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Hello,
How are you?
So, I'm thinking about buying a tablet.
My main goal is to have a biggest, more comfortable device for web browsing to complement my galaxy nexus.
I was thinking about a nexus 7, but being too close on size to my nexus, made me consider a 10 inch model.
I liked the fact that the nexus 7 is updated by Google and runs stock android, but there seems to be a good community of support for Samsung tabs, and with ROMs like cm9 and cm10, that might not be the deal breaker.
I also looked at the Acer a700, because of its screen. The high res is really appealing, but the price is around 400.
I can get a sweet deal on a tab 10.1, for 200 Euros. So, is it a good bet today?
Thanks.
Cheers
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I'm happy with it especially after ics update
But why don't consider Asus prime?, note 10.1?
Or wait for the next generation from Samsung I think it will be soon
10.1 inch is good for broswe internet go ahead and get ur tab
aelsharawi said:
I'm happy with it especially after ics update
But why don't consider Asus prime?, note 10.1?
Or wait for the next generation from Samsung I think it will be soon
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The reason I'm interested in the tab 10.1 is mainly the price.
At this time I don't know if I would use a tablet all that much.
At first I'm guessing I would just use it in the couch to do some web browsing.
When I go out, I usually just take my nexus in my pocket and it pretty much covers my on the go needs.
If I have a tablet, I might take out out sometimes, but my fear is not using it enough. That's why I am not thinking about a tf700 or iPad 3. I just think I would not use them enough and would probably feel sorry for spending 600 on a device to sit on the shelf...
Anyway, does the tab 10.1 still holds it's own against those tegra 3 tablets?
How is web browsing with the screen's low PPI?
Cheers
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gdourado said:
The reason I'm interested in the tab 10.1 is mainly the price.
At this time I don't know if I would use a tablet all that much.
At first I'm guessing I would just use it in the couch to do some web browsing.
When I go out, I usually just take my nexus in my pocket and it pretty much covers my on the go needs.
If I have a tablet, I might take out out sometimes, but my fear is not using it enough. That's why I am not thinking about a tf700 or iPad 3. I just think I would not use them enough and would probably feel sorry for spending 600 on a device to sit on the shelf...
Anyway, does the tab 10.1 still holds it's own against those tegra 3 tablets?
How is web browsing with the screen's low PPI?
Cheers
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I got my wife a Tab 10.1 on clearance ($250) a couple of months ago. I bought my Nexus 7 at the same time. The only time there's a difference between us performance-wise is 3d gaming. All other times there's no real difference.
EDIT: She's very happy with the device for web browsing.
johnqevil said:
I got my wife a Tab 10.1 on clearance ($250) a couple of months ago. I bought my Nexus 7 at the same time. The only time there's a difference between us performance-wise is 3d gaming. All other times there's no real difference.
EDIT: She's very happy with the device for web browsing.
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Thank you for your reply.
That is really helpful.
can you tell me your opinion about the difference in PPI from both models, since they both have the same resolution, but the nexus is smaller?
Also, how is the tab for typing with the thumbs in portrait mode?
Cheers
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A modded 10.1 with performance tweaks is a joy to use. Battery life is sick @ 7000mah too. I have one for myself and one for the wife and they're wonderful. The kernel I'm running is OC'd to 1.4GHz and GPU @ 400 so while it's still not a match for newer devices, 3d games are still running nicely. A build.prop tweak for increasing buffer size will make web browsing even more enjoyable and most custom roms account for that, I've found.
In portrait mode the tab is still a bit wide...if you have long thumbs you shouldn't have any issues. If you were cursed with bitty digits stick with landscape and key the way you normally would.
I don't know anything about the Tegra 3 devices but I can tell you about my experience with the GT7500 . The main reason I got it was for Web browsing and watching video content on my daily commute. I really like using using this device and I may be imagining it but the display seems crisper since ICS updated. If you can get one really cheap I say buy it
I think it is
I think it is an option, is fast, convenient and runs android. The only think i guess should be reconsidered, is the price since with the introduction of the Kindle Fire HD, its price is now prohibitive.
If you can get it for under 250, I would think so. If you're a spec freak, you might prefer a quad core but you'll pay a lot more for a ten incher.
It depends on what you plan on doing on the tablet.
Yes, I can get it under 250 and I just plan on using it for web browsing, tapatalk, some note taking, videos... no gaming. Just maybe the occasional angry birds type of game.
Cheers
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No. There are better and cheaper options.
ASUS is a better choice..bang for the buck.
Google Nexus is pretty sweet also.
I own these Samsung Galaxy tabs gentlemen...this is an unbiased opinion.
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İn my opinion,in this year (Q4 2012) Galaxy tab 10.1 is still nice tablet.but in 2013 GTab 10.1 become old.my advice is you should not take it.wait 2013 :good:
Hello.
I know it is not state of the art, but all I want is a tablet to web browse on the couch or on the coffee shop.
I am also thinking about an original Motorola xoom. It is almost the same specs as the tab 10.1, but it runs stock android without the need for custom ROMs.
If I get any of the two cheap enough, maybe I could resell them in a couple of months and then pick a better 2013 tablet without much loss.
And until then I could have a nice tablet to browse...
Thoughts?
Does a 1920x1200 screen make a huge difference in browsing experience? Is it worth twice the money?
