True battery capacity: ~560mAh (Wrong spec in XDA forum Glass specs header) - Glass General

Hi guys,
The XDA google-glass SPEC list, the battery capacity is listed as 2100mAh. This is wrong.
Pictures from teardowns show 2.1Wh printed on the battery (see also the wikipedia article).
2.1Wh means roughly 2.1Wh/3.7V=~560mAh.
This is actually logical: the battery is really much smaller than the one in the nexus 4, which is 2100mAh.
We may want to correct this.
Cheers,
Dan

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Hello
Where can i buy a high capacity battery for tytn ?
Thnks a Lot
Luis
I believe the TyTN accepts the same battery as the Apache (although I haven't personally tried one in my TyTN yet). Looking at the pics and stock capacity, the batteries appear to be identical.
That being said, there's a 1500 mah battery (11% more power) available that's the same size as the stock battery. Check here for this. There is a nice large picture of the battery on the page too so you can see for yourself what I mean.
If you decide to take a chance and order one, let us know how it works!

Are these really genuine TyTN II batteries?

I'm wanting to get a replacement battery but I don't want to buy a dud. I've noticed a couple of companies selling genuine/orignal batteries and to be fair they do look EXACTLY like the samsunt branded battery that came with my TyTN II. However, on closer inspection, in the top left corner of the pictures the battery doesn't say Samsung. Can't really make out what the brand is.
Anyway, my question is, did anyone get a battery supplied with their TyTN II that was not Samsund branded and looked like the batteries in the following listing?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....m=170230086920&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007
Considering it is from a power seller and the price isn't to low, i would go for it.
That's the exact battery in mine. Mine doesn't say Samsung. It says Dynapak on the top. idk that one deff. seems legit.
Cheers guys. You've been a great help
well you better get batteries from an authorized agent - they could cost you your device. the batteries you shown looks OK but you need to be definite so go to agent and ask for them, you may pay slightly more but you could also save yourself a headache
Mine is Samsung, I never heard of dynapack. I wouldent buy it .
if you look at the top left corner, you will see dynapak. its legit, never gave me problems great battery life too.
Dynapak here as well.
Jonathan1683 said:
Mine is Samsung, I never heard of dynapack. I wouldent buy it .
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My original battery is a DynaPack. SOmewhere on here is a thread where people posted the models of their original batteries. There might have been 3 or more variations.
Both are oem. Either Samsung or Dynapack will be fine. My original battery was Dynapack. The replacement is Samsung. I had my battery replaced because it was less than a year old and losing capacity. The ATT warranty will replace it for free.
Dynapack here also in my Tilt. Model KAIS160, 1350mAh.
Hi
I would like to buy another battery, but I don't know what parameters I have to figures out in the search. Can someone tell me what characteristic the new battery must have? Do you think that buy a battery of more capacity [like 1600 mAh] could be better? I use a lot the wi-fi and it consume a lot of power...
I saw battery of 1600 mAh costing less than 1350 ones.... Are they sh*t?
Thanks
extended battery with door
You can get non-oem standard 1000+mAh for 23 bucks at
http://www.wirester.com/at-t-8925-htc-kaiser-tytn-ii-li-ion-battery.html
You can also get non-oem extended 2400mAh with door for 35 bucks at wirester as well
http://www.wirester.com/att-tilt-8925-htc-tytn-ii-kaiser-li-ion-extended-battery-with-door.html
I got the extended one. haven't used it though.
Thanks for the reply.
If it is possible I will buy a battery without extend the back-door because if the PDA become thicker I will have some problem to fit in the car holder...
But my question is related to the characteristic. In the Italian ebay I saw a lot of 1350 mAh battery that cost from 6 to 40 € and I don't understand the reason...
I don't know, also, if the battery with more than 1350 mAh are useful, because on of my friends had bought a xlarge battery for his PSP and the time of using is reduced compare to the original...
I'm confused... Can you help me? If someone have bought non original battery can tell me the characteristic and his opinion compare to the original one?
Thanks
My first Tilt had a Samsung in it. The rear speaker failed after a month, so i got an entire boxed replacement at the store and it had a Dynapack in it. Havent had a single complaint with the 2nd unit i got with the Dynapack battery. Heck, i think even the battery life is better with the Dynapack than the Samsung one I had first.
Thanks for your advice. I've found some Dynapack in ebay.it and I think I will buy this.
If I will have more info about I will tell you!
Thanks Bye
whats the biggest standard size battery for the kaiser. i really dont want to have a bulky battery on mine cause i usually have my phone in my pocket.
nymkin said:
whats the biggest standard size battery for the kaiser. i really dont want to have a bulky battery on mine cause i usually have my phone in my pocket.
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The battery of the highest mAh that remain of the same size of the original that I found is 1600 mAh...
Bye
there are only a few differences i can see with it vs mine... with that one, it has a DC##etc under the bar code, i have a S/N: ###etc.
The one i had in mine was a Samsung, model KAIS160, rating 3.7VDC, 1350 mAh, 4.2BDC
Of course, i did buy a used device, but i believe it was the OEM battery...
Jeremie
jlariviere said:
The one i had in mine was a Samsung, model KAIS160, rating 3.7VDC, 1350 mAh, 4.2BDC
Of course, i did buy a used device, but i believe it was the OEM battery...
Jeremie
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Yes, this type of battery, with this writing on it, is the original one!
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Li-po or Li-on

