[Q] Audio Tunneling on Nexus 4 - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was wondering for those who have installed Kit Kat on their N4, have you been able to enable the new Audio Tunneling feature?
If its not an option, then have you noticed any increases in playback time for music?
I ask because both the N4 and the N5 both share similar Hexagon DSPs granted the N5 will have an updated version of the DSP but the feature should still work.
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Elchemist said:
I ask because both the N4 and the N5 both share similar Hexagon DSPs granted the N5 will have an updated version of the DSP but the feature should still work.
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I checked the DSP that is in the APQ8064 (Nexus 4 SoC), and the Hexagon DSP is from the same series. The only difference between the Hexagon QDSP6V4 in the Nexus 4 and the Hexagon QDSP6V5A in the Nexus 5, is that the V5 model is slightly faster in terms of clock speed, but nothing that should affect its ability to function correctly.
http://system-on-a-chip.findthedata.org/l/288/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-APQ8064

Well then let's hope when the official 4.4 rom drops for the n4 with all its binaries it will have audio tunnelling. I listen to lots of music and media server sometimes uses up to 20 % of my battery, to decrease that would be great.
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Agreed I saw the same thing so that is why I am asking.
During the Kit Kat launch Google mentioned that its only a nexus 5 feature and that they are working with other DSP OEMs to get it working, but since its the its pretty much the same DSP I don't see why it won't work on the nexus 4 unless I'm missing something.
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I checked the DSP that is in the APQ8064 (Nexus 4 SoC), and the Hexagon DSP is from the same series. The only difference between the Hexagon QDSP6V4 in the Nexus 4 and the Hexagon QDSP6V5A in the Nexus 5, is that the V5 model is slightly faster in terms of clock speed, but nothing that should affect its ability to function correctly.
http://system-on-a-chip.findthedata.org/l/288/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-APQ8064
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What interests me is why it wasn't used before? This is what DSP is there for. Did they just realize it? Nevertheless, Android is making all the right steps forward PROVIDED it's not gonna stay exclusive to Nexus 5. I can accept superficial things like Google Now integration being exclusive, but once they start concealing massive under the hood improvements, this I will not accept.

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What interests me is why it wasn't used before? This is what DSP is there for. Did they just realize it? Nevertheless, Android is making all the right steps forward PROVIDED it's not gonna stay exclusive to Nexus 5. I can accept superficial things like Google Now integration being exclusive, but once they start concealing massive under the hood improvements, this I will not accept.
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You could check this slide, on page 2.
http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~danav/pubs/qcom/hexagon_hotchips2013.pdf
I think mainly about the internal connection fabric: if aDSP is bus master which can init an access to other peripherals; and if it can be configured / can be given right to access such peripheral. some of it are hardware design issue, some are software.
Due to Qualcomm do not release docs, so we can only guess.

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Nexus S VS SGS for CM7/MIUI

If anyone has experience with both devices on MIUI and/or CM7 could you share the difference between them? Im weighing whether Nexus S is a worthy upgrade so any input would be appreciated
Btw im not considering SGS2 because of no voodoo sound
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Good thread, I was actually wondering the same thing (not after upgrading).
I know that for Vodafone AU the Galaxy is maybe a better device. The Nexus S here does not have the Amoled screen and also does not have the external SD (which I don't use myself).
I had a quick go at the stock 2.3.4 on a Nexus S and it is definately laggy compared to my CM7 with launcherpro. I cannot say if it is the combination as I would like to see CM7 with LP on the nexus S.
I find Miui laggy on the Galaxy when it comes to the menus in the settings. I am not sure if it is better on the Nexus S as they have access to full sources AFAIK.
K.
If external SD is important then its pretty easy which one you should get.
With Nexus S you will get latest updates from Google (which again might not be necessary if you are staying with CM7).
SGS just got merged in mainline for CM7 so now we get nightlies everyday. From my personal experience, there is 0! ZERO! lag with CM7 and only a few quirky bugs.
Also wouldn't the SGS be much cheaper than the Nexus S? Especially for the AMOLED screen version of the Nexus?
Therefore I suggest SGS imo.
