What's the difference between the 2014 and the new tab/note PRO models? - Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2, 10.1, 8.4 General

And which is better?
One thing I hate about Samsung is that they have to many daym models!
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Neo3D said:
And which is better?
One thing I hate about Samsung is that they have to many daym models!
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Note Pro is 12.2 inches with S-pen.
Tab Pros are 8,10.1 and 12.2 inch devices with same UI as Note Pro 12.2 but no S-pen.
And Note 2014 is a 10.1 inch device with S-pen. However has old UI but hopefully an update to kitkat soon will change that.
So really the only difference apart from size is Note series has S-pen and Tab Pro series doesnt.
Hope that helps lol.
Which is better well depends on your needs really all are very high spec devices.

Geordie Affy said:
Note Pro is 12.2 inches with S-pen.
Tab Pros are 8,10.1 and 12.2 inch devices with same UI as Note Pro 12.2 but no S-pen.
And Note 2014 is a 10.1 inch device with S-pen. However has old UI but hopefully an update to kitkat soon will change that.
So really the only difference apart from size is Note series has S-pen and Tab Pro series doesnt.
Hope that helps lol.
Which is better well depends on your needs really all are very high spec devices.
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Thanks!
What about RAM, storage, resolution, display type (SAMOLED or LCD?), CPU and GPU?
I love my Note 3 and want something with 3GB of RAM so it can be more future proof. AFAIK, only the 12.2" version of the new models will have 3GB of RAM correct?

Note 10.1 2014 has 3gb of ram
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A comparison of the N10.1-14 against the new tablets using Samsung's press release as a base...
[We have it] The Samsung Galaxy NotePRO and TabPRO present the world’s first 12.2-inch (or 8.4-inch/10.1-inch) WQXGA Widescreen (16:10) display, offering crystal clear resolution (2560x1600)
[We’re getting it; at least in some form] A personalized Magazine UX, specifically optimized for a large screen, allows users to further tailor their Galaxy tablet experience for their own needs. The UX enables them to organize their favorite content in an easy-to-use dashboard with automatic feed or news updates and then quickly access the most frequently used apps for a more comfortable reading experience.
[We have it; “four windows” is probably for the 12” models only] Multi Window enables users to split the screen up into four different windows and an innovative, Virtual Keyboard provides them with enough space to type comfortably, leveraging haptic feedback to produce a more realistic typing experience.
[We have it] The Samsung S Pen included with the Galaxy NotePRO delivers a more responsive, productive and overall efficient tablet experience with access to features such as Action Memo, Scrapbook, Screen Write and S Finder. In addition, Pen Window enables users to simply draw a window of any size on the screen, and instantly access unique in-application features such as YouTube or a calculator.
[Unknown if we’ll get it] Users can easily access and control their home or office PC directly through their Galaxy NotePRO or TabPRO with Remote PC in order to seamlessly edit and save files remotely.
[Unknown if we’ll get it] The Galaxy NotePRO and TabPRO also come pre-loaded with Cisco WebEx Meetings platform, the industry’s leading web conferencing solution that provides users with an easy way to meet with anyone, anywhere. And now for the first time on Android tablets, users can share anything on their screen as well as starting a WebEx meeting from contact list. Samsung e-Meeting provides collaboration capabilities by giving users the ability to share content during a meeting without having to access a central server or network.
[We have the one’s in green; the other's are unknown] For additional value and productivity right out of the box, the Samsung Galaxy NotePRO and TabPRO (12.2) will feature up to approximately $700 worth of the premium pre-paid, long-term subscription offers from best-selling news, social media and cloud storage providers, including: Bitcasa, Bloomberg Businessweek+, Blurb, Cisco WebEx Meetings, Dropbox, Easilydo Pro for Tablet, Evernote, Hancom Office for Android, LinkedIn, LIVESPORT.TV, NY Times, Oxford Advanced Learner’s A-Z, and Sketchbook Pro (content packages may vary by region).
[The accessories that aren't size dependent should be compatible, the LAN adapter is unknown. The 12” tablets have an additional port on their right side] Designed to extend productivity even further, the following optional accessories are also available for purchase with the Galaxy NotePRO and TabPRO: Various Book Covers, USB LAN HUB, Universal BT Keyboard and S Action Mouse (accessories may vary by product model).
[We don’t have MIMO but the new 8.4” and 10.1” tablets don’t either] Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac MIMO (2.4 & 5 GHz), Wi-Fi Direct, AllShareCast, BT4.0.
And I know, the devs (all two of them ) might be able to port some of the features and functionality we aren't getting over. But some of us can't root because of KNOX so consider the above list for those for whatever reason are stuck with what Samsung provides.

