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Hi all,
Just read an artice on the hack of Google's impressive Android mobile OS. Hackers have used files from the emulator and installed the OS on some Linux phones. I was just thinking that there was a post on this forum saying that Linux could be Installed on Magician. Also Android uses Linux's kernal. So why not give Android a try. Would be great to use the new Android on Magician.
Any clues on how to proceed with the Installation ?
Is it really? I listen about porting on only Linux-PDA but Magican isn't Linux-PDA.
Of course, Android can run on the Magician, BUT never forget that you need drivers for the device - even for Linux!
And that's the problem: if you don't have any information about the chipset etc you will need month or even years to develop them.
If you want to run Linux on the Magician, there is already a project which try to develop drivers for Linux. Last time I read from their progress Linux runs on the Magician with the possibility to use the phone (but no GPRS)...
Use the search if you are interested;-)
Melkor said:
If you want to run Linux on the Magician, there is already a project which try to develop drivers for Linux. Last time I read from their progress Linux runs on the Magician with the possibility to use the phone (but no GPRS)...
Use the search if you are interested;-)
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It is http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician , isn't it?
So If Linux can be installed, then Android can also be installed. Because it supports all Linux compatible devices according to the hack.
For the DRIVER part, pls check the official Android website-
http://code.google.com/android/
and let us know. Waiting for your reply...
Thanks!
Peoples - a hve WORKING linux on my HTC magician.
name is Angstorm with GUi OpenMoko.
Work - tochscreen,Sound,GSM,blootuth.
thet meens - drivers are exist and work
Can anybody say, where i can download Google's Androuid for ANY platform ?
I'm Find =) Android For Zaurus
it seems to me, For using rootfs on magician we mast change drivers in it
http://www.omegamoon.com/blog/static.php?page=ZaurusAndroid
As me say one man, it takes compiling magican's drivers using Google android SDK.
Some useful links
Буржуйский форум -> http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showforum=158
ЗАУРУС -> http://www.omegamoon.com/blog/static.php?page=ZaurusAndroid
Cкрины -> http://androidzaurus.seesaa.net/article/75516785.html
Angstrom на Qtek s110 -> http://grigio.org/howto_openmoko_htc_magic...dual_boot_wince
Немного о портировании для OMAP -> http://elinux.org/Android_on_OMAP
Sory for my English =)
does anyone know how to actually download the Android platform? regardless of phone model or drivers? or is it just included in the SDK and you gotta compile it yourself? If I can somehow get my hands on a copy of the image I'll probably end up spending the next 3 weeks trying to flash it natively into the ROM
The Android sources can found on this page: http://code.google.com/p/android/downloads/list
It is only kernel. Without drivers.
Found a new article for search on "Android on HTC", got this:
Android Kernel Found, Android on HTC Kaiser imminent
It says, that the kernal works only on MSM7200A chipset for now.
Take a look, link: http://fandroid.net/content/android-kernel-found-android-htc-kaiser-imminent
what i cannot understand is:
if there is an working linux kernel (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianXanadux) than android should be executable also!?
All necessary driviers shold be available.
So why should it be impossible to have a running android on a Magician?
cheers
aitsch
p.s.: the Magician is a very fast device. maybe android is running well on it.
UPDATE: Google has released a new version of Android, v0.9
Any updates on running Andriod on Magician ?
I could run Linux (Openmoko) successfully.
yea! Android 1.0 it very good
we need this
linux can run on a magician and u can use phone on it but no sms and it's full of bug's
Hi all,
I have tried to download the angstrom linux and follow the instruction from this site http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/....
but I always had kernel panic when start booting the linux, after then I found out the unzipping wasn't successful there is an error occurred during unzipping.
Does anyone ever encounter the error when unzipping? your help would be much appreciated. thank you
wayne
Hi everybody,
are there any news on running android on magican. Did anybody manage to get it running?
w00t!
I for one cannot wait to boot winCE on my Magician! Id love to put ANDROID on it! from what it looks like they are only 80% done!
I have opie II running on magician (http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/)
and it runs perfectly (except a little bug eith the menu).
And here is a list what works in linux (http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician)so android should work
header2k said:
I have opie II running on magician (http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/)
and it runs perfectly (except a little bug eith the menu).
And here is a list what works in linux (http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician)so android should work
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Interesting, I'll take a look! What are the bugs you personally notice?
(This thread is cross-posted to the Q&A forum)
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to build the XDA utils tree and itsutils.dll from source in order to play around with it a bit, but have had no luck so far. I've searched through all the forums, but couldn't find anything about building the toolset, only how to develop for actual mobile devices.