If you use CM7 ... SGS is probably the best choice.
I agree with the consensus....if you are planning on using CM7 or MIUI then that nullifies the advantages the Nexus S has as a "flagship" (early updates from google, etc).
In terms of sheer hardware then, the AMOLED and the external SD make the Galaxy a clear winner over the Nexus S.
Nexus S camera sucks. I moved to Nexus S but gladly back to Galaxy S. No 720p recording, no SAMOLED, no gorilla glass, no SD slot, no radio, poor speakers, no TV out - Nexus S is actually a downgrade if you ask me.
I love Galaxy S. I just wish it had a body of Omnia 7 and a dual LED flash.
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I agree with the consensus....if you are planning on using CM7 or MIUI then that nullifies the advantages the Nexus S has as a "flagship" (early updates from google, etc).
In terms of sheer hardware then, the AMOLED and the external SD make the Galaxy a clear winner over the Nexus S.
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No GorillaGlass in Nexus S is very strong "NO" for buying the device.
Maybe a few bonuses in Nexus, but really? You wanna have micro (and not only) scratches after month of using the phone? I know what happened with my Xperia after three months of daily using... :/
All the replies are very interesting.
Not many people seems to say but despite not using samsung roms recently i think having them as options are a bonus as well.
I totally agree with the omnia 7 build quality. If there was one thing that i didnt fancy about my SGS it would be the extreme lightness and build quality. I mean i prefer light to heavy but SGS feels a tad too light
For noobs like me download mode is life saver lol
EDIT does anyone know the reason to lag in MIUI settings?
Btw there are few combination of kernel rom and radio which almost removes the lag
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All the replies are very interesting.
Not many people seems to say but despite not using samsung roms recently i think having them as options are a bonus as well.
I totally agree with the omnia 7 build quality. If there was one thing that i didnt fancy about my SGS it would be the extreme lightness and build quality. I mean i prefer light to heavy but SGS feels a tad too light
For noobs like me download mode is life saver lol
EDIT does anyone know the reason to lag in MIUI settings?
Btw there are few combination of kernel rom and radio which almost removes the lag
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I am going to speculate without even knowing why but my theory is that Miui uses non standard menu options. Also on a Miui Rom the actual values of the different options are on the main screen (not sure if that makes sens).
If you use an application like GPS test for example, when you go to the menu, you actually can see what the values are set to before you even click on the different options. It is nice to see this but Miui problem in my opinion is that it lags in these settings menus and maybe that's the reason .
Your title did ask about (CM7/Miui) so nearly all the extras don't work anyway (video calling, FM radio...etc). I am sure they will work at some stage as I saw codeworkx started doing some changes for the radio.
https://github.com/teamhacksung/and...mmit/f2d5a4d164a9dec59ce486e77c451c81439526f1
https://github.com/teamhacksung/and...mmit/bd097d8b7f12634192edc1e953ed057a25fcbc86
I did not know the handset did not have the Gorilla glass either so in my opinion apart the actual flash everything else is a downgrade.
K.

Split screen multitasking - how?

Hi,
How to get Nexus 10 to have split screen multitasking like Note2?
Is it possible at all?
Also, can you run apps in windowed mode in Android?
At the moment, I can have browser in a window and video player in a window (super video, but no sound for some reason...), and it would be good if i could have more options like this.
Thanks
That that is a touch-wiz thing. If you want that you might as well get the galaxy note 10.1
Any chance this could be coded into custom roms though?
There's a floating browser app that works quite well. Try searching for that.
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Try stick it . a bit buggy but works well.
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It's doable if not very elegant.
LilyPad Chat
BS player
Floating browser
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I've tried out a couple floating video apps, and I like Popcorn player the most. Also Floating Browser Flux is an okay free browser.
Multi window support is possible. I suppose it could be built into cyanogenmod. But I bet it would most likely come as a flashable zip, not a built-in feature. It would probably be really difficult to code though. It's not really what most XDA members would be able to do. Maybe we could get the Paranoid Android devs to work on it? They seem like the most qualified to me.
