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I can't seem to put this thing down.. it is stuck to my hand.. I refuse to let the display go to sleep.. Can't sleep, can't watch the playoffs, and my wife is officially jelous.. All that time spent loading custom roms tweaking my g1 forgotten to get any little bit of performance improvment.. Well those days are gone.. Finally THE Android phone..
Just wondering if anyone else was having this problem..
Give me an idea of what you're doing on it that can keep your attention that long? I'm having a hard time finding any applications that I would use that could interest me that much.
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Give me an idea of what you're doing on it that can keep your attention that long? I'm having a hard time finding any applications that I would use that could interest me that much.
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I have picked up the annoying habit of tapping the screen on the Nexus live wallpaper.
I know you guys have seen a million of these threads, i thought my thoughts on this phone would change. I have taken a lot of your suggestions. I have Flashed the phone, to try to get rid of the laggyness and freezing. I am running RSTG Sense UI rom, and while the phone is a little faster. I am still getting freezes,restarting, it never properly updates facebook/twitter/weather, without freezing. I really want to keep this phone, but the allure of the nexus One is starting to become too much, especially after watching my buddy pick up a Droid and playing with it.
I just want to know what i am doing wrong, i haven't installed any programs on this, i have a few albums, the pictures that came with it, basically what i am getting at is, i did not put anything on it, to make it this sluggish, 15 mins before i decided to type this, my phone froze, i tried to check an SMS from the GF, and couldn't get past the unlock screen, it just keep freezing.
I am open to suggestions, i want to keep this phone, but it sounds like Android for the HD2 will never happen, from what i heard, its still a good year away, and even with the release of the EVO, we still aren't promised to get an android release for the HD2. I am able to deal with Winmo, i have a touch pro and a fuze, hacked/flashed to death. So it's not entirely winmo.
I just need to know whats a good ROM to run, i have the utmost respect for all the devs that cook these ROMs, and put the time and effort into making them, but i need one that is going to make my phone stable, and not crash. I went through a lot to get my Dream phone, only to find out, its been a nightmare since getting it.
So i am turning to you guys, what can i do to make this phone a little more stable. Please spare me the usual crap talking. I am asking because i really want to keep this phone, and i have tried the flashing. This phone should be butter and not hiccup this much.
Any help is appreciated and wanted. Thanks for reading, and i hope i was clear enough. I read these forums everyday, so please don't tell me to search, hell my GF hates that i got an HD2, cuz i lurk here 24/7, i wake up and go to sleep reading XDA lol.
Get a nexous one
get the nexous one
The HTC/Sense SMS app is the cause for most of the problems of this phone. Disabling it completely and using the Windows SMS app would prevent much of what you're describing. Regardless of what ROM you use, if you use the HTC/Sense SMS app, you're asking for trouble.
I have the Kumar Premium 1.5 and don't have issues. Once in a long while, the phone will slow down, but then it's back to normal. I also use MMTaskManager and cleanRAM regularly to make sure I don't have lingering things in memory that could take up resources since I've been downloading and installing apps more than usual.
But, that said, I say get the Nexus One. If you need someone else to convince you to keep the phone after you've had it for a while and already tried a few things, then my guess is you'll find some other niggles about the phone that will irritate you down the road. Better to cut your loses and get the Android phone.
Good luck!
Well Divx movies, 4.3 inch screen and its a phone that you can browse the internet...Is it perfect.....Hell NO!!!!!!! Does it have to be restarted all the time..Probably 5 times a day if your running apps. It freezes all the time. I run custom roms. Is there a better phone? Not until EVO with android. By that time Skyfire will be out of beta for flash support and maybe the kernal further along supporting more video formats... I had the NEXUS loved it.."i lost it".but to slow on tmobile. Now i have a 4.3 inch screen i cant go smaller only larger.
I will try to disable the SMS setting and use Windows, and i agree, once you have a screen this big, its really hard to go smaller, thats why i posted here. I just want some tips on how to make this thing run properly. A phone with these kind of specs, should not have these kinds of problems. A little slow down here and there is understandable, but the constant freezing/restarting is annoying.
