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Xperia z vs Xperia ZL..A close comparison!

Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!

ethan3686 said:
Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!
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Could have been better if you can provide pictures.

they didnt let me do that there..i was at a local store..I'll try to pursue next time..But trust me ZL is more brighter..Can there be a mod to increase XZ brightness??..
Bcoz it looks dull in comparison! But i want the XZ only

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Was it a demo unit or a retail unit ? All demo units have the ****TY JDC panels. Retail models in most countries have the Sharp panel (same as the one on ZL)

I guess both were demo units..Coz there was some videos of each's advertisemnt going on once u leave them doing nothing..but cud be some screen saver too. but i could be wrong too! bcoz one guy bought the XZ and it looked same.
P.S. Also look here even pocketnow notices the screen difference..guess we will have to wait for gsmarena -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siiv2XltFXY

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ZL uses Sharp screen only, whereas Z first batch has panel lottery and demo units get poor panels. So you can't compare that way. GSMArena got the second worst panel (JDC) so obviously ZL review they will rate the display better but it's pointless as they didn't review Z with sharp panel.
Z with sharp panel will be same as ZL.

So how do i know which is the sharp panel? anyway of knowing from the box? bcoz they will open it only if i buy it!

XZ brightness is fine, whatever you and the others say is exaggerations!

I just received my ZL on Friday, i must say the ZL is more comfortable to hold in my hand and screen is a bit better. sad but going to sell my Z soon
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Xperia z has infrared option...?
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gclancer said:
I just received my ZL on Friday, i must say the ZL is more comfortable to hold in my hand and screen is a bit better. sad but going to sell my Z soon
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Do you have a picture that shows the screen of the z and zl? I am quite curious because i am about to get the zl but is discouraged after reading reviews regarding the screen of the z.

Did you tried to uncheck AutoBrightness, and set the brightness level at maximum level? Doing so i found XZ to be very bright. In fact too bright for normal usage. Sony should tweak AutoBrightness in the next update. Also should discard gray theme. Replace it with black. Bad mistake that gray.
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ARC X12 said:
Do you have a picture that shows the screen of the z and zl? I am quite curious because i am about to get the zl but is discouraged after reading reviews regarding the screen of the z.
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Brightness on the ZL is set to the lowest but color wise is still more vibrant than the Z

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its the second time ive seen comparisons like this, not only could the exact same screen be calibrated differently towards warmer and darker colours, (software, not hardware) but if you look closer they are different pictures, and picture colours could have been tweaked before its displayed on screen for exanple take a screen shot of wallpaper vuew it with bravia on, then do another screen pic and save as wallpaper. “Ohh! Look everyone my, my screen is more vivid and has better contrast then your screen! Yeah! You suck! Iam the winner, martin sheen is winning"

Dunno about you guys, but I don't have my brightness set up all the way on my XZ. It's too bright for my taste. 60-80%max.
Maybe thats why my battery lasts so long?

mtechfan said:
Dunno about you guys, but I don't have my brightness set up all the way on my XZ. It's too bright for my taste. 60-80%max.
Maybe thats why my battery lasts so long?
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i leave mine @ 40% with autobrigthness "on". works well for me even under the desert sun... at noon.

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its the second time ive seen comparisons like this, not only could the exact same screen be calibrated differently towards warmer and darker colours, (software, not hardware) but if you look closer they are different pictures, and picture colours could have been tweaked before its displayed on screen for exanple take a screen shot of wallpaper vuew it with bravia on, then do another screen pic and save as wallpaper. “Ohh! Look everyone my, my screen is more vivid and has better contrast then your screen! Yeah! You suck! Iam the winner, martin sheen is winning"
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No even using live wallpapers the ZL screen looks better than XZ

Use calibration software ported from zl.
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JDC is actually the superior panel.
Please see the thread on panel identification. Someone posted comparison pics.
Sharp Panel is inferior and abysmal.

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No even using live wallpapers the ZL screen looks better than XZ
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I agree. Compared my Zl screen with three XZ screens at two different sony stores & found that ZL screen indeed has better viewing angles & colour vibrance than those on XZs. I tested same wallpaper using album app at full brightness & bravia engine enabled (adapt to light checked) in all the units. Sorry that i can't provide any photos of the same.

Xperia SP with a unbelievably "white-washed" display

Just bought the Xperia a few days ago and been playing around with it ever since. by end of the Day One, I find the overly whitish brightness increasingly annoying. and the more I compare them with the display in other phones, the more I find it unbelievable that Sony would be incapable of incorporating a better display into this phone. In fact, after having personal first-hand user experience with the phone, and making repeated visit to the Sony Centre with its full range of Xperia smartphones on display, and comparing the SP with the displays on other models, I found that Sony phones general has that whitish overexposed element which are not present in smartphones from other brands, HTC, Samsung. Heck, even a ACER and LENOVO phones has better display in term of its viewing angles and in showing white colour. Displaying black is acceptable but the moment there is any bright colour, all hell break loose with the display, with pictures and graphics looking like they have been photoshopped and tweaked to the maximum brightness. I find this totally unacceptable and I am putting the phone on garage sale forum already, which is rather unfortunate, because other than the display, I am very fond of the phone's design, material and the general simplicity of Xperia interface.
It is a complete mystery why nobody and none of the reviews make a bigger issue about gross inadequacy. it is utterly terrible. I am sure I am not the one only here who noticed this. can any members here share your views on this ?

