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Mega Review of the Xperia Z1 and QX10 plus Z1 camera vs iPhone 5S

From tomorrow on my blog, link in my signature, I am starting a daily mega review of the Sony Xperia Z1 and QX10 lens, along with a number of accessories. Each day over the next several weeks will add more and more.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Camera shoot out now live Z1 vs 5S http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/...xperia-z1-share-you-view-on-the-better-phone/

gavinfabl said:
From tomorrow on my blog, link in my signature, I am starting a daily mega review of the Sony Xperia Z1 and QX10 lens, along with a number of accessories. Each day over the next several weeks will add more and more.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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Hey mate where did u get your Z1 from?

From Clove Technology www.clove.co.uk
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Qx10 not come out yet right?
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Hey buddy,
Where's the link for your blog ?
M looking for screen contrast ratio, sunlight contrast demonstration (video) and headphone audio loudness....
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paullu said:
Qx10 not come out yet right?
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It is available from www.sony.co.uk their own store. I bought it on Sunday and it got delivered yesterday. Just writing the first impressions with some photos now. Will be live in 90 mins approx.
sachinaik said:
Hey buddy,
Where's the link for your blog ?
M looking for screen contrast ratio, sunlight contrast demonstration (video) and headphone audio loudness....
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It is in my signature and it is www.gavinsgadgets.co.uk .If you use search top right and enter QX10 or Xperia Z1 you will get all the previous posts on either the QX10 or Z1.

Ok. Next part of the Z1 review up tomorrow as well as the QX10 lens.
Don't be afraid to ask questions
http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/review-links/
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Appart from the obvious 10x optical zoom, have you noticed any advantages on using the QX10 instead of the Z1's 20.7 mpix G lens 1/2.3shooter?
Are photos that better with the 1/2.3 18 mpix QX10? Is it worth? Or should we wait for the more capable (one inch sensor) QX100?
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gtrab said:
Appart from the obvious 10x optical zoom, have you noticed any advantages on using the QX10 instead of the Z1's 20.7 mpix G lens 1/2.3shooter?
Are photos that better with the 1/2.3 18 mpix QX10? Is it worth? Or should we wait for the more capable (one inch sensor) QX100?
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From my perspective the QX10 delivers much better quality photos. I would use it for stills not motion though. It has superior low light, nearly noise free, sharp and clear. However, it will be more convenient to carry once the spa-acx2 case is available, since you can reduce its thickness by removing the clamp section.
However, you have no real control over the QX10. It is designed to be used in auto mode. That is not necessarily a bad thing, but if you want proper control you need the QX100, which I will be getting soon. From all the descriptions by Sony, I didnt expect the QX10 to have such good low light photos. So it makes me wonder how much better the QX100 wil be.
I reckon it will be better manual control and slightly better quality optics.
The Z1 camera firmware really needs improving. The danger here is in 3-6 months Sony have addressed this, and the QX10 might only be useful for zoom. Somehow, I still think the QX10 will always take better quality shots though.

So, it DOES take better pictures than the Z1's sensor?

Better quality yes. Z1 camera has more fancy options due to its speed and effects
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As I sold my HTC One to get a better camera phone I hope Sony update the firmware as fast as they can. The HTC One took very good photo's but the 4mp was lacking for detail in my opinion and it was nowhere near as good as my trusty 'old' Lumia 920 camera which I was very impressed by.
Going to wait a few months and see if the camera improves if not will seriously consider the QX10 with the Sony case for attaching it onto which looks seriously cool.

Hello Gavin!
Long time no see!
I am too thinking of swapping from HTC One to Z1 due to purple tint issue in the camera.
Though is it worth it to take the Z1 instead of other phones like S4 and G2 just for the 20mp?
Camera is important for me but the 170g and large bezel of the Z1 are crazy no?
Also what about the screen under sunlight?
Even if not as good as the One,is it usable for texting for example?

vegetaleb said:
Hello Gavin!
Long time no see!
I am too thinking of swapping from HTC One to Z1 due to purple tint issue in the camera.
Though is it worth it to take the Z1 instead of other phones like S4 and G2 just for the 20mp?
Camera is important for me but the 170g and large bezel of the Z1 are crazy no?
Also what about the screen under sunlight?
Even if not as good as the One,is it usable for texting for example?
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I wouldn't go back to the htc one. The z1 camera needs firmware tweaking. 20mp doesn't equal great shots. I wouldn't get either samsung . the z1 build quality is fantastic. Waterproof etc. No sunshine yet. So can't tell you. Texting etc is fine. Default keyboard can be customised. I think its swiftkey.
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Default keyboard can be customised. I think its swiftkey.
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That is interesting, seeing as I purchased SwiftKey for the S4.
I must find some time to at the very least look at my Z1.
It arrived Wed so that is three days the package has sat waiting to be opened....

Beards said:
That is interesting, seeing as I purchased SwiftKey for the S4.
I must find some time to at the very least look at my Z1.
It arrived Wed so that is three days the package has sat waiting to be opened....
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3 days
It is well worth even a slight peek.

