Hi all,
Just read an artice on the hack of Google's impressive Android mobile OS. Hackers have used files from the emulator and installed the OS on some Linux phones. I was just thinking that there was a post on this forum saying that Linux could be Installed on Magician. Also Android uses Linux's kernal. So why not give Android a try. Would be great to use the new Android on Magician.
Any clues on how to proceed with the Installation ?
Is it really? I listen about porting on only Linux-PDA but Magican isn't Linux-PDA.
Of course, Android can run on the Magician, BUT never forget that you need drivers for the device - even for Linux!
And that's the problem: if you don't have any information about the chipset etc you will need month or even years to develop them.
If you want to run Linux on the Magician, there is already a project which try to develop drivers for Linux. Last time I read from their progress Linux runs on the Magician with the possibility to use the phone (but no GPRS)...
Use the search if you are interested;-)
Melkor said:
If you want to run Linux on the Magician, there is already a project which try to develop drivers for Linux. Last time I read from their progress Linux runs on the Magician with the possibility to use the phone (but no GPRS)...
Use the search if you are interested;-)
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It is http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician , isn't it?
So If Linux can be installed, then Android can also be installed. Because it supports all Linux compatible devices according to the hack.
For the DRIVER part, pls check the official Android website-
http://code.google.com/android/
and let us know. Waiting for your reply...
Thanks!
Peoples - a hve WORKING linux on my HTC magician.
name is Angstorm with GUi OpenMoko.
Work - tochscreen,Sound,GSM,blootuth.
thet meens - drivers are exist and work
Can anybody say, where i can download Google's Androuid for ANY platform ?
I'm Find =) Android For Zaurus
it seems to me, For using rootfs on magician we mast change drivers in it
http://www.omegamoon.com/blog/static.php?page=ZaurusAndroid
As me say one man, it takes compiling magican's drivers using Google android SDK.
Some useful links
Буржуйский форум -> http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showforum=158
ЗАУРУС -> http://www.omegamoon.com/blog/static.php?page=ZaurusAndroid
Cкрины -> http://androidzaurus.seesaa.net/article/75516785.html
Angstrom на Qtek s110 -> http://grigio.org/howto_openmoko_htc_magic...dual_boot_wince
Немного о портировании для OMAP -> http://elinux.org/Android_on_OMAP
Sory for my English =)
does anyone know how to actually download the Android platform? regardless of phone model or drivers? or is it just included in the SDK and you gotta compile it yourself? If I can somehow get my hands on a copy of the image I'll probably end up spending the next 3 weeks trying to flash it natively into the ROM
The Android sources can found on this page: http://code.google.com/p/android/downloads/list
It is only kernel. Without drivers.
Found a new article for search on "Android on HTC", got this:
Android Kernel Found, Android on HTC Kaiser imminent
It says, that the kernal works only on MSM7200A chipset for now.
Take a look, link: http://fandroid.net/content/android-kernel-found-android-htc-kaiser-imminent
what i cannot understand is:
if there is an working linux kernel (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianXanadux) than android should be executable also!?
All necessary driviers shold be available.
So why should it be impossible to have a running android on a Magician?
cheers
aitsch
p.s.: the Magician is a very fast device. maybe android is running well on it.
UPDATE: Google has released a new version of Android, v0.9
Any updates on running Andriod on Magician ?
I could run Linux (Openmoko) successfully.
yea! Android 1.0 it very good
we need this
linux can run on a magician and u can use phone on it but no sms and it's full of bug's
Hi all,
I have tried to download the angstrom linux and follow the instruction from this site http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/....
but I always had kernel panic when start booting the linux, after then I found out the unzipping wasn't successful there is an error occurred during unzipping.
Does anyone ever encounter the error when unzipping? your help would be much appreciated. thank you
wayne
Hi everybody,
are there any news on running android on magican. Did anybody manage to get it running?
w00t!
I for one cannot wait to boot winCE on my Magician! Id love to put ANDROID on it! from what it looks like they are only 80% done!
I have opie II running on magician (http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/)
and it runs perfectly (except a little bug eith the menu).
And here is a list what works in linux (http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician)so android should work
header2k said:
I have opie II running on magician (http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/)
and it runs perfectly (except a little bug eith the menu).
And here is a list what works in linux (http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician)so android should work
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Interesting, I'll take a look! What are the bugs you personally notice?
Related
Hi there!
I was just wondering if anyone got linux up and running on one of this phones (especially I'm interested in the s730). Some kind of openmoko on a HTC would just be really great
So anyone - any information?
thx
Ali
EDIT:
I think, it should be possible, cause Android seems to run (better: is designed to run) on Qualcomm MSM7k series...
nothing? nobody?