Cheers! And thanks
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In my opinion the only good thing ever to come from Motorola was their MC68000 CPU chip.
And that is very ancient computer history..
Motorola products do not have good track records.
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Argos have been knocking them out at "half price" in the UK. Mainly 3G models left for home delivery. Likely to be as rare as hens teeth in store. I've ordered a 16GB 3G model for £250 (it's being delivered tomorrow ). Seems like good value to me.
Linky here
Check in store stock at iCheckStock
So, how is the state of CM10 development for the tab 10.1?
Already with project butter and stable?
Cheers
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I can tell you that prior to the ICS update, I was very unhappy with the Galaxy Tab 10.1. It was frustratingly slow, and using it was not a pleasant experience. Then I bought a Nexus 7 and totally fell in love with it. I did end up tweaking it with Nova launcher, but did not root it. After the ICS update I still wasn't happy with the performance of the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Then I added Nova launcher and the same tweaks as for the Nexus 7. Did not root the Galaxy tablet either. And the performance seems to have improved so I am no longer complaining. However, I have to say that I still rarely use the 10" tablet. For me the 7" form factor and the higher pixel density works better. Or the weight. The 10" tablet never leaves the house, and rarely leaves the bedroom. The 7" tablet goes everywhere. I would recommend giving some thought to what size works for you best. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages. The 10" tablet should be better at note taking. I've seen lots of comments that the 10" should be better for videos and web browsing, but that hasn't been my experience. The Nexus 7 seems to have more apps available for it. For example, Flipboard is available for the Nexus 7, but not for the Galaxy tab. (It works fine on the Galaxy tablet, you just can't get the apk from the Google Play store.) If I had $250 to spend and did not have either tablet, I would either buy the Nexus 7, or save up for a better 10" tablet. I don't think the original Galaxy Tab 10.1 is worth $250, not when you can get a tablet that works better for $199.
For the usage you describe either the galaxy tab 10.1 or the xyboard would suffice (the later having microSD expandability). If the Asus Transformer TF300 is in the same price range the it is worthy of a look too (tegra 3), though I'm not sure what the status of development is for that device.
It has taken a long time for development to get to the point that it has for the galaxy tab 10.1 due to how long Samsung decided to wait to release ICS. CM9 development is far along with CM10 still needing work. There are some great devs here as in other device forums.
As for screen resolution one would expect that despite the color accuracy issues of the nexus 7's screen the higher pixel density of that panel would render text better and in my comparison between the two (I own both) that is the case so I would expect no different from a 1080p screen on a 10-inch form factor. That said the 10.1 does have a very nice panel and it's adequate for the use you describe.
Its great that you're doing the research so that you enter into your purchase eyes wide open. Know that you're buying into an aging platform and make sure you can live with the tradeoffs that come with that in order to get the lower price you're looking for.
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I thank you for your insights!
There are really helpful info here!
In regard to the nexus 7, it is a device that is also on my mind. Mainly because as I said, I love my nexus phone and the whole nexus experience of stock android and updates from Google.
Does who own both, how is the web browsing on the 7? Does the higher PPI makes up for the smaller screen?
How is using nexus 7 vs a smartphone like the galaxy nexus? Very different? Or is it a close experience?
Cheers and thanks!
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so I'm torn between this and the Nexus 7. Please tell me what you like about the note and why I should get it over the Nexus 7. Or if you don't like it and you think I should get the Nexus 7.
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so I'm torn between this and the Nexus 7. Please tell me what you like about the note and why I should get it over the Nexus 7. Or if you don't like it and you think I should get the Nexus 7.
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There are a ton of posts already with comparisons. If u search for them u can get more information.
Note is the best 10 inch tablet, while n7 is the best 7 inch tablet.
Figure out if u like 10ijch or 7 inch better.
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I have both and use them for different reasons. I like to game and read books on the Nexus 7 due to the size.
With the Note 10.1 I like to surf the web, watch movies and listen to music.
If I had to pick one it would be the Note 10.1 due to the quality, the specs and the overall function.
I came from xoom to here n i nvr regret at all
Note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why get the Nexus 7 when you can just look at your phone? Also, the Note has the pen.
I bought the Note and gave my 7 inch tablet to my GF. Haven't regretted that choice for a second.
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So do games work well on the note ?? And is jellybean available?
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So do games work well on the note ?? And is jellybean available?
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Are you serious? How can you ask people which tablet is "better" for you when you don't even know the basic specs of either tablet? Sounds like you need to do some research before asking your questions -- otherwise, we won't be able to really help you.
Nexus 7:
7 inch
vanilla android 4.1 (JB)
Tegra 3
$199-$250
Note 10.1:
10 inch
Currently android 4.0, soon to be updated to 4.1 w/Touchwiz
Exynos 4412 + Mali 400MP
s-pen
$499-$550
What you're asking is comparing apples vs oranges. Which of these tablets is right for you is for YOU to decide. What you want to do with your tablet has everything to do with which one you should choose. Do you value the S-pen? If so, buy the note. Do you want an inexpensive device running plain jellybean with updates straight from Google? Get the Nexus 7.