The Nexus 10 is a powerful device. One of the major downfalls with Android is the lack of mulit-window support. The Nexus 10 could become a super functional powerhouse for productivity if we could just get it to display more than one screen at a time.
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Multi window support is possible. I suppose it could be built into cyanogenmod. But I bet it would most likely come as a flashable zip, not a built-in feature. It would probably be really difficult to code though. It's not really what most XDA members would be able to do. Maybe we could get the Paranoid Android devs to work on it? They seem like the most qualified to me.
The Nexus 10 is a powerful device. One of the major downfalls with Android is the lack of mulit-window support. The Nexus 10 could become a super functional powerhouse for productivity if we could just get it to display more than one screen at a time.
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CM actually tried to implement something very similar Multiwindow in CM9 (look up Cornerstone). Google went Maffia on them and dropped hints that they would blacklist CM roms from accessing the market if they went through with it since there's potential for apps to not work right. They were worried that any issues that arose from such a setup would be blamed on the devs of the apps.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ne-and-bring-true-tablet-multitasking-to-cm9/
Its doable, but its also understandable why devs dont want to touch it anymore. Before that happened, you'd see plenty of unofficial CM builds with cornerstone integrated.
Actually, there's a brand that is developing an app... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOqBAfMwCAc

Nexus 4: the most lagfree android device?

Hi all, the nexus 4 is the devices that I want to buy, but I wanted to ask you something: is it the most lagfree device avaible in the market? How is it after installing many apps? I've read in many reviews that's the smoothest android device, but I would like some confirmations
PS: I have a galaxy ace and I know that the nexus 4 will definitely be a super-upgrade
I've got about 100 or so installed apps and it works just fine.
Edit: just checked. I have 129 apps.
From a Nexus 4 bathing in Jelly Beans
Its definitely one of the fastest out there if not the fastest. The pure Google experience that you get with the phone is awesome. If you like to flash your phone there's a huge variety of roms that can be personalized to the tiniest details, and with the right combination of a rom and a decent kernel you will forget what lag is.
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Oh, I know what flashing is and I think I will mess around with that!
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Oh, I know what flashing is and I think I will mess around with that!
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After you flash for the first time, you will become an addict, beware
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With a nexus 4 you won't "need" to flash anything, you can do it if you want some extra customizations, but even the stock rom is lag free. Install apex or nova launcher and boost animation/window speed, and you'll get an even snappier experience.
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I played with HTC One which is claimed to be the fastest, smoothest, and powerful Android phone. Yes it is! But sometimes you will have the stutter feeling when opening apps, just sometimes though, and it is somewhat unpredictable. its fast but not quite like a Nexus. you have to experience it to know what i mean. plus most apps are developed based on a Nexus, so yeah you'll have the best experience.
I have about 113 apps and still no lag. stock everything until last week i flashed franco kernel. planning to jump onto cyanogenmod tomorrow.
With all the things you say, you make me desire more and more the nexus!
I'm on stock, unlocked and rooted with 700hrs of up-time so far, no crashes other than a couple of 3rd party apps and no lag whatsoever =)
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just grab this amazing phone..
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Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
bentez2003 said:
Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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The problem there is the app itself
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hey man, I came from cooper too and now I have an N4. It's a really good phone, specially when you flash franco's kernel and CM10.1 nightlys (yeah, you don't have anymore to wait updates from Maclaw, OldDroid or biel ). Battery life is good, and with franco kernel it's even better.
All the UI and system apps are really smooth, but when using some apps it's a pain to scrool (apps's fault). Videos and music also play without interruptions. Buy it, you will not regret.
Well I also have a note 10.1 and I'm not sure I'm noticing the lag you're talking about in the facebook app...
I've had every galaxy s series phone available from the vibrant to the sII then the s3 tried the s4....and absolutely nothing comes close to the Nexus experience period.
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Compared next to the s4 this phone actually opens and closes apps faster by a split second or so, but the dual core s3 is faster than the s4 in my opinion so....
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bentez2003 said:
Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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You picked the worst apps =p
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bentez2003 said:
Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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I don't think what you are describing is lag caused by the Nexus 4...
It's lag caused by your data speed.