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There is a thread here about running win95 using bochs. I want to try to run DSL on bochs the problem is that i cannot find the wince version of the emu. If that is successfull i am looking at building a small gentoo system using matchbox as the window manager. Unless i can find a wince port for gtk that is
look up the WIKI and u will find all your answers
@cornelha:
bochs isn't the best solution when it goes down to linux. I think using the right compiled kernel (for arm9/11) would do it...
@ather90:
thanks
will look into that
Dear all,
as I wrote on this other post (excuse me for crossposting - please mods to close the wrong-placed one):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=384850
there are two guys that recompiled Android for ARMv4 processor - like ARM920T, the trinity processor!!
Here you have the links:
http://benno.id.au/blog/
http://perpetual-notion.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-freerunnder-updates.html
They are working on the Freerunner and Neo1973 devices.. but the processor is the same..
Anyone out there wants Android on our beloved trinity?
At the moment I have no spare time (and skills) to take the challenge.. but I hope that someone will do.
I think that with the source code the CLZ and Thumb mode issues are completely addressed.
Anyone could confirm this to me?
Best regards,
s
Hi,
i'm also interested to see android on my htc hermes. i'm waiting benos new blog entries to see if he was able to run the code on "Neo1973".
What is the diference between htc hermes and htc dream (g1) regarding other chips beside the prcessor?
i don't think that drivers included in android can cover all chips in hermes. can someone maybe make an list of same and different devices(chips) in this 2 devices?
thanks
G phone?
So this is the same OS that the G phone is sporting yeah?
If The flashing process isn't harder than the current process then I'd be up for this. Also will it brick the phone?
Need some people to test.
Great Topic!
More information about this here:
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1368755|a1368755
http://review.source.android.com/user/sean,,mcneil.com
Since the openmoko is very like the p3600 I will give these patches a try. Let you know!
That would be awesome !
Please tel us your progression.
I'm waiting for a Android ROM for my Trinity ^_^
This is what we can try. The openmoke images are out. Since the openmoke is very like the p3600 we could give these images a try. The images are located over here.
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/androidfs.jffs2
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/uImage-android
We need haret for the images as well.
http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-0.5.2.exe
The thing we also need is to have a proper default.txt for haret. Who can help?
Hi piethein,
This will replace the rom we have installed in the trinity or is like an emulator running under wm ?
We dont loss any wm rom that we have installed ?
Dear all,
here you have some (bad) news:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/906dcae21176d4e9#
at the link above you will find a thread I started in adroid-porting developers group.
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/0b3743f8151783f6#
at this link there are other infos, but let me report two msgs:
shaice:
Dear all,
sorry to bother you with (probably) silly questions but..
I own a HTC trinity that use the same ARM920T processor of Freerunner.
I saw benno's and christopher's posts on their blogs...
Is there any chance that your binaries will run on other ARM920T
phones?
Thank you in advance for any answer.
Best regards,
s
Christopher Friedt:
Hi Shaice,
In short, no (for now...)
Chris
sigh sob!
Now I'm searching for some fresh news.
Stay tuned!
s
uhmm reading somewhere in the group I found this post:
Jean-Baptiste Queru
3 Nov, 01:14
The shipping G1s have 192MB. Earlier development devices had 128MB,
and that wasn't quite enough to smoothly run the applications that
ship with the G1. Even if all the device's RAM could be allocated to
Android (no baseband, no framebuffer) 64MB would probably be very
tight, to the point where even foreground applications would risk
getting killed because of low memory conditions (the browser
especially comes to mind). In 32MB the system is likely to be
thrashing for memory even before it's done starting the system server
(if it can even start it at all).
JBQ
Mmmmh no good news for us.. :-/
s
Hi there,
basically these are great news!!!
piethein said:
This is what we can try. The openmoke images are out. Since the openmoke is very like the p3600 we could give these images a try. The images are located over here.
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/androidfs.jffs2
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/uImage-android
We need haret for the images as well.
http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-0.5.2.exe
The thing we also need is to have a proper default.txt for haret. Who can help?
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....but forget about running exactly these images on your trinity units.
It won't work
I don't want to digg your hope but there's a lot to do to make it real.
First:
You'll need a kernel that suits to trinity and offer some features the android OS needs.
Second:
You'll have to modify the image in jffs2 format to get loaded on trinity or build up a tricky environment to mount these image files after booting the kernel.
Have fun!
scholbert
Android on Trinity wanted!!
now that the full Android code is out it's possible!!
we can have Android on Trinity!!
please help... I cannot stand anymore WM!!
IMHO there is no enough memory to run smoothly android on trinity...
but stay tuned..
s
Dear all,
there is no hope for trinity users like us to see android running on our wonderful device.
As stated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-internals/browse_thread/thread/788c201e75ca7351
Android don't run on the ARM920T used in Neo1973.
In the following site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#ARM_cores there is a table
where are described all the ARM cpu.
