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Soooo i give up....HD2 ..blame F***ing windows

I love the phone but cant stand windows choppiness makes the phone useless... im coming from a Iphone 3gs.. i can use the iphone 3gs hardcore use all day without having to reboot it cause it gets slooowww and unresponsive...hd2 have to reset around 5 times daily.. wtf? camera pictures are stunning that's what kept me using it for 4-5 days ..i tried couple of tweaks and stuff. last one im using is BsB tweaks that seem to work good.... lets talk about typing..............OMG!!! lol suck ass i thought i need it to get use to the phone but not at all .. its just bad and it kinda make pissed cause i know is windows. why but why in the earth HTC loaded windows in this such a beautiful phone? ..i hope when the EVO comes out someone please please do the ROM from the EVO into the HD2.. this phone need to run android..........
and please be honest... the phone gets very choppy after texting and texting and sending mms ... i call that normal use...
so im going back to iphone until a miracle happens .. android ROM for the HD2

same situation here, why the hell cant this phone just function like its suppose to? everything..... i mean everything is a god damn project with this phone. if this phone had the iphone os... for me at least itd be the perfect device.

Either you love it or you hate it! So far I love it!

I don't have the issues anymore.................I returned mine.

Put on a custom ROM and the days of rebooting/choppiness will be long gone.

Frankly speaking, TMOUS stock rom is the best rom so far I have used with windows mobile (forget about the interface thing, it's the most stable one I have ever experienced. Even custom roms got bugs here and there), and I never have to reset the phone due to any bugs or performance issues... I just can't help but to say I love my HD2

Can u please link me to that ROM. I really want to keep using the hd2. I'll give that one I try

To be honest, I was ready to return both of mine. Then I disabled Sense and installed spb shell. All my issue have disappeared except the daily reboot on one(waiting on T-Mobile to get some in stock to send me a replacement). The keyboard does not hang anymore, and I type fast. The keyboard is acurate now too. The only problems I have now is the network, but I can't do much about that. Stick with the stock rom and do what I did. Also, keep using the bsb tweaks. It really does help.

makino_ruki said:
Frankly speaking, TMOUS stock rom is the best rom so far I have used with windows mobile (forget about the interface thing, it's the most stable one I have ever experienced. Even custom roms got bugs here and there), and I never have to reset the phone due to any bugs or performance issues... I just can't help but to say I love my HD2
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Feel the same. Since I brought the phone home, has been flawless. Top notch performance.
My only concern is not the phone but, T-mobile's network.
Thank you,
Monnie

Disabling SENSE kinda takes away the beuty of the phone.

i don't think its windows i think is the damn t-mobile rom or the first batch of phones i say exchange it cause i had the touch pro 2 and i would just get maybe a message and email bug. but i do see where you coming from and believe me i had problems with all the phones i had with a lag when i had over 1000 sms my nokia n82 would lag android installing and syncing 2 years of calendar appointments went bunkers I think as tech gets more advance software gets more buggy. but if you find the iphone way more useful i would tell you go for it no device its worth a headache lol

ajftl said:
Disabling SENSE kinda takes away the beuty of the phone.
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Damn, I love this phone but Im annoyed with the Messaging lag and not to mention the lag with the onscreen keyboard. When I bought this phone
I was thinking I would get used to the keyboard like on the Ipod Touch
but boy was I wrong. Im not going to lie to you guys, even the Keyboard on the
Zune HD is better than this phones and its a shame because of the screen size.
I installed the sensitivity cab so it could decrease the sensitivity but it didnt help at all.
Not to mention Sense crashing on me if I try to load some picture on the photo album. POP OUT THE BATTERY LITTLE KID
BSB tweaks help for battery life I guess.
I AM SURELY GOING TO MISS MY MIGHTMIKE ROMS ON MY SPRINT TP2.

I love my HD2

Are you using the task manager? The only reboot i have done is on updates that require it. Set your call button key to open task mager on holding the call button. I always use end all tasks before locking the phone, and it is ready and waiting on the next unlock. I had to do the same on my wing and shadow. I love this phone. I have had an iphone, g1, sidekick. But to me Windows mobile is so much more customizable than the other phone OS'. My first smarthphone was the Shadow and got me hooked on windows mobile.

fastwanabe said:
same situation here, why the hell cant this phone just function like its suppose to? everything..... i mean everything is a god damn project with this phone. if this phone had the iphone os... for me at least itd be the perfect device.
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i feel your pain about everything being a damn project, i'm thinking about jumping ship as well and its only been 5 days

84Gti Guy said:
Are you using the task manager? The only reboot i have done is on updates that require it. Set your call button key to open task mager on holding the call button. I always use end all tasks before locking the phone, and it is ready and waiting on the next unlock. I had to do the same on my wing and shadow. I love this phone. I have had an iphone, g1, sidekick. But to me Windows mobile is so much more customizable than the other phone OS'. My first smarthphone was the Shadow and got me hooked on windows mobile.
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thats what bugs the sh*t out of me about this phone, yes its not the phone issue itself, but winmo6.5m. but having to install a rom or program just so the X button on the upright corner, will ACTUALLY CLOSE the program instead of minimize it and stay in memory, while draining resources?!? thats a great idea!! why should i have have to use a damn task manager to close a damn program...

Get an HTC Desire or Nexus one.
Best of both worlds: Hardware like the HD2, software like the iPhone (much better than the iPhone, actually).
IMO it's much better than both the iPhone and the HD2, cause the whole package is consistent. Great hardware, great software. Android alone is worth it (much better than both iPhone OS and Windows Mobile), but with great, HD2-like hardware, there's nothing that can even come close to the Desire/Nexus.