Whatever you do, do your homework first & familiarize yourself with the devices. The specs and info on both are everywhere on the web. If you want to hear about people's experiences with the Note 10.1, there are TONS of posts here detailing just that. Head over to the Nexus forums to find similar posts on that device, too. Go to the store and play with both in hand. Read about which one is good for the tasks you want it to do. Make yourself a list of pros and cons for each. Given that the two devices you've listed are so vastly different in spec and usage, I should think your choice will end up being an easy one.
That said, I love my Note 10.1, but I bought it specifically for the s-pen feature. It just happens to outperform all of my other devices at just about everything else, too, so I've no regrets with my purchase. Sound quality is amazing (both speakers and with my headphones). I love S-Note & Photoshop Touch. Video playback is great. Games run beautifully & I do not believe I've had a single FC yet. It does everything I want & it does it with ease.
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So do games work well on the note ?? And is jellybean available?
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Yes. As others have posted in XDA, not yet.
To expand on my answers, you should know that not all games will work on the Nexus 7 stock due to its size. Same as some games may not work on the 10" platform either (although more seem to run on 10" than 7").
Honestly you should go and figure out why you want a tablet in the first place THEN ask questions. Sounds to me like you are partially obsessed with having the newest Android OS and gaming, which as of this moment leaves you with the Nexus 7 since it is the only one with Jelly Bean stock.
I appreciate all your feedback. I know I'm coming off like I didn't do any research but I did do some... I have never owned a tablet so I wanted some feedback on which one is best. There is no one thing I want to do with it, I want the best tablet to do everything. I want to basically replace my laptop and then some. I want a big screen so this one appealed to me, I want to be able to play games with no lag, software isn't a deal breaker for me but I'm sure JB will get to this device soon enough. I love Sammy, I currently have the epic 4g touch and love it. I've heard excellent thing about the nexus 7 and nothing about the note 10.1 from friends. So I came here...
RussellEstridge25 said:
I want to basically replace my laptop and then some.
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Whether an Android tablet can do this or not depends on what you do with your laptop. If it's consumption, e-mail, and the occasional document you'll be fine. If you connect to physical networks, use a lot of MS products, and have to format and print stuff you'll be better off looking at a W8 tablet when they come out. One of the biggest differences between a 7" and 10" tablet is portability. With the smaller tablet it's easier to hold with one hand and you can stuff it in smaller places when you're carrying it around. The obvious downside is you give up a lot of display real estate in the process. Go in to a B&M store and spend some time with each trying out the things you'll do most often. My phone has a 4.7" display so to me a 7" tablet isn't a big enough leap to make me want to consider it.
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Whether an Android tablet can do this or not depends on what you do with your laptop. If it's consumption, e-mail, and the occasional document you'll be fine. If you connect to physical networks, use a lot of MS products, and have to format and print stuff you'll be better off looking at a W8 tablet when they come out. One of the biggest differences between a 7" and 10" tablet is portability. With the smaller tablet it's easier to hold with one hand and you can stuff it in smaller places when you're carrying it around. The obvious downside is you give up a lot of display real estate in the process. Go in to a B&M store and spend some time with each trying out the things you'll do most often. My phone has a 4.7" display so to me a 7" tablet isn't a big enough leap to make me want to consider it.
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Mainly just browsing, downloading files such as roms, and the occasional torrent file, I have a separate work laptop for all that other stuff. What do you all use yours for?
If you're even considering the Nexus 7, then you're not focused on power. So I'd say that it comes down to 2 things: Are you A)Buying it for any productivity related reasons that would benefit from having a stylus, or B) Going to be playing lots of graphic intensive games? If you answered "yes" to either if these questions, then pick up the Note (Although you could get by with the newest galaxy tab for gaming).If not, get the 7.
The Note does everything the Nexus 7 does minus Jellybean, which will change soon. Top features the Nexus doesn't have that I use and will use:
Stylus and Handwriting Recognition- Very useful for taking notes, writing poems, composition, doodling, funner than typing.
Bigger Screen- Videos, Reading, Visibility
Micro SD slot- expandable storage
2GB RAM
I would say the Note is just like the Nexus just with more productivity capabilities and more powerful.
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The Note does everything the Nexus 7 does minus Jellybean, which will change soon. Top features the Nexus doesn't have that I use and will use:
Stylus and Handwriting Recognition- Very useful for taking notes, writing poems, composition, doodling, funner than typing.
Bigger Screen- Videos, Reading, Visibility
Micro SD slot- expandable storage
2GB RAM
I would say the Note is just like the Nexus just with more productivity capabilities and more powerful.
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Actually for gaming I would go with the Nexus 7 because of Tegra specific games and apps...
Also the Nexus 7 will have a much more active dev scene, if that is what you are into.
That said I went with the Note 10.1. It's actually Samsung's TouchWiz interface and apps that won me over
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Actually for gaming I would go with the Nexus 7 because of Tegra specific games and apps...
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I own both devices and the Note 10.1 is clearly better for gaming due to faster and smoother performance and much better speakers.
Would pick the note....I came from the transformer prime....No tegra graphics but everything else is a plus....hands down winner for me is the note
I also have both and have hardly touched the Nexus 7 since I got the Note.
If I had to choose only one, it would be the Note without even stopping to blink.
