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The battery cover is really unique on the device in that is covers alot of the device, especially the parts that are prone to dents and scratches when dropped. If you drop it and hopefully if it doesnt land on the screen side all you really have to do is replace the back cover for probably really cheap (less than $10 i'd imagine on ebay) and you are back to square one! Nice idea motorola! I hope it was intentional.
I think Engadget said the screen was gorilla glass. It shouldn't have any effect if you drop it.
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The battery cover is really unique on the device in that is covers alot of the device, especially the parts that are prone to dents and scratches when dropped. If you drop it and hopefully if it doesnt land on the screen side all you really have to do is replace the back cover for probably really cheap (less than $10 i'd imagine on ebay) and you are back to square one! Nice idea motorola! I hope it was intentional.
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I think Engadget said the screen was gorilla glass. It shouldn't have any effect if you drop it.
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The battery cover is NOT a case - its a battery cover
Dropping any phone with gorilla glass and having it land on the screen can and most likely will break/shatter the screen - its NOT indestructable... it will even scratch.
scratch proof does not mean shock proof.
if the material is harder, it may be scratch proof. In addition, the stiffness is also increased, so the materil is brittle
Hm. Perhaps I was wrong, I saw a video of some guy stabbing a Dell with gorilla glass with a pen and he just wiped the ink off and was still the same.
i agree with the OP... i LOVE the cover design... it rounds around the corner and if ever gets nicked, just get a new battery door.... yeah its kind of a ***** to take off.... but i really dont do that often.... AWESOME battery door design!
you know what, i'd never actually looked at my phone until just now, and i see what you mean. i cant believe i never noticed this
anyone else notice that on a cold day the phone feels like one of those water filoled balloon tubes with a hole in the center and is damn near impossible to move around in one hand without almost juggling it?
AKA: it's damn slippery
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anyone else notice that on a cold day the phone feels like one of those water filoled balloon tubes with a hole in the center and is damn near impossible to move around in one hand without almost juggling it?
AKA: it's damn slippery
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YES! I will be investing in a rubberized case of some sort.
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Nice description. You mean the water balloon torus? Or if that doesnt help, like a elongated donut.
I haven't had trouble with slippage, but I do note that any bit of moisture or food grease really makes it slick. Just keep your hands clean.
I really like the prospect of battery door designs, as well as its ease of replacement in case of scratches. No entirely new body parts, just one battery door.
Took a bad spill as I was walking and looking down at my phone for google maps instead of noticing the jagged piece of concrete sticking up. Tripped and fell face first with the phone absorbing most of the shock still in my palm.
I fully expected after letting off a string of curse words that the screen would be shattered on my 2 week old G2, however all the damage is on the brushed metal bezel itself. I do have some deep chips and dents in my otherwise new phone, and they look awful.
What are my options for restoring or at least cleaning up these scratches and dents? I am not opposed to a few hours of elbow grease nor am I opposed to a 400-800-1200-2000-4000 grit sanding down and polishing. Has anyone successfully done this? Also I am worried about the digitizer getting scratched during my sanding.
I need options, I typically swap phones about once a year and I always keep every phone I have in pristine condition. Funny part is my phone's body kit / armor was in the mail and arrived the next day.
I also have experience with repairing cell phones, can I buy the metal bezel and replace it that way?
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Took a bad spill as I was walking and looking down at my phone for google maps instead of noticing the jagged piece of concrete sticking up. Tripped and fell face first with the phone absorbing most of the shock still in my palm.
I fully expected after letting off a string of curse words that the screen would be shattered on my 2 week old G2, however all the damage is on the brushed metal bezel itself. I do have some deep chips and dents in my otherwise new phone, and they look awful.
What are my options for restoring or at least cleaning up these scratches and dents? I am not opposed to a few hours of elbow grease nor am I opposed to a 400-800-1200-2000-4000 grit sanding down and polishing. Has anyone successfully done this? Also I am worried about the digitizer getting scratched during my sanding.