Nexus One suck a$$... That's why I returned it... Piece of cr****.
Disable email on HD2 stock ROM and your re-booting problems will be gone...
I know..... Some peeps need email , but some is not clicking there.
Just my 2-1/2 cents... LOL

I second the opinion that the tmous stock rom is pretty dang great. Sense UI is the primary culprit behind any sort of slow down. It's great eye candy, but spb mobile shell is much less resource intense.

Why would u want to disable ur email on this phone just to make it "better"? It's like buying a new car and get rid off the headlights !!! U need emails ! and I shouldn't or better say we shouldn't disable ANYTHING to make this phone better. It has balls to run anything ! He's just going to sleep for a while until a updates come or something
btw after playing with a screen this big anything else looks crappy lol

Thinking of switching from a G1 to HD2, worth it?

Hey all,
I am thinking of switching from a G1 to the HD2 but still deciding. I like the fact that I can easily load things in to it from my pc (apps, updated ROMS for the OS and all). Does the HD2 have things like that? I liked that my G1 can play nes and snes games and such.
Only thing I do not like on my G1 is the battery life, but then again any phone with a nice big screen is going to have ****ty battery life. Anyone have experience with the battery life?
Just want to see what kind of apps, hacks, and what not there are for it before I get one. I see it has a 1ghz processor, so wondering what it actually is capable of : )
Thanks guys,
Dan
(P.S. I dropped my G1 in water 3 weeks after I got it, so for the last year I am glad its even working at all lol)

I'm sure all those things are capable on an HD2, i currently don't have any games like that..........yet. But depends on how much the battery means to you, just browse the forums, you'll find lots of posts about "****ty" battery life. For me, my battery is fine. Depends on usage. As for "hacks" farthest I've gone so far is Radio and ROM flashing, which i think I'm becoming addicted to it... any more in depth hacks or warez, have to look somewhere else.

it really just depends on what you wanna do with a phone and if ur willing to use task manager on the phone a lot. I found that closing apps via task manager will help you avoid lock up problems other people are having.
i also came from the g1.
but if u like android so much, i say just wait for another android device.
Android does not equate to WinMo.
Both OSs have problems and advantages over the other.
If ur not sure, i suggest you play with a friend's HD2 or something.
I also suggeest you use the task manager when trying it out because you will probably just complain that its laggy, unresponsive and buggy if you don't use the task manager wisely.

Using task manager goes with out saying, it is a windows phone after all : P
I purchased "advanced task manager" for my G1 and use it all the time, so I am used to that anyways.
Android is neat and all, but I am really liking the youtube review and such I have seen, and what this phone can do. Especially since my G1's camera is so ****ty, and it has no headphone jack, which was a huge mistake on their part. : \

I came from the G1 too. I felt the G1 was a bit slow. Also, my G1 battery life seemed horrible. Probably around 12-14hrs before 10%-0% without too much use. Maybe the battery was old. The HD2 is currently giving me much better battery life and I use it more. I barely used the HD2 today, but it was unplugged at 9am and now it's almost 7pm with 82% battery left.
I miss the notification pulldown and the better app integration with it. With gtalk on WM, you have make about 3 taps after you see the notification to get into gtalk.
I miss the power and news/weather widgets from Android. I don't think there is a gvoice app for WM. I would have liked to be able to use gvoice since I finally got an account a couple of months ago.
I also miss the physical keyboard (a little) and the Android onscreen keyboard implementation a little. The WM onscreen keyboard is a little tricky for me since there are a couple of areas that if tapped on hide the keyboard or change it. I think it should be a long tap (instead of quick tap) to activate those annoying functions.
I never use the app store too much on Android, so I don't miss it.
My reasons for the HD2 was the faster processor and huge screen. Also the ability to play any video format.

xtenpeben said:
it really just depends on what you wanna do with a phone and if ur willing to use task manager on the phone a lot. I found that closing apps via task manager will help you avoid lock up problems other people are having.
i also came from the g1.
but if u like android so much, i say just wait for another android device.
Android does not equate to WinMo.
Both OSs have problems and advantages over the other.
If ur not sure, i suggest you play with a friend's HD2 or something.
I also suggeest you use the task manager when trying it out because you will probably just complain that its laggy, unresponsive and buggy if you don't use the task manager wisely.
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x2. you can pretty much do anything on the hd2 as you can do on the g1 but differently due to the differences in OS. i find it harder to customize the original rom on the phone vs. the stock g1 where more apps and tweaks are readily available whereas on the hd2, you gotta dig deeper (look no further then xda) for certain .cab files that are not in the marketplace or the open market to proceed with certain theme customizations.
yo, peben! this is ryan lol, good to see you posting here too.

It is worth it just for the camera, which is leaps and bounds over the G1, I had a G1.
The screen size makes it better. Bigger is better says my wife.

Beware!
Massive stability issues.

davewaave said:
Massive stability issues.
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I dropped my G1 in water 3 weeks after getting it a year or so ago. Instability is one thing I am used to. I have to pop my battery out at least twice a day. My camera doesnt turn off when I close it and just sucks battery even more horribly then the phone does normally.
Ear speaker works when it wants to, same with loud speaker.
If it is anything better then that, I will be happy.
** EDIT ** Also, is it possible to transfer contacts and what not from my G1 to this easily? I have a good few.

I came from a G1 as well and it has been well worth it for me. Yes the operating systems are different but I can do just about everything now that I can do on my G1 and its, in my opinion, more customizable. Even though I loved it I don't really miss anything about android, in fact I was getting a little bored with it. Battery life for me is much better, multimedia options are better. The speediness, ram, rom and speediness are also huge pluses. Various people have had various experiences but I never had any freezes or other issues with my using stock or custom roms.

