kitkat camera - how improved is it - Moto G General

Hi,
I read two opinions in another thread, one said the camera quality is improved in kitkat, the other opinion said there was no difference.
My only reason for maybe upgrading to kitkat is if the camera is better. I dont want to upgrade otherwise as my moto g is working fantastically on 4.3 right now.
So would people be able to let me know if they think the camera is improved on kitkat, especially if it manages to focus faster and better.
Thanks.

I haven't noticed any difference, also tried focal but it's even worse, except at low light I think it's a little better.
Does anyone else have any suggestions? Has anyone tried LG camera?

It's the same. Motorola needs to push out a firmware update which is not part of the Android OS.
You should update to 4.4.2 anyway because its free, its an improvement in performance and there's no reason not to upgrade.

CADude said:
It's the same. Motorola needs to push out a firmware update which is not part of the Android OS.
You should update to 4.4.2 anyway because its free, its an improvement in performance and there's no reason not to upgrade.
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Wasn't 4.4.1 to improve the Nexus 5 camera? Then 4.4.2 provided other fixes.

wrj54 said:
Wasn't 4.4.1 to improve the Nexus 5 camera? Then 4.4.2 provided other fixes.
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Yes but Google controls the Nexus firmware. Motorola controls the Moto /g/ firmware. It's up to Motorola to fix their camera.

CADude said:
Yes but Google controls the Nexus firmware. Motorola controls the Moto /g/ firmware. It's up to Motorola to fix their camera.
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Motorola is Google now
@scott_doyland, you should always keep you device on the most up-to-date software possible. Also included in updates are various security updates to keep your device safe from viruses and such.
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I used Infusion ROM (Beta 2 which was 4.3 based) for a few days which uses the AOSP camera/gallery instead of the Motorola one. The image quality was much better compared to the stock camera.

CADude said:
Yes but Google controls the Nexus firmware. Motorola controls the Moto /g/ firmware. It's up to Motorola to fix their camera.
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I probably didn't state it clearly but I was thinking if 4.4.1 was aimed at the Nexus 5 camera, why would it improve the Moto G camera unless they have the exact same app and same issue.
My next thought is does Google/Motorola even think they have an issue with the Moto G camera? They obviously knew customers where unhappy with the N5's camera but unless they feel there's an issue with the Moto G, there will be no fix.

wrj54 said:
I probably didn't state it clearly but I was thinking if 4.4.1 was aimed at the Nexus 5 camera, why would it improve the Moto G camera unless they have the exact same app and same issue.
My next thought is does Google/Motorola even think they have an issue with the Moto G camera? They obviously knew customers where unhappy with the N5's camera but unless they feel there's an issue with the Moto G, there will be no fix.
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I agree here... I think everyone should take a couple minutes to voice their opinions to Motorola about the camera. Heck, all you have to do is live chat on the Help app and ask if they plan on releasing a software update to improve the camera quality. I think if enough of us do this, we could see results.
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I'm for that idea, though we'd need more than 10 participants to raise Googorola's concern.
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i even just don't wanna touch that camera icon.
just forget about taking picture with it.

same here
tonyleeloveyou said:
i even just don't wanna touch that camera icon.
just forget about taking picture with it.
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me too, but sometimes you need it. For example, you see some celebrity. But I will not be surprised when that celebrity refuse a photo on your MOTO G. That noise reduction is terrible. Just too much. If this will be fixed, I think that'll be decent camera.

The best camera is the one that's with you
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I did a live chat with Moto using the help app, I told them the camera takes terrible pics and asked if they were planning a software update for the camera app... The CS rep I was chatting with basically ignored the question and wanted me to clear the data on the camera and reboot the phone. Lol
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Is Motorola cheap (£99) because of cheap Camera? Not sure but you cannot have all top spec for this price range. Personally I don't think any update will improve this camera, more likely it's hardware issue. Anyway still great device.

Defy+ made way better pictures than this. KK doesn't improve it.

