made a huge difference.
Even so, I've ordered spare batteries and a charger since I travel often and a missed call could cost me a lot of money, and they're too cheap to not keep a few around. (In one of those other threads somebody linked to an ebay deal with two batteries and a charger for 8 bucks.)
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Something is wrong with your battery if that's all you're getting.
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or he's got a bunch of widgets.
That's almost universally a theme when people complain about Android battery usage.
Got my replacement Vibrant yesterday afternoon, charged it full while turned off and took it out at around 9pm. Worked on it a little last night and today installing apps browsing and about 60 min talk time so far.... 3PM and still got 30% left.
Definitely much better battery life than the one I had on first phone. I did get a replacement battery as well, but haven't tested that one yet. This one so far is working as expected.
I haven't rooted yet so I am not sure if that and lag fix has any affect on the battery.
Also ATK is not installed yet, and i hear it has adverse affect on battery. Is that true?
what do you guys see on the battery code?
G7, G8 or G9?
These numbers dont look encouraging at all. Hopefully this 3g power drain isnt all hardware and can be fixed up in software...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3891/samsung-epic-4g-review-the-fastest-android-phone/8
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These numbers dont look encouraging at all. Hopefully this 3g power drain isnt all hardware and can be fixed up in software...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3891/samsung-epic-4g-review-the-fastest-android-phone/8
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Mine is just fine. gets me through a full 8 hour work day and then some. Its right there with the evo and other android devices. Want better battery life?, unferclock it like iphone 4.
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Mine is just fine. gets me through a full 8 hour work day and then some. Quit trolling.
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Well mine just sucks as does the gps. My wife and kid was lost yesterday and the nav/gps would not work. Screw this piece of chit.
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Battery life does suck. Can't do anything on the phone for fear of the battery crapping out.
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Not sure what you are expecting as far as battery life but I have spent hours doing everything from GPS to downloading apps from wi fi and I get about a good 7 - 8 hours. No problems here.
Battery life threads bother me.
You ask your phone to do everything but wipe your rear end. It does more than Apple ever thought about, and we demand even more as customers. Faster Data, faster processors, more ram. Guys I hate to break it to you - but you want battery life go get a feature phone or blackberry. Otherwise, quit complaining about all the stuff you ask your device to do on such a small amount of energy. If we would quit caring so much about design and weight, phone companies could pack a car battery into it for you - look at Sedio... completely ruins the aesthetics of the phone, but you get longer battery life!
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Shut up or give up, battery technology just ain't there yet - and probably will never be able to match our demands until we have little nukes in our pockets.
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My EVO was pulling roughly 15-20 hours of battery life out of a full charge.
Thus far, I haven't been able to break 12 hours with the Epic, doing the same thing and with roughly the same usage. It's more than enough for a day, and I'm almost never near a charger (office, car, home, etc) but it'd be nice to have an extra boost. Bought those 2 for 10 Chinese batteries as a just in case.
At work right now and while streaming dubstep.fm and chatting on aim, my Epic is discharging while it's plugged into the charger.
You people that come into ever battery thread telling everyone to quit complaining and lauding the 8 hours of battery life you phone gets are not only completely missing the point, you're also contributing nothing to the discussion and perpetuating this conception that a third of a day is more than good enough for a phone's battery life. I mean, ****, my laptops get 8 hours of battery life.
The issue here is that we can clearly see that an android phone can get as much as 4 hours of 3g browsing time and 8 hours of wifi browsing time. The fact that this phone fails to come even close to that amount is alarming. A 25% reduction 3g browsing time and a whopping 38% reduction in wifi browsing time should make you question what is going on in this phone. Especially since the manufacturing process that produced this SOC is supposed to be much more power efficient than the one that produced the HTC evo.
I for one am really hoping samsung is aware of this issue and that battery life can be improved via some software tweaks. I owned the HTC evo. I was able to easily get 20 hours of battery life out of that phone doing the exact same things I do now. I was hoping to be able to match that with this phone. But right now, there is definitely an issue. Any of you people that deny it are seriously deluding yourselves.