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I just got a Note
I was in your shoes a few weeks ago. I really wanted to upgrade my Acer A500 with an iPad 3. But then I decided to really question what I wanted. I weighed 10" tablets against the 7" tablets. The Nexus 7 I really liked at first. What turned my off was the lack of a microSD slot. That's one of the things that turned me off to the iPad. I saw the Note from a distance but as soon as I got some time to play with it in the store I was hooked. Writing with the pen is amazing! Plus the difference between a 7" and 10" screen is pretty big. You can watch a video and surf the internet at the same time. I haven't been even a little disappointed since I got my Note!
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I was in your shoes a few weeks ago. I really wanted to upgrade my Acer A500 with an iPad 3. But then I decided to really question what I wanted. I weighed 10" tablets against the 7" tablets. The Nexus 7 I really liked at first. What turned my off was the lack of a microSD slot. That's one of the things that turned me off to the iPad. I saw the Note from a distance but as soon as I got some time to play with it in the store I was hooked. Writing with the pen is amazing! Plus the difference between a 7" and 10" screen is pretty big. You can watch a video and surf the internet at the same time. I haven't been even a little disappointed since I got my Note!
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I heard the note is more pixelated, and wouldn't the nexus 7 be more ideal for games since you can hold it easier? Not that gaming is the deal breaker for me by any means....
Hello everyone.
I'm kind of a newbie here.
I joined a long time ago when I had and Advent Vega tab however I have never posted before.
I have the cash in my pocket for a 10" tablet and was looking at either the Galaxy Note 10.1 or the Asus Transformer Infinity.
I managed to finally make my mind up and go for the Note 10.1 and then Google decided to throw a spanner in the works with the Nexus 10!
So, which do I go for??
GNOTE ][
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the Nexus ten is better in all aspects. the screen is by far better. it has an higher resolution and pixel density than the ipad 3
MarcusSi15: except UI, multi tasking, storage, and stylus support.
nexus runs a phone/phablet UI while the note has a proper tablet UI.
the note has the ability to have certain apps running in the foreground at the same time.
the note also has support for sdxc cards.
and while the nexus can only work with a capacitive stylus, the note comes with a Wacom stylus which is way more accurate.
nexus 10 by far with its screen depth amazing!!!
Easy, buy the nexus. The note 10.1 has a horrible screen on it. My og galaxy tab 10.1 has a better looking screen than the note tablet.
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do youself a favor DONT buy the note 10.1. Im using it now but will return it to buy the nexus 10. screen is bad comparing to nexus 10. software lags...
The Note 10.1 is a great tablet, the screen resolution isnt the highest, but it still looks good. If you in to drawing or writing the Note is the choice, its also quad so gaming is amazing as well, its also does multitasking like a champ.
The Nexus is a good looking tablet too, it depends what you find most appealing, A higher res screen with up to date software, or a specialized tablet that also handles any other task better than most tabs out.
The S-pen is great I want a N10 but dont know if i can give up the S-pen.
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chugglet said:
Hello everyone.
I'm kind of a newbie here.
I joined a long time ago when I had and Advent Vega tab however I have never posted before.
I have the cash in my pocket for a 10" tablet and was looking at either the Galaxy Note 10.1 or the Asus Transformer Infinity.
I managed to finally make my mind up and go for the Note 10.1 and then Google decided to throw a spanner in the works with the Nexus 10!
So, which do I go for??
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galaxy all the way :good:
Thanks for the replies everyone and as I expected, the opinion is divided.
I see it like this:
The obvious Pro points for the Nexus 10 are the amazing screen, the updated software (including the lack of Touchwiz), Google's obvious work on it and the price.
However the big negative for me is no SD Card support.
The Pros for the Note are the S-Pen, the Quad Core Processor, expandable memory & multi-tasking, I'm also assuming that there will be a software update at some point too.
The negatives are the screen (a lot lower resolution but still ok) & touchwiz (however that can be changed with a different ROM).
Both are built by Samsung and from what I have seen, in grey they don't look that much different!
I currently have an S3 and love it so I think I way be swaying towards the Note!!
Gnote vs nexus 10= n10
To be truthful its like comparing older vs newer
1. Processor: gnote's quad core is nowhere as fast as n10's a15 is next generation arm soc with Mali t604
2. UI: touchwiz is an abomination of common sense, its bloated, ugly, inefficient compared to stock Ui
3. Updates: Samsung is the worst OEM when it comes to update, I am running jb on my gtab 10.1 yet Samsung thinks it does not deserve update, ludicrous! But nexus devices are always first on update
4. Community support: nexus devices are more favored by devs since sources are available and thus more custom ROM and overall hacking
5. Display: since it beats apple, no point talking about it
6. Ram: gnote=1gb, n10= 2gb
7. Unless u want stylus ( which is barely useful), sdcard ( I think 32gb is reasonably priced and should be enough for majority) I think nexus 10 takes the win in every comparison possible
U might enjoy your s3, but why would you get less for you money when there's option for more?
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chugglet said:
Thanks for the replies everyone and as I expected, the opinion is divided.
I see it like this:
The obvious Pro points for the Nexus 10 are the amazing screen, the updated software (including the lack of Touchwiz), Google's obvious work on it and the price.
However the big negative for me is no SD Card support.
The Pros for the Note are the S-Pen, the Quad Core Processor, expandable memory & multi-tasking, I'm also assuming that there will be a software update at some point too.
The negatives are the screen (a lot lower resolution but still ok) & touchwiz (however that can be changed with a different ROM).