I came from the G1. For the first week I thought I may have made a mistake.
I was VERY VERY wrong.
HD2 beats the G1 in every way.
The only thing I miss is ease of finding apps and Google Nav.
The truth is though that Copilot 8 is real Nav system (you don't have to be online to use it). It's just not integrated with gogle maps the way I wish it was.
If you love your G1, stick with it. If you want the best phone on the market,,the HD2 is where it's at.
You'll have to lean how to make all the settings and customizations (there are WAY more ways to customize than the G1) ad get used to using Google to search for apps instead of the marketplace.
After that..you'll LOVE this phone.

ministersin said:
I came from the G1. For the first week I thought I may have made a mistake.
I was VERY VERY wrong.
HD2 beats the G1 in every way.
The only thing I miss is ease of finding apps and Google Nav.
The truth is though that Copilot 8 is real Nav system (you don't have to be online to use it). It's just not integrated with gogle maps the way I wish it was.
If you love your G1, stick with it. If you want the best phone on the market,,the HD2 is where it's at.
You'll have to lean how to make all the settings and customizations (there are WAY more ways to customize than the G1) ad get used to using Google to search for apps instead of the marketplace.
After that..you'll LOVE this phone.
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I do miss those apps!! Coming form Nexus one.

I have navigation in my car, so the only thing I really do with my G1 these days is text, weather, and occasional youtube because it does not do much because of the water damage. I take pics with it sometimes and upload to picasa, but they look ****ty.
ministersin said:
I came from the G1. For the first week I thought I may have made a mistake.
I was VERY VERY wrong.
HD2 beats the G1 in every way.
The only thing I miss is ease of finding apps and Google Nav.
The truth is though that Copilot 8 is real Nav system (you don't have to be online to use it). It's just not integrated with gogle maps the way I wish it was.
If you love your G1, stick with it. If you want the best phone on the market,,the HD2 is where it's at.
You'll have to lean how to make all the settings and customizations (there are WAY more ways to customize than the G1) ad get used to using Google to search for apps instead of the marketplace.
After that..you'll LOVE this phone.
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I've have the g1 and also a hd2. the only thing I really miss is the apps for Android and ease of finding them. I never used the marketplace (it sucks!) except for like a browser or to DL or a Facebook app or something . to bump up to the hd2 is definitely worth it. specially comin from a g1. when I got it I was amazed at how quick and responsive it is. but I missed Android too much and ended up getting the nexus one so now I switch back and forth lol. if u don't think ull miss the OS all that much its deff worth getting. battery life for me I could make it bout a eight hour shift before it'd go into the red but again I was surfing the net on that thing all day at work ...days when I wouldn't power use it the battery wasn't too bad . also with the HTC sense it really covers up the Windows pretty good. and there is a emulator app for it ..nes snes genesis ...with multitouch !
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one more thing. u can sync ur Google contacts with the hd2. life saver :]
Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

Also coming from G1. I really loved Android and my G1 but when I saw the HD2 I knew it was over. Android is a great OS with a ton of apps, but the phone was just too slow to really take advantage of Android's capabilities.
I was planning on getting a Nexus One eventually, but I always like to try the phone out in the store a few times to see if I really like it at far as speed and ergonomics. Not having Nexus Ones in stores really hurt Google here IMHO as I probably would have gotten one.
I can say for sure that the HD2 is ultra fast with NO LAG for me. I can listen to podcasts, use navigation, switch between apps all with no freezing like I had with my G1. Plus I see way more "oohs" and "aaahs" when I use the big-ass screen in public.

Battman23 said:
Also coming from G1. I really loved Android and my G1 but when I saw the HD2 I knew it was over. Android is a great OS with a ton of apps, but the phone was just too slow to really take advantage of Android's capabilities.
I was planning on getting a Nexus One eventually, but I always like to try the phone out in the store a few times to see if I really like it at far as speed and ergonomics. Not having Nexus Ones in stores really hurt Google here IMHO as I probably would have gotten one.
I can say for sure that the HD2 is ultra fast with NO LAG for me. I can listen to podcasts, use navigation, switch between apps all with no freezing like I had with my G1. Plus I see way more "oohs" and "aaahs" when I use the big-ass screen in public.
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yeah it gets you major *****... haha jk

I came from G1, trust me well worth the switch. Processor speed and screen size combined with swype make it great. I was not in love with the idea of no keyboard, but have adjusted

robstillholdin said:
I came from G1, trust me well worth the switch. Processor speed and screen size combined with swype make it great. I was not in love with the idea of no keyboard, but have adjusted
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Well, I installed swype on my G1 just to test it out and I really like it, but now I already have it on my G1 so its not the biggest selling point lol. But so far everything in this thread is telling me its the right phone to switch to

Another G1 to HD2 person. I do miss android and hopefully soon we will have a port for the HD2.
But, the hardware is super. I love this phone. Great camera, great call quality, large beautiful screen, fast, plenty of customizations, many rom's to switch to if you want.
The more I think about this phone I would like to have android, but only as an option for the apps I like. Otherwise, winmo will do.

I love my HD2!