I too have been frustrated by the surprisingly poor battery life. I've been holding back on believing it is a real problem because the first few days I had my Evo, it too had terrible battery life. However, with the Evo, after some battery conditioning, a hard reset and configuring the phone for what I wanted it to do vs what it came configured to do (Ex: I do not need push email, google voice or 4G running all the time and 25% screen brightness with a widget to switch it to 100% when needed) the Evo stepped up to the plate and settled into a cadence of giving me over 24 hours of use on a single charge.
I've had an Epic for over a week now. I've used it exactly as I do my Evo. I configured it the same as the Evo and in some cases with more extreme battery preserving (Ex: set the screen brightness to zero and only sync email every two hours (rather than the Evo's every hour)) and I can barely make it 14 hours, and that is a 14 hour DEAD stop.
Two other issues that are driving me crazy are the GPS and 3G performance.
It seems that when I'm sitting at home, the GPS will lock in about 10 seconds, but if I'm on the road in a random place (when I need the GPS the MOST) it will simply not lock if I'm driving and if I stop, it will eventually (maybe 5 minutes) lock.
3G performance has been absolutely horrible. I put the Epic right next to an Evo and TP2 and the Epic will get between 1/4th to 1/8th the throughput of the others. If I switch to Wifi, all is well and 4G is comparable (although not as reliable) to the Evo.
I am a keyboard person, the only thing wrong with the Evo was it did not have a keyboard. The Epic is exactly what I want, but these three strikes are making it tough to love. The 3G problem should be easy to fix with an update, as for the GPS and battery I don't know. I'm anxiously watching Sprint / Samsung to see if they will produce an update (see if they stand behind this product.)
BTW, at the end of a day, the number 1 battery culprit (according to the battery settings) is the display. With approx 1 to 1.5 hours of use at 0% brightness with an all black background, it still takes 50% to 65% of the battery (people posting that Super AMOLED saves battery over LCD are simply wrong.) The next offenders are Cell standby and phone idle. I was experiencing the 50% no signal problem, the workaround to cycle airplane mode helped that. But it does bring up another issue, although I have not had any call drops, the signal strength is consistently two bars (out of 6) lower than my Evo and TP2 (sitting right next to each other. At my home and in my office, my Evo and TP2 get 5 to 6 bars (full signal) but the Epic is 3 bars. I know the bars shown are not a good indicator and I don't have any dropped calls, but I wonder if this is not causing battery drain. This also makes me concerned that the main problem with this phone may not be solvable with software, it may be poor antenna design / implementation.
Wow, if more people actually realized that the SAMOLED screen uses MORE battery when displaying white pixels, we'd see less threads like this and less articles like the one posted.
On SAMOLED screens, each pixel is individually lit. White requires the most light. Constant web browsing will kill your battery FASTER than anything else because white is the color of choice when it comes to mobile web pages.
With that being said, OTHER THAN WEB BROWSING the battery on the Epic is much better than the EVO.
hmm i made a thread on 3g battery drain just the other day glad to see some actual evidence to back it up.
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Wow, if more people actually realized that the SAMOLED screen uses MORE battery when displaying white pixels, we'd see less threads like this and less articles like the one posted.
On SAMOLED screens, each pixel is individually lit. White requires the most light. Constant web browsing will kill your battery FASTER than anything else because white is the color of choice when it comes to mobile web pages.
With that being said, OTHER THAN WEB BROWSING the battery on the Epic is much better than the EVO.
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Wonder if we could hack together a browser mod to invert colors?
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Wonder if we could hack together a browser mod to invert colors?
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Heh. That would be nice. In the meantime, I use a darker wallpaper. When using the kindle app, I use white text on a black background. I keep my brightness at 0% (surprisingly still pretty bright) unless I go outside.
My battery if fine too. Turn off wat u don't need and you'll be fine. Mine lasts 8 or 9 hours. U can't expect to use this beast at full power doing everyting all the time and expect this 1500 battery t be magically long lasting. Same prob with evo. Tame the beast
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A-effing-men man. The more features the phone has (or that you use), of course the more battery its going to drain. I came from the 9630 blackberry and i had about 6-10% battery drain per hour so this Epic isnt too bad of a switch for me since i am a heavy user.
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Battery life threads bother me.