If anyone's interested, I did a quick write up in the themes & apps section on how to replace the stock Moto cam with the KitKat AOSP camera, which imo takes far better pics. Root is required.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602054
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lowrider262 said:
I agree here... I think everyone should take a couple minutes to voice their opinions to Motorola about the camera. Heck, all you have to do is live chat on the Help app and ask if they plan on releasing a software update to improve the camera quality. I think if enough of us do this, we could see results.
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I did that just now. They told me to get latest version of camera app, so nothing useful as I had it already installed on my phone. It's the least I can do.

Walliser said:
I also have same issue. My camera is slow. I need to hold the camera for a little while during each shot.
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Slow? Mine is so fast that it doesn't even bother to focus :laugh:

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Highly disappointed with camera speed after testing S3 and note II

After playing with the S3 and note II camera at the store I'm highly disappointed with or shutter speed on this phone. There is no reason it cannot near instant when you push the button. Is this on Samsung's radar or will it not be fixed for over a year? Considering switching to the One when it congress or because a quick camera is necessary when your have young kids who don't sit still.
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Why in accessoires...?????
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kingharrison said:
After playing with the S3 and note II camera at the store I'm highly disappointed with or shutter speed on this phone. There is no reason it cannot near instant when you push the button. Is this on Samsung's radar or will it not be fixed for over a year? Considering switching to the One when it congress or because a quick camera is necessary when your have young kids who don't sit still.
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good for you,, you want a cookie what does complain get you nada dont like dont buy move on simple as that
On MEA rom I've noticed improvement in this case. Shutter is noticeably faster with this rom on my 9505.
my GT9500 camera is opening in less than 0.2 sec, focus done.... I am with MF3 FW, so I am sure camera issue(s) is (are) corrected starting from MEA FW. Now we receive MF8 release and may be some more "adjustment".
I bought this phone mostly for the camera! And I was very sad with the camera behavior at first tests.....(MDK original firmware)
Now happy man!
lolo9393 said:
my GT9500 camera is opening in less than 0.2 sec, focus done.... I am with MF3 FW, so I am sure camera issue(s) is (are) corrected starting from MEA FW. Now we receive MF8 release and may be some more "adjustment".
I bought this phone mostly for the camera! And I was very sad with the camera behavior at first tests.....(MDK original firmware)
Now happy man!
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How fast is the shutter? I have to assume this camera shutter is a firmware software problem. The front facing camera is fine.
kingharrison said:
How fast is the shutter? I have to assume this camera shutter is a firmware software problem. The front facing camera is fine.
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No question about Shutter (speed), it is immediate, no delay, even when focus is somewhere out. in the dark with flash ON it is less than half second, focus included.
It is much better than my old and not very obsolete SONY TX 7 camera.
I come from a 2011 SONY Xperia Kyno, was laggy at opening and very slow and unpredictable at shutter result.
Now I can say S4 is a new world. Sorry i can't compare with S3 cam but I am sure it is much better.
Note! I have a GT9500, not the same camera as the 9505 but speed should be the equal.
kingharrison said:
After playing with the S3 and note II camera at the store I'm highly disappointed with or shutter speed on this phone. There is no reason it cannot near instant when you push the button. Is this on Samsung's radar or will it not be fixed for over a year? Considering switching to the One when it congress or because a quick camera is necessary when your have young kids who don't sit still.
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lol... first of all it's a phone, not a pro-camera. If you want fast pictures buy a DSLR...
leeomendes said:
lol... first of all it's a phone, not a pro-camera. If you want fast pictures buy a DSLR...
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Its my life companion and I paid $650 for it. It better dance when I tell it to!
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Mine too. The fastest so far is the note 2 camera. Even my lousy iphone 5 camera is much faster than this s4. I get blurry images and my kids run off when the shutter activates. :crying:
laochek said:
Mine too. The fastest so far is the note 2 camera. Even my lousy iphone 5 camera is much faster than this s4. I get blurry images and my kids run off when the shutter activates. :crying:
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Try flashing via odin the newest firmware...
Tried different roms and i think it's really soft related.
Quite fast with stock android camera app but the pics are a downer compared to the stock rom app
leeomendes said:
Try flashing via odin the newest firmware...
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Now on MF8. same. Gotten over it. Now its overhreating:crying:
laochek said:
Now on MF8. same. Gotten over it. Now its overhreating:crying:
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just give up, root it and flash a custom kernel HAHAHA ^^
What was Samsung thinking? With 6.3 billion dollars worth of phones(retail that is) selling within the first month. If I was running that company I would SO look out for the little guy, the customer, they would be the first priority!! I would've made sure that the camera was functioning properly. Yeah, that's who I care about, when I'm in my jet or yacht, I'm thinking about the customer, yeah, they matter the most.

