the king has fallen (high end games that dont work smoothly on max setting) - Galaxy S II General

The mali 400 in sgs 2 is bound by it's vertex and triangle perfomance so newer vertex and triangle heavy games will not run smoothly on S2
here some list that i tested :
Real Boxing no full effect
Gangstar rio (effects disabled on android)
Gangstar vegas(need optimization, still quite playable on high)
Anomaly 2 (vertex and triangle heavy games low perfomance benchmark score test)
modern combat 4 (need compatible rom and kernel,playable on latest neatrom but still not smooth)
Tainted Keep
Horn ( SGS 3 and note 2 optimized,seriously???!! lag on my sgs 2)
Conduit HD (optimized tegra 3 vertex and triangle heavy,still very playable but not smooth)
The dark knight rises (little - mid Stuttering on some area, i wonder is there any android phone that run this game smoothly)
still our S2 can play 90% games smoothly on max setting,the best and cheapest android gaming phone to date
any info or tips to play those game smoothly... just post below

I have i9100G and powervr.. is it better than i9100 mali 400?
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alvster said:
I have i9100G and powervr.. is it better than i9100 mali 400?
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From what I understood mali was supposed to be marginally better

Well its true that our mali 400mp its OLD almost 3 years
But still can play games
And what the f*** intensive graphics games on a phone ...c'mon i dont think that someone have an s2 (and plays the dark knight rises,i played it too and arkham origins) and doesnt have at least a dual core pc with at least 2 gb ram
I play games like assasins creed 4 far cry3 and crysis 3 on my i7 4770k 16gb ram ddr3 2133mhz on 2 monitors using asus gtx 690 4gb ram at 1920x1080 for each monitor
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alvster said:
I have i9100G and powervr.. is it better than i9100 mali 400?
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the power vr on i9100G is all round perfomer, it's perfomance is 2nd below mali 400 on dual core era

Hey, BTW
Real Boxing was working with Tegra 3 graphics on my i9100
Gangster Vegas was working very good on High as well
Modern combat 4 works great
The dark knight rises works great as well
I haven't encountered any lags with those games
Even Dead trigger 2 performance on the s2 is acceptable with the high graphics enabled
NOTE : I am running stock cyanogenmod 10.2
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ahmedelhofy said:
Hey, BTW
Real Boxing was working with Tegra 3 graphics on my i9100
Gangster Vegas was working very good on High as well
Modern combat 4 works great
The dark knight rises works great as well
I haven't encountered any lags with those games
Even Dead trigger 2 performance on the s2 is acceptable with the high graphics enabled
NOTE : I am running stock cyanogenmod 10.2
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I can pretty much confirm this on CM10.1, except maybe 'Real Boxing' haven't got around to ever playing it

all i can say that the galaxy s2 is always and will be a device that has its magic ... i tried the s4 and the note3 and all the galaxy new devices but the s2 has its ironic shape that most if us like and its performance is very very good and we are getting every single android version here thanks to xda alive members and its 4.3 inch screen which is to me the best in the business where its not small nor big :good: ...but all i hope is we can get an official kitkat or a new TW official rom newer than 4.1.2

CyanogenMod performance is much better than any touchwiz based rom, dorimanx kernel is awesome too but it's just part of your system not full system. I'm sure performance increase in games is also noticeable compared with samsung crap loaded roms. "Clean" android (aosp) is really clean. Only downside might been not perfect implementation of system parts that are only available for newer devices and these supported already by official updates to system base, so android 4.2.2, 4.3.1 and 4.4.1 is not perfect on s2 just because unofficial libraries still taken from 4.1.2 base. For example GTA III wasn't working on 4.3.1 but had no problems back with android 4.0.4... Compatiblity is random For FPS in games I'm still really happy we can at least run these games and as said before better get a PC if you want to play games, for price of today's high end phone you got great machine. S2 is enough for having a smooth android based device and for me that's a border where you need to think you need spend money on phone that won't be big change anyways or pc, console that will make real difference in gaming.

