At approximately 1:30 PM today, my phone teamed up with the force of gravity to conspire against me. The unfortunate chain of events began when I decided to employ the services of a spare sock as a surrogate phone case, as I have yet to acquire my free case from Clove. Turns out the phone is as slippery as a snake in oil when cradled by nothing more than the downy comfort of a quality walking sock. The inherent danger is further exacerbated when exiting a car in a cheerful and care free manor. This is all it took for my 26 and half hours of fun filled ownership to come to an end. Its not all bad news though, as the thing luckily landed face down and received nothing more than superficial chipping. I see it as character building, and I think its learnt its lesson.
I'm now considering other case options.
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At approximately 1:30 PM today, my phone teamed up with the force of gravity to conspire against me. The unfortunate chain of events began when I decided to employ the services of a spare sock as a surrogate phone case, as I have yet to acquire my free case from Clove. Turns out the phone is as slippery as a snake in oil when cradled by nothing more than the downy comfort of a quality walking sock. The inherent danger is further exacerbated when exiting a car in a cheerful and care free manor. This is all it took for my 26 and half hours of fun filled ownership to come to an end. Its not all bad news though, as the thing luckily landed face down and received nothing more than superficial chipping. I see it as character building, and I think its learnt its lesson.
I'm now considering other case options.
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Good thing the glass held up! :good::laugh:
I assume the phone is only slippery to the sock, not so much to the skin?
I had a screen protector on and that took a few scuffs, I've removed it now. It does seem a little slippery with the glass back but it's a good size to grip in the hand anyway, and I'd still use a case unless your very careful. Yes the phone and the sock is like the rat and the goose, never mix the two.
Hmm, I've just seen a report of someone who had his Z3C screen crack from a couch-height drop onto laminate parquet. http://www.androidauthority.com/community/threads/sony-xperia-z3-drop-test.9638/#post-31182
I've also seen a report of the screen cracking by itself in the front pocket, after sitting down. So far this is the second (published) self-cracking report. http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/find/poster/623785/messages
In both of these cases, the upper half of the touch screen is apparently not responsive anymore.
I've dropped all my Sony phones a ridiculous amount of times, my wifes z1c hits the ground on a daily basis due to our kids. We've never had a screen crack. I don't think the z3c, which has very similar dimensions, will be any more prone to cracking unless the glass manufacturer delivered faulty parts.
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I've dropped all my Sony phones a ridiculous amount of times, my wifes z1c hits the ground on a daily basis due to our kids. We've never had a screen crack. I don't think the z3c, which has very similar dimensions, will be any more prone to cracking unless the glass manufacturer delivered faulty parts.
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I'm interested, does the glass on the Z1C lay slightly deeper than the frame, level with the frame, or does it stick out from the frame? On the z3c the glass is said to stick out from the frame very slightly, but that would indeed make the glass a lot more prone to cracking as opposed to glass that sits slightly deeper than the frame.
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I'm interested, does the glass on the Z1C lay slightly deeper than the frame, level with the frame, or does it stick out from the frame? On the z3c the glass is said to stick out from the frame very slightly, but that would indeed make the glass a lot more prone to cracking as opposed to glass that sits slightly deeper than the frame.
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Hopefully my z3c comes tomorrow, I will let you know then.
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Hopefully my z3c comes tomorrow, I will let you know then.
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Alright. But can you tell me about the glass on the Z1 Compact? Is it sunken in, flush, or protruding?
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Keep in mind that the Z1C has a plastic back while the Z3C has glass on both sides, so the latter will have a much higher chance of the point of impact being glass.
On my Z3 compact the glass isn't flush with the all of the frame. On the front side the screen is slightly sunken compared with the left and right side of the frame. The rest (front and back) is flush.
Mine is arrived yesterday morning, having to work all day so I just opened it around 11pm...after 10 mins, I was cooking, left it on the microwave and it managed to slip down on the counter and then on the hard floor of the kitchen face down.... I felt like had to kill myself, but not a single scratch, I've been very lucky
When mine made it's leap for freedom from it's cozy sock tent it landed face down on onto stone chips on the driveway. It probably took the brunt of the force on about 5 or 6 points of contact, chipping the metal frame and it also looked like the the screen was chipped in about 4 places. On removing the screen protector the glass was still perfect. I'm convinced that if the protector hadn't been on there the glass would have chipped.