Lol... I've had many android devices and I always prefer the whites on the Sony devices because they're the ones that actually look whiter while other devices have whites that are way too warm and ruin many pictures... Don't understand your complaint...
Adjust your white balance on the settings

watchman.see said:
Just bought the Xperia a few days ago and been playing around with it ever since. by end of the Day One, I find the overly whitish brightness increasingly annoying. and the more I compare them with the display in other phones, the more I find it unbelievable that Sony would be incapable of incorporating a better display into this phone. In fact, after having personal first-hand user experience with the phone, and making repeated visit to the Sony Centre with its full range of Xperia smartphones on display, and comparing the SP with the displays on other models, I found that Sony phones general has that whitish overexposed element which are not present in smartphones from other brands, HTC, Samsung. Heck, even a ACER and LENOVO phones has better display in term of its viewing angles and in showing white colour. Displaying black is acceptable but the moment there is any bright colour, all hell break loose with the display, with pictures and graphics looking like they have been photoshopped and tweaked to the maximum brightness. I find this totally unacceptable and I am putting the phone on garage sale forum already.
It is a complete mystery why nobody and none of the reviews make a bigger issue about gross inadequacy. it is utterly terrible. I am sure I am not the one only here who noticed this. can any members here share your views on this ?
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I also compared the display with other smartphones. Its like u said. Even the HTC Desire Z, which is more then 3 years old, got a much better display.
This was my first sony smartphone and for sure, the last. Its not only the display. I noticed many more things, which should be better.
Sony failed!

ZakooZ said:
Lol... I've had many android devices and I always prefer the whites on the Sony devices because they're the ones that actually look whiter while other devices have whites that are way too warm and ruin many pictures... Don't understand your complaint...
Adjust your white balance on the settings
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you have no idea what I am talking about. the white balance is already at its lowest possible setting. adjusting anymore will only change the tint effect and not the brightness. it is not just whiter. it looks OVER-EXPOSED. do you even know what an overexposed pictures taken by a camera look like ?
when a colour that is supposed to look red started to look like pink from certain angle, it is just pure, unaduterated, lame display.

In that case, get yourself an Xperia Z1 or Z Ultra..they have amazing displays with
good viewing angles thanks to the Triluminous Display and X-Reality
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I have the same problem, not that the phone looks over exposed ..
but the screen is compared to the xperia ray of my gf rubbish....
i'm confused.
But seeing that my SP also has a bad issue of a dodgy touchscreen, and random severe input lags, my guess is that i got a "lemon" phone
again im not thrashing any SP's out there, just guessing that i got one faulty device of the bunch thats out there

The screen hasn't got the best viewing angles, I agree. I also find the gamma curve is biased towards showing a lot of definition in darker tones, which leads to the impression of reduced contrast - ie: dark tones don't look dark enough until they're near to black.
Those criticims aside I find the screen very good quality. I'm glad I don't have to live with Samsung's "technicolor" OLED screen where everything's pumped up.
Also, turn off BE2 if you want natural colurs and contrast.

watchman.see said:
Just bought the Xperia a few days ago and been playing around with it ever since. by end of the Day One, I find the overly whitish brightness increasingly annoying. and the more I compare them with the display in other phones, the more I find it unbelievable that Sony would be incapable of incorporating a better display into this phone. In fact, after having personal first-hand user experience with the phone, and making repeated visit to the Sony Centre with its full range of Xperia smartphones on display, and comparing the SP with the displays on other models, I found that Sony phones general has that whitish overexposed element which are not present in smartphones from other brands, HTC, Samsung. Heck, even a ACER and LENOVO phones has better display in term of its viewing angles and in showing white colour. Displaying black is acceptable but the moment there is any bright colour, all hell break loose with the display, with pictures and graphics looking like they have been photoshopped and tweaked to the maximum brightness. I find this totally unacceptable and I am putting the phone on garage sale forum already, which is rather unfortunate, because other than the display, I am very fond of the phone's design, material and the general simplicity of Xperia interface.
It is a complete mystery why nobody and none of the reviews make a bigger issue about gross inadequacy. it is utterly terrible. I am sure I am not the one only here who noticed this. can any members here share your views on this ?
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Try Nokia 1280 bro best display of all smartphones in 2013 even better than s4
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dara007_168 said:
Try Nokia 1280 bro best display of all smartphones in 2013 even better than s4
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Capt'n Sarcasm to the Rescue