I don't want to just get rid of it, maybe i should try another rom after i change those SMS settings.
Any other suggestions on how i can make this phone perform the way it should be performing?
i really want to keep it.
Oh and i always use task manager.always.
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I will try to disable the SMS setting and use Windows, and i agree, once you have a screen this big, its really hard to go smaller, thats why i posted here.
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That's what she said
try another ROM, and try disabling some of the tabs in sense you don't use. Sense is the biggest culprit to crashes in my experience. No matter how powerful they make the HD2, if you keep a resource hogging piece of software running perpetually, it will slow things down. I close the tabs I don't use to minimize the performance draw. You can also try turning off the weather animations and the weather screen altogether. The weather animations are only fascinating for about a day anyway.
Trying another ROM is always a good route. I've used Kumars and Energy so far...both are very stable for me, and hardly ever crash.
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That's what she said
try another ROM, and try disabling some of the tabs in sense you don't use. Sense is the biggest culprit to crashes in my experience. No matter how powerful they make the HD2, if you keep a resource hogging piece of software running perpetually, it will slow things down. I close the tabs I don't use to minimize the performance draw. You can also try turning off the weather animations and the weather screen altogether. The weather animations are only fascinating for about a day anyway.
Trying another ROM is always a good route. I've used Kumars and Energy so far...both are very stable for me, and hardly ever crash.
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Thanks for the reply, i was thinking of using Kumars, i keep hearing great things about it. I don't want to turn off the weather animations cuz they always amuse me lol.
i am using engery rom the apr 9 regular 21898 very fast and stable rom for me so far.
after use it for 2 days just find out most the crash was cause by opera mobile 10 so i either change to the opera mini 5 which almost the same with the opera mobile 10 or i need to EXIT it competely. and by the way did you hard reset you hd2 after flash to the new rom? it will help for the lacking issue too
Turn off the security code on the lock screen! That thing mucks the phone up and slows it to a snail. My wife's was constantly freezing with that option on.
Also search here, download and install QuikMenu 2.8. Set the XButton to close on short tap and minimize on long hold. Then set it to close Activesync. Then go to pg 2 and make the size 16 or greater to make it pretty. FYI QuikMenu only works with roms that have the Start Menu on top. If you use one with the Start Menu on the bottom use Xtask. Having these programs will eliminate tons of programs running in the background but give you control over which ones will and won't.
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Thanks for the reply, i was thinking of using Kumars, i keep hearing great things about it. I don't want to turn off the weather animations cuz they always amuse me lol.
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If you're going to try Kumar's, he's coming out with a non-HTC Messaging version of his 1.6 soon. I'm waiting for that and his Titanium version that doesn't have Sense at all to try.
I've heard that the Elegancia w/o HTC Messaging may be an option as well.
Well, if you do decide to eventually sell it...
I'd strongly suggest investing in another Android handset. Perhaps the upcoming, myTouch Slide. It's quite a marvel in comparison to the original fan-favorite, the G1.
The build quality is excellent too, most likely it will feel, "less fragile" and easy to snap than our HD2. LOL!
^^lol no i am okay, think i will stick with the Nexus One, its the phone i always wanted, just decided to wait, because i knew the HD2 was coming soon. Thanks for all the tips guys, i did get an interesting offer, a Nexus One and 200 bucks. it;s tough, thats a nice chunk of money and a good phone lol. Still thinking about it.
I do know i need to try another ROM, this one is slowing my phone down like crazy, i haven't have to do 3 restarts in a day, in a very long time, since my early TP days. but i will try everything you guys recommended first.