Request: Factory LG Camera app for AOSP based roms?

Hey folks. Wondering if someone can chime in on the possibility of this...
I want the Camera app from the factory LG rom to work on AOSP phones. only because its HDR ability was much better than any app I have tried to fill that void since I switched to CM. Also it's Manual focus was a nice feature among many other things.
I assume it'd need LG's Framework as well to make it work, but if anyone can try to piece this together, or get me the files Id need (I'm no longer on LG's rom) Id be very grateful!
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Hey folks. Wondering if someone can chime in on the possibility of this...
I want the Camera app from the factory LG rom to work on AOSP phones. only because its HDR ability was much better than any app I have tried to fill that void since I switched to CM. Also it's Manual focus was a nice feature among many other things.
I assume it'd need LG's Framework as well to make it work, but if anyone can try to piece this together, or get me the files Id need (I'm no longer on LG's rom) Id be very grateful!
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THIS! Would make running CM perfect for me.
WACOMalt said:
Hey folks. Wondering if someone can chime in on the possibility of this...
I want the Camera app from the factory LG rom to work on AOSP phones. only because its HDR ability was much better than any app I have tried to fill that void since I switched to CM. Also it's Manual focus was a nice feature among many other things.
I assume it'd need LG's Framework as well to make it work, but if anyone can try to piece this together, or get me the files Id need (I'm no longer on LG's rom) Id be very grateful!
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check out Focal on the play store?
fuego3048 said:
THIS! Would make running CM perfect for me.
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Please no"Me 2!" posts, they dont help the conversation.
steveo17 said:
check out Focal on the play store?
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Focal is going to perform roughly the same as stock CM camera. We need the stock LG camera from the G2 as it can better interface with the hardware, not to mention has device specific tuning for the hardware. No other camera will be able to compete with the stock G2 camera.
To the request, i spent some time trying to get it to work few days ago. Not much progress, others have posted that hey manged to get the camera app to completely start up and take pictures, i have not made this much progress. Wish they would have posted theirs.
There is already a discussion about this in the Att-dev section.
steveo17 said:
check out Focal on the play store?
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Focal doesnt work for me. I'm on newest CM nightly, and pressing the shutter button in focal causes a FC every time.
As an update, I took the apks and odexs from the LG rom for LGCamera CameraTestApp, LGGallery and the framework-res from the old rom. I tried sideloading the apps with no luck, they wont even show up in my app drawer. I assume I need to install the LG framework alongside CM framework, but that's beyond me.
Lenovo super camera
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masri1987 said:
Lenovo super camera
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No (working) manual ISO control
dagrim1 said:
No (working) manual ISO control
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And it doesnt work at all on CM.
The newest CM update added HDR and it seems to work exactly as with LG camera app. But we still need 13MP. CM's app is 8MP currently.
WACOMalt said:
And it doesnt work at all on CM.
The newest CM update added HDR and it seems to work exactly as with LG camera app. But we still need 13MP. CM's app is 8MP currently.
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not sure which build you're on but i can snap at 13 MP on the 10/28
Weird... I'm on 10/30 nightly. I only have 8MP available.
jug6ernaut said:
Please no"Me 2!" posts, they dont help the conversation.
Focal is going to perform roughly the same as stock CM camera. We need the stock LG camera from the G2 as it can better interface with the hardware, not to mention has device specific tuning for the hardware. No other camera will be able to compete with the stock G2 camera.
To the request, i spent some time trying to get it to work few days ago. Not much progress, others have posted that hey manged to get the camera app to completely start up and take pictures, i have not made this much progress. Wish they would have posted theirs.