I need options, I typically swap phones about once a year and I always keep every phone I have in pristine condition. Funny part is my phone's body kit / armor was in the mail and arrived the next day.
I also have experience with repairing cell phones, can I buy the metal bezel and replace it that way?
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Take it apart, sand with progressively finer sand paper, polish, reassemble.
I just noticed a few scratches that I'll have to live with.. Maybe I'll have to buy a case now (thought going naked would have been fine)
I know there are plenty of topic on this, but most cover actual defects.
Btw, just wanted to say that I LOVE this device. No way I'm returning. Not even this unit! Can't! Spent soo much time customizing it, and even the benchmarks are slightly above average
Anyway... My problem right now is the chamfered edges and the bottom speaker grill.
The silver One is susceptible to the same amount of scratches as the Black One, albeit they won't be as prominent on the silver variant.
The unit I'm talking about is actually a replacement. The first One I owned had defects, but even for the short time I had it, it somehow managed to build a few dents and scuffs on the chamfered edge up at the top speaker grill.
This time, the problem's on the bottom! I have a few scuffs on the bottom chamfered edge... It's been 4 days in my possession, and already is growing hits and dings. Now here's the interesting part.. As a university student, school's out and the phone has pretty much left the house only once! Other days it laid either in my hand, on my pocket, or on the floor right by my bed.
I looked at it and thought that maybe I can polish them when they get worse.. But things took a turn for the worse right away!! As I was examining the scuffs on the edge, I came across a hairline scratch that extended from the bottom of the lower speaker grill to the top (of the speaker grill) -- almost like a crack -- a hairline crack. Looks as if a pencil lightly went over it.
I've attached photos for your viewing pleasure, but as minor as they appear, note that it's only been about 4 days!! I'm wondering what'll come out of it over an extended period of use.. Guess I can live with whatever has happened to date though =]
*please note that the images aren't too good a representation of the actual damage to the device. It's slightly worse in person -- the abundance of light blurs the scratches a bit.
Arghhh the photos have since showed less of the damage as I had to resize the images to 640* 425 (instead of 4288 * 2848 )
To me, it's just like a dead pixel. You can't tell it's there in normal use, but once you find it, it'll haunt you for a while. At one point you won't care.. But when you see it again, you'll start kicking yourself.
I've been babying my phone, but I think it's time for me to go up onto Amazon and buy myself a good case. *flies to look at the Accessories forum*
Any of you folks keeping your phone naked experience any unexplained scuffs and nicks on your edges? Scratches on your speaker grill?
You guys think that we'd be able to -- at some point -- replace the speaker grills with OEM parts? I'm sure people will come across much worse problems...
No matter what device, what manufacture or what materials the device is made out of, if you don't use a case, this will happen and worst. Your scratches are barely visible. I had to zoom in the picture to see them.
I don't have the device yet but I already have 3 cases for it and a pack of screen protectors. The official flip case and 2 tpu s line cases, one black and one clear.
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I agree. I guess it's just that I'm bummed it happened so soon!
I'll learn to live with this. I don;t think I'm ready for a case just yet. The cases I've seen so far don't look too good and add way too much bulk. The slimmer ones don't cover the top and bottom chamfered edges...
I'll keep looking. I do have full body screen protection, except it only covers the screen itself and the rear of the device. Speaker grills (understandably) are left to be in the open
Did you check the phone over when you got it? Just asking as I've seen a one or two with some nicks and scratches out of the box I'm guessing it happened when polishing the chamfered edge.
Man, how do you use your phone to manage to put these scratches and dents.
I have had the phone since last Friday with daily use and no scratches, I just put a skinomi clear film in the back to protect against scratches and dents, the front is naked, looks beautiful, you don't even notice the film is there
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I have films on the back and front of the device myself!