galaxy s2 is now like a midrange phone old gpu but still awesome
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ahmedelhofy said:
Hey, BTW
Real Boxing was working with Tegra 3 graphics on my i9100
Gangster Vegas was working very good on High as well
Modern combat 4 works great
The dark knight rises works great as well
I haven't encountered any lags with those games
Even Dead trigger 2 performance on the s2 is acceptable with the high graphics enabled
NOTE : I am running stock cyanogenmod 10.2
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for gangstar vegas and the dark kngiht rises does it always run smoothly or stutter in some area?
which version for real boxing?
which kernel?
mali v2?
cm 10.2 version build?
any buildprop edit?
seriously gonna download ASAP

amdultra said:
for gangstar vegas and the dark kngiht rises does it always run smoothly or stutter in some area?
which version for real boxing?
which kernel?
mali v2?
cm 10.2 version build?
any buildprop edit?
seriously gonna download ASAP
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Try running these games on DorimanX Kernel with CPU and GPU OCed. Should stutter less:good: (I dont play too much games myself but from experience DorimanX kernel + OC = Best performance SII and ever provide)

so after reading a couple of posts i guess it all comes down to rom level. I myself personally have not had any good gaming performance on slimbean roms or either it doesn't work at all.
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I haven't played the games you listed, but a week back I did install Injustice: Gods Among Us.
And I have not seen a single hiccup at all.
I'm running Stock 4.1.2, unrooted so obviously not overclocked either.
I'd say this is still a hell of a device..

Hi guys,
The king has not fallen yet.
Have you heared about PurePerformances X MOD? It does increase the phone performance without OC , someone told me he can play dead trigger 2 at max setting (playable)with this mod:good:,note:its flashable via CWM so flash this recovery first and the MOD.
Hope this helps
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Mali400 too weak for Note?

There are many games with stuttering issues, such as Asphalt 6 HD or this gameloft modern warfare clone. Maybe the Mail400 is too weak for the notes resolution? After all it was build for the SGS2 with lower res...
I noticed it too.
Hope You are wrong and ICS will solve this stuttering... If not I'm gonna sell my device and return to my old sGs2 that was smooth as silk
The Note stutters a lot more than the SII even outside gaming. Hopefully the ICS build for the Note is as decent as the one on the SII.
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I have no stuttering whatsoever on mine in Asphalt 6 with Chainfire 3D
Make sure your large-sized games are stored on the INTERNAL memory and not on your SD card. The internal memory reads at 30mb/s. Your SD card will not come close to that.
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Make sure your large-sized games are stored on the INTERNAL memory and not on your SD card. The internal memory reads at 30mb/s. Your SD card will not come close to that.
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Actually my Samsung class 10 does. Quite good for the price.
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Asphalt 6 also stutters in SGS2... make sure you use cf root and OC the GPU to 267Mhz - 1000Mhz with tegrak ultimate!
I did OC my GPU in my SGS2 and my note and don't see stuttering anymore
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Actually my Samsung class 10 does. Quite good for the price.
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Not for random read/write access. A class 4 would be better. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14456360&postcount=42
I think the GPU and CPU are fast enough, but the problem is within the rom.
Reckless racing 2, no doubt not the most intensive game, stutters on the Note with GB,
But while I was on ICS Leak (Rocket 1.5) the game was flawless.
So, I would place my bets on ICS delivering the Performance we are lacking.
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Reckless racing 2, no doubt not the most intensive game, stutters on the Note with GB,
But while I was on ICS Leak (Rocket 1.5) the game was flawless.
So, I would place my bets on ICS delivering the Performance we are lacking.
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I believe the reason for this is because ICS has GPU Acceleration Enabled where as GB does not however... I am on Darky Note ROM and it has the GPU Acceleration coded into it and I have never seen any stuttering of any kind using this ROM.
Perhaps give that a try...
You need Tegrak Ultimate and lock the gpu to 267 MHz.
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It has nothing g to do with hardware its becouse some games are not coded for our devices and therefore will not take full advantage of the CPU or gpu .
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quattro_rs said:
It has nothing g to do with hardware its becouse some games are not coded for our devices and therefore will not take full advantage of the CPU or gpu .
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And Bingo was his name-o. B-I-N-G-O B-I-N-G-O B-I-N-G-O, and Bingo was his name-o!
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And Bingo was his name-o. B-I-N-G-O B-I-N-G-O B-I-N-G-O, and Bingo was his name-o!
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Good memories
Use tegrak to do some gpu oc and you wont feel stutter
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ooidort said:
The Note stutters a lot more than the SII even outside gaming. Hopefully the ICS build for the Note is as decent as the one on the SII.
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ICS wont fix it for games that already have gpu acceleration. you can do lots with software, but you cant make up for a GPU that doesnt have enough graphical power.
the reason why the note stutters more on games that dont stutter on the S2 is because the note has 2.66 times as many pixels at any given time (384000 pixels on s2 screen vs 1024000 pixels screen). the mali gpu doesnt have enough graphical processing power for graphically demanding games on our notes, hence it has difficulty maintaining a steady 60fps in some games (or 57 since that's the refresh rate for our notes).
Souai said:
ICS wont fix it for games that already have gpu acceleration. you can do lots with software, but you cant make up for a GPU that doesnt have enough graphical power.
the reason why the note stutters more on games that dont stutter on the S2 is because the note has 2.66 times as many pixels at any given time (384000 pixels on s2 screen vs 1024000 pixels screen). the mali gpu doesnt have enough graphical processing power for graphically demanding games on our notes, hence it has difficulty maintaining a steady 60fps in some games (or 57 since that's the refresh rate for our notes).
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The question is though if the games are programmed to bring the mail400 to the limit. After all it's still better in almost all other phones, you need to take that into consideration. It's hard to tell also because I don't KNOW how most of the games are supposed to run. F.E. the MW clone from gameloft, does it run at 60 on the S2? It sure doesn't for me on the note, feels pretty ****ty.
Even a game like Pocket League Soccer is slowing down in quality mode...maybe 720p is just too much. Wouldn't come by surprise though.
Im running midnote ICS Rom and all my stuttering and even overheating issues are gone with gaming. And whats even more amazing is that this ICS build is underclocked to 1.2ghz
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ryan562 said:
Im running midnote ICS Rom and all my stuttering and even overheating issues are gone with gaming. And whats even more amazing is that this ICS build is underclocked to 1.2ghz
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Hm. Did you try Asphalt 6 HD, Blood and Glory or Shadowgun? Or Modern Combat? Those games are lacking performance on GB 2..3.6 stock rom...