watchman.see said:
Just bought the Xperia a few days ago.... and the more I compare them with the display in other phones..... Xperia smartphones on display, and comparing the SP with the displays on other models, other brands, HTC, Samsung. Heck, even a ACER and LENOVO phones has better display in term of its viewing angles and in showing white colour.
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Perhaps next time, make your comparisons before purchasing your phone.
Secondly, all this talk of viewing angles, now, forgive me for being a little simplistic here, but, as a general rule, I, and probably many others, tend to hold my phone pretty much parallel to my eyes, why anyone would want to look at their phone at any angle other than say 30 odd degrees to this is completely beyond me!???
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technaudio said:
Perhaps next time, make your comparisons before purchasing your phone.
Secondly, all this talk of viewing angles, now, forgive me for being a little simplistic here, but, as a general rule, I, and probably many others, tend to hold my phone pretty much parallel to my eyes, why anyone would want to look at their phone at any angle other than say 30 odd degrees to this is completely beyond me!???
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After reading the replies, I noticed the difference in quality is there but apparently, some people doesn't find that it is a big issue, which is a complete mystery to me. one good example is this kind of comment, which make absolutely no sense in how one justify and defending an obvious fundamental flaw. "as a general rule", people nowadays do put their phones on the tables and turn their sight to somewhere else and then glance at its side from the sight. the same goes for the tablets. maybe, you hold and look at your phone right in front of you day and night, but if you don;t know single person who doesn't do that all the time and expect to be able to see the same colour and contrast when you are viewing your phone when they are lying on the table, then the problem lies with you. seriously, even if you hold the phone directly in front of the eyes, the ****ty quality of the display is so significant, it just boggle my mind why so many people wanna defend the indefensible ? the inferiority in comparision to the display in other phones are clear and present, why would you or anyone allow a phonemaker to give you a display that has brightness that give you a completely washed-out effect, when the display on even a China no-name brand doesnt ? just because you grew up with a Sony Ericsson phone and has a soft spot for it ?

Sadman Khan said:
In that case, get yourself an Xperia Z1 or Z Ultra..they have amazing displays with
good viewing angles thanks to the Triluminous Display and X-Reality
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that is not an option. i chose Xperia SP because of the size, which is just right for mobility and convenience sake. Xperia Z1 is too big and Z Ultra is just ridiculous. it is a mini tablet, not a phone. and since you brought this up, this is what irks me the most. these two upper-end models are the one only with a display that has the natural brightness and colour seen in phone from Samsung Galaxy, HTC etc but their screen display are consistent across the entire range from budget to upper-end. mind you, this "Triluminous Display and X-Reality" doesn't really offer anything new or fancy, it is just a fancy term of Sony to integrate something into its phone display to make them look comparable to phones from other brands, something they should have included in its range of phones to begin with. I highly suspect that Sony deliberately skim on the quality of the display for this Xperia SP in exchange of giving you a mid-ranged 4G LTE phone with Adreno 320.

Onecton said:
I have the same problem, not that the phone looks over exposed ..
but the screen is compared to the xperia ray of my gf rubbish....
i'm confused.
But seeing that my SP also has a bad issue of a dodgy touchscreen, and random severe input lags, my guess is that i got a "lemon" phone
again im not thrashing any SP's out there, just guessing that i got one faulty device of the bunch thats out there
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no one should apologise for thrashing Xperia SP. dont even get me started on the insensitive touchscreen AND the totally unbelievably weak WIFI reception. I am talking about a wifi connection that I have been using for years in my house, and is being used and detected now by other Samsung, Iphones, tablets, notebooks in the house now. nine out of ten times, the Xperia SP is unable to detect, latch on and then subsequently connect to the WIFI signal after I went outside and returned home. this has never happen to any of the devices we used in the house before, except when the device is faulty to begin with.