There is already a discussion about this in the Att-dev section.
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Hi, is it not possible to download the lg package from one of the g2 standard roms some of them have packages with all the original g2 apps in or am i mistaken about what you want ?
Is this what you were looking for?
Edit: It's a WIP, but hopefully it will work well soon.
TNT321BOOM said:
Is this what you were looking for?
Edit: It's a WIP, but hopefully it will work well soon.
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If it works...possibly. The LGCameraAppTest2 is the lg cam, but it FC's, the CameraTest5 doesnt look like its form the g2.
masri1987 said:
Lenovo super camera
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Although this camera is awesome. We can't use the volume to take pics. Fc every time. Also burst mode Fc and shutter sound still goes off even though you enable it.
I love the ui of lenovo very aesthetic.
Just with burst mode worked with the volume button.
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Amalence makes the software the G2 uses for image processing, and they also have their own Camera software. It's virtually identical to LG's stock camera app, it just has a different skin.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almalence.opencam
If you compare the stock to this, you'll see what I mean. It's the same camera as stock but with a different (IMO, better) skin.
DeaconBoogie said:
Amalence makes the software the G2 uses for image processing, and they also have their own Camera software. It's virtually identical to LG's stock camera app, it just has a different skin.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almalence.opencam
If you compare the stock to this, you'll see what I mean. It's the same camera as stock but with a different (IMO, better) skin.
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Do you have a source for saying amalence is the company making LG's camera software? The program is similar yes, but not as good in my opinion. The HDR images are slower to snap and don't look as good to me. There is no "VR Panorama" or whatever LG called their photosphere mode
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Do you have a source for saying amalence is the company making LG's camera software? The program is similar yes, but not as good in my opinion. The HDR images are slower to snap and don't look as good to me. There is no "VR Panorama" or whatever LG called their photosphere mode
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Regardless its not going to have the device specific tuning of the stock camera.
DeaconBoogie said:
Amalence makes the software the G2 uses for image processing, and they also have their own Camera software. It's virtually identical to LG's stock camera app, it just has a different skin.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almalence.opencam
If you compare the stock to this, you'll see what I mean. It's the same camera as stock but with a different (IMO, better) skin.
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I used that to take a night pic with it yesterday, the result was horrible.
With "A Better Camera"
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13273417/Android Crap/2013-11-01 03.57.29.jpg
With stock AOSP (Carbon camera)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13273417/Android Crap/2013-11-01 00.01.33.jpg
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I used that to take a night pic with it yesterday, the result was horrible.
With "A Better Camera"
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13273417/Android Crap/2013-11-01 03.57.29.jpg
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Here are some shots i took. I still want the stock camera.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/18ljjw6c42icyme/A_Better_Camera.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s2hfwiipvncjb08/CM.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hr0lkbgr5bdh8fe/AOSP_Nexus.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9a5y1db1yk0n34h/STOCK_HDR.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8uappy5ifphq361/STOCK.jpg
Note that the A_Better_Camera requires time to take 3 separate images, a good 1-1.5 seconds. The results are good tho.
I highly prefer the CM camera's HDR to A better camera, and I can't honestly tell the difference from the lg camera. The only thing missing is photosphere. I can use Focal for that, oddly enough that's the only feature that works in focal for me.
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[Q] Camera so slow...