Both are built by Samsung and from what I have seen, in grey they don't look that much different!
I currently have an S3 and love it so I think I way be swaying towards the Note!!
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nah the dual core processor in the Nexus 10 outperforms that quad core processor in the Note 10.1. it's even better than the snapdragon S4 pro in the nexus 4... (wonder why a dual core is more powerful? google it...)
also price is a big factor here. the note 10.1 is 100$ more.. lol The real pros of the Note is the SD slot and the pen.the nexus 10 is better in every other aspect.
But hey, it's your money, your call.
I wanted to give my feedback on the matter. I have had the Transformer prime and infinity, have had the Nexus 7 and currently have a SGS 7.7.
The reason I no longer have Asus's Tegra 3 line is that all of them have had slow internal storage which caused crashing problems. I considered the Note 10.1 before deciding to get the Galaxy Tab 7.7. The main reason I didn't get the note was that I felt it was overpriced (given I didn't care for wacom support). With the Nexus 10's release, I believe that even more strongly. At $400 for a 16gb Note 10.1, its a feasable option because expandable memory matters.
Nexus 10 vs Note
Pros:
Processor: The Nexus 10 has Samsung's next generation processor which is faster than the Note 10.1's.
Screen: It has a higher resolution, higher technology screen.
Nexus program: It will stay updated to the newest software for longer (and with effectively no wait time). It will have a larger development community.
Cons:
Nexus program: It lacks a micro sd card reader so memory is limited to 16/32gb.
Non-Note: It lacks wacom stylus support. Samsung's Note software streamlines multitasking split screen.
Thanks for the reply wtgserpant.
Some interesting points.
1. When you say the CPU is nowhere near as fast, will it really be that noticeable bearing in mind one is dual core and the other is quad?
2. RAM on the note is 2gb isn't it?
3. Do the current Note 10.1 ROM's remove Touchwiz (or at least the useless crap out of it)?
4. I agree with the updates comment, my S3 is unbranded and I received JB after most of the Service Providers!
5. The Note is currently £399 in the UK with £50 cashback from Samsung (Making it £349). Not a bad price really?
Oh and completely off of the subject, I have just seen your location as New York. Stay Safe mate.
If you write a lot go with Note 10.1 (handwrite on lectures, at work, taking notes, scribbling, drawing etc.) - nothing can match the Wacom stylus, nothing. If not - Nexus 10.
@chuglet:
Ad. 1. They should be similar in practise, though Nexus 10 will probably be better optimised being Jelly Bean and Nexus. Nexus 10 has much more powerful GPU but it is needed for so many pixels.
AD. 2. Yes, 2GB. Keep in mind Nexus 10 will probably have more memory for GPU so it will be more like 1.5GB in reality - but it should be more than enough.
Ad. 3. Touchwiz is quite nice on Note 10.1. I wouldn't want it removed. But yes, there are ROMs without it.
Aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!!
Decisions decisions.
I came to work thus morning with the cash in my pocket to get the note but now I'm not sure!
I don't do a lot of writing or drawing but I like the option of having it there if I want to.
I also like all of the obvious plus points of the nexus; updates, processor, price!!
Should I wait until it is actually released and then really come the two?
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:good: galaxy Note 10.1
Absolutely Nexus Ten
I have decided to go for the nexus!
I've registered my interest on the play store so hopefully I will be able to pr-order soon!
Thanks for all of the advice!
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MarcusSi15 said:
the Nexus ten is better in all aspects. the screen is by far better. it has an higher resolution and pixel density than the ipad 3
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I Agree!
I've owned a N7 2012 for about a year, and I have a buyer for my old one, so I'm looking at upgrading. I haven't used a stylus device in years, but I used to love them: precision text editing, sketches to supplement an explanation, and unambiguous link clicking in the browser.
I expect longevity from my devices, and my previous experience has been that the charging connector breaks first on every mobile device I've had. This gives the N7 the serious advantage with the Qi inductive charging.
OTOH, the Note's performance is more future-proof: a 96GB Note (thanks SD-card expansion) will stay useful longer with a 32GB N7, and the benchmarks also come out clearly in favour of the Note: (Slashgear Note 6900 http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/quadrant_gnote8_attwtmk.jpg vs N7 5600 http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content...enshot_2013-07-25-13-17-52-google-nexus-7.jpg ).
But the performance doesn't count for all that much, since my main use for my current N7 has been reading: PDFs, e-books and websites. I use it mostly around the house, and my phone when I'm out and about.
Can anyone suggest something I haven't considered that may be relevant? The price isn't going to sway me much one way or the other.
Thanks
I prefer note 8 due to larger size and I won't mind carrying a slightly bigger one. Was coming from 7.7. I would have taken if it's nexus 8.
Happy user of note 8.
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I don't know what I can add except my reason for buying a Note 8.0--the pen. I bought my Note for school to replace everything in my bookbag--no more notebooks, no more laptop, no more text books. So far I'm very happy with my decision. I was also considering the new Nexus but because I wanted the ability to take notes, the lack of a wacom pen was off-putting. The Note was well worth the extra money for me.
I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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why should we not expect updates for the note 8.0? I thought they were already working on e 4.2.2 build. in fact a quick search suggests thats its already available
I had the nexus 7.2 for a week and a half, the 16Gb version and it had a very nice screen fast processor but returned it due to frequent reboots, apparently it only happens on the 16Gb version. Got the note 8 instead. Am very satisfied with it.