The free protector though does dull the screen somewhat, so I'd recommend that if someone doesn't want to use a case, that a good quality screen protector (front & back) is a must. Maybe those high quality glass (as opposed to plastic) ones will be available soon.
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When mine made it's leap for freedom from it's cozy sock tent it landed face down on onto stone chips on the driveway. It probably took the brunt of the force on about 5 or 6 points of contact, chipping the metal frame and it also looked like the the screen was chipped in about 4 places. On removing the screen protector the glass was still perfect. I'm convinced that if the protector hadn't been on there the glass would have chipped.
The free protector though does dull the screen somewhat, so I'd recommend that if someone doesn't want to use a case, that a good quality screen protector (front & back) is a must. Maybe those high quality glass (as opposed to plastic) ones will be available soon.
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The frame is metal?
There's a thin band that goes around the glass at the front & back, I'm assuming this is metal, it would make sense to build it that way & not have glass held in place by plastic. Certainly the whole rest of the frame is plastic.
I don't want to chip it any further just to test my theory though. :silly:
The back glass on mine has cracked today too, only a day after I received it
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There's a thin band that goes around the glass at the front & back, I'm assuming this is metal, it would make sense to build it that way & not have glass held in place by plastic. Certainly the whole rest of the frame is plastic.
I don't want to chip it any further just to test my theory though. :silly:
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Does it feel particularly cold, like metal? My Xperia Acro S has a similar kind of band around the glass, but it's plastic. It never chipped though, despite having it dropped on hard floors multiple times. I think Sony chose a material that is easily chipped in order for them to prove "abuse" more easily.
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I've had mine a couple of days, and am to frighted to use it, it looks very fragile after my blackberry, the ports are crazy flimsy, I won't use it until I get a really good case, first impressions are that it will easy break, maybe I should send it back and stick to my reliable blackberry. So sorry to hear about the phone drops, it scares me to use mine.
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The back glass on mine has cracked today too, only a day after I received it
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How this happen?
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The back glass on mine has cracked today too, only a day after I received it
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How did it happen?
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How this happen?
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It slipped off the arm of the sofa about 2 feet into a wooden floor. It's very slippy and it certainly needs a case I've never had this happen on a phone before.
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I dropped my GS2 on a gravel road from about chest high, glass side down. I picked it up and the screen was completely dusty and horrible looking and I said UhOh. I got a microfiber cloth and wiped off the phone after blowing as much as possible of the screen. Got it all wiped off, and in direct sunlight at every angle, not a single scratch, blemish, pit, nothing lol. I have a slim gel on the phone, but the screen is naked. Whew!
Cool!
Peep peep.
It's called Gorilla Glass for a reason - gorillas are well known for their high resistance to being dropped by humans onto gravel.
I liked that someone experimented with Gorilla Glass
Swore I was going to read chest pains followed by back to back heart attacks until death.
Glad to hear it's ok.
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It's called Gorilla Glass for a reason - gorillas are well known for their high resistance to being dropped by humans onto gravel.
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WINNING ^^
Yeah I decided to forego the cases and the screen protectors after seeing some videos (not produced by screen protector sellers).
I was using Reallook but it got to slimy and even carrying the phone in my pocket with keys, only the plastic edges gets a little nicked. My Captivate's screen never had a scratch and I am the most un anal person when it comes to worrying about scratches on the body of the handset. Under everyday conditions the glass really is scratch resistant and I would say scratch proof in a pocket with keys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dw04tNgpA&NR=1
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVxj6gRYwS0&feature=related
I was expecting more from this thread.
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I've seen reports of screens cracked, so i wouldn't jump for joy just cause someone got lucky and his screen is still intact after dropping the phone. Also reports of scratches on the screen. So i advice people not to start playing football with their SII after reading this thread
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I've seen reports of screens cracked, so i wouldn't jump for joy just cause someone got lucky and his screen is still intact after dropping the phone. Also reports of scratches on the screen. So i advice people not to start playing football with their SII after reading this thread
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+1. Dropping your phone to confirm its.durability is not big or clever.
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yes i got lucky, and could of also put a weak spot in the glass, and the next drop might not be so lucky.
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yes i got lucky, and could of also put a weak spot in the glass, and the next drop might not be so lucky.