You ask your phone to do everything but wipe your rear end. It does more than Apple ever thought about, and we demand even more as customers. Faster Data, faster processors, more ram. Guys I hate to break it to you - but you want battery life go get a feature phone or blackberry. Otherwise, quit complaining about all the stuff you ask your device to do on such a small amount of energy. If we would quit caring so much about design and weight, phone companies could pack a car battery into it for you - look at Sedio... completely ruins the aesthetics of the phone, but you get longer battery life!
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Shut up or give up, battery technology just ain't there yet - and probably will never be able to match our demands until we have little nukes in our pockets.
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Anyone know of any extended batteries for it? I was quite happy with my G1's thickness, so adding a few mm on here should be fine.
(Also, screw form over function - last thing I want is a pretty, comfortable brick.)
Lol I had the same issue, so im taking it back and sticking with my evo and its badass extended battery
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Not sure what you are expecting as far as battery life but I have spent hours doing everything from GPS to downloading apps from wi fi and I get about a good 7 - 8 hours. No problems here.
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Really sad when "a good 7 - 8 hours. No problems here" is now the yard stick battery life we expect from smartphones. Nothing smart there really.
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I too have been frustrated by the surprisingly poor battery life. I've been holding back on believing it is a real problem because the first few days I had my Evo, it too had terrible battery life. However, with the Evo, after some battery conditioning, a hard reset and configuring the phone for what I wanted it to do vs what it came configured to do (Ex: I do not need push email, google voice or 4G running all the time and 25% screen brightness with a widget to switch it to 100% when needed) the Evo stepped up to the plate and settled into a cadence of giving me over 24 hours of use on a single charge.
I've had an Epic for over a week now. I've used it exactly as I do my Evo. I configured it the same as the Evo and in some cases with more extreme battery preserving (Ex: set the screen brightness to zero and only sync email every two hours (rather than the Evo's every hour)) and I can barely make it 14 hours, and that is a 14 hour DEAD stop.
Two other issues that are driving me crazy are the GPS and 3G performance.
It seems that when I'm sitting at home, the GPS will lock in about 10 seconds, but if I'm on the road in a random place (when I need the GPS the MOST) it will simply not lock if I'm driving and if I stop, it will eventually (maybe 5 minutes) lock.
3G performance has been absolutely horrible. I put the Epic right next to an Evo and TP2 and the Epic will get between 1/4th to 1/8th the throughput of the others. If I switch to Wifi, all is well and 4G is comparable (although not as reliable) to the Evo.
I am a keyboard person, the only thing wrong with the Evo was it did not have a keyboard. The Epic is exactly what I want, but these three strikes are making it tough to love. The 3G problem should be easy to fix with an update, as for the GPS and battery I don't know. I'm anxiously watching Sprint / Samsung to see if they will produce an update (see if they stand behind this product.)
BTW, at the end of a day, the number 1 battery culprit (according to the battery settings) is the display. With approx 1 to 1.5 hours of use at 0% brightness with an all black background, it still takes 50% to 65% of the battery (people posting that Super AMOLED saves battery over LCD are simply wrong.) The next offenders are Cell standby and phone idle. I was experiencing the 50% no signal problem, the workaround to cycle airplane mode helped that. But it does bring up another issue, although I have not had any call drops, the signal strength is consistently two bars (out of 6) lower than my Evo and TP2 (sitting right next to each other. At my home and in my office, my Evo and TP2 get 5 to 6 bars (full signal) but the Epic is 3 bars. I know the bars shown are not a good indicator and I don't have any dropped calls, but I wonder if this is not causing battery drain. This also makes me concerned that the main problem with this phone may not be solvable with software, it may be poor antenna design / implementation.
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Wasn't SuperAmoLED supposed to be the wunderkid technology battery life saver? It seems not to be the case with these descriptions like yours. What gives? So it looks better than LCD but sucks just as much juice??
I haven't really done anything different, but my battery life in the past few weeks has just gotten better and better.
Right now it's 3pm. I put in a fresh battery at 9pm last night. Batt level: 55%. I was asleep for 7 out of those 18 hours, but I've had wifi and BT on the whole time. I've read and replied to 15 emails, maybe 10 texts, 15 min of calls, surfed the web for 2 hours, played about 30min of games, and had music streaming for 1.5 hrs. I've easily been making it through long work days (8am-8pm) of moderate/heavy use, whereas before I would need to recharge after 6-8 hours.