I'd recommend you get the Nexus 7.2 first use it for a week then return and get the Note 8, that way you can see the strength and weakness of both and then decide which one is more useful to you. I am glad I did that, the Nexus 7.2 was how to say this not to hurt anyones feelings -plain vanilla- which is not bad, but you can't really compare the two because of the S pen feature on the Note 8. The Note 8 screen is not bad at all, but the 7.2 beats it, and I find that I do use the S pen more often than I thought I would. Also I'm a long time Samsung user and I like their products. I gave the Nexus 7.2 a try but am more comfortable with the Note 8, also love the S pen, for that alone it was worth it to me.
So as I mentioned get one use it as is for a week or two then return it and get the other one. Test both, but in my opinion you can't really pin the two tablets against each other. They are both good just depends what you are going to use it for, if you're a big game player get the Nexus, if you going to use the tablet for other things get the Note 8
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why should we not expect updates for the note 8.0? I thought they were already working on e 4.2.2 build. in fact a quick search suggests thats its already available
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I've owned more than a few Samsung devices, I currently own a two SGS 3, AT&T and Sprint. Neither are on 4.2.2, which is why i'm on CM10.1.2. I'd be pretty happy with a TouchWiz 4.3, but I know Samsung is pretty lame at updates that's why I made that statement, if the Note does get the 4.2.2 update, that's great, but I don't think they will go past that.
Hopefully Samsung is doing an overhaul on TouchWiz all together, I may stick with Samsung devices, otherwise my next device will be a Nexus. I've given up hope for the skin based phones and updates.
It really comes down to how much you value the s-pen....i thought I'd get much more use out of it (i do a lot of handwritten note taking, but at meetings i typically type in notepad) and never did so I just put my Note8 up for sale because the extra $100 wasn't worth it because it was still faster/easier for me to jot something quick on a post it than to take out the spen, launch the note app, scribbe something, save it....
however when I was in school the ability to take down quick notes and write on-screen on pdfs/ppt was *very critical* and I loved my W7 tablet with ntrig (this is all pre-tablets so it just depends on your use case
With OTG usb, you can still use microsd on the Nexus7, althought it's a bit more work and takes up the charging port..not sure if the new N7 has that yet (you had to be rooted on the old N7 to use it)
screenwise, the new N7 quality is much better, but I find the slightly larger note 8 to actually be easier to read on and use
I'm close to making my final decision because I refuse to keep the Note 8.0 and the N7 (2013) that I currently have.
The N7 is super nice. The display keeps drawing me back over and over. I like the fact that I can watch Netflix on it and not accidentally press the back button like I tend to do on the Note 8.0. I love the crisp text in my ebooks. And who doesn't love stock?
The Note 8.0 is better from a productivity standpoint for me, and it's why it currently leads. Outside of holding it in landscape and pressing buttons accidentally, I actually prefer the feel of the Note 8.0 more than the new N7. The display isn't nearly as bad as some would have you believe either. Sure if you have it side by side the N7, you'll see it, but in my opinion it looks real good.
Also a sidenote for comic book readers. I use Comixology, and I'm not a fan of the panel to panel view unless I'm forced to use it due to something being very small. It's easier for me to read comics on the Note 8.0 compared to the N7. Probably because of the extra inch of real estate.
Probably the reason I still go back and forth is because I know I can expect updates and a vibrant dev community on the N7, but probably not so much with the Note 8.0. Heck, I have the AT&T LTE variant, and I sadly can't even root that yet. Good luck with your decision.
I went ahead and ordered the 32GB Nexus 7.2. I figure I can always sell it for about what I paid for it if I decide not to keep it.
I got the previous Nexus 7 as a gift, but actually ended up selling it (and keeping the more lowly spec'd Tab 2 7" I already had) because the Nexus was just so flaky. Apparently it was a great device prior to 4.1, but I only got onboard after that. Plus the speakers were PATHETIC (unacceptable for a device that screams multimedia consumption.) I'm hoping those are better this go-round as I use mine for backgound music/video quite a bit.
There's pros to being on the bleeding edge of updates I guess. But I almost view it like you're being an unofficial beta tester. Samsung may not always have the latest official Android version on all its flagship devices, but all my experiences with them to-date have been outstanding. There's a reason (beyond just marketing) that they're the most dominant OEM in the Android world.
If the primary purpose is reading as OP has posted, I would suggest note 8 to be better choice.
My primary reason for buying note 8.0 was reading (PDF's as well as comics) and considering that almost 38 GB of my external 64 Gig card is occupied by books i would say i am more than pleased by my choice.
The extra screen size does matter here though both share similar 16:10 aspect ratio , which is quite ok,
another surprise feature, the reading mode that samsung built into this is amazing (though it might appear strange at first) but now I just can't imagine reading without that , it's easier on eyes,less stress and for me makes for much better concentration. add a good reader app (I absolutely love the free perfect viewer app for pdf and comics)
The secondary thing for me was the s-pen. since i have been using wacom tablets on pc since late 90's I found this quite adequate. My N-5100 costed me around $530 USD) which is surely definitely on the costlier side of things however I would still consider it worth that extra dough.