There are no differences between Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12,2 except the screen size, i believe and there is no reason for Samsung not to update the Note 10.1 2014 with the new UI.

halowen_pcd said:
There are no differences between Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12,2 except the screen size, i believe
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There are differences.
There is no reason for Samsung not to update the Note 10.1 2014 with the new UI.
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There are reasons.
It's been discussed to death in the thread linked below. Bottom line is until we see what the Pro/Notes come with and what the N10.1-14 gets (some form of M-UX is the only thing that's certain because it appeared on the microsite) after they're released no one here can say with certainty the N10.1-14 will be brought up to "Pro" level; even though that's what we all hope/want/wish.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2601477

wow are you serious
halowen_pcd said:
There are no differences between Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12,2 except the screen size, i believe and there is no reason for Samsung not to update the Note 10.1 2014 with the new UI.
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They have every reason not to upgrade. They want to sell people on the new featured which means they want peop, e to buy the new device so the get money from device sales.
I have been a long time consumer of samsung products and ifmyou look at it we wait on averagr,8 to 9 months for OS upgrades wnile mamh other devices and manufacturesnalready have them. Samsung is the best for Android but not good with updates.

alynch75 said:
They have every reason not to upgrade. They want to sell people on the new featured which means they want peop, e to buy the new device so the get money from device sales.
I have been a long time consumer of samsung products and ifmyou look at it we wait on averagr,8 to 9 months for OS upgrades wnile mamh other devices and manufacturesnalready have them. Samsung is the best for Android but not good with updates.
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They got much more to lose, not to update N2014 with new M.UX and bad publicity is always something companys want to avoid. But we already know that N2014 will get 4.4 with new M.UX. If there is hardware limitations, then its understandable, since there isnt and there are no reason N.2014 wont get new M.UX.
Also, u are wrong about Samsung with updates, they are indeed the best of all OEMs with updates and dont know where u get from they are bad with updates?
Which OEM are better with updates then Samsung?
http://www.sammobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/SamMobile-Update-List-Volume-1-Issue-3.pdf

dt33 said:
Also, u are wrong about Samsung with updates, they are indeed the best of all OEMs with updates and dont know where u get from they are bad with updates?
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They can be. They can also be atrocious. Ask the people in this 50 page thread from the N10.1-12 forum discussing the fact they've been on 4.1.2 for a year.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481738

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dt33 said:
They got much more to lose, not to update N2014 with new M.UX and bad publicity is always something companys want to avoid. But we already know that N2014 will get 4.4 with new M.UX. If there is hardware limitations, then its understandable, since there isnt and there are no reason N.2014 wont get new M.UX.
Also, u are wrong about Samsung with updates, they are indeed the best of all OEMs with updates and dont know where u get from they are bad with updates?
Which OEM are better with updates then Samsung?
http://www.sammobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/SamMobile-Update-List-Volume-1-Issue-3.pdf
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Galaxy tab 7.7 enough said. More than capable of getting g a.few more updates. Still stuck in honey comb and ice cream sandwich......the nook HD has.similar specs but got updated ... Hmm I. Alive.they have android 4.3 now. Not gonna argue with you guys. I llove.my Samsung products.
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Galaxy tab 7.7 enough said. More than capable of getting g a.few more updates. Still stuck in honey comb and ice cream sandwich......the nook HD has.similar specs but got updated ... Hmm I. Alive.they have android 4.3 now. Not gonna argue with you guys. I llove.my Samsung products.
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If the note 10.1 2014 was.getting the update where is it. The new.stuff is.same.hardware. it was.at ces.running new.software.hmmm interesting.no update.. I hope I am wrong o. This.but j think if .we do get the update it will be.November or December 2014!!!!!!!!!!

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If the note 10.1 2014 was.getting the update where is it. The new.stuff is.same.hardware. it was.at ces.running new.software.hmmm interesting.no update.. I hope I am wrong o. This.but j think if .we do get the update it will be.November or December 2014!!!!!!!!!!
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M-UX is now listed as a feature on the N10.1-14 site. So people buying it have the expectation and an "implied" commitment from Samsung that they'll be getting it. In fact, those that don't follow technology news like we do will probably call Samsung support to ask where it is if they buy a N10.1-14 before the M-UX update's released. If I were to bet I'd say we'll get it either when the Tab|Pro 10.1 goes up for sale/pre-sale or possibly even before. I say before because what incentive does Samsung have to push people toward a cheaper tablet (Tab|Pro 10.1) by letting the N10.1-14's update languish? We may get it after the Tab/Note|Pro 12's go on sale to give them some time on the market with M-UX exclusively both before we get the update and the Tab|Pro 10.1's released. Samsung wants to sell tablets in top-down order of price. So bigger screens and S Pen go to the top of the list because those devices make Samsung more and have higher margins.