Hey guys I've been here for years and strangely for the last couple of weeks I've not found myself on this site very much. Why? Because my damn phone is so damn good I haven't the need/urge to mess with the set up I have. I'm yet to unlock it or flash it (although I hear there are some very nice roms out there). My set up is as so:
Standard TMO USA rom.
SPB Mobile Shell 3.5
Quick Menu 2.8 (task manager/program closer).
JZ Mortbuttons
Opera Mobile 10, Opera Mobile 9, Skyfire, Mobile IE
Resco Explorer
Coreplayer
I haven't added any of my other contact programs or anything because this damn phone comes loaded with great programs and runs very, very well. I know some people may ask why did I create this thread? I see a lot of people coming in here complaining about the HD2 and WM 6.5 and I think the satisfied people need to speak up also. The phone is great (needs very few tweaks) and the OS is awesome now that is actually has a processor strong enough to really use it and a screen beautiful enough to show it's shine!
Join me with your I love my HD2 comments. Peace all.

Im with you on this one, people keep telling me to flash android. But there is no need for that.out of the box the phone rinds fine with no problems, and movies finally look good.
This will be my last phone I ever buy.

remo32001 said:
Im with you on this one, people keep telling me to flash android. But there is no need for that.out of the box the phone rinds fine with no problems, and movies finally look good.
This will be my last phone I ever buy.
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I would have to say this is the last phone I buy for a while. It fits all my current work and entertainment needs.

remo32001 said:
This will be my last phone I ever buy.
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you plan on stealing the rest?

remo32001 said:
Im with you on this one, people keep telling me to flash android. But there is no need for that.out of the box the phone rinds fine with no problems, and movies finally look good.
This will be my last phone I ever buy.
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Saying it's the last phone you'll ever buy is quite a statement... you know it will die eventually, right? You plan on not using a phone after that?
Also, who keeps telling you to flash android on it? You should let them know that it's impossible to do, because their is no android port for the HD2.

HD2
HD2 is a cool phone, I waited for it since it came out first in Europe. I switched carriers too. I think it needs alot of help. The phone is clumsy to me, on any phone I had I never found myself making so many mistakes typing or scrolling, I seen the difference right away when I went back to my itouch. But I love Winmo plus I already have a that love/hate relationship by having dealt with win95/xp/vista/windows 7 so I figure why not keep it going with the mobile too..HD2 is nice it has made me learn alot about mobile phone software like CABS, Flashing, etc. We will see what impact winmo 7 has on the old 6.5/6.5.x versions. You have to admit you can't never get bored and you can't just change stuff on Android the way you can with winmo..ok im done glorifying..peace

I really like my HD2, it has its quirks but they aren't bad. The screen is amazing on it and whenever I show people it they are blown away. Once some of the issues are fixed, random reception and freezes, it will be an amazing phone.

I love my phone too
I'll keep it until the HD3 comes out

OP, you're from inland empire? Me too!

flashing ROM itself is quite an amusement for me.
HD2 does have a facebook app that I actually like and use.
I read books quite often, and HD2 became my alternative eBook Reader with an app called, Freda. I still have an eBook Reader as my main source of reading material, but on 4.3" screen, it isn't too bad to read on the phone!
Then I do watch lots of MP4 videos and use Youtube.
besides those, everything else is quite standard.
RSS hub, Web Browsing (although on 4.3" screen, it's pleasant to browse), Music Player, and all the things other phones also have.
HD2 is a satisfying device to spend your time on the go.
But it's nothing other phones can't do.

Definitely love mine, had a brilliant email, navigating, talking weekend and it didnt blink, Just need T-Mo to update to 6.5.3 and fix the radio issues and it will be perfect for me.

speoples20 said:
I really like my HD2, it has its quirks but they aren't bad. The screen is amazing on it and whenever I show people it they are blown away. Once some of the issues are fixed, random reception and freezes, it will be an amazing phone.
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My wife has one also and her phone freezes while mine doesn't. The only real difference is I use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 and she uses the standard Sense interface. I think the messaging in the Sense has issues with the OS.

s0nniez said:
OP, you're from inland empire? Me too!
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Yep. Nice to see others in our area actually getting the phone!

efjay said:
Definitely love mine, had a brilliant email, navigating, talking weekend and it didnt blink, Just need T-Mo to update to 6.5.3 and fix the radio issues and it will be perfect for me.
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I personally don't want 6.5.3 because it has the start button on the bottom and that would eliminate me from using QuickMenu as my taskmanager/program closer. Sad huh?

This phone is so awesome to have. I have been roaming around xda-devs for years tweaking, modding, flashing but this thing I have to say is very stable. I have not flashed roms ever since I got it. So far i'm loving the way it handles things and haven't have any freezing unlike what other peoples says. Anyways I couldn't promise I will not be flashing roms coz they're tempting, lol. Cheers..

Quite a phone
I really love this phone, i have had a lot of wm phones but this tops it all. i use it as am mp3 camera browsing .... and so much more. I used to flash all my other phones but i think i will keep the stock rom since i havent had an problems with it.

I'm running Energy ROM on my HD.
Flashed almost every ROM that's compatible with TMOUS, and I think I'm pretty much settled on Energy for now. Problem with the most is the SMS lag. When you get more than 50 messages in one thread, it takes a while to load the conversation you highlighted on the messaging tab. I hated it, since I had to delete them almost every day, since I text a lot.
Energy ROM uses different looking SMS and MMS tab, which eliminated most of my annoyance.
Kudos, Energy ROM

I have to agree with addicus. I've had my HD2 for a over a month now and have had absolutely NO issues (knock on wood) and I'm a HEAVY user. I keep reading these horror stories involving random freezing, SMS issues, reception problems, etc. To date these issues aren't affecting me (knock on wood again). I'm running the stock ROM because it works flawlessly for me. I've installed several apps/mods and am completely satisfied.
I haven't touched my iPhone since buying the HD2. My iPhone contract ends in June and I will not be extending it. Will this be my last phone? absolutely not. I'm definately an early adopter and have to have the latest gadgets. Until then, I LOVE MY HD2!!