So I'm guessing its the device being slow but I wanted to see what everyone else had experienced and if there is a fix.
Basically I find the camera terrible. The only way to get a decent shot with less than perfect light is to use the stabilizer, which as many of you know slows down the pictures as it has to process the picture. This is VERY annoying to me. My iPhone 5s takes a much better shot and instantly without processing.
Has anyone found a fix for this be it prop settings or alternate camera apps?
I have to imagine there is a fix for this...
My last iPhone was the 5 (had the 4s before it). Apple sure has the whole "just works" thing down. That said, I REALLY like the Note 3 camera and the screen - I think it's better than the 5 - but in low light, the processing thing is INCREDIBLY ANNOYING. For a phone with this hardware, you'd think a 2 second "processing" bar would be a thing of the past.
Yea, so anyone find a fix? I want to take pics of my kid and don't have time to wait between pictures...
Drachnem said:
Yea, so anyone find a fix? I want to take pics of my kid and don't have time to wait between pictures...
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I am also interested - so "bump" --- I can't stand the "processing." I remember the 4.3 roms had a mention that prevented this. I wonder if the 4.4.2 roms will get it?
Bonniecal said:
yah it's right but i think it can take a very nice picture. for this it take much time. i knew an apps like as capture it. but it will not good for note 3. thanks
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Gladyscoleman said:
Root your cell phone to get rid of this.
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I mean seriously. Are these two accounts just for straight trolling or what? I'm so confused.
A Fix!
Hey guys I found a fix!
After poking around on my rom (Beans) I noticed they had the option for the CM 11 camera app so I grabbed it...
BOOM instantly better quality, speed, the works. :good:
So seems like the stock camera app was just terrible. CM got it right and now I'm really happy with the quality.
I compared both cameras and in almost ever case the note 3 was on par or even better than my 5s.
If you guys want some compare shots between both android cams and vs. iphone 5s let me know and i'll post some.
If you want the CM 11 camera I'm sure a little goggling will get you the APK. :laugh:
I'd also love to see what your experiences are and if you found the CM camera app to your liking.
Drachnem said:
Hey guys I found a fix!
After poking around on my rom (Beans) I noticed they had the option for the new camera app (from kitkat) so I grabbed it...
BOOM instantly better quality, speed, the works. :good:
So seems like the stock camera app was just terrible. Kitkat got it right and now I'm really happy with the quality.
I compared both cameras and in almost ever case the note 3 was on par or even better than my 5s.
If you guys want some compare shots between both android cams and vs. iphone 5s let me know and i'll post some.
If you want the KitKat camera I'm sure a little goggling will get you the APK. :laugh:
I'd also love to see what your experiences are and if you found the KitKat camera app to your liking.
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If it's the Google camera you can get it from the Play Store also.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera
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If it's the Google camera you can get it from the Play Store also.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera
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No, it is not this one. Let me take a shot of the app.
Drachnem said:
No, it is not this one. Let me take a shot of the app.
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Please see attached
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Please see attached
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Ahhh, the CM11 camera.
airmaxx23 said:
Ahhh, the CM11 camera.
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Ah ok, CM 11. Well its awesome.
I really miss a macro mode. I take a lot of close up detail photos for work. Now I use an eye loupe over the lens and it actually works better than before but.. you would have to carry it in your pocket...
On a side note I find the kit kat camera faster than the jellybean camera.
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I really miss a macro mode. I take a lot of close up detail photos for work. Now I use an eye loupe over the lens and it actually works better than before but.. you would have to carry it in your pocket...
On a side note I find the kit kat camera faster than the jellybean camera.
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The CM11 camera has macro mode.
Can anyone provide a link to a legitimate download for the CM11 camera? I'm always a little worried of an apk from a Google search. Lol. Unless it is from a reputable website.
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Adam Browning said:
Can anyone provide a link to a legitimate download for the CM11 camera? I'm always a little worried of an apk from a Google search. Lol. Unless it is from a reputable website.
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HERE ya go, I uploaded it to my Box account for you. Enjoy.
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HERE ya go, enjoy.
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Very much appreciate it! Please accept my "Thanks" as payment.
Adam Browning said:
Very much appreciate it! Please accept my "Thanks" as payment.
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Not a problem, hopefully you like it.