BarryH_GEG said:
M-UX is now listed as a feature on the N10.1-14 site. So people buying it have the expectation and an "implied" commitment from Samsung that they'll be getting it. In fact, those that don't follow technology news like we do will probably call Samsung support to ask where it is if they buy a N10.1-14 before the M-UX update's released. If I were to bet I'd say we'll get it either when the Tab|Pro 10.1 goes up for sale/pre-sale or possibly even before. I say before because what incentive does Samsung have to push people toward a cheaper tablet (Tab|Pro 10.1) by letting the N10.1-14's update languish? We may get it after the Tab/Note|Pro 12's go on sale to give them some time on the market with M-UX exclusively both before we get the update and the Tab|Pro 10.1's released. Samsung wants to sell tablets in top-down order of price. So bigger screens and S Pen go to the top of the list because those devices make Samsung more and have higher margins.
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Where in the site you saw this, I just went to the site and didn't saw it.

The Tap Pro series only have 2 GB of ram, only the Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12.2 have 3 GB of RAM.
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IMHO I think it would be better if they upgraded the Note 10.2014 to KK 4.4 and whatever else before they release the Note/Tab Pro range as those who have the 2014 Note will either sing the praise or decry the device and it's operation and usage. If it works well then Samsung get free advertising from customers which will knock spots off any reviews out there but if we decry it due to this and that then they will be able to tweak anything that customers find wrong before they go on sale.
To me that's the way to do business but of course Samsung will think differently I bet lol.
Any news on the tom tom drums about a release date yet?????

halowen_pcd said:
There are no differences between Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12,2 except the screen size, i believe and there is no reason for Samsung not to update the Note 10.1 2014 with the new UI.
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Don't all the new Note tablets come with USB 3.0?

Neo3D said:
Don't all the new Note tablets come with USB 3.0?
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Lodix said:
The Tap Pro series only have 2 GB of ram, only the Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12.2 have 3 GB of RAM.
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That's what I thought too.
So, unless people want a 12" tablet, I guess the Note 10.1 v2014 is the way to go.
Can someone else confirm?

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Can someone else confirm?
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Official specs from Samsung on the N10.1-14, Note|Pro 12 (Tab|Pro is the same sans S Pen), and Tab|Pro 10.1. I've highlighted in red what's different on the latter from the N10.1-14. The Tab|Pro 10.1 specs says it has Wi-Fi channel bonding while the N10.1-14's doesn't. It might and just never got included in the initially published specs.

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Official specs from Samsung on the N10.1-14, Note|Pro 12 (Tab|Pro is the same sans S Pen), and Tab|Pro 10.1. I've highlighted in red what's different on the latter from the N10.1-14. The Tab|Pro 10.1 specs says it has Wi-Fi channel bonding while the N10.1-14's doesn't. It might and just never got included in the initially published specs.
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That is crazy! Samsung really did take out a full 1 gb of RAM in the new Note 10.1! I think that means if Samsung stops making the 10.1 v2014, then that model should hold its value fairly well, maybe?

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Galaxy Tab 2 (7") announced running ICS