Nexus 10 gaming lag discussion

Hello folks
Some high res games in the nexus does have frame drips or even lags
Such as Modern Combat 4
Or GTA maxed out
So do u think its a software or hardware problem...
To start off, I personally think that the high res screen that the nexus 10 has has a large impact on its performance
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Its not the high res screen dude. Its the kernel. If its the high res screen the game wouldn't run smoothly for 15 secs then lag for 5 seconds.
beerope said:
Its not the high res screen dude. Its the kernel. If its the high res screen the game wouldn't run smoothly for 15 secs then lag for 5 seconds.
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In some cases it maybe but check the video in youtube of modern combat 4, overall it just stutters
But for GTA ur right maybe its kernel problem
My 2 cents
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Glad someone brought this up. Mine lags in vice city at 80 PC resolution. N.o.v.a. 3 seems to be fine but stutters at times. I tried every benchmarking software out there and they all returned normal scores for the nexus 10. So I really don't know where the problem lies?
Mine starts to lag when the back of the unit gets too warm. Hoping the devs can fix it via kernel or custom rom. But so far though this is the best android tablet for gaming thus far. Gonna have to see though whats going to be released by others at CES next month. I may just return and hopefully they come out with tablets with quadcore exynos and slightly better gpu.
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goodburner said:
Glad someone brought this up. Mine lags in vice city at 80 PC resolution. N.o.v.a. 3 seems to be fine but stutters at times. I tried every benchmarking software out there and they all returned normal scores for the nexus 10. So I really don't know where the problem lies?
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But not all the effects are there in nova :banghead:
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aznmode said:
Mine starts to lag when the back of the unit gets too warm. Hoping the devs can fix it via kernel or custom rom. But so far though this is the best android tablet for gaming thus far. Gonna have to see though whats going to be released by others at CES next month. I may just return and hopefully they come out with tablets with quadcore exynos and slightly better gpu.
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Maybe exynos 5 quad also uses t604 just like exynos 4 dual and quad but maybe higher freq....
Check pdanet too
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edwinpang said:
In some cases it maybe but check the video in youtube of modern combat 4, overall it just stutters
But for GTA ur right maybe its kernel problem
My 2 cents
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The MC4 N10 YouTube videos that I've seen are running the leaked MC4. The leaked version had Galaxy S3 specific settings (Edit: I'm wrong about this). The version that you can currently purchase on the N10 is way smoother than the leak. Unfortunately, I uninstalled the copy of MC4, but I suspect that if you open up the android manifest, you'd see different settings. The leak ran at native resolution (Edit: not positive about this). Based on the limited time I played on the N10, I think the production version on the N10 is running at 1/2 resolution, possibly with lower quality textures. It still looks and plays great, but the movement felt a bit "slushy" compared to the iPad version. I highly reccomend the game. The only reason I uninstalled is because I had 40 hours of multiplayer gameplay on the iOS version and was ranked around 300 with nearly all of the weapons purchased. Unfortunately when I log in on the N10 with the same Gameloft Live account, none of the multiplayer progress is carried over. It seems the Android players are on different servers, though I can confirm that WIFI/local multiplayer games are cross platform.
Edit: I'm completely wrong about the AndroidManifest.xml. Both specify xperia play optimized content and the same OpenGL ES version. I'm not sure where the changes are but, the production version plays pretty smooth. If you look at AndroidManifest files for other games, like Shadowgun Deadzone, you can see specifications for texture compression and things like that, but I don't see anything like that for MC4. Sorry for the mistake.
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Maybe exynos 5 quad also uses t604 just like exynos 4 dual and quad but maybe higher freq....
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The Exynos 5 quad is supposed to first be paired with the Mali-T658 GPU, which is similar to ours but with twice as many cores and a few other better things. It also isnt supposed to be out for another couple quarters.
Games seem pretty smooth to me
gabster21 said:
Games seem pretty smooth to me
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As I said no effects. ...
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EniGmA1987 said:
The Exynos 5 quad is supposed to first be paired with the Mali-T658 GPU, which is similar to ours but with twice as many cores and a few other better things. It also isnt supposed to be out for another couple quarters.
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Hopefully but samsung hasn't made ut official so ya who knows
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[Q] Gaming