I got the source tree for the xda utils project, but the instructions on how to build them (here) are not very clear. What software do I need to have installed? Which libraries? Do I need to install an embedded version of the STL? Where can I find the "preview editions" of Platform Builder 3.0 and 4.0 in order to get the header files?
I'm running Windows XP 32-bit (I also have a 64-bit machine, though I doubt that'll make it any easier), and have installed VS 2005, the Windows Mobile 6 SDK, and eMbedded VC 4.0.
I'd really appreciate any advice or help.
Thanks in advance,
Rob
Hey guys, I've recently started to get involved in ROM development on my free time, still pretty new at this, and have been researching how to set up Ubuntu w/ a Virtual Machine as well as setting up the Android Kitchen. I came across a couple comments where people have reported Ubuntu 11.04 having graphical issues. Could anyone verify this? I'm in the process of setting up VirtualBox and don't know if I should go with the latest version of Ubuntu or 10.04. I guess what I need to figure out is if they are both compatible with VirtualBox 4.0.8, or if there is a combo of the two that out weighs the other in terms of graphics and performance? Thanks in advance for any feedback.
What I'm running:
Win7 Ultimate x64 (x86 compatible)
VirtualBox 4.0.8
Ubuntu ?
Hey guys, im going to be recieving an nexus 7 the next days and im new to the OS. Had a question in regards to the terminal and some common *nix ports.
Firstly, is it possible to install irssi on the device? Im assuming I must have root capability and a terminal app installed to be able to install the irc client as usual? Or any other common port ? screen,pine,etc? Or is there a common bundle install, alla iOS via cydia?
Thanks in advance!
anyone?
Hi
I'm starting to programm android's app , I'm attending a course and in this course the professor recomment us to install the JDK version 6 . On the oracle's site I have seen that there is JDK version 7.
I have read that there are incompatibilities between Android platform and JDK 7, is still true ?
Thanks to all
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I'm back , because I've problem with the emulator..
I downloaded the ADT BUNDLE for 64bit, I unzipped the file and a Try to use it . At the beginning I had no problems, but when I try to use the emulator the first problems appeared : the emulator is too slow .. :/
My notebook has :
intel core i5
4gb ram
hard disk 5400rpm :/
window 8
What can I do for speed up the emulator ? I read of HAXM on intel forum, can it resolve my problem ?
thanks
aeroxr1 said:
Hi
I'm starting to programm android's app , I'm attending a course and in this course the professor recomment us to install the JDK version 6 . On the oracle's site I have seen that there is JDK version 7.
I have read that there are incompatibilities between Android platform and JDK 7, is still true ?
Thanks to all
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You need to install JDK 6 for Android app development ..
You can download the JDK here : http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase6-419409.html
niranjan94 said:
You need to install JDK 6 for Android app development ..
You can download the JDK here : http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase6-419409.html
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mmm ok,
I asked because on my pc I have installed jdk 7 ,but then I will install the previous version
Thanks
aeroxr1 said:
mmm ok,
I asked because on my pc I have installed jdk 7 ,but then I will install the previous version
Thanks
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Your welcome .. All the best for you development ! :good: :good:
I'm back , because I've problem with the emulator..
I downloaded the ADT BUNDLE for 64bit, I unzipped the file and a Try to use it . At the beginning I had no problems, but when I try to use the emulator the first problems appeared : the emulator is too slow .. :/
My notebook has :
intel core i5
4gb ram
hard disk 5400rpm :/
window 8
What can I do for speed up the emulator ? I read of HAXM on intel forum, can it resolve my problem ?
The bottle neck is the ram ? 4gb ram is not enough for the emulator 64bit on window 8 ?
thanks
aeroxr1 said:
I'm back , because I've problem with the emulator..
I downloaded the ADT BUNDLE for 64bit, I unzipped the file and a Try to use it . At the beginning I had no problems, but when I try to use the emulator the first problems appeared : the emulator is too slow .. :/
My notebook has :
intel core i5
4gb ram
hard disk 5400rpm :/
window 8
What can I do for speed up the emulator ? I read of HAXM on intel forum, can it resolve my problem ?
The bottle neck is the ram ? 4gb ram is not enough for the emulator 64bit on window 8 ?
thanks
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4Gbytes will do ok, but there will be times when you'll have to economize on the simultaneous running applications.
The emulator is what it is. Some of the system images are buggy, worse than others. I have 4.1.2 images that perform reasonably well, with OpenGL ES 2.