With your facebook example, scolling sometimes stuters as it downloads the actual data & information from facebook itself.
The facebook app tries to place new information at the top & then it tens to want to automatically jump to the top.
If you were connected to LTE or even a fast WiFi connection that problem would be less noticable.
But as said earlier... it's just bad coding from facebook.
Come on man, the Nexus is amazing...
It has the same amount of RAM as my work computer, & lags less.
Personally I find the Nexus 4 to be a very fast device, I wont say lag free as I can certainly see some lag but is it the fastest device out? You bet, ive played around with a very new note 2 and an s4, the N4 seems to be much faster than the Note2 and marginally faster than the s4 just pressing the home button on those two devices show about .5 seconds slower than my n4 in action.
Battery life? Hmm struggle with mine if I am honest but I get a day now, it seems I get way less than everyone else and I am not sure why but I feel i got unlucky with my device and I pray to god I have a faulty power button or something so I can RMA within the warranty to hope for a new device haha.
Its the best value phone and has pretty much the same specs as the top phones, whats not to like? And its a Nexus .
Maybe I should add that the device is also faster than the iphones/ipads I have used which shocked me as people always praised their performance... lol, the N4 is simply held back by some poorly coded applications but what can you do? Hope Developers get better
rayiskon said:
...but even the stock rom is lag free.
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Strange; I install the factory ROM onto my N4 and N10, and was quickly reminded as to what lag truly was... it was not pleasing :/

nexus 4 battery life after 4.3 update ?

so let's get to the bottom of the nexus battery life issue. How long is your nexus 4 battery life after 4.3 updated get or last , whether it set to default setting of the device itself or with a minimum setting such a display brightness level, silent profile, etc ?
and do you know how long you need to get your phone fully charged from empty using original n4 charger ? any trick or possible way to charge the phone itself faster ?
I'm just wondering and should I get nexus 4 or moto x ? but F***, I hate when that beautiful phone has been locked by carrier and has a bloatware since I'm a heavy multitask user and most of the time spend his time with browser and apps and whatsapp messenger .
sorry for my bad word but really hoping your honest review for the n4 battery life after 4.3 .
did you get 8 hours if you keep playing with it and also keep turn on and turn off your phone every 10-15 minutes while you're walking or hang out with your friends ?
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so let's get to the bottom of the nexus battery life issue. How long is your nexus 4 battery life after 4.3 updated get or last , whether it set to default setting of the device itself or with a minimum setting such a display brightness level, silent profile, etc ?
and do you know how long you need to get your phone fully charged from empty using original n4 charger ? any trick or possible way to charge the phone itself faster ?
I'm just wondering and should I get nexus 4 or moto x ? but F***, I hate when that beautiful phone has been locked by carrier and has a bloatware since I'm a heavy multitask user and most of the time spend his time with browser and apps and whatsapp messenger .
sorry for my bad word but really hoping your honest review for the n4 battery life after 4.3 .
did you get 8 hours if you keep playing with it and also keep turn on and turn off your phone every 10-15 minutes while you're walking or hang out with your friends ?
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Some custom kernels like for instance Franco Kernel support fast charging if you are rooted. If i we`re you and you can i would wait for the Nexus 5 that will come out in a few months. The N4 is very cheap atm and batterylife isn`t bad at all. Also depends on user usage and installed apps/widgets and syncing.
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Some custom kernels like for instance Franco Kernel support fast charging if you are rooted. If i we`re you and you can i would wait for the Nexus 5 that will come out in a few months. The N4 is very cheap atm and batterylife isn`t bad at all. Also depends on user usage and installed apps/widgets and syncing.
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thx Gee for the input, appreciate that, and is that the reason why google cut off nexus 4 price ? I can wait but in my head now nexus 4 or N5 or moto x ? but moto x sucks I hate because it's bundled and belong to carrier. that's really really sucks don't you think,
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thx Gee for the input, appreciate that, and is that the reason why google cut off nexus 4 price ? I can wait but in my head now nexus 4 or N5 or moto x ? but moto x sucks I hate because it's bundled and belong to carrier. that's really really sucks don't you think,
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The Nexus 4 is a great phone, you will not regret buying it. Sold my Galaxy S4 because of the lags and stuttering software. Also the N4 will get KLP Android 5.0 soon also after the release of the Nexus 5.