Anyone else noticing better battery life after the first few weeks? (of course, it might have to do with the fact that I'm playing with it less, but there are days when I play with it constantly and it's still doing better than 12+ hours)
I'm still on the first week with my current vibrant and I have noticed a slight improvement in battery life since I first got it--the fact that my life is pretty consistent day to day (phone-wise) helps me track it. Maybe the hardware and software need to be 'broken in' per-se?
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Yeah, it does get better, but 12 hours is not good enough nowadays -- if you go to dinner after work, the battery will be dead before you get home.
This is my biggest gripe about the Galaxy S -- compared to my old iPhone 3Gs the battery life just sucks.
I am hoping that the efficiencies that come with Froyo will squeeze a few more hours and make it usable for a full day.
If Samsung gets off its lazy (or incompetent) butt and upgrades us to Froyo soon, of course.
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Yeah, it does get better, but 12 hours is not good enough nowadays -- if you go to dinner after work, the battery will be dead before you get home.
This is my biggest gripe about the Galaxy S -- compared to my old iPhone 3Gs the battery life just sucks.
I am hoping that the efficiencies that come with Froyo will squeeze a few more hours and make it usable for a full day.
If Samsung gets off its lazy (or incompetent) butt and upgrades us to Froyo soon, of course.
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I can get close to 36 hours from mine, not sure what you guys are doing.
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I can get close to 36 hours from mine, not sure what you guys are doing.
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The question is, what are you not doing? We can all get it to last the long, but this is a smart phone. I cannot afford to treat it like if I was stranded on an island.
Before I get into my post I just wanted to say I'm running stock out of the box with no root/ROM/etc. Just plain ol vanilla Eclair...with the JI5 via Kies.
I'm getting about 32 hours myself. I do use tasker to set up profiles only to turn things on when I want them. Such as sync will only be enabled for specific apps when I run them then off when I close them. GPS is only on when I run Maps/Yelp/any geo-aware app then it turns itself off. Turn on silent mode/vibrate when I'm at the office by recognizing specific cell towers...stuff like that.
I also disabled "Use Wireless Networks" under Location & Security since Google says it will use it even when the phone is off. I don't know why but it's been saving on battery too. I also don't use any task killing app such as ATK since I think the phone should be smart enough to manage the memory by itself.
edit: Oh, I use automatic brightness settings too with manual brightness control on the browser (usually on low-med setting)
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The question is, what are you not doing? We can all get it to last the long, but this is a smart phone. I cannot afford to treat it like if I was stranded on an island.
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Everything enabled except brightness. i turn off wifi and bluetooth when sleeping, and have sync set to once an hour for social contacts and such. For facebook etc i manually update my feed when i want to check on it, or it auto updates every hour.
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I haven't really done anything different, but my battery life in the past few weeks has just gotten better and better.
Right now it's 3pm. I put in a fresh battery at 9pm last night. Batt level: 55%. I was asleep for 7 out of those 18 hours, but I've had wifi and BT on the whole time. I've read and replied to 15 emails, maybe 10 texts, 15 min of calls, surfed the web for 2 hours, played about 30min of games, and had music streaming for 1.5 hrs. I've easily been making it through long work days (8am-8pm) of moderate/heavy use, whereas before I would need to recharge after 6-8 hours.
Anyone else noticing better battery life after the first few weeks? (of course, it might have to do with the fact that I'm playing with it less, but there are days when I play with it constantly and it's still doing better than 12+ hours)
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I'm at a point of consistent battery life of about 13 hours of moderate to heavy use. Been this way since about the middle of August. The longest I've pushed it was close to 21 hours but i'm normally in the 11-12 range.
Glad your phone is leveling out though
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I haven't really done anything different, but my battery life in the past few weeks has just gotten better and better.
Right now it's 3pm. I put in a fresh battery at 9pm last night. Batt level: 55%. I was asleep for 7 out of those 18 hours, but I've had wifi and BT on the whole time. I've read and replied to 15 emails, maybe 10 texts, 15 min of calls, surfed the web for 2 hours, played about 30min of games, and had music streaming for 1.5 hrs. I've easily been making it through long work days (8am-8pm) of moderate/heavy use, whereas before I would need to recharge after 6-8 hours.