I hate to say it but I have the exact same feeling about this phone... I'm Sitting on the fence between selling it and sticking it out. I really just bought it for hardware reasons thinking it was gonna slap it to my TP2 but I'm more into the Android OS. Granted Windows can DO a lot, Android has a market place that I don't have to waste that much money on. In A lot of ways I wish this was a nexus one lol
Currently I'm using the T-Mobile My Touch (rooted) / TP2 - NRG ROM / and now the HD2 - NRG rom blah blah blah
androidd said:
I hate to say it but I have the exact same feeling about this phone... I'm Sitting on the fence between selling it and sticking it out. I really just bought it for hardware reasons thinking it was gonna slap it to my TP2 but I'm more into the Android OS. Granted Windows can DO a lot, Android has a market place that I don't have to waste that much money on. In A lot of ways I wish this was a nexus one lol
Currently I'm using the T-Mobile My Touch (rooted) / TP2 - NRG ROM / and now the HD2 - NRG rom blah blah blah
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HD2 is the best phone ever. If you are really into it you will feel its power. I like cooking ROMs myself and I really enjoy the feeling of tweaking the phone just like it was made for myself.
Well, to be honest, HD2 is not suitable for everybody. If you want a cellphone that is easy to use, then it may be good to get an Android phone or an iphone.
I bet people who love HTC and Windows Mobile mostly are not afraid of software issue and willing to conquer all the problems. They will eventually make this phone work for themselves.
I remeber testing my frieds winmo 2003 back in high school and getting my first HTC wizard, winmo was beautiful back then I have had 7 winmo phones and You get use to reseting the phoene 5 times a day and dealing with other crap
however when the android came out and it completely change everything Now there was another option (I hate the iphone I think its over priced for a stupid friendly phone that's missing a lot of things that ny PPC2003 was already capable of doing) soon I have to go back to android
YOU SHOULD DO THE SAME unless you can deal with the laggingnes rebooting 5 times a day apps that are not compatible with every winmo phone all on asuper expensive phone (lol with the same money you can get a N1)
i dont understand why everyone keeps saying this phone lags i have had this phone for 2 weeks now and has only frooze up on me once. the only time my phone reboots is when i install a program that is recommended reboot after install. i dont get any laggs what so ever i am a power user from web to games to music videos pictues gps on a daily basis and trust me i know what it is dealing with lagg is because i hated the tp2 it would freeze up everyday take for ever to load programs always error this error that. so i think maybe you should exchange it for another one maybe its that phone.
also maybe it could be that when i 1st got the phone i did all does registry tweak that boost the performance on the phone in the general thread. maybe you should do hard reset and then the registry tweak.
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^^lol no i am okay, think i will stick with the Nexus One, its the phone i always wanted, just decided to wait, because i knew the HD2 was coming soon. Thanks for all the tips guys, i did get an interesting offer, a Nexus One and 200 bucks. it;s tough, thats a nice chunk of money and a good phone lol. Still thinking about it.
I do know i need to try another ROM, this one is slowing my phone down like crazy, i haven't have to do 3 restarts in a day, in a very long time, since my early TP days. but i will try everything you guys recommended first.
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That's a very good deal. I'd be all over that if I weren't using my HD2 as my work device. Hell if I ever ran into a Nexus One for 200 bucks, I'd sell my iPhone in a heartbeat.
Honestly, unless you really need WM functions, and if you can live with a smaller screen, the Nexus One is the way to go. The screen on the Nexus One may be smaller, but that AMOLED screen is lovely....very deep blacks, even though the colors are a little over-saturated. Can't wait till that technology comes over to full sized TV's.
It was quite a change going to the HD2. I sat in the store playing with one for 2.5 hours before I decided to get the HD2. I knew it was going to be a learning experience coming from an iphone to WMobile but I could see straight away the amount of personal customization this has over the iphone. I personally cannot see how anyone can even compare it to the iphone as some do.
I spent nearly 15 hours in the first few days getting to know how to navigate through the phone and the file structure and redoing itunes. I read some great tips on this forum, such as formatting SD card and making all songs Mp3 so as the music player would not freeze and it's not locked up once. It's like a personal computer in my hand next to the iphone. Since I was still on a 2G iphone, the HD2 is so much faster, it's not even funny. No lock ups unless I do not restart after software install or mods. It seems that I have the latest tmo manila. My phone works great and the screen is incredible. It doesn't fit in my pocket like my iphone did but until there's an organic flip out holographic screen of some sort, it's the price I'll pay for the size of the screen.