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Gorilla glass is good stuff......The "screen protector" makers are so scared of it they are posting questionable videos on YouTube of how "easy" it is to scratch. "fear" is a great advertising tactic and sells a lot of things. In fact the glass is amazingly resistant to scratching.
I would be more worried about the interior circuitry shock on a drop than the glass.
As long as HTC is in business, the screen protector people will be too. You can look at an HTC screen wrong and scratch it.
You are very lucky. Its a different story if you drop it in the sea or fall in with it in your pocket
Put it this way I've got a very expensive piece of gorilla glass for a coaster. Ohh and a spare battery that I'm too scared to use :-(
I must admit I got a zagg invisishield screen protector and it is awful. Wonder why they bothered ohh try money.
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I dropped a galaxy S1 from about waist high onto concrete. it bounced about 5 times before come to rest face down.
The LCD screen under the glass was cracked into 20 different pieces. But the glass itself - not even a single scratch. You had to hold at it an angle to see the broken lcd pieces. So while the gorilla glass is strong, the screen inside itself is pretty flaky, so dont be droppin it!
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I dropped a galaxy S1 from about waist high onto concrete. it bounced about 5 times before come to rest face down.
The LCD screen under the glass was cracked into 20 different pieces. But the glass itself - not even a single scratch. You had to hold at it an angle to see the broken lcd pieces. So while the gorilla glass is strong, the screen inside itself is pretty flaky, so dont be droppin it!
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Yeah Thats what I am talking about....The glass is like Pyrex...maybe even stronger. The interior parts are the issue with drops. That's where those thick soft silicone cases help out but I don't care for cases as the ones that could really protect the phone make it too bulky and the thin cases are a waste and only prevent scratches and nicks around the edges. I don;t worry about those. Never used the same phone for more than a couple years if that long. The back cover can be folded in half and if ever needed replaced easily.
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As long as HTC is in business, the screen protector people will be too. You can look at an HTC screen wrong and scratch it.
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That's nonsense, they scratch just as easily as the sgs2, I will let you decide how easily that is since most htc devices also use gorilla glass
As per the title.
I wouldn't mind, but I haven't been abusing the phone in any way. It has not been dropped, bumped in to or had anything placed or dropped on the screen. It has always been placed in a pouch after use and there is nothing inside the pouch that could scratch or chip it. But there it is, 1cm below the 'S' in Samsung - a 1mm diameter chip on the screen. It wasn't there yesterday, but it's there today.
I phoned Orange and told them, expecting to be told to take a running jump, but they are delivering a replacement handset to me tomorrow, so that is one bit of good news for me. A screen protector will then be applied ASAP!
Is this screen, purportedly made from Gorilla Glass, generally just ridiculously easy to chip and/or scratch? Or have I just been very unlucky? Or is Gorilla Glass just generally **** (which is the conclusion I am being drawn to after hearing plenty of scare stories regarding the latest HTC phones, and seeing a colleagues Desire S which is absolutely chipped and scratched to buggery)?
It's strange, but I've come from a HTC Desire after 18 months with no screen protector having ever been applied and being kept in a similar pouch to my GS2, and there isn't a mark on the screen...
Bizzare, i have mine a good few months now and have dropped it twice and it's fine, granted i have a case and a screen protector but i was hammered drunk the weekend and took my phone out of my pocket to answer a call in a crowded bar and someone barged by and the phone went out of my hand onto the floor face down, cue me picked it up and not a scratch on it so i have no idea what happened to yours mate for a phone so slim it's amazing, one only has to look at this video.
That can only be unlucky, I dropped mine down a flight of stairs in a pub and watched as it went like a £400 slinky with only a £3 ebay case to protect it and it was fine. The screen is pretty tough.
I've beat mind to death since release and nothing noticeable.
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Sounds like a manufacturing defect in the glass more than anything else.
Its probably a good idea to use screen protectors and some form of a case to anyone else reading this that hasn't bottom one yet.
I'm not trying to be the "I told you so guy" (I hate people like that) but I was in the same situation as OP myself using a different phone, and I'd like to save someone else from suffering the same fate...
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Sounds like a manufacturing defect in the glass more than anything else.
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I'm inclined to agree. The phone certainly hasn't been mistreated in any way, so I can't think of any other reason for it to appear.
Dropped my phone yesterday onto solid flooring tiles at work and it just bounced a few times and not an issue.
It's a plus of the plastic used IMO. Yes it feels tacky but it's damn strong and absorbs force extremely well. Weight also helps.