Android framework is compiled for the ARMv5 architecture version, so run on
the all the processors that belong to this architecture version and also in
some cpu of the new architecture (ARMv6/v7).
Other information can be found on this site
http://elinux.org/Android_on_OMAP#Real_hardware.
Best Regards,
Andrea Bernardi
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:-(
bye all
s
ehm...
on HTC vox wat i was using 2 weeks ago they builded a ADNROID rom !!! But they have only clock working but working !!! (no gsm,no edge,no menu,....)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368014&page=14
didoop said:
on HTC vox wat i was using 2 weeks ago they builded a ADNROID rom !!! But they have only clock working but working !!! (no gsm,no edge,no menu,....)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368014&page=14
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a new step per day, some time good new, other time bad news..... lets get hope that android will run on trinity...
hii there... does any one have been try to install android os on hermes?? i wanna to use that on my htc softbank x01ht..
Aaaaaaahh
Nearly no comment on this
Please use the pretty good search function of this forum!
In short:
Android on hermes is not possible without a fully working linux kernel.
No, there is no fully working linux kernel for hermes.
Yes, you will need some kind of linux to run Android.
Regards,
scholbert
find people to work on the kernel and this could happen
seems linux kernel development is stuck
needs some genius o work it out
http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about&l=en
After reading this i thought it is possible to bring this to our omap 850 devices so i just want see ur views
you can use e17 booting angstrom + illume thanks to wing linux project
but there aren't angstrom image ready to load you must compile...
As gp.triple pointed out, it should be possible to do. As Wing Linux uses Angstrom+Android so Angstrom+E17 shouldn't be a problem.
And pitillo on #wing-linux mentioned a couple of days ago that he was trying to build it for elf (aka Touch, another Omap850 device). If he succeded in making one, it should run as is on our devices.
Personally, I prefer having a Kernel that supports all Opal features before worrying about builds and packages. And sadely, I'm not having lots of success there
Anyway, check the link in my sig if you want to know more about Wing Linux.
MusikMonk said:
Personally, I prefer having a Kernel that supports all Opal features before worrying about builds and packages.
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're right I also think that before we have a working kernel and then you can choose what you prefer
Linux is freedom
i tried android wing linux already , its cool thnx musik monk
Hello everybody,
I'm Johan, I live in the netherlands and i'm doing a study Informatica->Software Engineer. For a schoolproject we have to write an Android Application, though i don't have Android running on my telephone natively. So i searched the internet and found out that on the XDA forums its all about custom roms and that there are some Android Roms available. Unfortunately nothing for my MDA Compact/HTC Magician yet.
After asking arround a bit and searching all over the internet I figured nowone actually was bothering to further investigate Android for Magician.
So even though I have no idea if it will ever gonna work i'm gonna try to document as much as possible, and I hope others might join this topic and give some (usefull!!) feedback.
These websites I think are the best place to start, as I don't have any experience with ROMS or Android-OS its gonna be a challenging task but if you guys have any idea's, suggestions or websites where we can find more information feel free to post comments.
Startpage for Magician info:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Magician
HaRET bootloader working on magician:
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation
Linux kernel for Magician:
http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kernel#Kernel_for_intel_PXA_based_devices
Current status for linux kernel:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianProgress
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician
Source code for Android:
http://source.android.com/
How to build Android OS:
http://source.android.com/porting/build_system.html
Compatiblity test suite:
http://source.android.com/compatibility/cts-intro.html
Any feedback is apreciated but please don't make it like "nice, when is it finished?" or "its impossible!"
as I have no idea about both of those 2 comments yet, I'll have to figure that out on the go.
It should be possible, someone already ported android to pxa270!
http://www.mask.org.tw/demo.htm
need to throw in a kernel guess i ll fetch yet another magician if that happens!!!
Hi header2k and evildarknight, thanks for the input.
My chinese/tw isn't to good, so i googled for android and pxa270 and found the following website, no idea if its any usefull (currently not at home, and my datalimit on my laptop dislikes downloading 1,3GB so i'll have to see what it is when i'm at my desktop again.)
http://www.ntut.edu.tw/~wyliang/
This looks interesting, if it comes to testing, you can contact me!
guess my chinese aint better
can't somebody anybody compile the android froyo kernel 2.6.32 for the magician which seems to be inline with ph5 dev???
I can't read chinese either, but i wanted to link to the pdf files:
http://www.mask.org.tw/data/Android_Porting_on_PXA270.pdf
http://www.mask.org.tw/data/BringUp_Android_on_PXA270.pdf (he used files from: svn co https://android-pxa270.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/android-pxa270 android-pxa270 )
He uploaded his work, too(with two mirrors, after 原始碼 (1.3GB) 下載位置: )
His machine:
[email protected] <-- identical with our magician
64MB RAM <-- identical with our magician
32mb ROM <-- Isn't important because he used an external usb-stick with chroot - We can use our sdcard and haret
Toppoly TD035STEB1 <-- identical wth our magician
Setting up Dev-Team
So this proves i guess its a done deal already
But is it then just theoretically/closed project? or did he indeed release his sourcecode as well? Sourceforge SVN shows there isn't anything deposited.