Anyone else noticing better battery life after the first few weeks? (of course, it might have to do with the fact that I'm playing with it less, but there are days when I play with it constantly and it's still doing better than 12+ hours)
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Nah it's not any different from when you first bought it, you're just using it less, even though you think you are using it the same.
Trust me, when people buy a new phone, the first few days or couple weeks they can't take their fingers off the phone, and it appears battery sucks. As you get over your new toy phase, you don't play with it as much, and magically you think the battery has grown new cells.
bye.
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Yeah, it does get better, but 12 hours is not good enough nowadays -- if you go to dinner after work, the battery will be dead before you get home.
This is my biggest gripe about the Galaxy S -- compared to my old iPhone 3Gs the battery life just sucks.
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There are easy ways to take care of this if you really need better battery life. First, call T-Mobile and complain that battery life is shorter than advertised. They'll walk you through a script and send you a free spare battery. Second, get an external battery charger. They're all over ebay for about ten dollars, and most come with generic spare batteries.
I've now got a charger and three batteries, so I can pretty much make it through an entire work week without worrying. (You couldn't do that with a 3GS!)
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There are easy ways to take care of this if you really need better battery life. First, call T-Mobile and complain that battery life is shorter than advertised. They'll walk you through a script and send you a free spare battery. Second, get an external battery charger. They're all over ebay for about ten dollars, and most come with generic spare batteries.
I've now got a charger and three batteries, so I can pretty much make it through an entire work week without worrying. (You couldn't do that with a 3GS!)
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Are you serious?!
You really like carrying a pocketful of spare batteries?
I have 2 spare batteries, but I pack them only when I travel.
The damned phone should be able to last throughout a full day (meaning 16 or so hours) without having to worry about turning features off or limiting your calls and mail checking).
I never had to even think about the battery with my iPhone 3Gs.
you must really be glued to your phone if you can't make it a full day
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you must really be glued to your phone if you can't make it a full day
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Uhm, I am actually using it exactly the way I used my iPhone, and the way I need to use to do my work.
It just has crappy battery life
What are you comparing it to? A WM6 phone or something?
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I can get close to 36 hours from mine, not sure what you guys are doing.
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I get nice battery life but I use it too much, then "a day" is from 5am to 10pm, it's just too useful, and when you check usage, it's 75% display.
36 hours would be easy if I limited my screen on-time....while I would like a UV kernel it's likely not helping enough. My display is on lowest, yet I'd love a lower setting.
Aside, the more background services check stuff while screen is off, battery life hours down.
Overall, I am VERY happy with the battery life.
Sent from my Vibrant.
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Are you serious?!
You really like carrying a pocketful of spare batteries?
I have 2 spare batteries, but I pack them only when I travel.
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Um, the batteries are pretty small and skinny. Are you wearing pants with no pockets or something? Seriously, the thing can almost fit in the coin pocket of some jeans.
The damned phone should be able to last throughout a full day (meaning 16 or so hours) without having to worry about turning features off or limiting your calls and mail checking).
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Should? Says who? The phone is pretty average for its class. You can either complain that things are not the way you want them, or you can adapt by carrying around a diminutive spare battery.
I never had to even think about the battery with my iPhone 3Gs.
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You must be one of the few 3G/3GS users to never worry about battery life. Most of the users I know have (or had) to recharge mid-day, a pain in the butt since the battery is not removable. Your 3GS has a much slower processor/GPU, and a smaller screen with a quarter of the pixels; but even then, google "iphone 3gs battery life" and you'll get page after page of reviewers and users complaining about the abysmal battery life.
(of course, someone here claims that his Vibrant can go 40+ hours, so maybe your iPhone is a similar outlier.)
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Nah it's not any different from when you first bought it, you're just using it less, even though you think you are using it the same.
Trust me, when people buy a new phone, the first few days or couple weeks they can't take their fingers off the phone, and it appears battery sucks. As you get over your new toy phase, you don't play with it as much, and magically you think the battery has grown new cells.
bye.
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Its exactly what the problem is. When I flash a new rom I spend 30minutes getting back to the way I like it and my battery suffers from it. When I actually use my phone like its intended to be used I get great battery life.
Are you using any kind of ROMs? I think some ROMs greatly improves battery life.