Do vice city and gta 3 lag on nexus 4? Are there any high graphical 3d games that lag on nexus 4? Is it good for hardcore gaming at budget?
I honestly just got my N4 have had it for about 3 weeks.
Every game I've bought/downloaded and played has never lagged.
Right now I'm on a Real Racing 3 spree.
The game runs phenomenal.
I also downloaded Dead Trigger 2, modded the .XML file to run at highest graphic setting (for some reason it wouldn't run at full optimization on my phone so I did a little tweaking) and it runs amazing.
I don't expect any lag to come from a quad core 2g of ram phone running pure android.
Hell when I had my GS3 every game ran smoothly.
If you or any user experiences any lag it's either on the user end or in some cases (if you flash a buggy ROM) the ROM will act up.
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ian619420 said:
Do vice city and gta 3 lag on nexus 4? Are there any high graphical 3d games that lag on nexus 4? Is it good for hardcore gaming at budget?
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Well, Hi.. I have played gta 3 on my n4 for about a week and at max graphics, dynamic shadows, resolution clocked at 60%... It runs awesome...
But where density of polygons is more,, it lags a bit....
Moreover, my experience is great!! You will definitely unleash the power of 2 gigs ram equipped with Qualcomm Adreno 320 GPU for max performance..!!
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If I helped, Don't Hesitate to push THANKS!!Cheers!!
Gta vc does lag a bit when driving with everything on max unless I am overclocked and on a optimised rom. One game that does lag a bit though is oil rush 3d but I'm not surprised as it's probably the best looking android game I've ever seen.
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In march 2014 to like summer june 2013 could there possibly be a snapdragon 800 phone or better on contract for 100 dollars or less?
THEBANDIT420 said:
Gta vc does lag a bit when driving with everything on max unless I am overclocked and on a optimised rom. One game that does lag a bit though is oil rush 3d but I'm not surprised as it's probably the best looking android game I've ever seen.
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At max. performance, yes GTA VC will lag only a bit, also it is higher demanding game than gta 3 so yes u can expect some random lags in hiigher polygon frquency areas... But overall, experience will be great!
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ian619420 said:
In march 2014 to like summer june 2013 could there possibly be a snapdragon 800 phone or better on contract for 100 dollars or less?
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Snapdragon Qualcomm 800 is already here in phones like LG G2, Samsung Curve...
About contracts, I dont know..

[Q] What games are people playing on their Tab 4 ?