[DISCUSSION] 5.1 Lollipop for Titan [CONFIRMED]

5.1 confirmed
5.1 even more confirmed lol
Pizza_Dox said:
This is the discussion thread for 5.1 Lollipop.
My Opinion:
~ I just hope 5.1 is smooth and the ram issues are gone.
Can we build a list of current known info regarding 5.1; changes, fixes, issues and etc...
Current Known Info:
~ Only for Android One devices currently.
~ Post #22 with screenshots
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It will be release in march ( as an htc ceo said )
luca020400 said:
It will be release in march ( as an htc ceo said )
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Well i hope it will be released early in march... or at least for the source code to go up early in march so that we can hop onto CM12.1
As far as I am seeing by recent videos of 5.1 on Android One mediatek devices ,, its running more smoother even with that native screen recoding .Although new features are already on the web ,, exciting to see what/how Moto cook it for us
@Pizza_Dox I want moto display to
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which are the profits by using 3.10 instead of 3.4?
Pizza_Dox said:
This is the discussion thread for 5.1 Lollipop.
My Opinion:
~ I just hope 5.1 is smooth and the ram issues are gone.
Can we build a list of current known info regarding 5.1; changes, fixes, issues and etc...
Current Known Info:
~ Only for Android One devices currently.
~ Release Date: March
~ Screenshots
~ 3.10 Linux Kernel
~ The horrible silent mode is still there...
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-Little tweaks: sim dialer colors, silent mode until next alarm, direct unlock sliding qs at lockscreen...
-Direct wifi and bluetooth panels on qs
sky0165 said:
which are the profits by using 3.10 instead of 3.4?
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A lot of stability improvements and a lot of i/o request stuff, basically smoother android and better battery life
Potato. said:
@Pizza_Dox I want moto display to [emoji14]
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Ikr I like that feature, very useful for when my phones on the desk / in pocket.
[email protected] said:
As far as I am seeing by recent videos of 5.1 on Android One mediatek devices ,, its running more smoother even with that native screen recoding .Although new features are already on the web ,, exciting to see what/how Moto cook it for us
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I know, its shocking actually, I dunno what kind of improvements they made cause its actually very smooth in the animations and there is no ui stuttering or lag like there is in all these 5.0.2 ROMs, i can't wait
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-Little tweaks: sim dialer colors, silent mode until next alarm, direct unlock sliding qs at lockscreen...
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Oh sweet, yes I like the silent until next alarm feature, very useful for me
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All i want is Camera API 2 support (3.0 + is already in development it seems!! I wouldn't feel if the camera doesn't support but its the same sensor as Nexus 5 (As some reviews say) and a software feature i wish Motorola includes in it or atleast some one from xda finds a way to enable it!!
raju sesharaj said:
All i want is Camera API 2 support (3.0 + is already in development it seems!! I wouldn't feel if the camera doesn't support but its the same sensor as Nexus 5 (As some reviews say) and a software feature i wish Motorola includes in it or atleast some one from xda finds a way to enable it!!
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Cool, well im not a big camera guy, quick snap here and there, otherwise i like the camera, what benefits does the new camera api bring in?
I just hope for a memory fix and the ui being smoothed out and less laggy...
Manual Controls!! I do like the simplicity of the Motorola Camera app but the Camera Sensor being the same as Nexus 5 would definitely improve with camera api 2.0 just check out some shots of N5 using camera api 2, especially low light. The camera of Moto G (2014) is amazing for its price except the software which limits it to great extent. Just wish Nokia makes an Camera App similar to its Windows Phone app with Camera api 2.0 support. Nokia Lumia 520 surprises me with its amazing camera performance while no phone is near in the same price range in android universe!!
Yes, it's true about our Moto G ship the same Nexus 5 camera sensor. The only difference is that Nexus 5 has OIS.
http://www.techspot.com/review/888-motorola-moto-g-2014/page3.html
The sensor + SoC support 1080p video recording, but it seems moto was lazy to develop the camera.
Can't we just borrow nexus 5 drivers????
Does anybody know if the Moto G 2nd gen will get an update to 5.1?
How likely do you think it is? I'm guessing the jump from 4.4 to 5.0 was not easy because drivers etc, but from 5.0 to 5.1 of your Motorola you don't have to worry about hardware problems so it should be a matter of weeks once 5.1 is official...?
What do you think. Quick OTA fix?
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Does anybody know if the Moto G 2nd gen will get an update to 5.1?
How likely do you think it is? I'm guessing the jump from 4.4 to 5.0 was not easy because drivers etc, but from 5.0 to 5.1 of your Motorola you don't have to worry about hardware problems so it should be a matter of weeks once 5.1 is official...?
What do you think. Quick OTA fix?
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I think it'll take them until beginning of May at most to release it.
On the 23rd of March android 5.1 will come to our device.
patvdzwan said:
On the 23rd of March android 5.1 will come to our device.
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source?
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source?
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I read in some articles that it will come at the end of March, and Shawn5162 saying he has a friend at Motorola who said that it will come the 23rd, so that can be right.
sky0165 said:
Yes, it's true about our Moto G ship the same Nexus 5 camera sensor. The only difference is that Nexus 5 has OIS.
http://www.techspot.com/review/888-motorola-moto-g-2014/page3.html
The sensor + SoC support 1080p video recording, but it seems moto was lazy to develop the camera.
Can't we just borrow nexus 5 drivers????
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This is exactly what i thought. I had this doubt for a long time and i thought it'd be stupid to ask. Now that i know the sensors are same, library edits and media codec edits should bring 1080p recording to our phone. Any interested devs out there?
There must be some issues otherwise any dev could've already made it! I still have some hope that someone will find a way to enable camera api 2.0+ support so we could enjoy snapping with our Moto more! and Snapdragon 400 Soc does supports 1080p encoding and decoding and camera is capable of 1080p recording so it is possible with adequate dev support and kernel sources we may get!!
Speaking of ram management, I just read in a nexus 5 thread that it looks like it's been fixed and the device is working like a charm.
Surely, it's the nexus 5 we're talking about and it hasn't been a full day yet, but someone says the apps are opening/switching much faster and that launcher redraws have been non existent as of now.
Wonder how titan will deal with that. After all, the android one devices haven't really got impressive specs but they still seem to deliver quite well, right?