I thought our nexus 4's came with Li-po battery. By pressing *#*#4636#*#* then going to battery information I found this.
Pic
as you can see on the battery technology it says its a li-on. My question is does any of yours say's this aswell? or is it just me
Thanks in advance
Mine says li-ion as well, cpu-z also says li-ion.
Sent from my Nexus 4
Do you have any ideas why that is? I find that really confusing xD
fluffboy said:
Do you have any ideas why that is? I find that really confusing xD
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I think that this is code mistake, because programs take that info from device files where it's stored (idk how program can watch it in other way). Our battery is Li-PO, because that said in specs. Google can't lie to users.
Li-ion polymer
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
fluffboy said:
I thought our nexus 4's came with Li-po battery. By pressing *#*#4636#*#* then going to battery information I found this.
Pic
as you can see on the battery technology it says its a li-on. My question is does any of yours say's this aswell? or is it just me
Thanks in advance
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It's written on the battery that it's Li-ion. Boom .
fluffboy said:
I thought our nexus 4's came with Li-po battery. By pressing *#*#4636#*#* then going to battery information I found this.
Pic
as you can see on the battery technology it says its a li-on. My question is does any of yours say's this aswell? or is it just me
Thanks in advance
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Nexus 4 utilizes li-ion polodium. It's mean that li-po battery
More information Li-ion vs Li-Po
http://support.radioshack.com/support_tutorials/batteries/bt-liion-main.htm

Is ZTE lying about Axon's 7 battery capacity?