Took off RTSG(sp) ROM and installed KUMAR's, i must say, Kumar, you saved this phone, your ROM is amazing, i haven't had any problems with it besides a little lag when i go to the home screen from time to time. Man this made me love the phone even more.
Did get an offer off, 400 dollars and a Blackberry 9700 brand new in the box. I was tempted because of the money, but in the end decided to keep my HD2. As long as it keeps running like this, i am satisfied. It's nice when everything is working the way it should be. thanks kumar, and thanks to the rest of you guys who responded to my thread.
I have made a new boot animation for NRGZ28, it's still in its early stages, and can only hope I have time for more. I'm a huge fan with what he has done to my phone, and he has compelled me to give back to the community.
My goal here was simple. Sometimes I forget(as im sure some of you do to) what it was like owning a stock Rhodium, and i cant even remember what the GUI even looked like. NRGZ28's ROMS, although amazing, does not change dramatically enough for me to be mesmerized everytime i pick my phone up as it used to. Although I'm sure this wont entirely do it either, it will at least remind you of what you hold in your hand! Or something like that anyways, i was never really good at public speeches
This should work for any of his ROMS
P.S.~~if anyone could post some feedback on how far the animation goes on your devices that would be great! that means the leo, rhodium, Raphael... and any other devices that have a screen of that size, on both energyrom and stock roms.. or any roms for those devices. and if you know a way to change the length given for the animations let me know pronto!! I recieved a new warranty phone and the animation isnt playing the same length anymore. not sure if this is due to newer updated roms or the fact that the energyroms tp2 splash screen isnt on there anymore, just shows the ATT splash screen. thanks
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1) At least on my Rhodium, the last second or 2 wont play. (the fade out) It will simply hang on the image for a few seconds. (which works just as good) The orginal was 14 seconds long and i had to speed it up as i am unaware of a way to customize the time wm gives for the boot animation. So if anyone knows of a registry setting or a program that will do this. let me know ASAP!
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That looks really cool from the screenshots, the bouncing and then the electric explosion looking thing... haha. Cool work.
Any chance of having it just say HTC there instead of NRG? I think you would get quite a few more downloads/donations.
Also, a short video or gif would be cool so we can see what we're getting!
Idea for Startup Animation
Hi There,
I am a huge fan of energy Roms as well!
I thought the following would be cool!
X-mens wolverine blades comming through a screen shot making the famous-x and the at the bottom Energy ROM...
Wish I knew how to but maybe you can do this for us??
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That looks really cool from the screenshots, the bouncing and then the electric explosion looking thing... haha. Cool work.
Any chance of having it just say HTC there instead of NRG? I think you would get quite a few more downloads/donations.
Also, a short video or gif would be cool so we can see what we're getting!
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Hmm.. that sounds like a fantastic idea! so the problem is.. start up a new thread for more generic animations, or just change the name and make categories in this one?
Will most likely be uploading a youtube video of it today.
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Hi There,
I am a huge fan of energy Roms as well!
I thought the following would be cool!
X-mens wolverine blades comming through a screen shot making the famous-x and the at the bottom Energy ROM...
Wish I knew how to but maybe you can do this for us??
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Yes, this was my first concept design.. but depending on where the X goes, it might require that i make hands and wrist at least(which is a little bit of work ) unless it slashes with the blades coming through the background..i forget.
i don't know the legality of putting the original wolverine slash in there, (and wheres the fun in that? ) but i will see what i can do
If anyone knows of some good x slash video's, post them up! as i seem to be having a ridiculously hard time finding any. people need to make tags better! you would think there would be hundreds popping up! but no, with the game out all i find is gameplays for origins-wolverine
i like it alot
i think its awsome. wish i had skill like that !