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Some custom kernels like for instance Franco Kernel support fast charging if you are rooted. If i we`re you and you can i would wait for the Nexus 5 that will come out in a few months. The N4 is very cheap atm and batterylife isn`t bad at all. Also depends on user usage and installed apps/widgets and syncing.
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gee2012 said:
The Nexus 4 is a great phone, you will not regret buying it. Sold my Galaxy S4 because of the lags and stuttering software. Also the N4 will get KLP Android 5.0 soon also after the release of the Nexus 5.
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whatttt ? you sold your s4 ? how come? I mean and I thought it's great phone, and the time when you feel lagging is the phone is rooted or factory default ?
thank you for your honest opinion cause I know nexus 4 is not great like high end phone such as like htc one but the reason is I wanna get n4 because it has no bloatware and it's the pure android and I'm so happy the carrier didn't put any their apps into that phone.
anyway, nexus 5 will be using LG again? my friend told me will be similar like LG G2
You might start laughing but I just ordered a Nexus 4 to get a feel. If I like it, it might replace my HTC One and when the 5 comes out, it might replace my Note 2.
I'm a plain vanilla user (plain Android no rooting or nothing) and slowly am getting sick of the Wifi, lag and other problems all other phones have.
I got this idea since I switched to the Nexus 10 and noticed that there's maybe less bells and whistles but the thing works very well.
Let's see...
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whatttt ? you sold your s4 ? how come? I mean and I thought it's great phone, and the time when you feel lagging is the phone is rooted or factory default ?
thank you for your honest opinion cause I know nexus 4 is not great like high end phone such as like htc one but the reason is I wanna get n4 because it has no bloatware and it's the pure android and I'm so happy the carrier didn't put any their apps into that phone.
anyway, nexus 5 will be using LG again? my friend told me will be similar like LG G2
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You say nexus 4 is not high end? Dafuq
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You say nexus 4 is not high end? Dafuq
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aww, sorry about that, but I'm curious , how nexus 5 will be look like ? and bigger screen ?
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You say nexus 4 is not high end? Dafuq
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You might start laughing but I just ordered a Nexus 4 to get a feel. If I like it, it might replace my HTC One and when the 5 comes out, it might replace my Note 2.
I'm a plain vanilla user (plain Android no rooting or nothing) and slowly am getting sick of the Wifi, lag and other problems all other phones have.
I got this idea since I switched to the Nexus 10 and noticed that there's maybe less bells and whistles but the thing works very well.
Let's see...
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you replace your htc one with nexus 4 ? how come ? is your htc one is google play edition ?
If you think about it the Nexus 4 has the same CPU settings as the S4 and HTC One the only category that it loses in is screen resolution.
Of course the other two phones have more better technology but when it comes to software wise the Nexus 4 will be right up there with them
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you replace your htc one with nexus 4 ? how come ? is your htc one is google play edition ?
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I seriously think about it. It's not a Google Edition and I'm fed up with all the little things that just don't work. I have the impression that all these overlays (touchwiz and whatever they're called) only cause malfunctioning. My HTC is my business phone so changing it for the Nexus, I'll quickly know what pure android is worth.
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talking about pure android that coming from nexus , do we have to clean cache or apps cache from the setting itself every once a week ? such a browser cache , and any other apps cache that we can found from settings-apps-(click random apps icon)- clean cache , ?
I'm confuse and I'm sorry to bring this up such an iPhone we don't have to worry about this cache thing or cache that coming from apps and there's no feature in iPhone like clean cache apps that we need to worry about . (and once again sorry comparing this with apple stuff )
so back to the problem since I'm only talking about google product should we be worry about apps cache ? maybe that's also the reason why the phone can be lagging because too many cache from the apps itself that we didn't notice or care enough to clean it up every once a week ? or by the system default is there any feature that the system will clean the cache that coming from 3rd party apps, background apps (all apps that running in the background). Cause I got paranoid and confuse what should I do , that's why I also install advanced task killer and always set them to high priority and every 30 minutes kill all apps to make sure this phone will always have a room for RAM.
but please correct me if I'm wrong , thank you
Using PA 3.99 and faux enhanced stock kernel I still have ~80% battery left after over 8 hours of use (using the phone every 10-15 mins or so). I always use automatic brightness set to medium. Not too sure what "battery life issue" you are trying to get to the bottom of.