watchman.see said:
that is not an option. i chose Xperia SP because of the size, which is just right for mobility and convenience sake. Xperia Z1 is too big and Z Ultra is just ridiculous. it is a mini tablet, not a phone. and since you brought this up, this is what irks me the most. these two upper-end models are the one only with a display that has the natural brightness and colour seen in phone from Samsung Galaxy, HTC etc but their screen display are consistent across the entire range from budget to upper-end. mind you, this "Triluminous Display and X-Reality" doesn't really offer anything new or fancy, it is just a fancy term of Sony to integrate something into its phone display to make them look comparable to phones from other brands, something they should have included in its range of phones to begin with. I highly suspect that Sony deliberately skim on the quality of the display for this Xperia SP in exchange of giving you a mid-ranged 4G LTE phone with Adreno 320.
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All i meant to say was that, if you stick to Sony, then right now only these two offer the good displays with good viewing angles..besides the honami mini will also be released and that just might be the perfect phone for you. SP has great hardware and software and really at this price range, a phone cannot get any better . It's a high end phone with mid range price. I personally prefer phones with viewing angles like SP because it's more private. Or else people can read anything or see anything from anywhere -_- again, that's just my opinion. My idea is to switch to a Z1 mini when it comes out. The quality of the display is something i need, and viewing angles is just a plus point to me. I really don't care much if the viewing angles are good or bad as i do always use my phone at parallel eye level
And trust me, i know the difference in display as i myself come from an Htc One X which has awesome viewing angles but sadly this phone has far better battery, speed and gaming performance than One X
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watchman.see said:
After reading the replies, I noticed the difference in quality is there but apparently, some people doesn't find that it is a big issue, which is a complete mystery to me. one good example is this kind of comment, which make absolutely no sense in how one justify and defending an obvious fundamental flaw. "as a general rule", people nowadays do put their phones on the tables and turn their sight to somewhere else and then glance at its side from the sight. the same goes for the tablets. maybe, you hold and look at your phone right in front of you day and night, but if you don;t know single person who doesn't do that all the time and expect to be able to see the same colour and contrast when you are viewing your phone when they are lying on the table, then the problem lies with you. seriously, even if you hold the phone directly in front of the eyes, the ****ty quality of the display is so significant, it just boggle my mind why so many people wanna defend the indefensible ? the inferiority in comparision to the display in other phones are clear and present, why would you or anyone allow a phonemaker to give you a display that has brightness that give you a completely washed-out effect, when the display on even a China no-name brand doesnt ? just because you grew up with a Sony Ericsson phone and has a soft spot for it ?
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I think the display is fine myself. Samsung displays, in. My opinion, are bloody awful, yes, you might be able to see it from pretty much perpendicular to your eyes, but the dreadfully oversaturated colours are terrible. Add to that the phone isn't that good looking (again, my opinion) and the people I know that have got one have both complained about poor build quality (chrome bezel peeling off) and rubbish battery life, and Samsung STILL insist on putting the back and multitask button s the wrong way round!
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Sadman Khan said:
All i meant to say was that, if you stick to Sony, then right now only these two offer the good displays with good viewing angles..besides the honami mini will also be released and that just might be the perfect phone for you. SP has great hardware and software and really at this price range, a phone cannot get any better . It's a high end phone with mid range price. I personally prefer phones with viewing angles like SP because it's more private. Or else people can read anything or see anything from anywhere -_- again, that's just my opinion. My idea is to switch to a Z1 mini when it comes out. The quality of the display is something i need, and viewing angles is just a plus point to me. I really don't care much if the viewing angles are good or bad as i do always use my phone at parallel eye level
And trust me, i know the difference in display as i myself come from an Htc One X which has awesome viewing angles but sadly this phone has far better battery, speed and gaming performance than One X
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incidentally, I happen to remember looking closely at the Xperia Z in the Sony Centre and still remember its display screen as having a certain whitish element not present in other phone. and its comparatively inferior constrast ratio is more or less corroborated by some reviews, including this one http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-review-887.php
Main disadvantage
Low contrast display with below-par viewing angles
Non user-replaceable battery
13MP camera hardly any better than some competitors' 8MP units
Feeble loudspeaker
More disturbingly, the display has rather poor contrast for a flagship unit and not really inspiring colors. As testified by the measurements in our dedicated test it comes nowhere near the standard of its main competitors and it even fared worse than its predecessor.
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I guess I will stay away from Sony Xperia phones until they completely overhauled its display technology. It is a pity, as I generally prefer the the simple elegance of Sony Xperia's phone design.

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I guess I will stay away from Sony Xperia phones until they completely overhauled its display technology. It is a pity, as I generally prefer the the simple elegance of Sony Xperia's phone design.
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Welcome to the new age. Welcome to Xperia Z1.
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lee480 said:
Welcome to the new age. Welcome to Xperia Z1.
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I will accept it once I have seen it. as far as I am concerned, it is the dark ages if Sony only use its upgraded display tech on its high-end phones and skim on them on its mid to low-range phones. if Samsung and HTC can do it with across its range of phones, there is absolutely no reason for Sony to be unable to do it.

watchman.see said:
I will accept it once I have seen it. as far as I am concerned, it is the dark ages if Sony only use its upgraded display tech on its high-end phones and skim on them on its mid to low-range phones. if Samsung and HTC can do it with across its range of phones, there is absolutely no reason for Sony to be unable to do it.
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I don't have any problem with my phone. .245 update solved the random touch bug and wifi for me, and I think the screen is pretty good, although kind of reflective.
You might want to have your phone checked. My display is made by JDC.
I have Samsung phones, so I know what amoled looks like. LCD displays are sharper, but amoleds have better contrast.
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Before SP I had Xperia J (changed it because it was too slow for me) and the display of the J (lower resolution thou) have better black contrast and it is better looking.
The XSP display have really washed out colors like the Nexus 7 (2012) have and on the SP I think they are even worse.
I have made this test: made a screenshot of my phone desktop and then saw the picture in the album - when the Bravia ENGINE optimized the picture - it looked far better.
Is there a way to make Bravia ENGINE work all the time in real time ?