I agree, this is a stunning job!!
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i think its awsome. wish i had skill like that !
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well i went to school for it.. its now my $30,000 hobby YAY ITT-Tech
GREAT work man, i installed it,and it turns out that the XBOX360 startup sound lines up nicely with the animation, thats what i use now, if anyone wants the sound i'll link it up
what course man
i want some ! get some Comp on the table. better then heating and AC
thesyntax said:
GREAT work man, i installed it,and it turns out that the XBOX360 startup sound lines up nicely with the animation, thats what i use now, if anyone wants the sound i'll link it up
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yea it sounds pretty good. maybe i could add a separate cab file that has both in it. its not copy write infringement if i dont sell it right? haha
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i want some ! get some Comp on the table. better then heating and AC
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maybe its the lack of sleep.. but could you rephrase that? lol
i graduated in Information Technology-Multimedia
nice ..... i like jokes
just googled the closet one from me Bennsalem Pa not that bad.! how long did you go for ?
I liKE it too
venomshot629 said:
That looks really cool from the screenshots, the bouncing and then the electric explosion looking thing... haha. Cool work.
Any chance of having it just say HTC there instead of NRG? I think you would get quite a few more downloads/donations.
Also, a short video or gif would be cool so we can see what we're getting!
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...But alas I am not using energy rom. Please consider making it for HTC.
gplock said:
just googled the closet one from me Bennsalem Pa not that bad.! how long did you go for ?
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I went for 2 years. I got 2 weeks off for winter break, and 1 week off for summer break. if you want your summer off you can have them add another 3 months for each summer. thats just for the associates degree. its another year for the bachelor degree and that gets you ready for making video games.
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...But alas I am not using energy rom. Please consider making it for HTC.
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I will work on it as soon as i get a chance. Hopefully tomorrow or the next day. I will also try and do this for every boot screen I make. There will of course be a few that are only for energyrom
So I tend to answer more questions that I ask on here, but now it's my turn!!
So, I've noticed at times that my KF is totally unresponsive from sleep. No power light, nothing. I have to press the power button for 20 seconds, then again to power on. This used to happen every so often on the Stock ROM.
However, since I've been on CM7 w/ TWRP/FFF, it hangs up every single day. At first I thought it was due to low charge, but it's doing it whilst the battery is over 90% full. I've had a nose around the CM7 settings and tweaks, but can't see anything obvious.
Running services at startup are:
Settings (presumably because I'm looking at settings to see this info!)
Google Services
Amazon Video (Not sure why this is running. I may uninstall to see if this is the problem) - Uninstalled. Will see how it goes.
DSPManager
Swype
Anybody else seen this? Anybody else got any ideas on how to resolve this?
Do a search for V6 SuperCharger and do some research on it I use it on my Fire and my 2 Android Phones it really helps with memory management
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I've not experienced this problem. My kindle fire has been pretty much perfect and I've never had to force a reboot. I'm also using the Sywpe keyboard.
asb2164 said:
Do a search for V6 SuperCharger and do some research on it I use it on my Fire and my 2 Android Phones it really helps with memory management
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Thanks, but I don't think memory is the problem here (I have 282MB free system memory right now). Something is putting it to sleep permanently.
I guess it's going to be a process of elimination. I might possibly go back to stock to see if it's really CM7 or the device hardware itself playing up.
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Thanks, but I don't think memory is the problem here (I have 282MB free system memory right now). Something is putting it to sleep permanently.
I guess it's going to be a process of elimination. I might possibly go back to stock to see if it's really CM7 or the device hardware itself playing up.
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I would not even bother reading the information I provided, reading is pretty hard chase a lot of gremlins first instead of the running a Script.
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I would not even bother reading the information I provided, reading is pretty hard chase a lot of gremlins first instead of the running a Script.
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Wow, seriously?!
I *did* read about it, and concluded that it was a memory management app. Given my symptoms, I cannot find one example of where this app would help me, and I'm not about to install something that is possibly just going to add further variables to an already odd behavior.