I honestly do not know where these came from. It's been on my desk or on the floor by my bed. Hasn't left the house -- maybe just once..
Anyway I attached another saddening photo. This was taken with my old Atrix.
I'm thinking that this may have been a result of missing the charging port and accidentally sliding the micro usb plug into the front of the phone while I was half asleep...
Anyway, I'm sitting here and there's much greater things to worry about. It could have been much worse... A random scratch on the screen or a deeper nick...
Besides, the bottom speaker grill is a separate piece and if it continues to get scratched up and continues to bother me, I'll just see if i can get it replaced..
Hope I actually move on. This is the same feeling as when I found a dent on my $700 guitar.. I got over that. So ill probably get high over this
Aha I'm wondering what it'll feel like when I find a small scratch on my first new car -_-... Boy will I be a mess!
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Aluminum is a soft metal, unlike titanium or other harder metals. They chose aluminum because it is light weight.
So do you think black is more durable? I'm going to buy One today so I might considering buying black instead if thats the case.
Btw usually stratches goes away when wiped properly. At least do on my black One S. Dents, however, stays forever.
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Aluminum is a soft metal, unlike titanium or other harder metals. They chose aluminum because it is light weight.
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Yep. But I'm hoping that maybe next year they make the switch to a harder metal like steel... The OPPO Find 5 allegedly has a steel frame construction. Sure it's heavy, but if they get the right look, whatever! Durability should be of more importance than weight..
Now if it does weigh too much, maybe implement the steel construction only around certain areas...
I'm aware this will pull up costs, but the device would be that much better!
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So do you think black is more durable? I'm going to buy One today so I might considering buying black instead if thats the case.
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There's another thread about scuffs on the black edition. Maybe I've got too far... You can't see this if you're not looking for them, but to me they'll always be there.
I've seen multiple accounts of folks on here see through their black paint into the aluminum underneath.. You'd want to avoid that.. So I don't regret having the silver edition.
They both scratch the same amount, but the black shows more..
Good luck and I hope you enjoy your One just as much as I am!
Choose the device that also to you more! If you like the stealthy black, but that! But if you do, go for the Poetic Atmosphere case.. Looks pretty nice on the black variant.. The silver one.. Not so much.
Still going to look for a case, but it isn't my priority.. I'd rather keep the phone naked and enjoy the cool feel everyone I touch it in the morning!
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Btw usually stratches goes away when wiped properly. At least do on my black One S. Dents, however, stays forever.
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I've wipes this, took a moist set of wipes below the actual holes, but nothing. There is a scratch, not a surface scratch, it's slightly deeper.
100% sure this ain't going away.. But i haven't lost all hope! As this phone e grows in popularity, some ebay sellers will manage to get their hands on some grills and they should be replaced rather easily since they're in there only via an adhesive. Would have been more ticked off if it was on the screen, on the chamfered edge off of the back, or even on the back itself..
Here's hoping the grills are replaceable and I can do something about it in maybe 6 months!
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I had mine with no case for almost 1 week and not a single scratch
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No idea what to say. I'm keeping it naked. Maybe this was from the factory.. I don't see how you can get a scratch from the bottom to the top of a grill without taking your phone out much...
Maybe I didn't notice this before, but i still am worried about the durability of the device. If pocketnow reports bad durability, then I've got no option but to go with a case. Right now i dont even know where these came from.. No sand in my room, no hard metals that would easily scratch anodized aluminum..
It really IS a mystery...
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yes the part which worries me the most is the possibility of hardshell covers actuall doing damage as you attempt to place them
this is why HTC's own double flip / dip are actually a lot softer to install
this exactly why im sticking to slim transparent rubber covers
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yes the part which worries me the most is the possibility of hardshell covers actuall doing damage as you attempt to place them
this is why HTC's own double flip / dip are actually a lot softer to install
this exactly why im sticking to slim transparent rubber covers
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Tell me about it! When I bought snap on cases for my Atrix, the plastic around the phone was soo scuffed it actually looks nasty without a case. Definitely not making that mistake again!