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Should? Says who? The phone is pretty average for its class. You can either complain that things are not the way you want them, or you can adapt by carrying around a diminutive spare battery....
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Only a true nerd....
I wear skinny jeans.... ))
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...You must be one of the few 3G/3GS users to never worry about battery life. Most of the users I know have (or had) to recharge mid-day, a pain in the butt since the battery is not removable. Your 3GS has a much slower processor/GPU, and a smaller screen with a quarter of the pixels; but even then, google "iphone 3gs battery life" and you'll get page after page of reviewers and users complaining about the abysmal battery life.
(of course, someone here claims that his Vibrant can go 40+ hours, so maybe your iPhone is a similar outlier.)
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Dude, I've had one iPhone 2G and two iPhone 3Gs. I also have two Galaxy S variants (international and a Vibrant).
There is no comparison between the iPhone 3Gs and the Galaxy S in terms of battery life. With the same kind of usage, the iPhone 3 Gs would last about 32-37 hours, while the Galaxy S would last about 12-13.
Even the iPhone 2G lasted about 18-20 hours. Now, compared to my previous HTC WM6 and WM6.5 phone, the Galaxy S does have longer battery life, but that's nothing to be so proud of.
The Galaxy's screen is certainly better than the 3Gs's, but the Super AMOLED is supposed to be more efficient than the LCD on the iPhone. Plus, in real world use, the iPhone 3Gs certainly feels smoother than the Galaxy S, even with the lag fix, and scrolling on the iPhone is smooth as butter, while the Galaxy S is choppy.
And it's not just the OS, because the EVO scrolls noticeably smoother than the Galaxy S.
I consistently get 20+ hours out of one charge. I can't really use my phone at work, but during breaks and lunch I'm always getting on it and checking mail/feeds/youtube or whatever and still have about 70% by the time I go home. I usually have more than half by the time I go to bed unless I've been doing some tethering or heavy audio/video streaming.
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Nah it's not any different from when you first bought it, you're just using it less, even though you think you are using it the same.
Trust me, when people buy a new phone, the first few days or couple weeks they can't take their fingers off the phone, and it appears battery sucks. As you get over your new toy phase, you don't play with it as much, and magically you think the battery has grown new cells.
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lol...thats so true...
Many people are getting the Turbo for the battery life it should be getting, and are disappointed with real world results. Personally, I have been super happy. Coming from an iPhone 5S, I am getting much better battery life while in use, but have noticed my idle usage a bit worse. I knew that would happen, Android is notorious for poor idle battery life, especially with out-of-the-box configuration, and initial release firmware for a new phone, let alone initial release firmware for a new chipset / radio / screen combo.
So, like I had done with every Android phone I have owned (I started with Android on a TyTN II, then HTC G1, then Nexus 1, then HTC G2, and so forth)... I setup my Turbo to match my actual usage needs, privacy desires, and so forth. A few items of note that we could all benefit from are the following:
1) Disable unused / unwanted apps. I could probably be more aggressive than I was, but I feel fine enough. (see attached screen captures)
2) Use WiFi over cellular data when possible.
3) Auto screen brightness.
4) Turn off GPS, and even better, turn off location all together.
5) Turn off bluetooth when not in use.
6) The battery needs to go through ~1 week of charge cycles to fully calibrate and settle in.
7) Keep in mind, the more features you use (ie Moto Voice, location aware services, etc) the more battery used.
I use Moto Display, but do not use Moto Voice or Google Now. I have 2 emails syncing, and get ~100 emails a day that I am notified about. Plenty of texts, very few phone calls. Facebook, Facebook messenger, Google+, and I think that is it for apps that update / stay active when not in use.
I have had no problem getting 2 days of use out of my Turbo. Take it off the charger morning of day 1, use it, go to sleep, use it for another, and toss it on the charger when I go to bed. I average about 3-4 hours screen on time each day, mostly spent responding to texts, surfing the web, facebook, google +, and taking pictures of neat stuff I see and think I can use in a web design.
I didn't screen capture it, but last night when I put my Turbo on the charger I still had 24% left, with just over 6 hours of SOT, and nearly 38 hours on battery. Now, I sold cellphones for 6 years, and would consider myself a little above average in my usage based on my personal experience and observations. I would classify most of the folk on here as heavy users.