As for the task killers/ cache cleaners, there's really no point. All you are really doing is making your phone work harder to do nothing at all. You should be thinking of unused RAM as wasted RAM. If your phone needs more RAM to run something it will free some up as needed. The task killers are really just using more RAM and battery.
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Using PA 3.99 and faux enhanced stock kernel I still have ~80% battery left after over 8 hours of use (using the phone every 10-15 mins or so). I always use automatic brightness set to medium. Not too sure what "battery life issue" you are trying to get to the bottom of.
As for the task killers/ cache cleaners, there's really no point. All you are really doing is making your phone work harder to do nothing at all. You should be thinking of unused RAM as wasted RAM. If your phone needs more RAM to run something it will free some up as needed. The task killers are really just using more RAM and battery.
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thank you for enlighten me .
cameron3200 said:
Using PA 3.99 and faux enhanced stock kernel I still have ~80% battery left after over 8 hours of use (using the phone every 10-15 mins or so). I always use automatic brightness set to medium. Not too sure what "battery life issue" you are trying to get to the bottom of.
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sorry, but what do you mean by PA 3.99 ? and faux ? is it hard to change the kernel for a beginner or a person didn't know how to rooted or modified any kernel ? and also modified kernel or changing the kernel, is that gonna affected to the device to become unstable ? and I believe changing the kernel is coming from unofficial google, am I right ?
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[DISCUSSION] 5.1 Lollipop for Titan [CONFIRMED]

5.1 confirmed
5.1 even more confirmed lol
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This is the discussion thread for 5.1 Lollipop.
My Opinion:
~ I just hope 5.1 is smooth and the ram issues are gone.
Can we build a list of current known info regarding 5.1; changes, fixes, issues and etc...
Current Known Info:
~ Only for Android One devices currently.
~ Post #22 with screenshots
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It will be release in march ( as an htc ceo said )
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It will be release in march ( as an htc ceo said )
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Well i hope it will be released early in march... or at least for the source code to go up early in march so that we can hop onto CM12.1
As far as I am seeing by recent videos of 5.1 on Android One mediatek devices ,, its running more smoother even with that native screen recoding .Although new features are already on the web ,, exciting to see what/how Moto cook it for us
@Pizza_Dox I want moto display to
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which are the profits by using 3.10 instead of 3.4?
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This is the discussion thread for 5.1 Lollipop.
My Opinion:
~ I just hope 5.1 is smooth and the ram issues are gone.
Can we build a list of current known info regarding 5.1; changes, fixes, issues and etc...
Current Known Info:
~ Only for Android One devices currently.
~ Release Date: March
~ Screenshots
~ 3.10 Linux Kernel
~ The horrible silent mode is still there...
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-Little tweaks: sim dialer colors, silent mode until next alarm, direct unlock sliding qs at lockscreen...
-Direct wifi and bluetooth panels on qs
sky0165 said:
which are the profits by using 3.10 instead of 3.4?
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A lot of stability improvements and a lot of i/o request stuff, basically smoother android and better battery life
Potato. said:
@Pizza_Dox I want moto display to [emoji14]
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Ikr I like that feature, very useful for when my phones on the desk / in pocket.
[email protected] said:
As far as I am seeing by recent videos of 5.1 on Android One mediatek devices ,, its running more smoother even with that native screen recoding .Although new features are already on the web ,, exciting to see what/how Moto cook it for us
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I know, its shocking actually, I dunno what kind of improvements they made cause its actually very smooth in the animations and there is no ui stuttering or lag like there is in all these 5.0.2 ROMs, i can't wait
laureano97 said:
-Little tweaks: sim dialer colors, silent mode until next alarm, direct unlock sliding qs at lockscreen...