Show me where you think it's going to help (specific examples), and I'll gladly accept your thanks/suggestions.
Until then, I would ask you keep your snark for sites like Slashdot.
You did not read about it if you had you would have known it is not an app but a Script.
I do not hold people's hand and give links I make you search for it I am sure someone will come along and make you a video
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You did not read about it if you had you would have known it is not an app but a Script.
I do not hold people's hand and give links I make you search for it I am sure someone will come along and make you a video
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Again, Wow Seriously?!
Your definition of me not reading is based on me calling it an app over a script!? Interesting logic there.
However, I'm still wondering how you deduce that this is going to help my problem, and hence why I asked for specifics. I'm quite capable of finding information, but it's like you saying to me "Dude, install Angry Birds, it will solve all your problems". My conclusion was that there was nothing in that post that specifies "This will also help your system if it sleeps permanently" (clearly I'm paraphrasing there, just in case that wasn't clear). If I'm missing something, I'm all ears, but blindly recommending apps for no reason is no help to anyone.
Other than almost every decent ROM you will find on XDA already has this built into it and it will help I will leave it at that.
You also may try to wipe Data, Cache and Dalvik I usually do that at least 3 times on my HTC EVO Shift when I flash a new rom before it runs good.
Try that and see if it helps.
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Other than almost every decent ROM you will find on XDA already has this built into it and it will help I will leave it at that.
You also may try to wipe Data, Cache and Dalvik I usually do that at least 3 times on my HTC EVO Shift when I flash a new rom before it runs good.
Try that and see if it helps.
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It may well be the CM7 ROM that was compiled for the KF, but what also makes me suspicious now is for the number of reads on this thread, not one other person has said "Yeah, I have the same issues", which either leads me to believe its a resident app, or possibly something wrong with my hardware. I'll keep digging, and possibly flash back to stock (as I said).
For the benefit of doubt, I'll always do a Factory Reset, and wipe all the Cache/Dalvik Cache. It's something I've done since I was flashing ROM's on my first Droid. But thanks for the suggestion.
You may have a bad flash back up your apps and re-flash CM7 and restore your apps and see if that helps.
I have rooted and flashed a lot of phones and I have had that happen a couple of times I re did the flash and everything was fine.
asb2164 said:
You may have a bad flash back up your apps and re-flash CM7 and restore your apps and see if that helps.
I have rooted and flashed a lot of phones and I have had that happen a couple of times I re did the flash and everything was fine.
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I guess it's entirely possible. I'll do a Titanium Backup now, re-flash, and see what happens. But as mentioned in my OP, I had this happen on stock 6.2, just not as frequently, so I'll be hoping that it is a bad flash, and not something inherently worse.
See how much better this conversation is now!
Sounds fishy to me as well. Did you clear the caches when installing new ROMs? I've had mine since it was release and have yet to have it hang and I've had 6.1,6.2, and now CM7 running flawlessly
Your problem is a bit unique so I don't mind throwing out a few ideas.
Mine is solid as a rock I am ready for a good overclocking kernel so I can stretch it's legs
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altitude909 said:
Sounds fishy to me as well. Did you clear the caches when installing new ROMs? I've had mine since it was release and have yet to have it hang and I've had 6.1,6.2, and now CM7 running flawlessly
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Yep, I always clear everything when moving to a new ROM. It's a habit that was drilled into me during my first custom ROM exploits on my Droid. I've even told people on here to do it too, so I'm practicing what I'm preaching!
I think what I'm going to do is, reflash to stock 6.2.1, use the new root method, push TWRP/FFF again, and then CM7. A little drastic, but I think that having a clean run at this might prove/disprove the theory.
My stock rom does this occasionally. Have to hold the power button for 20 secs to reset it.
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My stock rom does this occasionally. Have to hold the power button for 20 secs to reset it.
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Yeah, this is happening a little too frequently for my liking. Occasionally is fairly OK, every day is not. But it has got worse since going to CM7, but that could be purely coincidence at this point.