GALAXY TAB 2 7"
Contains photo of what seems to be touchwiz UX for ics.
If you have nothing constructive to contribute, please do not comment.
Article: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...ab-2-android-4.0/&category=classic&postPage=1
Video, close up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAH-Ff7Uouw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This means (most likeley) that we will get ICS in march!
Yéé!
Heard this thing can do the GSM calls as well.
It reminds me of gingercomb :/
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Am I the only one that thinks this is strange? They introduced the "7 Plus" with upgraded h/w (1.2GHz Exynos) and HC and now they're introducing what's basically the original 7" with nothing new but ICS? If the specs are correct the 1GHz chip is probably the now ancient Teg2. The only h/w difference appears to be 1MB of RAM instead of 512K. So what's their strategy? Introduce ICS via newly named devices? Will there be a Tab 10.1 "2" that has ICS? What would that mean to the existing Tab 10.1 "1?" If they tie ICS to launching second versions of their existing devices, even if they intend to upgrade the originals, we'll be waiting an awfully long time. To me, this isn't good news until we know how it affects getting ICS on existing products.
That makes sense, I acknowledge your concern but we could always use the system dump from the new tab ,especially if it has the same hw, although it may need some scaling
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Here is the desktop link to the one posted in the original post. It has a link to the announcement of the tab 7.0 2
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/13/samsung-announces-galaxy-tab-2-android-4.0/
I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
Stuckinabox said:
I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
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Most phones are also much thicker than the tablets are. It's a form-factor limitation. When it comes to camera, it is mostly all about the optics. It'll get there as the processors behind these cameras keep getting faster, better, smaller. But until then, you need to rely on the glass and space between them.
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I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
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tell me how often you use your tab to take picture ?
Sorry, system is temporarily unavailable, please try again later. -_-
oh it's for the 7.0 tab
gee thanks
I think this is gonna be a budget price model to complete with Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet. But i don't think they can offer this at a price tag less than 300$
and now hopefully to see someone upload leak ics rom for the tab
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I think this is gonna be a budget price model
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Not so much...
Revealing what it says are the "official" prices across several countries in Europe, blogging site Samsung Hub found that the price in U.S. dollars for the Wi-Fi-only version ranged from $419 to $450, while the cost of the Wi-Fi+3G version varied from $523 to $568.
Here's an article that, like me, questions why it exists at all...
http://gizmodo.com/5884606/samsung-galaxy-tab-2-why-do-you-exist
So, basicaly, you'd get the same "hardware" than the Tab 10.1 but with a 7" screen...
looks interesting but I personally prefer tablets with a bigger screen than 7-inch
Too bad it's a 7 inch. Will samsung release a 10 inch version soon?
i cant wait for ICS on my 10.1. Honeycomb is a joke. I am running a KANG ics build but i cant wait for the real thing
I have been looking at videos of this tab, and scrolling through home screens in portrait packed full of widgets looks flawlessly smooth. I really hope we get that new touchwiz launcher.
Edit: I have the galaxy s2, and I have been running the an ICS leak of the last few weeks, Samsung has updated the touch-wiz launcher a lot for ICS, and it looks a lot like the launcher on this new tab. So if they will update the s2 to this new launcher style, hopefully they will do the same for our tab, as this new touchwiz launcher looks smooth and very nice. If it is as smooth on our tab as it is on this new 7inch, it will make all my tabby dreams come true
To the OP; I think this thread is a good idea, thank you. But just as constructive criticism , you really should have sated more about what you meant this thread to be about in your first post

Samsung unveils Galaxy Tab 2 (7.0), offers Ice Cream Sandwich on a seven-inch platter

Samsung unveils Galaxy Tab 2 (7.0), offers Ice Cream Sandwich on a seven-inch platter
It looks like Samsung has just taken the wraps off its latest tablet offerings, with the Galaxy Tab 2 (7.0) -- an ICS-laced follow-up to the company's original seven-incher. Available in both 3G and WiFi varieties, this redux doesn't mark a huge departure from its predecessor, packing a 1GHz dual-core processor, 1GB of RAM and a 1024 x 600 LCD. The big changes, however, come in the software department, with the Galaxy Tab 2 shipping with Android 4.0 straight out of the box. Other than that, you'll find a three-megapixel rear-facing camera, a VGA shooter up front, Bluetooth capabilities, and HSPA+ connectivity. No word yet on pricing or availability, but it's worth noting that we first saw this announcement hit Samsung's RSS feed earlier this morning, and it appears to have been pulled since then. It all looks awfully official to us, but when it becomes officially official, we'll be sure to update this post accordingly. Until then, be sure to head past the break for a shot of its backside.
For more information, videos, and photos about this product and other products visit the source
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Wow thats it? Should at least have Oled. Seriously not much of an upgrade. Imho
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I would much prefer a 7.7 with pen input and/or keyboard dock
seen this tab last 2 weeks ago at walmart...
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ranchosteve said:
Wow thats it? Should at least have Oled. Seriously not much of an upgrade. Imho
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yes, no one expected this
xda2jojo said:
seen this tab last 2 weeks ago at walmart...
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I think you saw the Galaxy Tab plus, not this
FC1032 said:
I would much prefer a 7.7 with pen input and/or keyboard dock
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Maybe, the galaxy note 10.1 is good for you
They're yet to mention whether this or the new Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 have the Tegra 2 chip, even if I didn't have my original Tab there's no way I'd buy it with a Tegra 2.
mfamafia said:
Maybe, the galaxy note 10.1 is good for you
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Yes that one has caught my attention, just holding out to see some reviews.
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I prefer the galaxy note 10.1
zackoes said:
I prefer the galaxy note 10.1
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Me too.......
Really, ohhh come on Samsung why are you doing this, this is an inferior model compared to the galaxy 7.7 the only thing it has going for is ICS which the 7.7 doesn't at the moment. This is why Samsung is playing catch-up to Apple even though I deeply believe that the tabs are supperior but churning all these different models for what? Just concentrate on one single model and make it the best device available.
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I would rather get the Asus transformer infinity 700.
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that would explain why samsung doesn´t upgrade the original tab to ICS
7" is good for carrying around, so 3G is a must-have feature.