I had my Galaxy Ace get a scratch in the top-left corner about .8cm long. Sure, Gorilla Glass seems more resistant to minor scratches you get from being in a pocket, but it's by no means invincible.
I scratched my screen on the 2nd day of having it just by it being in my jean pocket on its own. Since that I always put it in a soft case if I'm wearing jeans, but still managed to get another one in roughly the same place... I had my Desire for about 16 months and dropped it many times and no scratches on the screen lol typical. Can only see the scratches if I look for them though so not too bad.
defected glass is the biggest possibility. My GS2 unknownly got out of my pocket when I was sitting, but no scratch at all
Gorilla glass should have a somewhat higher surface hardness, that's all. Nothing magical about it, except the hype.
And increasing surface hardness usually makes a material more brittle, meaning it chips and cracks more easily (and dramatically).
You can't have it all...
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Whether or not a gorilla glass, i always prefer to apply an invisible shield by zagg, as soon as i take out the phone off its box. I have seen the result and its tremendous.
One phone had shattered glass but because invisible shield was applied, touch screen was still usable and one phone fell off from about 10 feet hight and nothing happened to it as because of the same.
Just my two cents.
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my phones bn gud past 3 months.. i think u r "careless" bro
I also chipped my screen.. I had a bottle opener on my car keys and forgot which pocket 2 put them in. So they can get scratched quite easily although the chip is tiny. I think a pocket pouch would probably have prevented this. I love the slipperyness of the screen and will never cover it.
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i actually have had the same thing happen to mine.mine cracked above the ear piece to the out side edge where the glass is at its thinnest point.i have a case and it hasnt been dropped.almost as if it was point loaded from underside of glass.pissed me off as i imported my phone on release.just learnt to live with it
Hey guys,
I have a Z3C. Love the phone obviously. It's awesome. I had my phone on the top of my desk, it fell to my keyboard tray maybe 6 inches lower and the screen shattered. I've read on the web that similar durability issues plague the Z3C. I'm wondering if your experiences with the Z3 have been similar. Can the Z3 withstand minimal abuse like what killed my Z3C, or it is similarly susceptible? Thanks
I've dropped my Z3 about 5 times already including on tile and asphalt and its not even scratched... Probably has to do with the plastic / rubber corners, does the compact design have that?
I've dropped my Z3 over five times and the glass is in perfect condition. I had tempered glass on for two of the attempts it fell and only the nilken tempered glass shattered. The nylon corner bumps work pretty well in ensuring that the Z3 is durable and shatter resistant. Although I did get scared at first (hence why I bought the tempered glass), my worries were completely unfounded and my Z3 is still in perfect condition (aside for small marks on the nylon corners).
I would say that if you drop the phone flat on the ground with the glass hitting the ground first, you will probably suffer. If you are planning to replace it, get a case to feel more secure. Otherwise, if you want to keep the aesthetics of the phone, get a tempered glass and you can feel at ease.
I've dropped mine numerous times and it survived. Keeping it in my back pocket broke the glass...
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As my luck has it, the first three days of my Z3 in my ownership saw it fall at least 5 times, two of them from a desk's height and on the floor tiles. It only sufferd minimal nicks on the bronze finish, nothing else. Can't wait for the tempered glass and the TPU case I ordered alongside the phone to arrive...
It's crazy... most of my friends have galaxy phones and they've had so many cracked screens issue. In 4 smartphones I've owned, starting with LG G2x, and Z, Z1S, and now Z3, my phones have never cracked. I also use no case.
Guess i'm lucky?
Mine has come through a couple of drops unscathed, dropped from hip height on marble with no case, only standard screen protector
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No cracks but I got a pretty big scratch on the screen within my first week and I never ever put it in a pocket or in a bag with other items. Since then I got one of the nillkin glass screen protectors. Not a scratch on it and I'm far less careful with it now. Why couldn't Sony just use the glass Nillkin uses?
I wonder if I can pay Sony to replace my screen down the line for a fee. Then I wouldn't worry so much.
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I dropped mine from a chair onto a patio which is like concrete and apparently hit the corner of the phone. It cracked the corner of the back glass about an inch radially. I used some glass glue and covered it up. Its fine now still waterproof.
Sony's lame, the back should have been carbon fiber for shock proofing and the edges should have ridges for grip. When I first got it it was so slippery it was ridiculous.