Xperia Z1 vs Galaxy S4 vs Xperia S vs iPhone 4s

Hi everyone
I know that there are several topics that reviewed the device but I thought this might be useful when comparing the Z1 vs SGS4, if not please let me know and I will delete it
I just received my Xperia Z1 couple of hours ago (from EE through P4U white one) I have been playing with it and tested most things (apart from the camera)
first I was worried from the review saying the screen is bad or the battery life is poor but the phone I am holding is impressive over all
I compared it against the Xperia S and iPhone 4s and I came to quick conclusion which is if you owned any of the two and liked it you will definitely like the Z1 it is better than the two in every single aspect that you would think of (assuming you don't mind the size).
now the comparison between the Z1 and SGS4
first the phone is heavier, however, I think this is an advantage as the phone feels premium (it doesn't feel heavy to an extent that worries you that it might hurt your hand)
by looking at the devise it feels so big but comparing it with SGS4 (side by side) it is not that big. Keep in mind that this still different from one person to the other, but the size doesn't bother me.
Now with the screen
I was really worried to get poor screen, so I though I would start with it. I put both phones side by side, turned off auto brightness put them at max brightness and the surprise is the Z1 is SIGNIFICANTLY brighter than my SGS4. I then opened google search to compare the white and surprisingly, the Z1 is ALOT whiter you can easily say which is better. then searched in google images for various things and compared the images on both phones and ALWAYS the Z1 is better than the SGS4. Now I am happy.
lets move to the battery
I have played with the phone for 1 full hour, the screen was on, wifi on opened couple of websites used the camera a lettle, downloaded apps used various apps and the battery went down by ~10% which is really impressive. This means the phone would last around 10 hours of continues use (this really depends on what you are doing as different things consume different amount of the battery) but then keep in mind that the device is new and the battery tends to get better with time. now I am even happier.
now these things what worried me the most but I am perfectly happy with the phone and would recommend it to anyone. if anyone has any question please let me know and I will try to answer it for you. I will be out in a while and will be back in few hours and will try to answer questions by then.

ahomad said:
Hi everyone
I know that there are several topics that reviewed the device but I thought this might be useful when comparing the Z1 vs SGS4, if not please let me know and I will delete it
I just received my Xperia Z1 couple of hours ago (from EE through P4U white one) I have been playing with it and tested most things (apart from the camera)
first I was worried from the review saying the screen is bad or the battery life is poor but the phone I am holding is impressive over all
I compared it against the Xperia S and iPhone 4s and I came to quick conclusion which is if you owned any of the two and liked it you will definitely like the Z1 it is better than the two in every single aspect that you would think of (assuming you don't mind the size).
now the comparison between the Z1 and SGS4
first the phone is heavier, however, I think this is an advantage as the phone feels premium (it doesn't feel heavy to an extent that worries you that it might hurt your hand)
by looking at the devise it feels so big but comparing it with SGS4 (side by side) it is not that big. Keep in mind that this still different from one person to the other, but the size doesn't bother me.
Now with the screen
I was really worried to get poor screen, so I though I would start with it. I put both phones side by side, turned off auto brightness put them at max brightness and the surprise is the Z1 is SIGNIFICANTLY brighter than my SGS4. I then opened google search to compare the white and surprisingly, the Z1 is ALOT whiter you can easily say which is better. then searched in google images for various things and compared the images on both phones and ALWAYS the Z1 is better than the SGS4. Now I am happy.
lets move to the battery
I have played with the phone for 1 full hour, the screen was on, wifi on opened couple of websites used the camera a lettle, downloaded apps used various apps and the battery went down by ~10% which is really impressive. This means the phone would last around 10 hours of continues use (this really depends on what you are doing as different things consume different amount of the battery) but then keep in mind that the device is new and the battery tends to get better with time. now I am even happier.
now these things what worried me the most but I am perfectly happy with the phone and would recommend it to anyone. if anyone has any question please let me know and I will try to answer it for you. I will be out in a while and will be back in few hours and will try to answer questions by then.
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open a black image... turn of the lights and see it in dark... how deep black is the black... and does normal viewing angle effect the blackness.. i do not want to know unpractical viewing angle...

Thanks for info,
for camera shootout between my Z1 and 5S, http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/...xperia-z1-share-you-view-on-the-better-phone/ also daily blog review of Z1 ongoing, so check out earlier posts.

jos_031 said:
open a black image... turn of the lights and see it in dark... how deep black is the black... and does normal viewing angle effect the blackness.. i do not want to know unpractical viewing angle...
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when lights off, you would see black as grey this is back lit screen where all pixels lights even black ones unlike SGS4 AMOLED where each pixel is lit on its own.
but then you won't watch a completely black screen. when you look at screen with different colors (images, videos ...etc) you won't notice the grayish black and when lights are on, the black is deep to a level similar to the SGS4 (you won't notice any difference)
viewing angle is very good ( the colors fade a bit when you look at almost flat device). In other words it stays perfect all the way until it is almost flat where the colors fade a bit which wouldn't be very noticeable and no one would even look at a device from that angle. normal angle where few people looking at the phone won't cause any issue and the image will be crystal clear.

gavinfabl said:
Thanks for info,
for camera shootout between my Z1 and 5S, http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/...xperia-z1-share-you-view-on-the-better-phone/ also daily blog review of Z1 ongoing, so check out earlier posts.
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Thanks for the source. I wounder why people doing camera comparison do not include reference image (from pro cameras) because the first two images in this source, the color is slightly different between the Z1 and 5s and we can't really tell which shows the real color. Apart from that the Z1 looks brighter, sharper and with more noise while the 5s is more blurry and seems to have pink tint that I had in my previous Xperia S. So the Z1 images are not prefect but hopefully an update can improve it. Still need to test mine when I get back.