Trying some different things right now, but it will be a few days before I know for certain.
This may not be the problem at all, but I'll toss it out here anyway. On some of my Archos tablets, I have had this issue where the screen brightness was set very low. Anyway, if your brightness is set low, you might increase it to see if that makes a difference. I don't remember exactly at what level this problem starts, but I think it is when it is set below 20%.
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This may not be the problem at all, but I'll toss it out here anyway. On some of my Archos tablets, I have had this issue where the screen brightness was set very low. Anyway, if your brightness is set low, you might increase it to see if that makes a difference. I don't remember exactly at what level this problem starts, but I think it is when it is set below 20%.
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Thanks, that hadn't crossed my mind, but I like my brightness at a pretty high level, and as the sensor is not working currently, it pretty much stays at that level.
Back at stock 6.2.1 now. Going to root it and leave it like this for a few days to see what happens.
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It may well be the CM7 ROM that was compiled for the KF, but what also makes me suspicious now is for the number of reads on this thread, not one other person has said "Yeah, I have the same issues", which either leads me to believe its a resident app, or possibly something wrong with my hardware. I'll keep digging, and possibly flash back to stock (as I said).
For the benefit of doubt, I'll always do a Factory Reset, and wipe all the Cache/Dalvik Cache. It's something I've done since I was flashing ROM's on my first Droid. But thanks for the suggestion.
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Not sure if you have resloved this issue, but having read most of the Forum Dev Thread for the CM7 initial release and the newest reboot of the first ROM I think many others are having this issue as well. I remember reading many post people were referring to something similar to your problem as "the sleep of death." I however am not having that problem with mine, but thought it might be helpful to know that it might not be your device specific and may be something with CM7 itself with some devices.
As the title states. Nexus 4 random power offs. Has anyone seen anything like this?
Here is the background info:
My parents have Nexus 4 phones as do I. All of our phones were ordered at the same time about 2 months or so ago when they became available again. All phones are the 16GB version. All phones bone stock with just OTA updates, not unlocked or rooted other than how they are shipped. All using T-Mobile prepaid plans.
My phone and my father's seem fine. My mom's however seems to shutdown on its own. It is random. Initially I thought that it may be an issue where she isn't used to a smart phone and isn't charging it enough. It happens though at times while it is connected to the charger. It also has happened while carrying it off the charger.
One odd thing is that when they got the phone they brought them to my house and dropped them off to have me set them up. One had the plastic screen protector with the printing on it from the factory the other didn't. I don't know which is which though now. It is a 50/50 shot if this is the one.
I have been around android since the G1 days and run the same phone. I can't think of a setting on the phone that would power it down at a certain time or period of time. She really doesn't have much for apps and is a very light user.
Not sure what to try but I was thinking about doing a wipe of the phone to see if it helps.
Anyone else have any ideas? If the wipe doesn't help the only other thing I can think of is that there is a physical issue with the phone.
I haven't seen this on my phone but there was a period of time where HD Widgets on my N7 would cause a reboot. That was fixed with an app update. This isn't a case where the device reboots. It is a complete shutdown which I find odd. So I have seen an app cause issues kind of like this. For the most part the apps that she has on her phone, I also have on mine. Well I have way more but there really isn't anything on her phone that I am not also running.
I should add that she has the phone in a TPU case. As we all do. My case design is a little different than theirs but they have cutouts for the buttons. So it isn't a case where the case is pressing on the power button. That could be an issue with my case as it covers the power button but I haven't had that issue.
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Sounds like it might be a defective battery...
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BigDig said:
Sounds like it might be a defective battery...
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That is what I am kind of thinking. Either the battery or the smart battery chips. I think I will try a wipe first but like I said but it is odd.
sennister said:
One odd thing is that when they got the phone they brought them to my house and dropped them off to have me set them up. One had the plastic screen protector with the printing on it from the factory the other didn't. I don't know which is which though now. It is a 50/50 shot if this is the one.