Funny enough, 5 minutes after I cracked the back somebody gave me a really nice leather case for it.
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I love the slippery cool glass slick feel. I would not settle for anything else. Since my iPhone 4s, the Nexus 4 and now this, I realise i'm addicted to these materials. I have dropped mine but always on carpet, no damage thank God. My brother dropped his uncountable times and onto wood floor and tile etc with no cracked glass, just metal rim damaged and scuffed.
I haven't dropped mine and do not have a case nor any screen protection. I don't excessively wipe the phone down but do wipe it when the fingerprints begin to bug me. I phone mostly wipes itself when inserting/removing from my pocket.
I've had the device or about 1.5-2 months and baby it.
The screen has zero micro scratches or any other permanent marks, but the rear panel has micro scratches from simply being placed on a hard, smooth, CLEAN surface like a table. I don't slide the phone across surfaces and put down/pick up the phone very carefully so it doesn't slide/scrape across any surface.
So while the screen appears to be fairly scratch resistant, my experience is that the back becomes easily scratched even when taking the utmost care.
My phone is black which shows these scratches more easily than a lighter color would.
I've had mine for a few months and dropped it several times, but my luck ran out today. Cold, slushy parking lot + road salt was apparently the last straw...
Have you heard of glass protection and cases? I've dropped my Z1 many times and no issues, applying the same protection to Z3.
I've dropped mine a few times now, but luckily no cracks.
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Have you heard of glass protection and cases? I've dropped my Z1 many times and no issues, applying the same protection to Z3.
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I had a Terrapin case and a Rhino Shield screen protector on it, but while the screen protector only had a couple.. what feel like small puncture holes? , the screen itself was completely shattered.
My rear Glas cracked today for amusingly no reason.
We'd just been out to walk the dog, as we came back an put our phones on the table, we heard a cracking sound but couldn't picture where it came from. As I went over to pick up my phone we saw all the cracks all across the rear.
How could this happen, I doubt through the difference in temperature, although it really was cold outside today.
It's a really expensive device and I am really upset about this right now. How can the glas, even if it is just the rear, crack out of appearingly no reason???
Probably from the temperature difference? Live in Minnesota but have not suffered from it so far though I have heard many instances like yours. Another XDA member got a free replacement, try talking to Sony.
I actually guess it really is from.the temperature difference.
Already spoken to my retailer about this, they're picking the device up tomorrow for a free repair or replacement.
Also confirmed that there a a lot of devices with such a problem. I thought they had enough experience by now with glas fronts and backs.
It really is upsetting
Well that's good, no worries. In fact BBC's Watchdog program did an investigation for the Z1 or Z2 for the same problem after many people complained to them. Sony agreed the issue exists and said they will do free replacements as long as it's only "a single fine crack" at the time. I think they are not so picky now.
Currently I'm using an S5 without any cases or covers, and it's still drop-proof, dropped it multiple times on hard floor/concrete and there is no damage on the screen what so ever. And before that I had an HTC One X, which is probably more similar to the Edge in that the screen isn't protected if it drops face down, I did eventually crack it with that kind of a drop. However the edge is gonna be even more problematic because even the back is glass, and no plastic protruding edge to protect it.
Sure I could put it in a bulky case but then it kind of defeats the purpose of having one of the most premium feeling phones ever doesn't it? It'll also negate any ergonomic benefits of the curved back edge as well as the ease of edge swipe on the front edge. Might as well just get something like a.... I don't know, nobody makes high end plastic phones anymore now days, even cheap phones like One Plus is front+back curved glass. Also this thing is already a bigger phone than what I'm used to, adding a beefy case is just gonna make it that much bigger, which I do not like.
Well I guess plenty of people did survive the iPhone 4 glass sandwich era just fine, I'll just have to wish myself luck. I wonder how much would one of those adhesive skins help in a drop situation. Sure they are very thin but if think about the physics of it, gorilla glass is actually quite flexible so it doesn't break from the acceleration of the impact itself, so thinness doesn't really matter. What actually breaks these surface hardens glass is usually a microscopic failure on the surface developing into a big crack. And those microscopic failures can happen when they make contact with sharp hard stuff like individual sand particles, they effectively puncture the surface and develop a weakness. So if you have a skin on the glass, what'll hopefully happen instead is that the skin will be thick enough for the particle to not make direct contact with the glass, and prevent breaking. Even though such thin skins cannot significantly reduce the impact acceleration.