Hi, I am about to buy Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 8.0 Wifi version aka SM-T330 !
So the 1st thing I am wondering is how is the Gaming performance on this Tablet ?
I don't have much information about the Tablet No information about CPU (just Quad Core 1,2Ghz CPU) nor the GPU.
But It seems to have a Qualcom Snapdragon 400 1,2Ghz x4 with Adreno 305 GPU :fingers-crossed:
The adreno305 is a bit anemic. The cpu isn't bad
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smknutson said:
The adreno305 is a bit anemic. The cpu isn't bad
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I know, but it should be more faster than a Mali-400MP4 (example of Galaxy S3 4G/Note 2) !
Did you test modern games like Asphalt 8, MC4, NFS: MW yet ?
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Nonta72 said:
I know, but it should be more faster than a Mali-400MP4 (example of Galaxy S3 4G/Note 2) !
Did you test modern games like Asphalt 8, MC4, NFS: MW yet ?
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I tested the 8.0 version on Real Racing 3 very little lag, and only at menu times, never in gameplay. I have also tested in some shooter games and more racing games, no lag anywhere else! Very good for a tablet.
Dice with friends runs flawlessly
rov3r said:
I tested the 8.0 version on Real Racing 3 very little lag, and only at menu times, never in gameplay. I have also tested in some shooter games and more racing games, no lag anywhere else! Very good for a tablet.
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FroznArrow said:
Dice with friends runs flawlessly
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Thanks Guys,
Much appreciated :good:
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Thanks Guys,
Much appreciated :good:
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I'm a little late but I just downloaded and installed GTA San Andreas on my Tab4 7.0 and it works very well. Only twice has the game crashed on the main loading screen, but it always loads the game on the second try. GTA SA look amazing on the Tab4 btw. Haven't tried to max out the settings yet, currently running on default settings, but no issues at all while playing the game.
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I love Asphalt 8 on the T530 10"
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osiris010 said:
I'm a little late but I just downloaded and installed GTA San Andreas on my Tab4 7.0 and it works very well. Only twice has the game crashed on the main loading screen, but it always loads the game on the second try. GTA SA look amazing on the Tab4 btw. Haven't tried to max out the settings yet, currently running on default settings, but no issues at all while playing the game.
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Thanks, really helpful. Anyway, I will be buying the Tab 4 8.0
RichPLS said:
I love Asphalt 8 on the T530 10"
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Well, How is the gaming on the 10.1 version ?
Did you test other games ?
8 & 10.1 versions should game identically, they have same specs. That said, if the 7" runs a game well (which it's looking like it's very capable), expect the 8&10.1 to run it better.
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8 & 10.1 versions should game identically, they have same specs. That said, if the 7" runs a game well (which it's looking like it's very capable), expect the 8&10.1 to run it better.
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8 and 10.1 version of Sam's tabs always have good specs compared to 7" ;-;
gangstar vegas?
anyone try gangstar vegas on tab 4 7.0?
Well Dosbox is still somewhere between a 486DX 50 and 486DX 66 according to dhrystone which is about the same as my Galaxy S3 phone but that is at the command prompt so neither the extra cores or the GPU are going to be of any help. I will do more testing later.
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Anil Shovo said:
anyone try gangstar vegas on tab 4 7.0?
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I decided not buy a Tab 4 again
So I cant test anything.....
runs emulators terraria etc not to bad for a tablet at these specs
Ran GTA:SA, Asphalt 8, Colin McRae Rally and MC4 they all ran fine at default settings with lag not noticeable. That's my Tab 4 7.0. MC4 should run since my Kindle with a SGX540 GPU can run smoothly?
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Hi, my Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 T530 is lagging as hell even on low settings when playing Gta SA. Anyone knows why?
mhmtemnacr said:
Hi, my Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 T530 is lagging as hell even on low settings when playing Gta SA. Anyone knows why?
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I suggest you close all apps (backgroung process) before opening th game.
1,5GB + Quad Core CPU + an Adreno 305 GPU should be enough to play GTA: SA with NO issues at all
Regards,
Nonta
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Nonta72 said:
I suggest you close all apps (backgroung process) before opening th game.
1,5GB + Quad Core CPU + an Adreno 305 GPU should be enough to play GTA: SA with NO issues at all
Regards,
Nonta
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Thanks for reply and
Hi, I watched a video on youtube of a GTA SA gameplay on Snapdragon 400 device. It was very lagging on low settings. GTab 4 10.1 also has S400 cpu. So, I figured out it may be a cpu or gpu optimization issue. God damn the day I bought this unknown device with weird processors. But maybe it s a rom issue. SHOUTOUT TO DEVELOPERS please make roms for 10.1 (aosp roms). Touchwiz sucks. Stock samsung rom is for kids.
Regards and please help thanks in advance
mhmtemnacr said:
Thanks for reply and
Hi, I watched a video on youtube of a GTA SA gameplay on Snapdragon 400 device. It was very lagging on low settings. GTab 4 10.1 also has S400 cpu. So, I figured out it may be a cpu or gpu optimization issue. God damn the day I bought this unknown device with weird processors. But maybe it s a rom issue. SHOUTOUT TO DEVELOPERS please make roms for 10.1 (aosp roms). Touchwiz sucks. Stock samsung rom is for kids.
Regards and please help thanks in advance
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Many members/developers would like to develop for many devices, the ONLY limitation is that they don't own the specific device.
Building a software blindly is a VERY HARD job !
Keep checking the Tab 4 forum, I'm sure a Dev will make an amazing ROM soon