jellybean on its way

the Jellybean update for the Note Will be along "very Soon"
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/08/29/...y-note-10-1-jelly-bean-updates-due-very-soon/
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the Jellybean update for the Note Will be along "very Soon"
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/08/29/...y-note-10-1-jelly-bean-updates-due-very-soon/
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If the Note gets it before the TF700 the Asus owners will have a stroke. I hope it has some of the Note II features unveiled today like the lasso tool, hover, and "I'm away from my stylus."
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If the Note gets it before the TF700 the Asus owners will have a stroke. I hope it has some of the Note II features unveiled today like the lasso tool, hover, and "I'm away from my stylus."
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I'm pretty sure GNote 10.1 will be able to handle Air View and S-Pen buddy as it already has the hovering mode and accelerometer built in, unless Samsung decide to make those features exclusive for GNote 2
I dont think the screen will detect the S-Pen after 14mm, as stated by manual.
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If the Note gets it before the TF700 the Asus owners will have a stroke. I hope it has some of the Note II features unveiled today like the lasso tool, hover, and "I'm away from my stylus."
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That's exactly what I was thinking! I switched from the tf700 thinking that I was sacrificing an update to jellybean. its really anyones guess whether samsung decided the include the note II features even though the tablet could easily handle all of them, but samsung likes exclusive features on its newest devices. on the other hand, samsung has been remarkably quick with its jellybean update, and since this device is still less than a month old samsung could throw in the note II features to make more people want to buy the tablet.
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I'm pretty sure GNote 10.1 will be able to handle Air View and S-Pen buddy as it already has the hovering mode and accelerometer built in, unless Samsung decide to make those features exclusive for GNote 2
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There's no reason for them not to add new features, particularly when everyone says the Note 10.1 "sucks" compared to it's competitors and will get "pwned" by the Surface/Series 5/etc. etc. They need anything they can get to set them out from the pack, and definitely pushing JB with some serious new features behind it before Asus can get in gear would be a good way to say "hey, look at us!"
This is a halo device, after all (for now).
i don't like the term "very soon."
"later this year" at least gave us a time frame. "very soon" is a relative term that could be anywhere from days to beyond the end of the year. hell, we only have 4 full months left and christmas is coming "very soon."
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i don't like the term "very soon."
"later this year" at least gave us a time frame. "very soon" is a relative term that could be anywhere from days to beyond the end of the year. hell, we only have 4 full months left and christmas is coming "very soon."
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The fact that Samsung has pulled the latest OTA (cannot personally confirm this but have heard) leads me to believe it will be VERY soon.
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Lets hope very soon includes- "everything is working properly" in its definition.
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if the note gets it before the tf700 the asus owners will have a stroke."
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hahahahahahaha
I think pulling the ota is a very good sign. Also the only thing you gave up by not sticking with Asus TF700 is ANRs
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Sorry if if I sound the cynical but I'll believe it when I see it. I've been burned hoping for a promised update before.
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EmerikL said:
Sorry if if I sound the cynical but I'll believe it when I see it. I've been burned hoping for a promised update before.
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Here's the way I look at it.
At the August 15th announcement they declared "by the end of the year;" a self-imposed deadline. They could have been more vague and just said "we plan to update the Note 10.1 to Jelly Bean."
At IFA they said "very soon" rather than "end of the year." Again, why change the terminology and increase expectations when there's no need to?
The Note II for all intents and purposes is a smaller Note 10.1 running the same h/w and s/w (with or without some specific features). The JB ROM its running is obviously complete enough to allow reporters to review it.
There are leaked OEM ROMs out in the wild for the SGS3 which shares the same h/w as the Note(s). The only thing different are the S-Pen and digitizer specific features.
The Note 10.1 and Note II don't compete. There's no reason for Samsung to hold back the Note 10.1's JB update or withhold features.
So when you add it up I'm guessing "very soon" to mean next month somewhere around the time the Note II goes on sale internationally. All just supposition of course.
I agree the note II and the 10.1 do not compete. I personally think they complement each other. I am looking for a phone next year and will probably grab the note II. Without the note 10.1 I would be less likely to buy the note II.
I would also be more likely to grab it if the note 10.1 and note II have methods in place to share S notes and other features.
This is a way for Samsung to differentiate itself from Apple. There is no way you could say the Note II and the 10.1 are copies of the ipad. I think this differentiation is important to Samsung.
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I would also be more likely to grab it if the note 10.1 and note II have methods in place to share S notes and other features.
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The 10.1's S-Note app syncs with either Google docs or Evernote so I'm assuming the Note II's will also. It's a shame the 10.1 doesn't have NFC or we could use S-Beam to share files.
If the samsung doesnt include the new features frome the note2, couldnt it be ported or just copied over if its just software?
Same specs right? Essentially same hardware . Take the cellular modems out and what do you have?
Should be here soon,
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The 10.1's S-Note app syncs with either Google docs or Evernote so I'm assuming the Note II's will also. It's a shame the 10.1 doesn't have NFC or we could use S-Beam to share files.
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We don't have NFC but we do have wifi direct and All share
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They'll definitely be dropping the ball big time if they don't come up with some tighter integration between the 10.1 and the SGN1/2.
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Maybe I was hallucinating... but I could have sworn they were showing a Note 10.1 running JB during the "Unpacking" show.
One comment on that though - how does Samsung manage to put on such a huge, elaborate, flashy video presentation and then plunk some of the least exciting people in front of it.
Also, they have to put some mikes in the audience to catch their reactions - because when they were standing there showing the ultrabooks either their mics weren't working or the audience collectively died.
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then plunk some of the least exciting people in front of it.
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You play the hand your dealt. For all we know those were the good ones. HTC's CEO always looks scared to death at events and Asus' is a raving lunatic.