For me, this phone is about giving us a power house of a device, with a battery to match. I didn't buy into the marketing claims. My expectation was enough battery to get me through a full day. So far, the phone has exceeded my expectations by two fold.
I fully expect future updates to improve battery life even more, especially as Motorola improves their firmware for the 805 chipset, QHD displays, and the new radio chip. As well, KitKat has never been very good at handling idle background apps, so Lollipop should bring a pretty big boost in those regards as well (although, I am only seeing .5% idle drain an hour over night, which is not great, but is better than many others I have seen).
In conclusion, for those still reading, the battery life is solid in my experience. With a few setup tweaks, it is the best I have ever experienced on a smartphone since the old school Blackberry days.
I get near 2 days with having the brightness in the negatives with lux. I almost never use GPS or Bluetooth. I also turn off any data usage when I don't need it (4g/WiFi). I know people may say something like "I shouldn't have to turn brightness down into the negatives ". Well, ya don't have to if you don't want excellent battery life and try not to believe these near ridiculous claims.
I get less than one day and I'm actually using the phone and features rather than gimp my phone so I can show off my epenis on XDA. I just charge at night, while driving or drop on a charging pad if needed. Doesn't bother me and I can use every feature I want. Love it.
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I get less than one day and I'm actually using the phone and features rather than gimp my phone so I can show off my epenis on XDA. I just charge at night, while driving or drop on a charging pad if needed. Doesn't bother me and I can use every feature I want. Love it.
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I use my phone and the features that I actually want to and care to use. Just because a phone can do something, doesn't mean you have to do that. My laptop can edit videos super crazy awesome, but I don't. So if I don't care to use Moto Voice, Google Now, and other features, that is my choice, and is not gimping the phone.
I don't see why you felt the need to try and show off your epenis by being a prick, but congratulations on lacking basic reading comprehension, and having a lot of pointless anger.
Guess next time I decide to share my personal experience, and tid-bits of advice, I will run it by you first to make sure it doesn't offend you.
That's fine but the point is with everything you've turned off I don't understand the reason to get it at all. Also just curious you really have no ability to charge it in less than 48 hours? I don't get the fascination with battery life its like a game.
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That's fine but the point is with everything you've turned off I don't understand the reason to get it at all. Also just curious you really have no ability to charge it in less than 48 hours? I don't get the fascination with battery life its like a game.
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I removed the apps I don't / won't ever use... do you plan on using the Verizon Navigator? If not, why wouldn't you disable it? I turned off services I rarely use, such as GPS and location services (which if I do use maps to navigate to a new place, I can turn it back on with one tap on the power control widget).
I don't get a phone because it gives me a bunch of new random features to use, even though they do nothing for me. I get a phone that is powerful enough to do the same stuff as my laptop when it comes to managing 5 servers, running a business that involves a ton of email communication, and marketing that business with social media. I use plenty of features of the phone, probably more than you do, I just don't waste my time using stuff that doesn't make me more efficient.
To answer your question, I have access to a charger pretty much 24/7, most people do to. I don't get why you can't understand that some people choose not to charge their phone, just for the sake of charging it. I toss it on the charger when it needs it.
Here's something that has helped a lot with Moto Display: unchecking the quiet mode on the Sleep settings, checking the "turn off display" and setting the time for sleep mode to be 12:01am-12:00am, essentially setting it to be all day. This means the screen won't pulse every few seconds, but you can still use the wave motion and proximity sensor to show the Moto Display!
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pjcforpres said:
I removed the apps I don't / won't ever use... do you plan on using the Verizon Navigator? If not, why wouldn't you disable it? I turned off services I rarely use, such as GPS and location services (which if I do use maps to navigate to a new place, I can turn it back on with one tap on the power control widget).
I don't get a phone because it gives me a bunch of new random features to use, even though they do nothing for me. I get a phone that is powerful enough to do the same stuff as my laptop when it comes to managing 5 servers, running a business that involves a ton of email communication, and marketing that business with social media. I use plenty of features of the phone, probably more than you do, I just don't waste my time using stuff that doesn't make me more efficient.
To answer your question, I have access to a charger pretty much 24/7, most people do to. I don't get why you can't understand that some people choose not to charge their phone, just for the sake of charging it. I toss it on the charger when it needs it.