[Q] Note 4 SD 805 gaming issues

Hi all,
I just bought a note 4 sd 805 (the UK version). I expected this to be a very powerful phone, but instead I am kind of disappointed .
After playing Asphalt 8 for just 15min, the game starts to lag considerably and suffer from some serious frame rate drop.
The phone itself heats up a bit, but not a lot.
I also noticed that, if I run antutu for say 5 times in a row (with no pause), the score will drop from about 48000 to about 38000.
I still keep my note 3, which is rock solid and did not have the above behaviour (i.e. no heat at all, I can play asphalt 8 for hours with perfect quality and consistent antutu scores of about 43000).
Also my pvs is 13, which seems to be quite a good one (as per this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/info-check-share-cpu-binning-t2950180)
Do you guys think I have a faulty note 4? Should I return it?
Thanks
I dont think that you has a faulty note. Same here with s5 and sd 801 runing gta vc. In about 20 mins of gaming fps drops horrible
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Thanks,
but if the latest generation of phones cannot handle tasks (i.e. games) which the previous generation (note 3 in my case) handled with easy,
doesn't that mean the the phone is not fit for purpose?
In my case I paid £580 and expected to see some improvements. The only true improvement (compare with note 3) is the camera.
The game performance is awful.
The display seems to be brighter (on auto and against direct sun light), but if I actually want to use it like that, it starts heating up and throttle after 15min.
In normal tasks (browsing and light apps) note 3 and note 4 perform on par, with sometimes note 3 being faster.
I also ran the stress test app, and it seems that the note 4 does not stay on 2.7 at all. it starts with 2.4 then quickly goes to 2.2 and 1.9 and after a few minutes it goes down to 1.1 and it stays there. My note 3 on the other hand starts with 2.27 and stays there for few minutes then goes down to 1.9 and 1.7 and then it stays between 1.5 and 1.7.
So, under heavy load snapdragon 805 perform worst than 800. Please note that the SD in my unit has the perfect binning of pvs13. The SD 800 in my note 3 is pvs 2 and it is still way more stable.
I just want to know if you guys have similar experience with the phone?
mitko76 said:
Thanks,
but if the latest generation of phones cannot handle tasks (i.e. games) which the previous generation (note 3 in my case) handled with easy,
doesn't that mean the the phone is not fit for purpose?
In my case I paid £580 and expected to see some improvements. The only true improvement (compare with note 3) is the camera.
The game performance is awful.
The display seems to be brighter (on auto and against direct sun light), but if I actually want to use it like that, it starts heating up and throttle after 15min.
In normal tasks (browsing and light apps) note 3 and note 4 perform on par, with sometimes note 3 being faster.
I also ran the stress test app, and it seems that the note 4 does not stay on 2.7 at all. it starts with 2.4 then quickly goes to 2.2 and 1.9 and after a few minutes it goes down to 1.1 and it stays there. My note 3 on the other hand starts with 2.27 and stays there for few minutes then goes down to 1.9 and 1.7 and then it stays between 1.5 and 1.7.
So, under heavy load snapdragon 805 perform worst than 800. Please note that the SD in my unit has the perfect binning of pvs13. The SD 800 in my note 3 is pvs 2 and it is still way more stable.
I just want to know if you guys have similar experience with the phone?
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You right bro.
You can manage your thermals with custom kernel. Its a know problem, even in the lg g3 forum theres a mod to raise the values of throttle.
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mitko76 said:
Hi all,
I just bought a note 4 sd 805 (the UK version). I expected this to be a very powerful phone, but instead I am kind of disappointed .
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Disable DVFS (just for the laggy games if your phone doesn't freeze and restart) and asphalt will be perfect. You can also run games in 1080 which helps and be grateful as there are kernels supported by your phone's version that you can mess with the thermal throttle and gpu clocks. Just don't let it get too hot