I understand your points, but please, don't ever try to use this phone naked. You NEED a case, the grip is so bad that dropping it is almost a guarantee and the back glass seems to be much more fragile than the front glass from what I have seen in videos. About the cases, you may want to look into the Samsung official plastic backs or (when available) the leather backs. The official plastic back cases from Samsung are the only ones (in my opinion) that really do not ruin the phone's design, the design remains almost intact. However, while the grip is much improved over the naked phone, it is nowhere near other bulky and rubberized cases. A rubberized plastic wrap would be a solution, but the big problem still remains - the metal sides of the phone which are very narrow.
PS: As I understand from the latest spy pics, the iPhone 7 will have a glass back again...probably needed for radio/charging/payment/other secret developments.
There are plenty of case available that won't make the phone look s**t. I'm using a Spigen Crystal Clear, a very good combination of protection and looks. It's impossible to completely keep the phone's look and feel, but it's probably as close as possible whilst being confident of being able to accidentally drop it from pocket height without damage.
Glass protectors on these curved screens are to be avoided, that's my personal opinion anyway. My brother bought numerous types of these for his S6 Edge (expensive and cheap) and not one went on properly without raising on the curves within twenty minutes, causing touch problems on the edges. Go for a good quality film type like a Zagg HD Dry.
I copied you entirely mate I'm not ashamed to say. Got my Spigen Crystal Clear yesterday and, your right, it does look good, but not as good as the nekkid phone itself. But I guess that's the price of good protection.
Just waiting for my Zagg HD Dry front and back covers to arrive today.
I'm personally using Otter Box Commuter for me and my wife's phone. I was able to try it on in store before purchasing. I was sort of desperate for a case on delivery day and it was the most protective case I found. I'm happy with it overall. It's sleep and slim and although the whole front in uncovered it does have raised top and bottom edges so if the phone falls flat the screen doesn't actually touch the floor.
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Use it naked.
Control your fingers.
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Use it naked.
Control your fingers.
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Too risky lol
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I would love to use the phone naked as it just looks so good, but I am scared to risk it. I have never dropped and cracked a phone, and I had an Iphone 4S without a case for 2 years which were well known for getting smashed, I have a clear case on the edge at the moment to offer it some protection.
Carrying and using smart phones without any case is just asking for trouble. I have the S7 Edge and when it arrived on March 2nd it stayed at home in the box until my Spigen Ultra Hybrid case arrived (which was a few days later). I was still using my S5 because I didn't want to take any chances.
After my case arrived I put it on but I still keep the original plastic film on the screen because I was waiting for my Skinomi screen protector to arrive. My Skinomi arrived yesterday and I installed it last night.
So if you don't want a bulky case get the Spigen Ultra Hybrid (I went with the crystal clear color). I ordered my case and screen protector from Amazon. The case is very nice looking and doesn't add any bulk to the phone.
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Oh my.
I'm using this case. It's amazing. Thin, easy to grip and not too expensive.
http://www.bodyguardz.com/unequal-shock-case-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge.html
I use the phone naked and dropped it from about 3,5 feet, first it hit the steel base of a table and than it bounced on a wooden floor, not a scratch :angel:
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I use the phone naked and dropped it from about 3,5 feet, first it hit the steel base of a table and than it bounced on a wooden floor, not a scratch :angel:
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Q.E.D.
Only had my YD206 for 2 days, and the rear screen got some bad looking scratches. Was in my pocket with only a very small (thumb size) aerosol dispenser which apart from a smooth rounded edge body has a plastic cap with so-so sharp top edges. Anyway, it left a couple of deep looking scratches that won't rub away.
I wish I had taken some pics before I started, so your just have to believe me:
I very carefully (and with my heart in my mouth) applied a tiny amount of toothpaste with my finger to the deepest scratch near the top of the screen. I used circular motions with my finger for about 15 seconds and then another 15 seconds with a kitchen towel. I then cleaned it off with a little water and a clean kitchen towel. Once dry I could barely see the original marks so I repeated it on a longer scratch/scuff on the middle of the screen. The marks which were very obvious to any casual user are now almost invisible.
However, I've observed that if a put a water drop on an area of the screen that I didn't use the toothpaste on, the droplet beads and will roll off if you tilt the device. If I put a droplet on a treated area it disperses and leaves a dark wet patch. This will disappear if the you dry it completely.