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That's all I'm saying. You could charge the phone if you wanted but you choose not to. I'm guessing you wait until your car is running on fumes before filling it up or do you keep a gas tank in your trunk. [emoji3]
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That's all I'm saying. You could charge the phone if you wanted but you choose not to. I'm guessing you wait until your car is running on fumes before filling it up or do you keep a gas tank in your trunk. [emoji3]
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Actually, I try to make sure I always have at least half a tank of gas. Most vehicles have an in-tank fuel pump, which run best and last the longest when fully immersed in fuel, which typically is ~35-45% full tank.
I used to be obsessed with SOT and battery life. The **** I had to turn off to get my battery life to match those on XDA was insane. Now I don't care. I use my phone to the max and at most I have to charge it nightly. Otherwise it lasts me through part of the next day. LG G2 btw.
Either way, do as you please. It is your phone. And if battery life is key for you all the more power!
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Many people are getting the Turbo for the battery life it should be getting, and are disappointed with real world results. Personally, I have been super happy. Coming from an iPhone 5S, I am getting much better battery life while in use, but have noticed my idle usage a bit worse. I knew that would happen, Android is notorious for poor idle battery life, especially with out-of-the-box configuration, and initial release firmware for a new phone, let alone initial release firmware for a new chipset / radio / screen combo.
So, like I had done with every Android phone I have owned (I started with Android on a TyTN II, then HTC G1, then Nexus 1, then HTC G2, and so forth)... I setup my Turbo to match my actual usage needs, privacy desires, and so forth. A few items of note that we could all benefit from are the following:
1) Disable unused / unwanted apps. I could probably be more aggressive than I was, but I feel fine enough. (see attached screen captures)
2) Use WiFi over cellular data when possible.
3) Auto screen brightness.
4) Turn off GPS, and even better, turn off location all together.
5) Turn off bluetooth when not in use.
6) The battery needs to go through ~1 week of charge cycles to fully calibrate and settle in.
7) Keep in mind, the more features you use (ie Moto Voice, location aware services, etc) the more battery used.
I use Moto Display, but do not use Moto Voice or Google Now. I have 2 emails syncing, and get ~100 emails a day that I am notified about. Plenty of texts, very few phone calls. Facebook, Facebook messenger, Google+, and I think that is it for apps that update / stay active when not in use.
I have had no problem getting 2 days of use out of my Turbo. Take it off the charger morning of day 1, use it, go to sleep, use it for another, and toss it on the charger when I go to bed. I average about 3-4 hours screen on time each day, mostly spent responding to texts, surfing the web, facebook, google +, and taking pictures of neat stuff I see and think I can use in a web design.
I didn't screen capture it, but last night when I put my Turbo on the charger I still had 24% left, with just over 6 hours of SOT, and nearly 38 hours on battery. Now, I sold cellphones for 6 years, and would consider myself a little above average in my usage based on my personal experience and observations. I would classify most of the folk on here as heavy users.
For me, this phone is about giving us a power house of a device, with a battery to match. I didn't buy into the marketing claims. My expectation was enough battery to get me through a full day. So far, the phone has exceeded my expectations by two fold.
I fully expect future updates to improve battery life even more, especially as Motorola improves their firmware for the 805 chipset, QHD displays, and the new radio chip. As well, KitKat has never been very good at handling idle background apps, so Lollipop should bring a pretty big boost in those regards as well (although, I am only seeing .5% idle drain an hour over night, which is not great, but is better than many others I have seen).
In conclusion, for those still reading, the battery life is solid in my experience. With a few setup tweaks, it is the best I have ever experienced on a smartphone since the old school Blackberry days.
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I have to say that I'm really pleased with your writing, I'm planning to buy this phone (Moto Maxx) next week and I have spend many hours reading through the forums about the good and bad things, among all the threads and complains.
I think that most of the things that are annoying people would be fixed easily by software, and moreover, Lollipop is ready for release for most of Moto devices and soak tests were made, but Motorola is just waiting to the global release.
I'm just a normal user, if I receive 2-3 mails by day is a lot, some chats, almost no calls and no social networks most of the time, but I'm behind the Moto suite goodies and the battery life, and I think this phone would give me that.
Thanks for sharing.
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