I have installed many apps to find out the capacity of the battery all say 3100mAh. I installed and updated several versions of the O.S. from Marshmallow to Nougat thinking that maybe the OS were not showing the accurate battery size. But nothing...
As I've seen some videos tearing the phone apart and shows that indeed it has a 3100mAh only INSTEAD OF THE 3250mAh that ZTE claims it to have.
I am using the A2017G version bought from Amazon Germany. And it bugs and find it irritating that ZTE might be lying to us Axon users. Perhaps I'm wrong but.... I had to check with them.
After several emails and communication with ZTE they sent me this reply, which still DOESN'T ANSWER MY CONCERNS and their reply MAKES NO SENSE to me and I am an electronic engineer. I would like to hear from anyone who might have the same issue and/or just want to add some info. Thanks guys. Here's the reply from ZTE:
"Dear Valued ZTE Customer,
Thanks for contacting ZTE.
We are really sorry for the delay in response.
This email is with regards to the issue you had forwarded us about the wrong capacity battery that you have received.
We would like to inform you that, perhaps our concerned team has already informed you about the results they found from the test they performed.
However incase they haven't then, this is what they had to say about the battery issue.
The battery has two nominal values, one is the nominal value and the typical value. The A7 battery has a nominal value of 3250 mHA and a typical value of 3140 mHa.
As you mentioned by applying the check to the battery is 3100mhA, the possible reason:
1. Battery inspection application of the inspection program related to the application of detection methods affect the detection accuracy, the most accurate battery test is through a professional battery capacity test equipment to check, A7 battery capacity. The amount is measured by the battery capacity test equipment capacity, capacity is no problem.
2, The battery capacity itself will increase with the use of time, the battery capacity will drop, according to the standard battery cycle 500 times, the battery capacity reduced to 80% of the original qualified.
Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us."
Monk09 said:
I have installed many apps to find out the capacity of the battery all say 3100mAh. I installed and updated several versions of the O.S. from Marshmallow to Nougat thinking that maybe the OS were not showing the accurate battery size. But nothing...
As I've seen some videos tearing the phone apart and shows that indeed it has a 3100mAh only INSTEAD OF THE 3250mAh that ZTE claims it to have.
I am using the A2017G version bought from Amazon Germany. And it bugs and find it irritating that ZTE might be lying to us Axon users. Perhaps I'm wrong but.... I had to check with them.
After several emails and communication with ZTE they sent me this reply, which still DOESN'T ANSWER MY CONCERNS and their reply MAKES NO SENSE to me and I am an electronic engineer. I would like to hear from anyone who might have the same issue and/or just want to add some info. Thanks guys. Here's the reply from ZTE:
"Dear Valued ZTE Customer,
Thanks for contacting ZTE.
We are really sorry for the delay in response.
This email is with regards to the issue you had forwarded us about the wrong capacity battery that you have received.
We would like to inform you that, perhaps our concerned team has already informed you about the results they found from the test they performed.
However incase they haven't then, this is what they had to say about the battery issue.
The battery has two nominal values, one is the nominal value and the typical value. The A7 battery has a nominal value of 3250 mHA and a typical value of 3140 mHa.
As you mentioned by applying the check to the battery is 3100mhA, the possible reason:
1. Battery inspection application of the inspection program related to the application of detection methods affect the detection accuracy, the most accurate battery test is through a professional battery capacity test equipment to check, A7 battery capacity. The amount is measured by the battery capacity test equipment capacity, capacity is no problem.
2, The battery capacity itself will increase with the use of time, the battery capacity will drop, according to the standard battery cycle 500 times, the battery capacity reduced to 80% of the original qualified.
Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us."
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Oh my dear God you get 150 mAh less! What is this madness?
Okay jokes aside, the battery capacity is actually 3140 mAh. I've seen this number before buying the phone, on reviews and one of the official pages, and when I bricked it, I took it apart and the battery says 3140.
Now a couple of things. assuming that the battery is actually 3140, they are saying that the battery has 110 mAh more. They are stating that the battery is 3.5% bigger than it is in reality. Is it worth spending all that time and effort writing the OP, asking ZTE for explanations, even watching disassembly videos, because the battery is 3.5% smaller?
And what do you plan to do, turn it back because you'll have 12.6 minutes less SOT?
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Yes, your jokes are hilarious indeed. I'm talking about the principles here man. They're claiming something it isn't true. False advertising.
When you go to a McDonald's and they give you a half empty box of fries (which sometimes happens) do you just take it? At then end of the day, you, me and the buyers in general pay for the price that a company asks for. I don't know about you but when I buy something I expect it to be in good condition and fit for purpose. Or at least with the same specs as they advertise...
Whether it has 3.5% less capacity or not - that is NOT THE POINT. Point is they are advertising it incorrectly. And I HAVE TIME TO WRITE AND ADDRESS THE ISSUE TO THEM.
Yes, usually what I would do is return it, I have no problem returning stuff if they don't meet my expectations and Amazon is usually good regarding refunds. But I would not return it in this case, because as you correctly said, 110mAh less won't make a huge difference. But again, it's the principles man.
One other thing is if you read ZTE's reply, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It all sounds a bunch of excuses to me. Oh! Sorry, unlike me, you probably won't have time to read it.
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Yes, your jokes are hilarious indeed. I'm talking about the principles here man. They're claiming something it isn't true. False advertising.
When you go to a McDonald's and they give you a half empty box of fries (which sometimes happens) do you just take it? At then end of the day, you, me and the buyers in general pay for the price that a company asks for. I don't know about you but when I buy something I expect it to be in good condition and fit for purpose. Or at least with the same specs as they advertise...
Whether it has 3.5% less capacity or not - that is NOT THE POINT. Point is they are advertising it incorrectly. And I HAVE TIME TO WRITE AND ADDRESS THE ISSUE TO THEM.
Yes, usually what I would do is return it, I have no problem returning stuff if they don't meet my expectations and Amazon is usually good regarding refunds. But I would not return it in this case, because as you correctly said, 110mAh less won't make a huge difference. But again, it's the principles man.
One other thing is if you read ZTE's reply, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It all sounds a bunch of excuses to me. Oh! Sorry, unlike me, you probably won't have time to read it.
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Hell they're not giving you half the capacity advertised - just 3.5% less, that's my point. You wouldn't bother if they gave you 3.5% less fries would you. i guess that this would be relevant if they actually shipped with 3000 mAh. False advertisement would be more like what has been going down with the OnePlus 3 and 5. They make their phones go full throttle to get the best results on benchmark apps, and they appear at the top of the list because most new phones have the same 835 anyways. Or with the Huawei P10s where they claimed UFS 2.1 and changed that on the last week, and you could even get eMMC storage
Monk09 said:
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Yes, your jokes are hilarious indeed. I'm talking about the principles here man. They're claiming something it isn't true. False advertising.
When you go to a McDonald's and they give you a half empty box of fries (which sometimes happens) do you just take it? At then end of the day, you, me and the buyers in general pay for the price that a company asks for. I don't know about you but when I buy something I expect it to be in good condition and fit for purpose. Or at least with the same specs as they advertise...
Whether it has 3.5% less capacity or not - that is NOT THE POINT. Point is they are advertising it incorrectly. And I HAVE TIME TO WRITE AND ADDRESS THE ISSUE TO THEM.
Yes, usually what I would do is return it, I have no problem returning stuff if they don't meet my expectations and Amazon is usually good regarding refunds. But I would not return it in this case, because as you correctly said, 110mAh less won't make a huge difference. But again, it's the principles man.
One other thing is if you read ZTE's reply, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It all sounds a bunch of excuses to me. Oh! Sorry, unlike me, you probably won't have time to read it.
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Both capacities are correct. If you fill it up with, say, QC3 or a 2A charger, it will go closer to the 3140 mark, but if you charge it with a 1A charger, it will go closer to the 3250 mark. All modern lithium-ion batteries do this. Using you analogy, it would be like filling the fry container (? whatever it's called) with the fry container filler (? I know this is wrong) really fast and getting, say, 100 fries, versus taking 10 seconds and getting 104.
I feel like as this device gets older, the expectations in general get unrealistically higher and higher... Especially for a device that's less than $300 with a 2K super amoled display and periodic fw updates... ?
awsomjgp said:
Using you analogy, it would be like filling the fry container (? whatever it's called) with the fry container filler (? I know this is wrong) really fast and getting, say, 100 fries, versus taking 10 seconds and getting 104.
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Whoa that was a deep analogy
Batteries typically have two capacities listed: a minimum (min) and a typical (typ). All companies tend to advertise the typical capacity, even if the battery you have is closer to the minimum.
For example, the LG G3 is advertised everywhere as having a 3000mAh battery (the typ size), while the battery itself has a min of 2940mAh printed on it.
Another example is the Moto G4 Play, which has a typ size of 2800mAh (which is what gets advertised), but has a 2685mAh min printed on the battery itself.
ZTE seems to have only listed the minimum capacity on the battery itself, not the typical capacity.