I don't think tpu or hardshell plastic cases can really damage the aluminum bezel as aluminum is harder..
But it's still something I worry about and a case like the one you linked to is just perfect.
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Tell me about it! When I bought snap on cases for my Atrix, the plastic around the phone was soo scuffed it actually looks nasty without a case. Definitely not making that mistake again!
I don't think tpu or hardshell plastic cases can really damage the aluminum bezel as aluminum is harder..
But it's still something I worry about and a case like the one you linked to is just perfect.
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it's not the aluminum i'm worried about
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Oh Crap. Overlooked that!
Wow..
Kay so time to look for a similar case to the one you've got
I want to keep the beauty of the HTC One visible while still protecting it from further scratches...
Everything over on the accessories forum doesn't really cut it go me :/...
I'll go to this mall that pretty much just sells phone cases and phones. Hopefully I find a store that has what I want for a reasonable price
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I agree. I guess it's just that I'm bummed it happened so soon!
I'll learn to live with this. I don;t think I'm ready for a case just yet. The cases I've seen so far don't look too good and add way too much bulk. The slimmer ones don't cover the top and bottom chamfered edges...
I'll keep looking. I do have full body screen protection, except it only covers the screen itself and the rear of the device. Speaker grills (understandably) are left to be in the open
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Probably the thinnest, plastic case around. does not add bulk like otter cases do. you should check it out...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Platinu...&st=platinum series case htc one m7&cp=1&lp=1
Also, it's aluminum. Whoever thinks aluminum, a softer metal, won't scratch, is lying to themselves.
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yes the part which worries me the most is the possibility of hardshell covers actuall doing damage as you attempt to place them
this is why HTC's own double flip / dip are actually a lot softer to install
this exactly why im sticking to slim transparent rubber covers
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I feel you but the cheap TPU's will scratch phones too. Only cases I have found to never ever scratch a phone are Otterbox has a combo silicone tpu which is very soft and nonabrasive unlike normal tpu. Capdase Aluminum cases they are soft touch silicone on the inside will never ever scratch. And last my old friend Incipio their double layer cases have a soft touch silicone also that will not scratch the phone.
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I feel you but the cheap TPU's will scratch phones too. Only cases I have found to never ever scratch a phone are Otterbox has a combo silicone tpu which is very soft and nonabrasive unlike normal tpu. Capdase Aluminum cases they are soft touch silicone on the inside will never ever scratch. And last my old friend Incipio their double layer cases have a soft touch silicone also that will not scratch the phone.
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how will a rubbery cover scratch it? you mean if it falls?
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how will a rubbery cover scratch it? you mean if it falls?
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No TPU is not rubbery its more like flexible hard plastic. If the case fits well the TPU material will scratch the phone from taking it off putting it back too much. If anything get in between the phone and the case game over it's almost worse than naked. It's sold as rubber like or soft but I have 20 different TPU cases and all are the same crap. Otterbox and the others I mentioned use silicone which is like a soft rubber. TPU is a cheap is injected crappy material that is why you will find cases as low as $5 or lower.
At approximately 1:30 PM today, my phone teamed up with the force of gravity to conspire against me. The unfortunate chain of events began when I decided to employ the services of a spare sock as a surrogate phone case, as I have yet to acquire my free case from Clove. Turns out the phone is as slippery as a snake in oil when cradled by nothing more than the downy comfort of a quality walking sock. The inherent danger is further exacerbated when exiting a car in a cheerful and care free manor. This is all it took for my 26 and half hours of fun filled ownership to come to an end. Its not all bad news though, as the thing luckily landed face down and received nothing more than superficial chipping. I see it as character building, and I think its learnt its lesson.
I'm now considering other case options.