7 mths old and still no 4.4.3/4.4.4

So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
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So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
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What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
is any Samsung device running 4.4.3? To my understanding the Tab S and Galaxy S5 are still on 4.4.2. The cosmetic updates in 4.4.3 won't be noticed since Touchwiz covers them up anyway. I read Samsung implemented the 4.4.4 security patches in it's own separate firmware updates.
Well, the webview enhancements in 4.4.3 improve performance of any app which uses webview.
Also, pretty sure I saw quite a few mentions of various other Sammy devices getting 4.4.3 firmwares uploaded onto sammobile.com which was starting to irk me.
As long as I get android L I'm happy
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The biggest problem I have with it isn't the lack of an update, but the sluggishness of the OS. It's an octa-core processor with a 1.9gHz clock speed on four of them! Also the Wifi was better on my iPad 2 than on this brand new device!
Should've chosen something with a Quallcom processor, then I could have some decent custom ROMs...
A 4.4.4 update came out yesterday (9/10) for my T-Mobile Galaxy S4, so hopefully that mean it'll come out for the Tab Pro soon. The update does not update the UI. I'm not aware of a 4.4.4 update for other S4 and the S5. I believe T-Mobile pushed the update because it includes a new in-flight (airplane) text function/service they'll advertise next week.
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BarryH_GEG said:
What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
There is NO Galaxy Tab with Android >4.4.2 - so why do you moan they don't care about Tab Pro users when there is no newer version on newer tablets (e.g. Tab S)?
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
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Once Samsung have your money they really don't give a damn about supporting your product.
My Galaxy W (i8150) was abandoned by them within 6 months of release and never received an update from GB to ICS even though similar age and spec models by them did.
The S3 has been dumped at JB 4.3 because they can't fit all their bloatware into the KK ROM.
The TabPRO seems to be EOL after less than a year.....
It's par for the course with Sammy unfortunately - which is why we are lucky to have such an amazing amount of support from Dev's on XDA.
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Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon...
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I don't expect to be able to hold the 4:3 Nexus 8" tablet in one hand, like I do with my Tab Pro 8.4.
I also imagine it won't have an SD Card.
But the regular OS updates to seem tempting.
My hand gets tired very quickly when I try to hold the Tab Pro 8.4 in one hand, so I don't see the Nexus 8 being any different in that regard.
I'm only using 900MB of the 64GB SD Card in my Tab Pro -- 62GB free.
Reason is, there are barely any apps I can move to SD card, and even then there are side-effects like the icon won't stay on my home screen so I end up just moving them back to main memory. Also I have Google All-Access Music so I don't need to keep lots of music on my tablet. And for videos/movies, I use Netflix and PLEX so no need to keep videos locally on the tablet. So obviously, i'd be ok with a Nexus tablet without SD card slot. ( But I would still try to go for a 32GB+ )
Also, i have some minor build quality issues with my Tab Pro 8.4 -- in particular there seems to be some very minor "squeaky/creaky" noises when I touch certain areas of the touch screen or around the bezel. Not a serious issue, mind you, but in contrast both my Nexus S and Nexus 4 have zero build quality issues.
Hey, I saw on twitter today that the "T-Mobile" version of the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) is getting a 4.4.4 update soon!
Good news, right? Becuase it means the GTP version of that firmware update may be coming up soon afterwards. At least for the GTP 10.1" version.
Not sure about the GTP 8.4, it's pretty different from the Note 10.1 ...
I use link2sd app in the playstore great app, been using for a few years now. Native app2sd is not that great
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Just use a custom ROM and you will have a newer version. I have already lost faith in Samsung for their software.
I have a new slogan for Samsung, "It is, what it is". You could follow that with "take it or leave it" I bought my gt p 8.4 with no expectation of any updates. If I get one I will be thrilled.
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I have been rockin with:
Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14) on my T320.
This thing runs almost as good as my Note 3 running Alliance.
I tried the Daydream ROM and it was VERY lite on system storage but it had issues with some of my gaming.
It's nice to re live the good old Game Boy Advance and N64 days on this huge high res screen...
The lack of a OTG USB controller puts my Moga Pro Power to great use.
I use my Note 3 to email the boss to let him know that I cant get to work until the ice melts.
GAME ON ANYWHERE
Is the latest always the greatest?
Not always!
Do you remember SD card disaster with 4.4.x?
Samsung has a great upgrade program. Every time a new version of Android is released, they release a new tablet running it.
But seriously, I'm not too concerned about 4.4.2 to 4.4.4. I would rather they develop a Lollipop release. Fine with me if they take a couple of months to get it right. I'll be needing it on the Tab Pro 8.4 and Note 10.1 (2014).