It's the screen size and brilliant colors and picture quality and capacitive touch that get me... It's not much different than any other Winmo phone besides that. I also like the Sense UI.
I'm stoked on this phone and if you are afraid to do a hard resets, ROM Flashes, tweaking WinMo, etc, I don't understand what you are doing on this site complaining anyhow... Just buy an Iphone and keep your opinions to yourself...
There is nothing worse about this phone than any other phone if you know what you are doing. Only good things...

Yeah, I love mine too much. I'm spending too much time on it. I think it's a bad thing.
Me and the wife's phone hasn't froze on us yet. We are on stock rom, using Sense UI.
I made a whole DVD of a graduation documentary with just the phone's camera alone. It turned out pretty good. Of course I edited on a PC though.
This phone will last me a while, at least till HD3 comes out.
Also, swype is screwing my typing skills up. The other day I went to use my Desktop and I was swyping on my keyboard. LOL...

New level of dissapointment from my HD2...HELP

Well ive had my hd2 since it came out and for me the only times its truly worked right is the 10mins after its been hard reset
last night i updated to 1.72 from 1.66 and if anything its slower, even with no apps installed and all my music files off it
. 1- from 9am to 10.30am it managed to use 35% battery even tho i hadnt touched it or left an app running in the background after a full nights charge
. 2- the signal is still intermittant, when its on the table it get full signal but as soon as i pick it up signal drops to 0 bars
. 3- sms types about 1 letter per second and randomly jumps the typing line about
. 4- it still thinks at 3am i want to be on the internet during my sleep so stays connected for 8 hours
. 5- the interface is sluggish (slower than winmo normaly) and even moving the unlock slider is a game to get it to actually work
. 6- when i hang up a call the screen does not change for over 1min
. 7- my contacts that are linked with facebook randomly change image to those that others have
. 8- when i press the power button to turn it on from stanby the key backlights come on but thats about it, 2mins later the screen comes on
sometimes i wonder if the phone thinks its a jam sandwich as it acts like one 90% of the time
their are brief points in the day when its working at 100%
but the rest im being forced to use a Nokia 3210i which tbh is far beating my HD2 as a phone at the moment
if you can help i would be much appreciated, otherwise im going to have a chat to vodafone about where i stand with returning it for a phone that works ok all the time, rather than brilliantly on occasion
Cheers

how about trying a custom ROM there loads better, (a new radio will help with the signal)
there is quite a few ways to just turn your data connection off (cabs)

No 7,. the facebook thing, i have 4 facebook contacts who every few weeks, always the same 4, their 'display as' email names get swapped around.
that is a pretty comprehensive list of all the faults common to hd2 stock roms to a greater or lesser degree. You just seem unlucky enough to have them all.
It also bears the hallmarks of a bad flash, i'd be tempted to task 29 and reflash it. ( I had one myself just today, perfectly normal flash, did mtty and everything, and it was just clunky - menus taking ages to open, screens taking ages to close, etc.
I wiped it and flashed again, and problems gone.)
Sometimes it can just happen like that, same with PC's, sometimes the instal just doesnt take.

get it back
really take it back to where you bought it, your problems are not software related, it is still in warranty right ?

i cant risk flasshing it to a cooked rom due to it voiding the warranty (i know it 99% of the time doesnt but i dont want to take the risk)
as for the not taking right, i thought that aswell
im on my 10th hard reset easily, and its the same all the time
its been like it from day one, if i didnt like the phone so much it would have gone back to voda within 24hours
tudorlv said:
really take it back to where you bought it, your problems are not software related, it is still in warranty right ?
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its still under htc warranty, aswell as vodafone insurance
im covered up the ying yang, just their idea of a fix is to reflash it and send it back a week later even though its reflasshed with the same as what i sent it in with and have reflasshed with myself

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be a shame to drop it, so requiring a warranty replacerment rather than a fix...
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Sense is just horrible. It simply does not function on the HD2. The phone isn't worth anything without a custom rom. Unfortunately most peoples ROMs are butt ugly kid ****.
If your looking for a functional phone that is going to work with some degree of reliability you should get rid of your HD2. Its not really for adults or anyone who has to accomplish stuff with a personal data assistant. You will spend more time reseting than actually reading a text message or being productive with this device. Its that simple. HTC cant program their way out of a wet paper bag.
Like you said, the phone will work for about ten minutes before all the whack programming has the system in knots.
It reminds me of those bootleg Ipods that you see in gas stations for like 35 bucks.

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i was thinking more of a wood chipper......
well since i made this topic ive had to softreset 3 times and had services.exe crash over 10times
everyone i know that have had htcs have all comented on the interfaces being poor
i bought the hd2 because i didnt want to join the hordes of people willing to blow steve jobs for an apple sticker
but ill give the iphone its dues for working as a phone atleast!