Camera questions

Hey guys,
I'm intending to buy a new moto x pure for a relatively cheap price in my country and I've been reading about poor camera so can anyone tell me is it true??
Also I've been reading about the absence of camera2 api and the unability to install manual camera apps is it true??? And wasn't there any update to fix it???and is there anyway to enable it without having to root the phone??
And finally which 3rd party camera apps do you prefer?? And does google camera work fine and are its pictures better than stock app or worse???
Thx in advance
any answers please????
borchaniz said:
any answers please????
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Google Camera is no longer available, it has been pulled from the Play Store... When it was there, it worked fine.
Personally, I use Camera ZOOM FX... not that it is much better than anything else, but I bought it years ago on sale for 25¢, it works quite well, and I am familiar with it. It has a multitude of adjustments, although it is not using the Camera2 API.
The Manual Camera Compatibility app fails on all items it checks, the phone does not support the Camera2 API and unless Moto adds support in Nougat, we likely won't get.
This is not to say that the Moto X doesn't take good pictures... personally I think the picture quality is excellent for a smartphone, far better than most of the other phones in the family except my son's S7 Edge (which has a fantastic camera). The only real drawbacks in my opinion are the stock camera app (which is bad, wish we had the new Moto Camera app, it is much better) and the lack of OIS.
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Google Camera is no longer available, it has been pulled from the Play Store... When it was there, it worked fine.
Personally, I use Camera ZOOM FX... not that it is much better than anything else, but I bought it years ago on sale for 25¢, it works quite well, and I am familiar with it. It has a multitude of adjustments, although it is not using the Camera2 API.
The Manual Camera Compatibility app fails on all items it checks, the phone does not support the Camera2 API and unless Moto adds support in Nougat, we likely won't get.
This is not to say that the Moto X doesn't take good pictures... personally I think the picture quality is excellent for a smartphone, far better than most of the other phones in the family except my son's S7 Edge (which has a fantastic camera). The only real drawbacks in my opinion are the stock camera app (which is bad, wish we had the new Moto Camera app, it is much better) and the lack of OIS.
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Thx a lot;
Actually that's the point I really don't like the camera app that is there in the moto x!!! it really sucks But if You install the google app apk will it work??
(I mean like from here http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-3-2-045-release/)
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Thx a lot;
Actually that's the point I really don't like the camera app that is there in the moto x!!! it really sucks But if You install the google app apk will it work??
(I mean like from here http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-3-2-045-release/)
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Sorry... I will not install an app that requires me to enable Unknown Sources right now. Perhaps someone else can test it for you.
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Sorry... I will not install an app that requires me to enable Unknown Sources right now. Perhaps someone else can test it for you.
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OK Thx anyway I'm so grateful
borchaniz said:
Thx a lot;
Actually that's the point I really don't like the camera app that is there in the moto x!!! it really sucks But if You install the google app apk will it work??
(I mean like from here http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-3-2-045-release/)
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I've tried Google Camera on my Style but it faces crashes at times. I've installed HTC camera (new) and it works good. Pictures are really sharp.
You can download the stock moto camera from the play store which I feel works really well and takes great pictures.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.camera
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You can download the stock moto camera from the play store which I feel works really well and takes great pictures.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.camera
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Umm... that is the app that is included with the phone, it is not good. The new "4th generation" phone Moto camera app is quite good but unfortunately it isn't usable on a stock device.
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Umm... that is the app that is included with the phone, it is not good. The new "4th generation" phone Moto camera app is quite good but unfortunately it isn't usable on a stock device.
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Sorry hadn't had my coffee and I had been reading the development forum right before. Head wasn't on straight.