This leaves me to belief that the so called Gorilla Glass 3 (advertised as on the rear screen too) is not so, but is a cheap liquid glass coating which I have just rubbed off.
I have since ordered some liquid glass protector from Amazon (Crystalusion Liquid Glass - product no: B0094EETOG), maybe that will stay on and offer some protection. I don't really want to put a film protector on the back, it would spoil the look and feel. I will post the results.
I was just wondering whether I should rub the whole of the rear display with toothpaste to prime it for the liquid glass. Any thoughts?
Interesting observation. Have any one applied a tempered glass to the back e-ink screen?
I agree, on the Chinese phones, both screens are made from cheap glass, easily scratches and cracks. Curved gorilla glass must cost a lot!
It makes me wonder about the battery and other internal electronics too.
Great idea about the toothpaste.
I ordered a film for the EPD display.
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I agree, on the Chinese phones, both screens are made from cheap glass, easily scratches and cracks. Curved gorilla glass must cost a lot!
It makes me wonder about the battery and other internal electronics too.
Great idea about the toothpaste.
I ordered a film for the EPD display.
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Why are you saying so? YD206 should just differ in LTE bands, the phone is the same.
By the way which film for EPD display you ordered? I want to try the one described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/yotaphone-one/accessories/screen-protector-t3097978/page1
But I can't find it anymore.
I am saying phones from Chinese retailers all seem to have components that differ in quality from the old yotaphones assembled in Singapore. I have only a yd206 but I imagine Yd201 is the same. Real Gorilla glass does not scratch and break so easily.
I very carefully (and with my heart in my mouth) applied a tiny amount of toothpaste with my finger to the deepest scratch near the top of the screen. I used circular motions with my finger for about 15 seconds and then another 15 seconds with a kitchen towel. I then cleaned it off with a little water and a clean kitchen towel. Once dry I could barely see the original marks so I repeated it on a longer scratch/scuff on the middle of the screen. The marks which were very obvious to any casual user are now almost invisible.
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You can do the same with scrached watchs, but for better result some great product exists , like polywatch (and it's cheat, about 5$ for a tube)
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You can do the same with scrached watchs, but for better result some great product exists , like polywatch (and it's cheat, about 5$ for a tube)
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Thanks for heads up on polywatch, that looks very interesting so I might get some. After using the toothpaste the other day, I bought another brand (Arm & Hammer) and was conscious that it was more gritty than the stuff I used on the phone (Colgate). I wouldn't have liked to use that on the rear screen.
To add to the Gorilla glass comments, if you go to the corning_dot_com web site they list the manufacturers that are licensed/authorized to use it. Yotaphone are not listed unless or course the phones are built by one of the listed suppliers. Of course that would suggest that the Russian built phones don't use Gorilla glass either - Any comments from Yotaphone on this (if your listening of course)?
I managed to drop my YD206 in my garage. Tried to catch it mid-air but failed miserably so things got worse by spinning like crazy before hitting on the rough concrete. the phone flipped a few times on the concrete for 40-50cm before coming to rest on the front screen.
Bad news are: Back glass is shattered at the lower right "corner" where the first impact seemed to be.
Good news are: Front screen and frame don't have a single, not even tiny scratch! Even though it flipped like crazy and i saw dusty and dirty hit spots where the front screen hit the edgy concrete. EPD still works 100% and glass fragments seem to hold in place (except for a small edge missing in the corner.) I'm impressed and I bet my front screen would be gone if it wasn't some higher quality glass.
I agree, it's only the curved glass that is a cheap fake version. Front glass scratches easily but seems tough.
Finally got the Crystalusion and applied it. I didn't bother to prime the rest of the phone like I said I might and I didn't need too.
Now the phone surface beads water drops and the areas I rubbed down don't absorb water like they did before.
Whether or not the surface will be protected by the coating I don't know. It doesn't feel any different, so only time will tell if it resists scratching and abrasion.
If I remember I will revisit this thread say 4 or 6 months in the future and report back.
I applied a film to the EPD back of mine, I used the supplied wet and dry wipes but there were still a few bubbles. It was extremely difficult to get rid of the bubbles, some remained.
The EPD touch screen works fine still, the phone looks almost as good as before. The film did not stick as well on curved sides as on front, but ok.