OEM battery or aftermarket battery?

hi guys i want to buy a new battery because mine is becoming old.
i was looking online for a new battery and i came across many different brand of aftermarket battery for the nexus 6p and i was wondering:
1st, is it possible to find a better battery or should i just buy OEM? if it is possible to find a better battery, which one should i buy?
also, some have a higher mAh does that mean they are better?
THANKS GUYS!
sadly the situation isn't that simple. huawei never officially sold genuine aftermarket batteries to consumers.
but there are various replica from different companies and somehow huawei oem through various channels (can include used ones).
they differ in:
- capacity (mAh)/weight (g)
- size of the connector ribbon (thick = good, thin = can cause unexpected reboots, because insufficient power/current could be provided for 'intense' actions like processing a hdr picture)
- temperature sensor (yes = good, no = definitely no advantage in matters of quick-charging, because the SoC can't throttle power/current according to battery temperature to prevent overheating. although never heard any stories about explosions, but shouldn't be good for overall battery-life and could probably be avoided if just not using quick-charge)
additionally some companies modified their batteries over time to some extent (removed temperature sensor, changed capacity, ...) and the pictures in shops online aren't always completely accurate.
but in the 'Accessories'-Subforum there is a huge thread 'OEM battery' with tons of information (https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/oem-battery-t3534410).
there you should find help, good luck it's not impossible

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