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Umm... that is the app that is included with the phone, it is not good. The new "4th generation" phone Moto camera app is quite good but unfortunately it isn't usable on a stock device.
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you can find the apk of the new Moto Camera on XDA
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you can find the apk of the new Moto Camera on XDA
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If you mean the G4 Apps thread in the Themes/Apps section that just goes to another link where you can download flashables and APKs, the APK doesn't work... Says something like "Your device is not supported" and exits.
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If you mean the G4 Apps thread in the Themes/Apps section that just goes to another link where you can download flashables and APKs, the APK doesn't work... Says something like "Your device is not supported" and exits.
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This version fixes that problem
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzN_CG03Ba9WYzJuTjFJRUUwSHM/view?pref=2&pli=1
data365 said:
This version fixes that problem
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzN_CG03Ba9WYzJuTjFJRUUwSHM/view?pref=2&pli=1
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No offense, but do you have a reference of where this file came from? I really don't like to install random APKs...
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No offense, but do you have a reference of where this file came from? I really don't like to install random APKs...
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I totally understand you concern, I downloaded the original apk from this post and than modified the file myself to enable professional mode and the debug menu.
i have yet to find a way to download apk directly from the play store but i keep looking from time to time.
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I totally understand you concern, I downloaded the original apk from this post and than modified the file myself to enable professional mode and the debug menu.
i have yet to find a way to download apk directly from the play store but i keep looking from time to time.
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How do you find professional mode in your apk? Is that the options in debug?
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How do you find professional mode in your apk? Is that the options in debug?
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You should find a new professional mode option in the camera mode menu found in the bottom right hand corner of the screen.
If you don't see the option it means that the ro.product.device setting in your build.prop file is not been set to one of the valid device names that will enable professional mode in this modified version of the app.
The list of device name that will enable professional mode in this version of the app are: athene, griffin, addison, clark, osprey, luk, kinzie and otus
From the 5 professional mode settings I discovered that the "Shutter speed" setting does not appear to work the on stock android 6.0.1 and somebody else reported that the "ISO" setting does not appear to work on android 6.0.0, "Manual focus", "White balance" and "Exposure" all appear to work as expected.
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borchaniz said:
Hey guys,
I'm intending to buy a new moto x pure for a relatively cheap price in my country and I've been reading about poor camera so can anyone tell me is true.
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I used the mod from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/cameramod-t3420739
and the FreeDcam app and my MXP is happily shooting manual/raw. defcomg even created a flat field correction file for the cam sensor. This little camera is producing images that rival those of my Canon 7D.
So I bought a moto x pure few days ago but I've been really busy moving to a new home in the city where I will attend university;
Thx for your help,
About the new phone I like the performance, camera is great but not as great as you would expect a 21mpx camera to be I mean it's sharp but details are Kind of blurry if you zoom in so much and dynamic range is unsatisfactory completed to my brother's Nexus 5x camera!
Best thing about it is the front panel! Front facing camera, screen and speakers (they're so damn loud)
Camera app isn't as bad as I thought but still not so good!
It just needs getting used to coming from my Nexus 5, Google camera was way more comfortable and makes a lot more sense! The only Google camera app that worked for me is the old one I Mean the one from KitKat times! Still a nice alternative with a slightly better color reproduction!
So if you find a way to make camera 2 api work or any better camera app please let me know
data365 said:
I totally understand you concern, I downloaded the original apk from this post and than modified the file myself to enable professional mode and the debug menu.
i have yet to find a way to download apk directly from the play store but i keep looking from time to time.
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BTW ISO and Shutter speed do not work, changing them won't affect the picture however white balance and manual focus work great!

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