I also primarily use this at home and mine is still unrooted (haven't found a need or reason to root it yet).
Gotta decide what's your most important feature.
For me tablets can have two distinct purposes, media consumption device or productivity device. As a media consumption device there isn't much use to me for a tablet because honestly, most things are just more convenient to do on my phone since I always have it, and it has a data connection.
Now as a productivity device, there are a couple things the note 8 excels at. PDF and textbook portability/editing, handwritten notes, and remote desktop control. The spen takes this device to a higher level of productivity because there is no device with a comparable stylus. But for anything else like word document editing, media production, music/picture editing, tablets in general fall short because laptops/desktops are just better.
So if you want a media consumption device, the new Nexus 7 is probably better or even the iPad for that matter. But for productivity the spen will make up for the other shortcomings like lower screen pixel density, less frequent operating system updates, etc.
MobileTechReview posted her review, comparing the two tablets. Everything she said is exactly the same thought I have between the two tablets. I currently have both. I'm more tempted to return the Nexus, but don't know yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7aPvUqdcds
But everything she states in the video is the same opinion that I have noticed from using them.
She doesn't mention bugs, but the Nexus has its own bugs too... such as apps crashing or becoming unresponsive to touches. I have seen the GPS crash several times using a GPS testing app.
It took me ages to decide between the N7 and note 8, and I decided on the note 8. But now I realise, that as I'm going university next year, I'll probably need a laptop, and I'm confused all over again
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I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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4.2.2 is already out for uk. I am on it now
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MobileTechReview posted her review, comparing the two tablets. Everything she said is exactly the same thought I have between the two tablets. I currently have both. I'm more tempted to return the Nexus, but don't know yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7aPvUqdcds
But everything she states in the video is the same opinion that I have noticed from using them.
She doesn't mention bugs, but the Nexus has its own bugs too... such as apps crashing or becoming unresponsive to touches. I have seen the GPS crash several times using a GPS testing app.
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Agree with almost everything she said as well. I disagree with her assessment of the speakers and volume though. While this year's Nexus finally has proper speakers they're still not as loud as the Note 8's. The quality is a bit better as far as separation/bass goes, but not as loud.
I'm probably going to stick with the Note 8. It's just hard to go back to 7" display no matter what the resolution. It's great that the text is clear, but it's tiny - and the saturation isn't as good. And I've already experienced the Nexus bugginess (unresponsive to touches) several times as well.
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4.2.2 is already out for uk. I am on it now
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How is it compared to 4.1?
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Agree with almost everything she said as well. I disagree with her assessment of the speakers and volume though. While this year's Nexus finally has proper speakers they're still not as loud as the Note 8's. The quality is a bit better as far as separation/bass goes, but not as loud.
I'm probably going to stick with the Note 8. It's just hard to go back to 7" display no matter what the resolution. It's great that the text is clear, but it's tiny - and the saturation isn't as good. And I've already experienced the Nexus bugginess (unresponsive to touches) several times as well.
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I haven't had any complaints about the Note 8.0 speakers either.
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How is it compared to 4.1?
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Maybe more smooth
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I own the original nexus 7...
I currently own an ipad 4 (so I'm used to looking at retina display), I've had the note 10.1, nexus 10, etc....
Honestly I think 8" is the sweet spot. I want to love thenew nexus 7 so bad but I feel like 7" is just a tad too small. The extra screen area from an 8" tablet seems sooo much larger and more usable when browsing websites. Am I crazy? I feel like I keep reading about screen clarity vs spen vs whatever ... but to me the real battle is do you prefer 7" vs 8" - I'm probably going to get both and then return the one I dont' like. As I said, I'm used to the retina screen as well as the beautiful screen on my htc one; however just playing around with the note in the store, the screen honestly isn't that bad and colors are quite quite good.
That said, the nexus 7 screen is by far superior BUT I still think the larger size provides so much better screen real estate and thus ease of use.
Anyone not get the nexus 7 simply because they don't like a 7" tablet?
Hey everyone.
Im gonna sell my Nexus 10 because its too big for me. I cant play games or surf the web comfortably. I use my tablet a lot everyday, much more than my phone, so I need it to be comfortable.
I think 8 inches is the perfect size for tablets, so Ive decided Im not gonna buy the Nexus 7.
So this leaves me with the Note 8.0 or the upcoming LG G Pad 8.3. This one has a 1080P screen and Snapdragon 600 (which Im not sure if its better than the CPU in the Note 8.0).
Both have 4.2.2, 2GB RAM, microSD slot, etc.
Do you guys think I should go for the LG because of the higher screen resolution or for the Note 8.0? It also has better materials, with the back being aluminum instead of plastic. It also has something similar to Multiwindow and another positive is the on screen buttons, much better suited for a tablet than capacitive and hardware buttons of the Note.
I must add I will have absolutely no use for the S Pen. I dont care for that and dont need it, so this will not factor in favor of the Note. Maybe I could even go for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8.0.
Thanks.
Sounds like you're in my situation. I sold my N10 due to the lag and size and got myself a Note 8. I thought I'd like the stylus more than I do, so I barely use it, even while browsing the Web. I plan to sell my Note 8 for a G Pad once it releases due to the better internals and screen. If you don't care about the stylus, just wait for the G Pad.
The only thing I'll miss about the Note 8 is the multi window feature. It's so nice for meetings if you need two apps open or need to take notes while viewing a PDF.