ahomad said:
Thanks for the source. I wounder why people doing camera comparison do not include reference image (from pro cameras) because the first two images in this source, the color is slightly different between the Z1 and 5s and we can't really tell which shows the real color. Apart from that the Z1 looks brighter, sharper and with more noise while the 5s is more blurry and seems to have pink tint that I had in my previous Xperia S. So the Z1 images are not prefect but hopefully an update can improve it. Still need to test mine when I get back.
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They are my photos and from my blog
So what you are saying is to take the same shots with all the phones and use a DSLR for comparison? I will say the 5S overall has more natural colours, the Z1 does sometimes blur on edges, but otherwise its a tricky one. Also Z1 will get updates from Sony to fix a number of its bugs and tweak the camera which is exciting really.

gavinfabl said:
They are my photos and from my blog
So what you are saying is to take the same shots with all the phones and use a DSLR for comparison? I will say the 5S overall has more natural colours, the Z1 does sometimes blur on edges, but otherwise its a tricky one. Also Z1 will get updates from Sony to fix a number of its bugs and tweak the camera which is exciting really.
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yup that what I meant, but you were there thats fair enough. I think sony are trying to make there images brighter in order to get better picture in low light situation, so you get brighter images but then this sometimes affect the colors. Anyway, I tested my Z1 camera (didn't compare it to SGS4), the images are good but as everyone said before, the Z1 can do alot better. Comparing the hardware between the Z1 SGS4 and iPhone 5s, the Z1 is ALOT better (bigger sensor and G-lens) however, sony were always weak in the software department but we hope (as everyone said before) that future updates make the camera performs alot better than this.

Xperia z viewing angles fixed

Hey guys, for months now since i got my beloved xp z a thing that bothered me somewhat were that when it was flat on the table i had trouble seeing my work mails unless the phone was realy close to me, as normally refered as the viewing angles.
Since then ive been reading and experimenting with a lot of apps to tweak the contrast and backlight intensity but well everything basically sucked and didnt work as advertized in the options.
Disapointed but not beaten, i recently tried an app that actualy works realy well to my amazement.
First of all, its a screen filter that decreases the intensity of the whites, but it seems to work a little diferently from all the other milion apps that swear to do the same.
It requires some number tweaking and ive settled for 60% filter in the app, then increased the phone brightness to 65%, just tweak it to your preference.
App store: screen filter by haxor industry
It has a substancial effect on the angles and heck i think i even find the colors better...
Cheers

cos of TFT nature that produce white a little more compare to other I've using "Smart SCREEN PRO" . it has more setting such as multicolored filter, can dim navigation bar and etc.

Definitely looks nicer. blacker blacks. Thank you very much.

Thanks for sharing sir...Im gonna try this one and hopes to get the one i wanted with my Z

Really you are struggling with viewing angles? I'm so happy with my X Z, I really don't know why people are arguing about viewing angles.

shmykelsa said:
Really you are struggling with viewing angles? I'm so happy with my X Z, I really don't know why people are arguing about viewing angles.
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It troubles me at work yes. My desk is always full and my phone needs to be in weird angles while i have mails with open documents.
The majors problem is that most scanned documents are in white background and xperia z loses a lot of contrast in wider viewing angles.
With this app tough i get a little better readability on documents in weird angles.

Great, this app really works
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I noticed big.differences in screens in different phones. My dad has an older Z and his screen looks washed out when mine's on par with screens like HTC one and S4 in terms of viewing angles. My phone is about 2 months old and my dad's is half a year old.
Sent from my C6603 using xda app-developers app

This difference you've noticed, are the two Zs using the same firmware?
Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z using XDA app

I have noticed some improved deep black when using following setup in White Balance App.
Just try it and see
I'm using UK Generic 4.3 firmware
Sat : 12.5
Hue : 215.0

shmykelsa said:
Really you are struggling with viewing angles? I'm so happy with my X Z, I really don't know why people are arguing about viewing angles.
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Really? I came from Samsung Galaxy S 1/2/3 to Xperia Z and I'm so dissapointed I can't even tell you. This is by far,. the worst screen & colors I have seen in a while.
Any screen/angling/coloring improvement on Xperia Z is a must.

greglord said:
Really? I came from Samsung Galaxy S 1/2/3 to Xperia Z and I'm so dissapointed I can't even tell you. This is by far,. the worst screen & colors I have seen in a while.
Any screen/angling/coloring improvement on Xperia Z is a must.
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Well you are coming from oversaturated Galaxies. That is not how colors should look!

Option58 said:
Well you are coming from oversaturated Galaxies. That is not how colors should look!
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Yeah, it's like looking at a cartoon vs watching a movie.
lyubor said:
I noticed big.differences in screens in different phones. My dad has an older Z and his screen looks washed out when mine's on par with screens like HTC one and S4 in terms of viewing angles. My phone is about 2 months old and my dad's is half a year old.
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Check your screen types. Depending on where your unit was built, it can have a different display LCD.
Find out here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182432

I do believe those smartphones with screens that has very wide viewing angles are for people who use their phones sideways, and those who like showing their texts and emails to strangers sitting/standing beside them.