-Direct wifi and bluetooth panels on qs
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Oh sweet, yes I like the silent until next alarm feature, very useful for me
Sent from my Moto G 2014
All i want is Camera API 2 support (3.0 + is already in development it seems!! I wouldn't feel if the camera doesn't support but its the same sensor as Nexus 5 (As some reviews say) and a software feature i wish Motorola includes in it or atleast some one from xda finds a way to enable it!!
raju sesharaj said:
All i want is Camera API 2 support (3.0 + is already in development it seems!! I wouldn't feel if the camera doesn't support but its the same sensor as Nexus 5 (As some reviews say) and a software feature i wish Motorola includes in it or atleast some one from xda finds a way to enable it!!
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Cool, well im not a big camera guy, quick snap here and there, otherwise i like the camera, what benefits does the new camera api bring in?
I just hope for a memory fix and the ui being smoothed out and less laggy...
Manual Controls!! I do like the simplicity of the Motorola Camera app but the Camera Sensor being the same as Nexus 5 would definitely improve with camera api 2.0 just check out some shots of N5 using camera api 2, especially low light. The camera of Moto G (2014) is amazing for its price except the software which limits it to great extent. Just wish Nokia makes an Camera App similar to its Windows Phone app with Camera api 2.0 support. Nokia Lumia 520 surprises me with its amazing camera performance while no phone is near in the same price range in android universe!!
Yes, it's true about our Moto G ship the same Nexus 5 camera sensor. The only difference is that Nexus 5 has OIS.
http://www.techspot.com/review/888-motorola-moto-g-2014/page3.html
The sensor + SoC support 1080p video recording, but it seems moto was lazy to develop the camera.
Can't we just borrow nexus 5 drivers????
Does anybody know if the Moto G 2nd gen will get an update to 5.1?
How likely do you think it is? I'm guessing the jump from 4.4 to 5.0 was not easy because drivers etc, but from 5.0 to 5.1 of your Motorola you don't have to worry about hardware problems so it should be a matter of weeks once 5.1 is official...?
What do you think. Quick OTA fix?
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Does anybody know if the Moto G 2nd gen will get an update to 5.1?
How likely do you think it is? I'm guessing the jump from 4.4 to 5.0 was not easy because drivers etc, but from 5.0 to 5.1 of your Motorola you don't have to worry about hardware problems so it should be a matter of weeks once 5.1 is official...?
What do you think. Quick OTA fix?
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I think it'll take them until beginning of May at most to release it.
On the 23rd of March android 5.1 will come to our device.
patvdzwan said:
On the 23rd of March android 5.1 will come to our device.
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source?
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Wolfcity said:
source?
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I read in some articles that it will come at the end of March, and Shawn5162 saying he has a friend at Motorola who said that it will come the 23rd, so that can be right.
sky0165 said:
Yes, it's true about our Moto G ship the same Nexus 5 camera sensor. The only difference is that Nexus 5 has OIS.
http://www.techspot.com/review/888-motorola-moto-g-2014/page3.html
The sensor + SoC support 1080p video recording, but it seems moto was lazy to develop the camera.
Can't we just borrow nexus 5 drivers????
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This is exactly what i thought. I had this doubt for a long time and i thought it'd be stupid to ask. Now that i know the sensors are same, library edits and media codec edits should bring 1080p recording to our phone. Any interested devs out there?
There must be some issues otherwise any dev could've already made it! I still have some hope that someone will find a way to enable camera api 2.0+ support so we could enjoy snapping with our Moto more! and Snapdragon 400 Soc does supports 1080p encoding and decoding and camera is capable of 1080p recording so it is possible with adequate dev support and kernel sources we may get!!
Speaking of ram management, I just read in a nexus 5 thread that it looks like it's been fixed and the device is working like a charm.
Surely, it's the nexus 5 we're talking about and it hasn't been a full day yet, but someone says the apps are opening/switching much faster and that launcher redraws have been non existent as of now.
Wonder how titan will deal with that. After all, the android one devices haven't really got impressive specs but they still seem to deliver quite well, right?

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