If its that bad why buy it, the rest of us seem to be having a damn good time with this phone, most phones are crap from a store they have all there software on it, you're on voda uk there one of the worst for it, ( i dont no if you have any on there)
the HD2 is all about tweaking and testing with custom ROM's i can assure you with a custom ROM you will be much happier the thing is nothing stock, yes i no all to well it should be awesome out the box but its not so what you gonna do about it lol, you can always put the stock ROM back on and take it back, and it wont void your warranty,
@Topofnewyork i just looked at your posts i thought i recognised the name near enough everyone of your comments is *****ing about this phone, if its that bad why you still here??
I dont see how anybody would have a WM device and have it stock

Yup, I will never buy HTC again, Im done I actully despise the company now. Its gotten that bad. The device cant remain stable at 40% capacity. The idea that it cant function with 60% of its resources free is like a total and utter failure. What is the point of this device? It cant use any of its hardware?
I hate Apple fan boys too but the bottomline is we need devices that have some level of reliable functionality. This thing gets worse every single day. Every day a new problem every day its a little slower every day its more and more ****ed up. Takes about 5 minutes to boot up to and when you are reseting ten times a day thats like an hour of my life each day just on resets. Real people with real jobs dont have time for toy devices, that cant even handle an incoming sms let alone multiple sms messages forget it the phone goes completely bonkers. Cant play music, cant play video and music in synch.
I hate the HD2. Like I cant express it enough how much I despise this device. Im ready to throw it out the window. I cant stand it anymore.
I have insurance, im sure I can get a warranty claim but even the process of having to go through that has me ready to lash out and slice the neck of the next person who sees me taking the batter cover off to reset bc the phones slider simply will not work. I cant believe they managed to mess this device up as bad as they have. I dont understand why people do reviews all they do is slide the slider tab and then presto chango, its a great device look how fast it is....test the thing by making calls bombarding it with emails and texts, and actually using it as it was 'designed' and watch the thing crash and burn. Its garbage. HTC is chinese garbage.
@demon_man I wont hikjack the threads anymore just gonna do the walk of shame through the warranty process and go back to AT&T or Verizon, the only saving grace is that I am not under any contract so I can ditch phones no problem. I usually make good choices and I am happy with each device for a year at least. I really cant believe I let HTC get me this bad on this device. I was wrong about everything with this device.

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Sense is just horrible. It simply does not function on the HD2. The phone isn't worth anything without a custom rom. Unfortunately most peoples ROMs are butt ugly kid ****.
If your looking for a functional phone that is going to work with some degree of reliability you should get rid of your HD2. Its not really for adults or anyone who has to accomplish stuff with a personal data assistant. You will spend more time reseting than actually reading a text message or being productive with this device. Its that simple. HTC cant program their way out of a wet paper bag.
Like you said, the phone will work for about ten minutes before all the whack programming has the system in knots.
It reminds me of those bootleg Ipods that you see in gas stations for like 35 bucks.
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Man HD2 kicks rear ends!

Yea, maybe in Spainish high school students. I have a feeling I expect way more from a device with this much fire power than you do. Either that or you are someone who has all the time in the world to tweak this device. I love working on my car too but I just dont have the time required to troubleshoot and go through all the permutations. At its price point and superior specifications (to almost any phone currently available), this device requires way to much maintenance for busy american professionals who take **** seriously and dont have time to quibble with a slider. Your playing with a toy I am trying to conduct business w a half cooked device.

With all those problems surely its a faulty phone. Ive just flashed the new 172 Rom but the way your describing your phone is nothing like mine. Mines faster smoother and dosent have any of the faults your describing and I use the phone a lot!
Im really confused by this thread. How can your phone be so crap?
RReckless

yesterday it locked up 6 times and all i used it for was sending the odd txt message
i got it before their was news about the os faults, voda said it would be updated soon and everything would be fixed
the return time passed and their lies became obvious
on 1.66 i had 10 apps added and it worked okish
now on 1.72 with nothing but what it came with and it can barely unlock itself without crashing
will try reflashing it tomoz, also im getting shocking battery times on 1.72
yesterday it was on charge over night 8am to 10am and it was down to 35% battery, i had to go home on my lunch break to get my charger!

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i LOL'd so hard i nearly fell off my chair!
sounds like a dud unit to me! send it back and make a stink of it too, you'll get a better deal
sorry to hear about your troubles, i had the tmob uk 1.43 rom, it had pretty much all the problems everyones been describing, then i flashed the updated tmob uk 1.72 rom and 90% of the issues have dissappeared. sometimes the bluetooth goes bonkers, and sometimes it'll take me to a random text message rather than the one i just recieved
imo it just needs to mature abit, perhaps in the near future you'll return to a HTC device?

i must admit when i read these threads re how bad someone is finding the HD2 i wonder why they are having such a problem?? the only answer i see is that they have a faulty phone as opposed to the HD2 being a bad phone.
i have had mine since the end of dec 2009 and its the best phone i have had so far. last phone was a i900 and before the HD2 i thought that was great too.
films run great (got avatar on there at the mo) books are read easily (cheers fredabooks), music plays well and the album interface works perfectly.
gps is excellent! i use copilot for road use and memory map for off road use.
i have a few games on there and they all seem to work excellently.
the only thing i havent got working properly is the ps1 emulator and that is probably me lol.
Mike

Hi,
apart of really broken devices (hardware) I guess most of the users reporting instability, freeze etc have a lot of creepy software and tweeks installed. Sometimes freeware sometimes payware. So before bashing the phone one should try it with a Stock ROM for some days without any tweaks. If the phone is still not stable there is a hardware issue so bring it back and get a new one.
bye
Sven

I used the UK Vodafone stock ROM for months, and was entirely dissapointed with the phone and wanted to sell it. When barely using the device during the day at work, the battery would drain by sometimes 60%, all the other bugs you mentioned, especially slowness when typing texts was AWFUL.
So one day, I took the courage (and took away the warranty), and put a cooked rom on it. I haven't looked back. All functionality works, all text messages now send (and are speedy to type) and my battery (even with the phone being used and WIFI'd) will last between 2 and 3 days. Even charging via usb is much quicker.
If you don't mind losing your warranty, go for a cooked rom, read up and DO IT, I'm a very happy chappy now.