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That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.
amartolos said:
That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.
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I don't want to root and have my mom run a modified ROM. They live about a half hour from me so I haven't tried a wipe of the phone yet and because of the distance I don't want to deal with the issues that sometimes come up when you go with modified ROMs when I am not there. She is a very basic user and this is the first smartphone for my father and mother. Keep in mind they are in their early 70s and not really that strong on the tech side of things. I have to get some time to run over there and take a look at it. Maybe later next week.
I was just wondering if anyone else has had this issue. I think if a wipe doesn't help I will talk to Google. A search really didn't show much other than some people that were seeing a random reboot issue. I have seen apps doing that.
I have been through their warranty replacement process and it is a bit of a PITA. I am on my 3rd Nexus 7 due to hardware issues with the first 2. My N4 and my fathers have been rock solid.
While I have run custom ROMs in the past, I usually run stock until I find a need that requires me to root. Eventually I will probably root and go with a custom ROM on my N4 but
sennister said:
She is a very basic user and this is the first smartphone for my father and mother. Keep in mind they are in their early 70s and not really that strong on the tech side of things.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm giving my parents my old LG P990 phone and I just put an AOKP rom on it. I also installed Nova Launcher for them and configured it so there's just one texting app and one calling app the one and only one homescreen. No dock either, just in case they click something by accident or get lost in the app drawer
Since you have the same phone as your mom, a self-less workaround would just be to give her yours (pre-configured), and then you can fiddle around with the problematic one until you find a decent solution. :good:
amartolos said:
That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.
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amartolos said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm giving my parents my old LG P990 phone and I just put an AOKP rom on it. I also installed Nova Launcher for them and configured it so there's just one texting app and one calling app the one and only one homescreen. No dock either, just in case they click something by accident or get lost in the app drawer
Since you have the same phone as your mom, a self-less workaround would just be to give her yours (pre-configured), and then you can fiddle around with the problematic one until you find a decent solution. :good:
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Hmm. That is a good idea. The PITA part would be to get everything loaded from my phone to hers. I really wish I could run Titanium backup without root as it would make it super easy to move the apps over. Though I don't have that much loaded on my phone. Things that are a pain to set up have configuration export methods like Tasker. It would rule out the end user being the source of the issue. I don't think that is it though. If we swap and it goes away, then I can consider the wipe as the solution. If the problem moves to me then it is a physical issue and call Google. If the problem persists with her, I load all her apps on the phone I carry as well to see if I start to have the issue or it becomes a training issue. The thing I like about this the most is that it is a clear process to rule out several things. I can go over there and sit with the phone but if it doesn't power off when I am there I don't gain much other than spending some time with my parents.
I don't think this is an issue but I did have to provide my IMEI# when doing the activations. In the past though on T-Mobile I have handed phones down to others and all we did was a SIM swap. I would imagine that is the case here.
Oh and one thing I did leave out. They were using their old cell phone chargers on the N4 phones. I told them to swap chargers and use the ones that came with the phone. The old ones may not put out enough power and the phone could in theory run down to the point where it shuts off and slowly charge from that point and I don't think it would turn back on. Keep in mind a retired user who just had a knee replacement so she is at home more often than not.
Did you find out the cause? I have the same issue happened twice today
The random shut off either charging or not happens to me but as mentioned before in a related thread, a lot of the times it also happens on Wi-Fi, and having WiFi optimization on.. purple were turning that off and some fixed the issues. This is my second nexus 4, so I right id give it a try and not use wifi and hasn't happen since I received mines on the 4th of may
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noodles2224 said:
The random shut off either charging or not happens to me but as mentioned before in a related thread, a lot of the times it also happens on Wi-Fi, and having WiFi optimization on.. purple were turning that off and some fixed the issues. This is my second nexus 4, so I right id give it a try and not use wifi and hasn't happen since I received mines on the 4th of may
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So you're saying it's a software issue?
Looks like it.. Turning off optimization or not even using WiFi at all worked..
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