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At approximately 1:30 PM today, my phone teamed up with the force of gravity to conspire against me. The unfortunate chain of events began when I decided to employ the services of a spare sock as a surrogate phone case, as I have yet to acquire my free case from Clove. Turns out the phone is as slippery as a snake in oil when cradled by nothing more than the downy comfort of a quality walking sock. The inherent danger is further exacerbated when exiting a car in a cheerful and care free manor. This is all it took for my 26 and half hours of fun filled ownership to come to an end. Its not all bad news though, as the thing luckily landed face down and received nothing more than superficial chipping. I see it as character building, and I think its learnt its lesson.
I'm now considering other case options.
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Good thing the glass held up! :good::laugh:
I assume the phone is only slippery to the sock, not so much to the skin?
I had a screen protector on and that took a few scuffs, I've removed it now. It does seem a little slippery with the glass back but it's a good size to grip in the hand anyway, and I'd still use a case unless your very careful. Yes the phone and the sock is like the rat and the goose, never mix the two.
Hmm, I've just seen a report of someone who had his Z3C screen crack from a couch-height drop onto laminate parquet. http://www.androidauthority.com/community/threads/sony-xperia-z3-drop-test.9638/#post-31182
I've also seen a report of the screen cracking by itself in the front pocket, after sitting down. So far this is the second (published) self-cracking report. http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/find/poster/623785/messages
In both of these cases, the upper half of the touch screen is apparently not responsive anymore.
I've dropped all my Sony phones a ridiculous amount of times, my wifes z1c hits the ground on a daily basis due to our kids. We've never had a screen crack. I don't think the z3c, which has very similar dimensions, will be any more prone to cracking unless the glass manufacturer delivered faulty parts.
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I've dropped all my Sony phones a ridiculous amount of times, my wifes z1c hits the ground on a daily basis due to our kids. We've never had a screen crack. I don't think the z3c, which has very similar dimensions, will be any more prone to cracking unless the glass manufacturer delivered faulty parts.
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I'm interested, does the glass on the Z1C lay slightly deeper than the frame, level with the frame, or does it stick out from the frame? On the z3c the glass is said to stick out from the frame very slightly, but that would indeed make the glass a lot more prone to cracking as opposed to glass that sits slightly deeper than the frame.
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I'm interested, does the glass on the Z1C lay slightly deeper than the frame, level with the frame, or does it stick out from the frame? On the z3c the glass is said to stick out from the frame very slightly, but that would indeed make the glass a lot more prone to cracking as opposed to glass that sits slightly deeper than the frame.
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Hopefully my z3c comes tomorrow, I will let you know then.
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Hopefully my z3c comes tomorrow, I will let you know then.
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Alright. But can you tell me about the glass on the Z1 Compact? Is it sunken in, flush, or protruding?
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I've dropped all my Sony phones a ridiculous amount of times, my wifes z1c hits the ground on a daily basis due to our kids. We've never had a screen crack. I don't think the z3c, which has very similar dimensions, will be any more prone to cracking unless the glass manufacturer delivered faulty parts.
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Keep in mind that the Z1C has a plastic back while the Z3C has glass on both sides, so the latter will have a much higher chance of the point of impact being glass.
On my Z3 compact the glass isn't flush with the all of the frame. On the front side the screen is slightly sunken compared with the left and right side of the frame. The rest (front and back) is flush.
Mine is arrived yesterday morning, having to work all day so I just opened it around 11pm...after 10 mins, I was cooking, left it on the microwave and it managed to slip down on the counter and then on the hard floor of the kitchen face down.... I felt like had to kill myself, but not a single scratch, I've been very lucky
When mine made it's leap for freedom from it's cozy sock tent it landed face down on onto stone chips on the driveway. It probably took the brunt of the force on about 5 or 6 points of contact, chipping the metal frame and it also looked like the the screen was chipped in about 4 places. On removing the screen protector the glass was still perfect. I'm convinced that if the protector hadn't been on there the glass would have chipped.