Sven424 said:
Hi,
apart of really broken devices (hardware) I guess most of the users reporting instability, freeze etc have a lot of creepy software and tweeks installed. Sometimes freeware sometimes payware. So before bashing the phone one should try it with a Stock ROM for some days without any tweaks. If the phone is still not stable there is a hardware issue so bring it back and get a new one.
bye
Sven
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stock original rom = problems
1.66 stock rom no apps = problems
1.72 stock rom no apps = problems
in my experience hd2=problems
i can see how it would be a really good phone...just wish mine worked!
dont wanna use a cooked rom as it should work from day one
ill see what voda can sort out, may end up with an iphone unless i can get nexus

TopOfNewYork said:
Its garbage. HTC is chinese garbage.
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LOL. As opposed to?
I was following you until this point, then you just reeked of ignorance.

Considering dumping my HD2... bad idea?

I picked up my HD2 almost a week ago, and while at first I was quite pleased, I'm already sick of WM 6.5's buggyness. I did some tweaks to try and improve performance, but without success. I'm still forced to restart my device a few times a day, still getting poor reception, and pretty lame battery life to boot. I'm fairly certain this is mostly due to WM, as the HD2's specs are top notch, and similar handsets running Android are highly acclaimed. To make matters worse, its not likely I'll ever see Android or even WP7 on this device anytime soon, if at all.
So, I now find myself ready to return my HD2 for the MyTouch Slide on Wednesday. Even though it's a pretty large step down in the hardware department, reviews have stated that it's surprisingly responsive. Is there any reason I should stick with the HD2, other than the slight possibility of Android or WP7 and the l33tn3ss of it? I really want to like this phone, but I can't stand all the issues I'm having with WM 6.5. I'm currently running the latest stock ROM, with CHT and minimal apps installed, fwiw.

1st question, do you truly close your programs? Or do they boil and grow in the background? This is likely to be the number cause of your problems.
Also, try using the phone without Sense and see if it gets better for you. Either stick to Titanium or SPB Mobile Shell. I personally use Mobile Shell since I had the phone (played with Sense for 10 minutes and found it impractical for daily use).
Not a single hiccup AT ALL. So.....good luck to you in your decision, but just try my suggestions first.
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I picked up my HD2 almost a week ago, and while at first I was quite pleased, I'm already sick of WM 6.5's buggyness. I did some tweaks to try and improve performance, but without success. I'm still forced to restart my device a few times a day, still getting poor reception, and pretty lame battery life to boot. I'm fairly certain this is mostly due to WM, as the HD2's specs are top notch, and similar handsets running Android are highly acclaimed. To make matters worse, its not likely I'll ever see Android or even WP7 on this device anytime soon, if at all.
So, I now find myself ready to return my HD2 for the MyTouch Slide on Wednesday. Even though it's a pretty large step down in the hardware department, reviews have stated that it's surprisingly responsive. Is there any reason I should stick with the HD2, other than the slight possibility of Android or WP7 and the l33tn3ss of it? I really want to like this phone, but I can't stand all the issues I'm having with WM 6.5. I'm currently running the latest stock ROM, with CHT and minimal apps installed, fwiw.
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gilla409 said:
I picked up my HD2 almost a week ago, and while at first I was quite pleased, I'm already sick of WM 6.5's buggyness. I did some tweaks to try and improve performance, but without success. I'm still forced to restart my device a few times a day, still getting poor reception, and pretty lame battery life to boot. I'm fairly certain this is mostly due to WM, as the HD2's specs are top notch, and similar handsets running Android are highly acclaimed. To make matters worse, its not likely I'll ever see Android or even WP7 on this device anytime soon, if at all.
So, I now find myself ready to return my HD2 for the MyTouch Slide on Wednesday. Even though it's a pretty large step down in the hardware department, reviews have stated that it's surprisingly responsive. Is there any reason I should stick with the HD2, other than the slight possibility of Android or WP7 and the l33tn3ss of it? I really want to like this phone, but I can't stand all the issues I'm having with WM 6.5. I'm currently running the latest stock ROM, with CHT and minimal apps installed, fwiw.
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I hate reading messages like this.
When I first got my HD2 I was very happy with it. I kept it stock for a few weeks, even though I knew that the crashes could be fixed with a change in ROMs.
I don't know why HTC, T-Mobile and Microsoft would release something that clearly has not been field tested in "normal" conditions the way Apple does (see Gizmodo for details on real-world testing of Apple products prior to release).
The good news is that I am now running a great ROM that hasn't crashed on me in over 2 weeks. Not a single crash. I've never had a phone this stable! (See my sig for links)
The bad news is that I had to install a third-party ROM in order to have a useable phone. $500 is a lot of money and it's ridiculous that we have to turn to these boards to get our babies working correctly.
This is the way I feel:
If you want a phone that works 100% the way you want it out of the box, return your HD2 and keep shopping. The phone is waaay too expensive to keep just because it's the latest thing.
If you want an awesome phone that works the way you want it to and don't mind risking your warranty, I'd suggest flashing HSPL and testing some ROMs out. There are some great ROMs here that are so much faster, cleaner, better-looking and more stable than anything you will find on the shelves at T-Mobile. Just remember to tip your chef if you find a ROM that works perfectly on your rig

Thanks for the suggestions!
I actually do make sure to close all my apps when I'm done with them (even keep Task Manager on the first page.) Even with nothing besides Activesync open, I commonly get an error from Opera that "a critical component is missing."
Another bug that really pisses me off, is that when I'm browsing Opera in landscape mode and lock the screen, the lockscreen appears in landscape, and I cannot open it.
I'm mostly disappointed with the fact that this device has some of the most advanced hardware available, and yet it still lags out of the box. Watching videos of the MyTouch Slide running Expresso, I noticed that it is very fast and responsive, despite having much less horsepower under the hood. I really don't want to be forced to disable all of the eye candy or void the warranty installing custom ROMs just to get this "superphone" to run smoothly. On top of all that, it's still unclear if any better OS will be available on this device, either from the manufacturer or the devs here.
Why can't T-Mobile just release their upcoming "Project Emerald" already?