Android 5.0 Lollipop

Anyone has any news/rumors about lollipop 5.0 for Note 10.1 2014?
Not gonna happen.
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Giulio_tami said:
Anyone has any news/rumors about lollipop 5.0 for Note 10.1 2014?
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As always samsung uses to upgrade devices that is not too popular in 6-7 mounths after the AOSP release.
Lollipop was announced for Note 2, Note 3 and Galaxy S4 by Samsung Finland.
I have hopes we will get Lollipop, at least I'm praying
Sadly I have lost all faith in Samsung and will not purchase another of their products. I realize it's sacrilege around here but I bought myself an Ipad air 2 for Christmas. Being that I'm keeping the note 10.1 (2014) I'll have a good comparison between the two items.
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galaxy note 10.1 2014 lollypop update
Every article I've read says the galaxy note 10.1 2014 will get the lollypop update but it wont be until march or April
edthesped said:
Sadly I have lost all faith in Samsung and will not purchase another of their products. I realize it's sacrilege around here but I bought myself an Ipad air 2 for Christmas. Being that I'm keeping the note 10.1 (2014) I'll have a good comparison between the two items.
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I agree but there is no other android tablet with s pen in that size and prize range.... next best thing is ms surface but that's something else completely.
The thing is, I use the pen for alot of stuff (drawing plans to rearrange our flat for example ) and alot of friends and family are totally intrigued by it. I can't imagine buying a tablet without pen after this... its a must have feature once you're used to it. Sadly there is no real competition...
Nevertheless I'm almost sure there will be a lollipop update for it reasonably soon (2-3 months). Unless samsung releases a note 10.1 2015 in the next 2-3 months then the update could be even later. But remember even the original note 10.1 got updated to KitKat!
It'll probably never happen...
So sick and tired of samsungs crap support. I am also sick of my Note 10.1 2014 just being "good enough" to get tasks done. I only use lecture notes for this tablet to annotate pdfs. With no lollipop in sight, I'm buying a surface pro 3 at the beginning of next semester to replace this tablet and my ultrabook. If i get real desperate for android, I'll use Console OS. Peace out sammy, if you have no interest in supporting your products, neither do I...
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Anyone has any news/rumors about lollipop 5.0 for Note 10.1 2014?
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Lympe said:
Not gonna happen.
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Erai Dev. said:
As always samsung uses to upgrade devices that is not too popular in 6-7 mounths after the AOSP release.
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Lollipop was announced for Note 2, Note 3 and Galaxy S4 by Samsung Finland.
I have hopes we will get Lollipop, at least I'm praying
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edthesped said:
Sadly I have lost all faith in Samsung and will not purchase another of their products. I realize it's sacrilege around here but I bought myself an Ipad air 2 for Christmas. Being that I'm keeping the note 10.1 (2014) I'll have a good comparison between the two items.
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ryan072004 said:
Every article I've read says the galaxy note 10.1 2014 will get the lollypop update but it wont be until march or April
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clouds5 said:
I agree but there is no other android tablet with s pen in that size and prize range.... next best thing is ms surface but that's something else completely.
The thing is, I use the pen for alot of stuff (drawing plans to rearrange our flat for example ) and alot of friends and family are totally intrigued by it. I can't imagine buying a tablet without pen after this... its a must have feature once you're used to it. Sadly there is no real competition...
Nevertheless I'm almost sure there will be a lollipop update for it reasonably soon (2-3 months). Unless samsung releases a note 10.1 2015 in the next 2-3 months then the update could be even later. But remember even the original note 10.1 got updated to KitKat!
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supremekizzle said:
So sick and tired of samsungs crap support. I am also sick of my Note 10.1 2014 just being "good enough" to get tasks done. I only use lecture notes for this tablet to annotate pdfs. With no lollipop in sight, I'm buying a surface pro 3 at the beginning of next semester to replace this tablet and my ultrabook. If i get real desperate for android, I'll use Console OS. Peace out sammy, if you have no interest in supporting your products, neither do I...
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I thought it worth to let you all know that I am using Lollipop on a Samsung Note 2014 10.1(SM-P600) wifi only.
There is a thread on the android original development forum by RaymanFX. Its Cyanogenmod 12 which means its Touchwiz free and KNOX fuse is tripped.
More importantly however its miles ahead of KitKat- touchwiz in terms of responsivenes, snappines and fluidity.
There also is this article http://www.xda-developers.com/android/analysis-of-the-galaxy-note-3-android-5-0-leak/ and if all is well and truly as remarkable with Touchwiz- Lollipop then I would love to see this ported somehow to Samsung Note 2014 10.1(SM-P600) wifi and sister/brother models.
Adding all Apps from Samsung Note Pro 12.2 to such a port would be like phenomenal! I have donated before and would donate again on a project like that.
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This tablet will be updated but it's going to be awhile so relax and enjoy life until then.
http://phandroid.com/2015/01/07/android-versions-january-2015/
If you bought a Samsung tablet and expected much more than 1 update, you're a fool. It's a trade off for superior functionality over the more-update Nexus tablets.
GldRush98 said:
If you bought a Samsung tablet and expected much more than 1 update, you're a fool. It's a trade off for superior functionality over the more-update Nexus tablets.
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I have a Nexus 7 (the first edition). It received the Lollipop update last year and since then is almost useless due to lags and sluggishness. I also got the most recent update (L 5.02) which they claim it fixes N7 lags, but I did not see any improvement. Everything is slow, browsing is slow, booting takes minutes.
With this experience, I have no rush to update my Samsung tablets to Lollipop
Samsung should think about why their sales are going down... l hope this powerful device will get Lolipop but if not I think Samsung will loose aanother buyeri...
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I guess I'm the only one still happy with my Note 10.1 2k14 edition. I'm running a custom ROM. I use the handwriting and s-pen functions quite a lot and don't imagine that I would be happy without those functions. My tablet still functions fine and is nice and responsive (not as fast as my Note 4, but also not as new). I'm really in no hurry for Lollipop on my device. KitKat runs fast and is stable for me.
It's time for Samsung to wake up. This is a modern world. We pay premiums prices for top-rated Samsung phones and tablets, and expect regular updates. We dont need to beg for the updates. The computing world changes rapidly, and samsung should follow suit. It's becoming clearer that Samsung cannot keep up with Google releasing free updates to free android softwares. It's becoming clearer that Samsung Tizen software will eventually be a useless OS.
Just out of curiosity . . Why is getting lollipop so important that people are willing to sell their tablets in shear outrage?
I've got it on my note 3 and in terms of functionality there is very little difference . . .
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SlimJ87D said:
Lollipop was announced for Note 2, Note 3 and Galaxy S4 by Samsung Finland.
I have hopes we will get Lollipop, at least I'm praying
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Samsung Finland ( or other Samsung's section from Nordic Countries) are know for it's fake news ( e. g. Samsung Galaxy S2 Jelly Bean Update). I advise not to trust them
diggedy said:
Just out of curiosity . . Why is getting lollipop so important that people are willing to sell their tablets in shear outrage?
I've got it on my note 3 and in terms of functionality there is very little difference . . .
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Beacuse it's fresh, something new. Most people love these kind of things. + it looks awesome
I want it too
I want an s note that doesn't lag all over the place!
Someone should start a thread "I will never again buy Samsung" If they see how many ppl are not happy with support of high-end products and selling pop-crap Galaxy S line, maybe they finally wake up!

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