The viewing angles can never be fixed due to the tn-display.
Compared to my n5 with excellent viewing angles and a very good black level the Z display has no chance, but honestly i don't care that much,
Z is still a solid phone.
Sent from my Nexus 5

Odd serial number?

Hi all,
So I've just bought a new Z1 to replace my Xperia S. I was a bit worried about the screen troubles, but now that I have it in my hand, it actually not that bad at all. Everything is good with the phone, but I was wondering about the serial numbers.
After finding a thread where serial numbers were trying to be linked with poor screens, I saw variations of BH or CB listed as the serial. BH901, CB512, etc.
I went to find mine, and I wasn't able to find anything on the net about it. Seems the serial is BH910. Anyone have any info, or have one the same?
Also, is there anyway I can find the date of manufacture for the phone? I haven't been able to find a country of origin either, even though it's going to be China or Brazil.
Cheers

Minibull said:
Hi all,
So I've just bought a new Z1 to replace my Xperia S. I was a bit worried about the screen troubles, but now that I have it in my hand, it actually not that bad at all. Everything is good with the phone, but I was wondering about the serial numbers.
After finding a thread where serial numbers were trying to be linked with poor screens, I saw variations of BH or CB listed as the serial. BH901, CB512, etc.
I went to find mine, and I wasn't able to find anything on the net about it. Seems the serial is BH910. Anyone have any info, or have one the same?
Also, is there anyway I can find the date of manufacture for the phone? I haven't been able to find a country of origin either, even though it's going to be China or Brazil.
Cheers
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Maybe your phone comes from an even newer batch of Z1 You might be lucky!
Check if you have the yellow tint or touch screen issues... Maybe Sony solved it in your batch
My serial is CB512, I have the touch screen problem AND the yellow tint... (((

@[email protected] said:
Maybe your phone comes from an even newer batch of Z1 You might be lucky!
Check if you have the yellow tint or touch screen issues... Maybe Sony solved it in your batch
My serial is CB512, I have the touch screen problem AND the yellow tint... (((
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Yeah, I'm kinda thinking the same now, which hopefully means the same all around the world. Like they have finally corrected all the issues, albeit a bit late. Kinda sucks as I now see the confirmation for the Z2...
I've been going through all the touchscreen issue threads, cant repeat any kind of problems at all with it. Just keeps tracking perfectly.
Same with the screen, I can't see any yellow shade. Colours look great, viewing angles do change the colours a tiny bit, but it's better than the Xperia S. Compared it to 2 Xperia S phones, and it looks brighter and also a more "correct" looking white to the rather blueish white of the Xperia S. Gunna go into a shop here and compare to a display Z1 soon.

Minibull said:
Yeah, I'm kinda thinking the same now, which hopefully means the same all around the world. Like they have finally corrected all the issues, albeit a bit late. Kinda sucks as I now see the confirmation for the Z2...
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Where is that confirmation?

My Z1 is from even newer batch, I suppose (if that's what it means), with serial BH912. Screen is great, though for a while after updating to 4.3 it became warmer but then returned back, by itself, to the colder colors.
Though, the update to 4.3 nearly gave me a heart attack then the phone did not start after it. I had to plug it into charger and do the power button + volume up procedure to return it back to life.
Bought it yesterday, and I do not care about upcoming Z2, - you can never stay on top of things with technology nowadays, there is something new and better all the time.
This is an awesome phone and I expect that Sony will provide major OS upgrades for at least a couple of years to come. And I expect that this will mean that there will be RAW photo functionality, which is something that I want the most, as everything else is excellent.

Mine's is BH900, model C6943, no yellow tint, compared to Xperia ZQ (brazilian Xperia ZL) but definitely touch screen issue. To be sure do the touch screen test on the service menu while gripping the metal bezel.

Morlock O said:
Where is that confirmation?
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I just saw it in the general forum. Sure it's not really official, but still.
stra said:
My Z1 is from even newer batch, I suppose (if that's what it means), with serial BH912. Screen is great, though for a while after updating to 4.3 it became warmer but then returned back, by itself, to the colder colors.
Though, the update to 4.3 nearly gave me a heart attack then the phone did not start after it. I had to plug it into charger and do the power button + volume up procedure to return it back to life.
Bought it yesterday, and I do not care about upcoming Z2, - you can never stay on top of things with technology nowadays, there is something new and better all the time.
This is an awesome phone and I expect that Sony will provide major OS upgrades for at least a couple of years to come. And I expect that this will mean that there will be RAW photo functionality, which is something that I want the most, as everything else is excellent.
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Mine was already running 4.3 when I got it, I didn't have to update it. Maybe the serial numbers don't relate to build date XD
Definatly it is a great phone so far, pretty much just what I was looking for. I was sick of the Xperia S running out of ram and just general laggyness. This is a welcome change, so so smooth at doing anything. I did an Antutu benchmark and got 35139, not that it means much.
And yeah, I don't reckon the "Z2" or whatever it will be called at MWC will be a replacement.
CSL00 said:
Mine's is BH900, model C6943, no yellow tint, compared to Xperia ZQ (brazilian Xperia ZL) but definitely touch screen issue. To be sure do the touch screen test on the service menu while gripping the metal bezel.
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Just done a load more tests, nope can't get it to glitch out.