The free protector though does dull the screen somewhat, so I'd recommend that if someone doesn't want to use a case, that a good quality screen protector (front & back) is a must. Maybe those high quality glass (as opposed to plastic) ones will be available soon.
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When mine made it's leap for freedom from it's cozy sock tent it landed face down on onto stone chips on the driveway. It probably took the brunt of the force on about 5 or 6 points of contact, chipping the metal frame and it also looked like the the screen was chipped in about 4 places. On removing the screen protector the glass was still perfect. I'm convinced that if the protector hadn't been on there the glass would have chipped.
The free protector though does dull the screen somewhat, so I'd recommend that if someone doesn't want to use a case, that a good quality screen protector (front & back) is a must. Maybe those high quality glass (as opposed to plastic) ones will be available soon.
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The frame is metal?
There's a thin band that goes around the glass at the front & back, I'm assuming this is metal, it would make sense to build it that way & not have glass held in place by plastic. Certainly the whole rest of the frame is plastic.
I don't want to chip it any further just to test my theory though. :silly:
The back glass on mine has cracked today too, only a day after I received it
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There's a thin band that goes around the glass at the front & back, I'm assuming this is metal, it would make sense to build it that way & not have glass held in place by plastic. Certainly the whole rest of the frame is plastic.
I don't want to chip it any further just to test my theory though. :silly:
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Does it feel particularly cold, like metal? My Xperia Acro S has a similar kind of band around the glass, but it's plastic. It never chipped though, despite having it dropped on hard floors multiple times. I think Sony chose a material that is easily chipped in order for them to prove "abuse" more easily.
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I've had mine a couple of days, and am to frighted to use it, it looks very fragile after my blackberry, the ports are crazy flimsy, I won't use it until I get a really good case, first impressions are that it will easy break, maybe I should send it back and stick to my reliable blackberry. So sorry to hear about the phone drops, it scares me to use mine.
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The back glass on mine has cracked today too, only a day after I received it
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The back glass on mine has cracked today too, only a day after I received it
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How did it happen?
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How this happen?
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It slipped off the arm of the sofa about 2 feet into a wooden floor. It's very slippy and it certainly needs a case I've never had this happen on a phone before.
I am not having any glass cracking problems so far. The only negative in the build quality of z3c for me are the plastic edges, especially the narrow line between the glass and translucent edges. The lines got scratched even from putting a case on the phone. After 1 month of using a hard plastic case I got the edges of the phone pretty damaged. However I have found a simple solution to make the edges smooth again. Used a very soft steel wool to make it look like new again. However you have to be really careful and cover your screen doing this...
Agreed - I would also say that the back picks up scratches pretty easily but as someone who likes to use their phone naked (apart from and back glass screen protectors) this is my main build quality gripe.
Many thanks for the soft steel wool tip, I've just ordered some! Also got a bumper case on the way - I'd have preferred to not use one but the plastic they've used for the z3c seems to be softer than that used in the z1c. I did have some dings on the side of that phone but they were the result of harder impacts.
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... However I have found a simple solution to make the edges smooth again. Used a very soft steel wool to make it look like new again. However you have to be really careful and cover your screen doing this...
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Thanks for the trick ^^ I'll keep that in mind in case
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Where did you buy the steel wool and can it also fix my scrathed metal edge on my sony z3
Unfortunetely, Im an expert in this case as well... I scratched mine walking out of the shop, where I bought this phone, yes the same day just a few minutes after takin it. I picked up the white one Z3C and after falling some black dots stayed. I was so unhappy, because all of my phones looks brilliant, like a brand new phones after a year of using (S Z Z1 Z2). This time was different. As I said, it had been driving me crazy so I sold that phone and bought a new one, white again. This time I ordered the gel case first, and I recommend you guys do the same before buying. Just a little smart tip for you, I might be saving your life right now
But yes... the place you described scratches easily. Confirmed.