But, as someone has already written, the clarity of the screen has improved greatly, there is no more "matte" appearance (due to removal of the cheap coating). It looks like a transparent plain glass screen now. In short the EPD looks much clearer. I love EPD screen now and I am using it much more, well, ALWAYS, in fact. 11 hours battery.
The Yotaphone 2 phones bought from China EPD have NO gorilla glass is my conclusion, I agree with apludgate, just this cheap coating. The huge drop in price of the yotaphone in 2015/16 begins to become clearer, but I am very pleased to have had the chance to buy a Yotaphone. It would be interesting to know the REAL technical differences of the Chinese and Russian phone specs.
Now just awaiting next drop of phone of course
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I applied a film to the EPD back of mine, I used the supplied wet and dry wipes but there were still a few bubbles. It was extremely difficult to get rid of the bubbles, some remained.
The EPD touch screen works fine still, the phone looks almost as good as before. The film did not stick as well on curved sides as on front, but ok.
But, as someone has already written, the clarity of the screen has improved greatly, there is no more "matte" appearance (due to removal of the cheap coating). It looks like a transparent plain glass screen now. In short the EPD looks much clearer. I love EPD screen now and I am using it much more, well, ALWAYS, in fact. 11 hours battery.
The Yotaphone 2 phones bought from China EPD have NO gorilla glass is my conclusion, I agree with apludgate, just this cheap coating. The huge drop in price of the yotaphone in 2015/16 begins to become clearer, but I am very pleased to have had the chance to buy a Yotaphone. It would be interesting to know the REAL technical differences of the Chinese and Russian phone specs.
Now just awaiting next drop of phone of course
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Where have you found back screen film? And how manage to use it even if the film doesn't stick on curved sides? It sould peel off eventually...
I also would like to see if the clarity improves, and what are the cons of not having the standard coating anymore.
I found glass and film on aliexpress (of course), only 3-4 usd for a set of 2 pieces.
It sticks, but not so well on curved sides as you can see from the photo. Yes it will peel off eventually.
But the vast improvement in clarity was surprising.
The fake "gorilla" glass, no doubt, offers very little protection, it was just added to make it look like a genuine yotaphone.
I would advise all owners of yotaphones bought in China to buy silicon Bumper and screen protection.
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I found glass and film on aliexpress (of course), only 3-4 usd for a set of 2 pieces.
It sticks, but not so well on curved sides as you can see from the photo. Yes it will peel off eventually.
But the vast improvement in clarity was surprising.
The fake "gorilla" glass, no doubt, offers very little protection, it was just added to make it look like a genuine yotaphone.
I would advise all owners of yotaphones bought in China to buy silicon Bumper and screen protection.
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Yeah I have a bumper and a film for the front screen, but I think I'll not buy yours for the problem in photo. As previously said in this thread, I was searching something like the film described HERE but couldn't find any...
Sounds impressive. It looks very clear in the photo.
Does your screen appear matte, like mine did before?
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Sounds impressive. It looks very clear in the photo.
Does your screen appear matte, like mine did before?
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I found it! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yota-YotaPhone-2-INVISIBLE-Screen-Protector-Shield-Full-Clear-Skin-Front-Back-/171744750586?clk_rvr_id=1141685710269&rmvSB=true
And yes, my back screen is matte and VERY slippery, I hope that with the film above it will be no more slippery. For now I'm using a bumper, otherwise the smartphone is almost unusable
Full body protection
This one one amazon, i purchased but it still on the way
smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B018835YB0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Full body with supporting website iqshield.com/fbscins.html
I'll try and feed back.
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I found it! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yota-YotaPhone-2-INVISIBLE-Screen-Protector-Shield-Full-Clear-Skin-Front-Back-/171744750586?clk_rvr_id=1141685710269&rmvSB=true
And yes, my back screen is matte and VERY slippery, I hope that with the film above it will be no more slippery. For now I'm using a bumper, otherwise the smartphone is almost unusable
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The same one as that one on Aliexpress is 2.20 USD = 1.50 British pounds including free delivery, 5 times cheaper, where the guy in Derby probably buys them from.
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The same one as that one on Aliexpress is 2.20 USD = 1.50 British pounds including free delivery, 5 times cheaper, where the guy in Derby probably buys them from.
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I checked and couldn't tell if those are the same the guy of xda reviewed in the post I linked.