Anyway, still want to use this on my telephone, no idea what it takes to use/modify his work. Anyone interested in actually joining the project-team to make it run on a telephone? cause in the pics in the powerpoint i see some laptop and some mainboard and touchscreen but not a MDA Compact/HTC Magician yet.
There are copies of the project www.mask.org.tw/data/release-sourceforge.tgz and www.ntut.edu.tw/~wyliang/release-sourceforge.tgz. I don't have access to a linux box at this moment. Need to fix my PC before working on android.
Hello, This is Mask from http://www.mask.org.tw
Hello, I am Mask and I found there are some traffic from xda-developers to my website, so I come here and found there are some discussion of my work before in last year.
I had open an android project for pxa270 on sourceforge, but I didn't know how to upload my source code to sourceforge, so I put the source code on my website and mirror sites.
I hope maybe I could help you if you are interest in "android porting" and some related topics.
mask.chung said:
Hello, I am Mask and I found there are some traffic from xda-developers to my website, so I come here and found there are some discussion of my work before in last year.
I had open an android project for pxa270 on sourceforge, but I didn't know how to upload my source code to sourceforge, so I put the source code on my website and mirror sites.
I hope maybe I could help you if you are interest in "android porting" and some related topics.
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Yes, i have a question. Do you have a pxafb.c driver that works with android and the 2.6.32 kernels?
sorry about that I have no time to maintain my android project for pxa270, and now I have no plan to keep to maintain it, maybe we could upload whole developing source code including all svn reversion from begin to now, do you know how to import svn to sourceforge ? thanks a lot.
Here is some information on SVN and sourceforge.
http://haacked.com/archive/2006/02/22/QuickstartGuidetoSubversiononSourceForge.aspx some older howto from 2006 not sure if its up to date
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Subversion Official sourceforge howto.
http://tortoisesvn.net/ svn client
Kernel
Can someone test this kernel and see if it works as I do not have a magician to test it with.
If it does boot can you follow the steps posted here to see if android boots...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=658664
notime2d8 said:
Can someone test this kernel and see if it works as I do not have a magician to test it with.
If it does boot can you follow the steps posted here to see if android boots...
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I try to use kernel on Qtek S110(WM 6.1 by Cotulla), but get freeze screen on line "Jumping to Kernel...". When i use zImage from thread "Android 1.5 Cupcake on Universal" - again freeze on line "Jumping to Kernel...". Any ideas?
If you need to test something on Magician, contact me by ICQ 258113792.
Pavel A Safonov said:
I try to use kernel on Qtek S110(WM 6.1 by Cotulla), but get freeze screen on line "Jumping to Kernel...". When i use zImage from thread "Android 1.5 Cupcake on Universal" - again freeze on line "Jumping to Kernel...". Any ideas?
If you need to test something on Magician, contact me by ICQ 258113792.
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Make sure you have the radio turned on and not in airplane mode and wifi and bluetooth turned off. Also the correct machine type 875 in the startup text file or 855 if using the one for the universal.
i think set MTYPE 875 should be the right one
notime2d8 said:
Make sure you have the radio turned on and not in airplane mode and wifi and bluetooth turned off. Also the correct machine type 875 in the startup text file or 855 if using the one for the universal.
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When radio is turned on, Linux loading and stop on next lines:
1. With kernel for Magician
...
mmc0: new SD card at addess 41a8
mmcblk0: mmc0:41a8 SD01G 982 MiB
mmcvlk0: p1 p2 p3
Waiting for root device /dev/sdb2...
I wait more then 5 minutes, but nothing happens.
2. With kernel for Universal
...
ds1wm: ds1wm: reset failed
Device vibrate all time and after last line turn off display.
Pavel A Safonov said:
When radio is turned on, Linux loading and stop on next lines:
1. With kernel for Magician
...
mmc0: new SD card at addess 41a8
mmcblk0: mmc0:41a8 SD01G 982 MiB
mmcvlk0: p1 p2 p3
Waiting for root device /dev/sdb2...
I wait more then 5 minutes, but nothing happens.
2. With kernel for Universal
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ds1wm: ds1wm: reset failed
Device vibrate all time and after last line turn off display.
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Ok, don't use the universal kernel, from what you posted it seems that the kernel is not pointing to the correct memory card path in the startup text file or try reinserting the card.
If anybody knows how to build kernels i can provide the files and walk them through how i built the kernel for the universal which i have just gotten a very slow and unusable eclair (mostly due to hardware) working. I think this is the most i can help out as i don't have a magician.