I agree with you, there should be no tweaks needed to run any game, but that's unfortunately not the case, but with some work you can get it to perfect performance! Good luck!
How's the gameplay on the Exynos variant? I never had gaming issues on the Note 2
@arjun90
exynos is way better at gaming
its not laggy in asphalt 8 even after 15 minutes
On sd805 asphalt 8 is just unplayable.. it does not work well from the first minute (I mean as good as my sd800 note 3)
and after about 15min it becomes even worst.
and that is with sd805 binned 13.. My first note 4 (which I returned) was getting hot just from web browsing. I am sure the cpu was with low quality bin.
Samsung should get rid of this low quality cpus.. We pay some serious money and at the end it is just a lottery...
I am also seriously disappointed with the awful deteriorating game performance. For a phone of this price and calibre I was expecting so much more. I hope it is software related and can be fixed, but I don't want to melt my phone!
I have Canadian SM-N910W8 with SD805 and 420 Adreno just tried asphalt 8 its running fast at high setting even with power saving on. Also scored Atutu 47923.
Anyone tried Wolf among us? Game won't start after title screen?
Tiberx said:
I have Canadian SM-N910W8 with SD805 and 420 Adreno just tried asphalt 8 its running fast at high setting even with power saving on. Also scored Atutu 47923.
Anyone tried Wolf among us? Game won't start after title screen?
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well I don't know what to say mate I have the same cpu and gpu, Antutu for me is even above 48000 regularly about 48700
still asphalt 8 is just pretty much unplayable.. Some other games however are ok. Hope it is a software issue and sammy/app developer(gameloft) fix it.
I am non rooted and fully stock..
Have you try to greenify everything then run the game? I think it probably software.
I'm rooted but using my original stock image as base with extras - fixed everything working. Took me a while but good trends here before had lots of issues.
Yes i agree with that games like asphalt should play smooth without installing custom rom.. It is really awful.. But now after flashing kernel and flashed rom it runs smoooottthh!..
it is the first android phone I am reluctant to root (at least for now). Lollipop is coming very soon and I prefer to see what it will bring to my note.
If if works for you guys (after rooting and possibly applying custom kernel and some modifications) it is sammy fault and not the game developer. It is really frustrating. Hope sammy fix this mess soon.
Yet again blaming the chip on what is clearly a not optimized game for the 805. Software is the problem. Ya know if the game isn't optimized for that chip it will run like ****, if they update for this phone and it still runs ****ty than they did a bad job.
Hi ive running the 1st version of asphalt 8 on my phone for about 20 min without any lags.Might be the games are not optimised yet
Edit:Just Noticed that the graphic settings to medium & high are not available which is very strange
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RISHI RAJ said:
Hi ive running the 1st version of asphalt 8 on my phone for about 20 min without any lags.Might be the games are not optimised yet
Edit:Just Noticed that the graphic settings to medium & high are not available which is very strange
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I have noticed that any game with graphic options become unplayable after setting anything higher them low. ie. GTA SA.
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I have noticed that any game with graphic options become unplayable after setting anything higher them low. ie. GTA SA.
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True,ive also set resolution to 70 with everything else to minimum or off in GTA SA.My Note 3 is way better gaming wise
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RISHI RAJ said:
Hi ive running the 1st version of asphalt 8 on my phone for about 20 min without any lags.Might be the games are not optimised yet
Edit:Just Noticed that the graphic settings to medium & high are not available which is very strange
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bizarre.. for me the medium & high settings are available.. it just the game itself kind of unplayable.
the fact that some users report that the issue is fixable with root and custom kernel gives some hope.

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