Minibull said:
I just saw it in the general forum. Sure it's not really official, but still.
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lol its a rumour... don't believe anything you see in the general section... a lot knee jerk reactions here.... if it is official, you will hear it from sony or get some leaked pictures etc... example, the Z1 compact has been leaked since november... we had the actually pictures... back then everyone whats shouting Z2!Z2! turns out its just a Z1 mini lol
few things you need to remember before believing rumours of flagships:
1. real sony flagship has japanese names
2. they release it first in UK and Asia before the US
3. we will have real leaks months before official release (actual picture of the looks, or camera quality etc) not just someone saying it.

Minibull said:
Hi all,
So I've just bought a new Z1 to replace my Xperia S. I was a bit worried about the screen troubles, but now that I have it in my hand, it actually not that bad at all. Everything is good with the phone, but I was wondering about the serial numbers.
After finding a thread where serial numbers were trying to be linked with poor screens, I saw variations of BH or CB listed as the serial. BH901, CB512, etc.
I went to find mine, and I wasn't able to find anything on the net about it. Seems the serial is BH910. Anyone have any info, or have one the same?
Also, is there anyway I can find the date of manufacture for the phone? I haven't been able to find a country of origin either, even though it's going to be China or Brazil.
Cheers
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do not give f* with these reports.
for example xperiaguide site report some specific serial numbers that have no problem and others have!!! even newer!
http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/10/...eria-z1-yellow-hue-tint-issue-display-screen/
Clear white, no yellow hue (serial starts with)
BH902A***
BH902****
BH908****
Clear white, after using screen adjuster (serial starts with)
(2x) BH903****
Yellow hue (serial starts with)
(2x) BH904****
BH905****
BH909****
how it possible when there s same tech used for display!
these are bull**** and just users experience
in this list there s both new and old serial number that has problem!
u must check it technically;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49407649&postcount=174
after all in new update for xperia z1 we will get white-balance app that can end up all these reports!
i had xperia Z and i bought it few days after international release and almost of users talked about bad display! yeah that was not like AMOLED But it was LCD and one of the best LCD i used. then white-balance came and i change it to blue hue to be like amoled;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283473
after that almost of users got that there was kernel problem and not hardware!
in my eyes Z1 screen when u i go to setting is grey and not yellow.
also check this for touch-screen problem.
and look on LG G2 screen that seems yellow !! (it s not yellow exactly it s LCD)
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x102x96x said:
do not give f* with these reports.
for example xperiaguide site report some specific serial numbers that have no problem and others have!!! even newer!
http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/10/...eria-z1-yellow-hue-tint-issue-display-screen/
Clear white, no yellow hue (serial starts with)
BH902A***
BH902****
BH908****
Clear white, after using screen adjuster (serial starts with)
(2x) BH903****
Yellow hue (serial starts with)
(2x) BH904****
BH905****
BH909****
how it possible when there s same tech used for display!
these are bull**** and just users experience
in this list there s both new and old serial number that has problem!
u must check it technically;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49407649&postcount=174
after all in new update for xperia z1 we will get white-balance app that can end up all these reports!
i had xperia Z and i bought it few days after international release and almost of users talked about bad display! yeah that was not like AMOLED But it was LCD and one of the best LCD i used. then white-balance came and i change it to blue hue to be like amoled;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283473
after that almost of users got that there was kernel problem and not hardware!
in my eyes Z1 screen when u i go to setting is grey and not yellow.
also check this for touch-screen problem.
and look on LG G2 screen that seems yellow !! (it s not yellow exactly it s LCD)
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Hmm. I'm thinking of buying a Z1 on ebay, based on the above should I avoid the serial numbers mentioned or is it just pot luck ?

Zaim2012 said:
Hmm. I'm thinking of buying a Z1 on ebay, based on the above should I avoid the serial numbers mentioned or is it just pot luck ?
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these are just nonsense collection from xperiaguide site.
buy Xperia Z1 and enjoy there s no display issue at all the yellow tint or hue and ... are just because of calibration and not because of bad hardware. the calibration will be nice after next firmware update (that will add white-balance)
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x102x96x said:
these are just nonsense collection from xperiaguide site.
buy Xperia Z1 and enjoy there s no display issue at all the yellow tint or hue and ... are just because of calibration and not because of bad hardware. the calibration will be nice after next firmware update (that will add white-balance)
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those nonsense collection are the serial number reported on XDA by many non sense members here. If you doubt go flip some pages back on Z1 threads.
Here is the link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46025715#post46025715 post by XDA member WouterNLD.
Now go on calling him nonsense