EDIT: stay away from the tab 3. It sucks.
I think a lot depends on what you will use it for. If you take notes I have to say the Note 8 is a great tablet. The LG looks pretty sweet, not sure the 600 is a step up from the 54xx in the note.
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I'll be using it mainly at home.
For note taking I normally use the Swype keyboard, so I don't really have any use for the stylus.
The full HD screen of the LG is a huge plus, but there's still no word when will it be available everywhere and at what price.
I know nothing about the LG, but the 8 inch tablet is the perfect size. I much prefer the Note 8 over the Nexus 7.
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I know nothing about the LG, but the 8 inch tablet is the perfect size. I much prefer the Note 8 over the Nexus 7.
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Yeah. I think 7 inches is too small to use for hours every day at home.
LG G Pad 8.3 to be available October 14th in Korea and other markets by the end of the year.
Price: 510$.
Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.
What about LTE
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I think a lot depends on what you will use it for. If you take notes I have to say the Note 8 is a great tablet. The LG looks pretty sweet, not sure the 600 is a step up from the 54xx in the note.
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What about LTE and using this as a phone replacement. I am leaning toward Note 8.0 because I like the idea of using it with a smartwatch.
The Snapdragon 600 is better than the SoC in the Note 8. In fact, considerably so. It is the same SoC as in the Galaxy S4, and benchmarks significantly higher than the Note 8, especially for video. Real world usage though, I don't notice much of a difference, if any. Perhaps it would not be ideal to push a 1080p display though.
If you have no use for the S-Pen, why would you even consider the Note 8? It is only worth the price if you have an actual use for the pen. Unlike the iPad Mini or the Nexus 7, it is not a tablet for the general public, and was never meant to be.
I just sold my note 10 and got the 8, the LG I read has no promised updates, the note 8 is promised key lime pie.. I love my note
I don't agree with the statement saying the Note 8 was not intended for the general public. Thats complete nonsense.
The cpu in the Note 8 is also faster than the Snapdragon. Its the gpu that isn't as fast.
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I'm selling my Note 8 for the G Pad. The G Pad has better internals, better screen, better design and materials. I don't use the S Pen nearly as much as I thought I would so there's no point in me hanging on to this. Besides, I'd just put CM on the G Pad, so updates don't matter from LG. If you put CM on the Note 8, you'd be missing 90% of the features.
I'm in the market for a new 8" tablet as well and the only android tablet that currently fits that criteria is the Tab 8 or Note 8.
I'm very interested in the G Pad 8.3 as well but the thing is there any indicator that there will be developers developing for it here in XDA? I don't think LG's software is any good and I'd love it if any AOSP roms are available it.
Edit: wops, didn't realise this is a Note 8.0 forum. Thought it was a place for general discussion. Explains my comment that is not related to the Note 8 at all. Sorry
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I don't agree with the statement saying the Note 8 was not intended for the general public. Thats complete nonsense.
The cpu in the Note 8 is also faster than the Snapdragon. Its the gpu that isn't as fast.
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You don't have to agree, but given it's price point as compared to the nexus 7 and ipad mini, I'm right. It was never intended as a mainstream tab and will never sell nearly as many units as the other tabs I mentioned. If you have no use for the pen, there are cheaper tabs out there.
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I just sold my note 10 and got the 8, the LG I read has no promised updates, the note 8 is promised key lime pie.. I love my note
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How much did you end up selling your n10 for? I have a 16 gb that I want to sell.
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Sensamic said:
I'll be using it mainly at home.
For note taking I normally use the Swype keyboard, so I don't really have any use for the stylus.
The full HD screen of the LG is a huge plus, but there's still no word when will it be available everywhere and at what price.
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Just saw this. Answers your question.
Nice but the Note 8 is the tab that works well for me.
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You don't have to agree, but given it's price point as compared to the nexus 7 and ipad mini, I'm right. It was never intended as a mainstream tab and will never sell nearly as many units as the other tabs I mentioned. If you have no use for the pen, there are cheaper tabs out there.
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i agree that the note 8 isn't targeted to the general public. the price and features make it a more concentrated device made for those who need or want the spen and wacom digitizer. a gen pub device price would have fallen in line with other devices. add the fact that promotion on most note products isn't very prevalent.
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How much did you end up selling your n10 for? I have a 16 gb that I want to sell.
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im in UK, in the BOX with original even screen cover, one samsung official book case and one amazon world map case £285
Well the new Windows 8.1 8" tablets ate starting to come with active digitizer and around $300, anyone consider those as an alternative?
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I've just ordered my G Pad for 314€ with postage in price. The other candidates were the Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10 ME302C (with Intel) for about 340€, and Ainol Novo 9 Spark for 250€. The MeMO Pad is a bit too big for me. The Spark has meaningless high resolution (aka Retina) and it's just an "Ainol"... you know... sh!ty components and stuff.
The ideal tablet size would be somewhere about 8,9"-9", so the LG's G Pad with 8,3" is the closest to it. And for it's price it offers some really nice HW and build quality. I just hope the ROM cookers and devs will like it too
About those W8 8" tablets, I dont know, I don't really trust W8 is enough multimedial and optimized for use on tablets. I prefer Android
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Any G Pad owner? Is there a screen protector in the box?