HAXM is a way of running the x86 system images in Windows (there's another means of doing that within Linux). This is sometimes significant because not all application development is able to target x86 builds of Android. If you're sticking to Java, though, it should be no problem, and yes, the x86 images are much faster.
You don't have enough RAM for genymotion and development - though with a tight squeeze that might work. Genymotion uses Virtual Box to run Android inside a VM. It's an x86 build - may be SLIGHTLY better than the x86 emulator images, but I've not had a problem with the emulator generally.
All that said, you really need to consider a device. There's nothing quite like debugging on a real device. Used Kindle Fire first generation makes a good purchase (it will be used). The hardware is fairly standard - not impressive. However, it's 2.3.3 Android is great for low end target testing (as in, compatible with early devices). Further, there are custom ROM builds for the device (and it's not locked), so you can install Android 4.4 on it - test as if it were a brand new device with the latest OS.
Many would likely frown at a Kindle, but frankly it's a good overall device for debugging at the likely price point you'll find. You'll need to purchase a USB cable for it, but otherwise its a good solution.
Yes I have a galaxy nexus and with it I haven't any problems , but the virtual emulator is also slow to start ... boh !
maybe is 4.4 image fault !
A Galaxy Nexus should be nice dev phone. I'm using devices for practically all my development, and only use the emulator for testing compatibilty with other OS versions. Not only is working with a device quick, but it also allows you to judge what your app 'feels' like on an actual device, which is something that tends to be overlooked easily in the whole emulator/device debate.
Wouldn't you need a multitude of devices to test on? Isn't there a possibility that what might work on Galaxy Note 3 for example may not work for all devices.
Check out Jar of Beans on the forums here
I built a performanced enhanced version of the Jar of Beans application (which is an improved Android emulator) that completely loads the Android virtual machine and associated binary files into a dedicated RAM disk on my Windows 7 64Bit dev machine running 4GB of RAM and Core Duo Quadcore.
All I can say is that performance is out of this world! Will wooop the arse off any phone I know of lol
Anyway, just a suggestion...try it out. If you are any good with AutoIT code I can share you my sources for additional performance boosting you r Android avd
I use genymotion as a device emulator. I highly recommend it. Very easy to setup and works great with Eclipse IDE.
Sent from my SM-N900 using xda app-developers app
Since you have a newer Intel chip it should come with HAXM support. After setting up HAXM you need download the x86 emulator images. Creating an AVD with an x86 image and HAXM setup properly should make the emulator run faster than an actual phone. Just search the android developer pages on how to set it up based on your dev enviroment. There are drivers that can be installed through the SDK manager in the extra section if you're using windows.
mrsegev said:
I use genymotion as a device emulator. I highly recommend it. Very easy to setup and works great with Eclipse IDE.
Sent from my SM-N900 using xda app-developers app
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+1, the intel HAXM is better than the default ARM-7 emulator, but the Genymotion is the fastest one I've tried.
Genemotion > Intel HaxM > Arm-7
I was getting a lot of stuttering and frame drops using the HAXM, but with Genemotion, completely smooth and fast on my i5 with 6GB. There's plug-ins for use with Android Studio.
Genymotion is the best emulator, work perfectly
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Use bluestacks
aeroxr1 said:
Hi
I'm starting to programm android's app , I'm attending a course and in this course the professor recomment us to install the JDK version 6 . On the oracle's site I have seen that there is JDK version 7.
I have read that there are incompatibilities between Android platform and JDK 7, is still true ?
Thanks to all
EDIT :
I'm back , because I've problem with the emulator..
I downloaded the ADT BUNDLE for 64bit, I unzipped the file and a Try to use it . At the beginning I had no problems, but when I try to use the emulator the first problems appeared : the emulator is too slow .. :/
My notebook has :
intel core i5
4gb ram
hard disk 5400rpm :/
window 8
What can I do for speed up the emulator ? I read of HAXM on intel forum, can it resolve my problem ?
thanks
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we all know that the emulator is very laggy,thats why i use blue stacks for testing apps !
Emu help
man you can use Bluestacks app player .. its so fast and secondly if you have an android phone you can use usb debugging !
The only thing is that if you want to check your apps on different devices you have to have the standard provided emulator !!
Use genymotion only.
I have never seen people using Android emulator now days.It is very slow.
Instead go for Genymotion as it is virtual box based solution and works very fast.Sometime faster than device
I have been using it on my windows machine , some times it crashes when high resolution device image is created. But I guess it is not very frequent.So save your time using Genymotion.
Thanks,
The original emulator is painfully slow, try using BlueStacks.