gilla409 said:
Thanks for the suggestions!
I actually do make sure to close all my apps when I'm done with them (even keep Task Manager on the first page.) Even with nothing besides Activesync open, I commonly get an error from Opera that "a critical component is missing."
Another bug that really pisses me off, is that when I'm browsing Opera in landscape mode and lock the screen, the lockscreen appears in landscape, and I cannot open it.
I'm mostly disappointed with the fact that this device has some of the most advanced hardware available, and yet it still lags out of the box. Watching videos of the MyTouch Slide running Expresso, I noticed that it is very fast and responsive, despite having much less horsepower under the hood. I really don't want to be forced to disable all of the eye candy or void the warranty installing custom ROMs just to get this "superphone" to run smoothly. On top of all that, it's still unclear if any better OS will be available on this device, either from the manufacturer or the devs here.
Why can't T-Mobile just release their upcoming "Project Emerald" already?
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Have you upgraded to opera 10 yet? because I don't get any problems with it. I don't care for the pinch and zoom feature, so that was not a problem for me to upgrade to it. Also the UI is better looking to me and feels more like a desktop.

try opera mini 5. much faster than opera 10 or even opera 9 that comes preinstalled with the phone.
on top of that, why downgrade to the slide? have you tried flashing a custom rom to the hd2?
i know the slide may seem more responsive but please don't judge it by watching 5 minute video. i bet that phone would experience some kind of lag after a week of use. Espresso Sense UI on that slide also hogs a bunch of memory as our own Sense UI for the HD2.
But if you're still thinking of ditching the HD2 for another T-Mobile compatible phone, I'd get the Nexus one instead. It has the same snapdragon processor not to mention it does not have SENSE to slow it down at all. Completely stock android OS.

I really don't understand this "buggyness" that people have with WM6.5 I dont have any issues with WM6.5 the only issues i notice is the HTC sense messaging lag, and the lag that the HTC Peep app creates every time it updates. I had to turn off auto updating on HTC Peep cause that got so annoying.
Some 3rd party apps are particularly bad, I think the worst i have loaded right now is the Win Mobile Foursquare app from Touchality, bloated buggy POS but its the only option on WinMO at the moment
Basically all the issues with WinMo are 3rd party programs which are likely going to cause trouble on any platform, except for the one that doesn't allow real multitasking.

1. all devices come with bugs and problems
2. all snapdragon drains your battery like crazy same with the Evo.What do you expect from a 4.3 inch screen
3. In my case their times an app its the reason for my phone crashing example motweets it slow the crap out of my hd2 it took 10 minutes to remove. putting flash on opera also a few time it crash my browser.
4. for most issues theirs solutions. my advice its to call t-mobile and tell them your phone its crashing alot and tell them you want a replacement and see if that works out for you. if it doesnt sell it if your unhappy.

Thanks again for all the replies, I definitely appreciate the input. It's nice that people are actually discussing the issues instead of simply bashing one phone and praising another.
I installed Opera 10 immediately after getting my HD2, which is the version that keeps crashing/freezing my device. I will try installing Opera Mini 5 and see how that fares, fingers crossed!
I'm also going to flash a custom ROM to my device, and see if that makes things run smoother. Right now I'm thinking the LIA ROM, I just hope it performs as good as it looks.
The reason I'm kinda pressed to make a decision, is because I'm still within my buyer's remorse period, and can return my HD2 if I'm unhappy with it. The next best thing would be the MyTouch Slide, or the Nexus 1 (which is quite a bit more expensive, and I would have to wait for it to ship.) This really doesn't leave me with much in the way of options, at least for now, which is making this decision much harder. If I do end up returning my HD2, I might just use my old RAZR for a bit, and check out "Project Emerald" in the near future. I'm really hoping more info on this gets leaked before my BR period is up.

I felt the same as you after a week or two into it. Crashes, freezes, hiccups, etc...
After installing the latest T-MO ROM Update, along with a few tweaks like Dutty's Task mgr and Cookie's Home Tab editor, CleanRam, too. No lockups for over a week.
I was super close to selling this and getting an N1. But now it's smoothing out for me.
Joe

I just got the phone today and have already had a few issues. I know part of it is just do to the fact that I'm not used to it. I hope I can work out some of these bugs. I agree that we shouldn't have to go through these lengths just to get a phone that "just works", but after all the research I did it seems like in the end it will be worth it to have a phone that doesn't have the limits that certain other phones do. I will however be playing with a mytouch slide demo unit when I can just to see how it goes. Initial reviews seem surprisingly good.

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But if you're still thinking of ditching the HD2 for another T-Mobile compatible phone, I'd get the Nexus one instead. It has the same snapdragon processor not to mention it does not have SENSE to slow it down at all. Completely stock android OS.
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I agree, try the nexus 1 out!! I am half tempted to get it myself!!

I took the plunge and did it. I kept having issues with the HD2's sound switching to the earpiece (including when the phone rings, playing transformers, etc.). Because it was brand new, I took it back to get it exchanged. They said they didn't have any more and I'd have to wait for a replacement, so I said **** it and got the mytouch slide. I'm liking it a lot so far. It's very snappy, zippy, cool UI, good keyboard. I think I'll be happy with my choice. Good luck whatever you decide to do!