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3 days
It is well worth even a slight peek.
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Trouble is if I do have a peek it will end up with me picking it up, then reaching for the rest of the box contents.....
The next thing I would find myself putting the phone on charge, and I just know although I would be sat working the temptation to keep looking across at the soft glowing red light waiting for the change to green would be just too tempting.
So no, not even a peek Gavin.

Z1 vs G2 vs S4 Camera Test

Z1 vs G2 vs S4
Here's my Z1, G2 and S4 going head to head.
I'm at work at the moment so they're not the best comparisons
The Z1 was shot in 8mp Superior Auto and 20mp Manual
The G2 was shot in 10mp Auto
The S4 was shot in 9.6mp Auto
Z1 Manual
Z1 Auto
My opinion is....
1st = G2
2nd = Z1
3rd = S4
Let me know what you think.....

Lol, planning on doing some more comparisons? As only one photo doesn't say too much...
But owning the Z1 and the G2 myself as well I tend to give the first place in good light to the G2 as well, the Z1 has more potential (especially in lower light situations) but somehow it doesn;t work too great yet. Especially with autosettings the G2 is the winner for me.

dagrim1 said:
Lol, planning on doing some more comparisons? As only one photo doesn't say too much...
But owning the Z1 and the G2 myself as well I tend to give the first place in good light to the G2 as well, the Z1 has more potential (especially in lower light situations) but somehow it doesn;t work too great yet. Especially with autosettings the G2 is the winner for me.
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Lol of course i''ll add more but it's all i can do at work, i'll do more when im home
Yeah i agree the G2 wins it for me, i used it all weekend and i was impressed with every picture but after using the Z1 for a few weeks, im usually dissapointed with most pictures. some low light pictures with the Z1 were really impressive, but the others were just ruined by noise.
I know the Z1 can produce some great shots in manual but 99% of pictures i take are spontaneous pictures, i quickly pull out my phone, snap a pictures and away i go, for this the Z1's 'Superior Auto' is not as good as the G2

Btw, I didn't mean to sound like an ass with that first line... No insult intended
But indeed, you shouldn't have to tweak in manual settings to get decent pictures. In my opinion at least 90% of the people just want to take a quick snap. Really torn between the Z1 and G2 myself, I love the screen, battery, wifi/data connection and partially the camera of the G2 but the feel and software (and partially the camera) of the Z1... Still can not decide but using the G2 as the main phone atm.
Am truely hoping the Z1 camera will get improved more in the near future...

dagrim1 said:
Btw, I didn't mean to sound like an ass with that first line... No insult intended
But indeed, you shouldn't have to tweak in manual settings to get decent pictures. In my opinion at least 90% of the people just want to take a quick snap. Really torn between the Z1 and G2 myself, I love the screen, battery, wifi/data connection and partially the camera of the G2 but the feel and software (and partially the camera) of the Z1... Still can not decide but using the G2 as the main phone atm.
Am truely hoping the Z1 camera will get improved more in the near future...
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I will put the Z1 down as a huge dissapointment as Sony over promised and over hyped it with PR bull like it having a Triluminous and X-Reality display and having 'Superor Auto' camera etc.. but in reality the screen is shocking and the cameras 'Superior Auto' is actually poor.
Sony should of just advertised the Z1 as the best waterproof phone on the market and its excellent build quality. and not focused on the screen and camera.
Oh and here's a quick screen comparison of the Z1 and G2

That manual mode on the z1 looks awesome, way less noise and more like a DSLR type of picture. But I am surprised that it's not performing too well (too much noise) in auto mode.
Did you upgrade the Z1? I heard Sony released an update a few weeks ago that improved the cam quality.
Btw can you allow us to download the original picture, please? You only let us up to Large 2048. I want to be able to see the full 20.7 MP and 13 MP.
The G2 has so much potential in its camera but LG keeps using that useless post processing effect that they also use in their HDTVs (which in my opinion really ruins the picture quality and makes it "overly smooth and weird" for no reason instead of sharp and a nice blur)
Can you do me a favor? download Camera360 and take a picture using Effects mode and then None and upload, for both G2 and Z1. I would like to see if the quality is better as usually Camera360 is capable of taking raw pictures with maximum details compared to Google's and Samsung's official camera apps (I know this is not google or Samsung but Sony's and LG's).

Ramsey said:
That manual mode on the z1 looks awesome, way less noise and more like a DSLR type of picture. But I am surprised that it's not performing too well (too much noise) in auto mode.
Did you upgrade the Z1? I heard Sony released an update a few weeks ago that improved the cam quality.
Btw can you allow us to download the original picture, please? You only let us up to Large 2048. I want to be able to see the full 20.7 MP and 13 MP.
The G2 has so much potential in its camera but LG keeps using that useless post processing effect that they also use in their HDTVs (which in my opinion really ruins the picture quality and makes it "overly smooth and weird" for no reason instead of sharp and a nice blur)
Can you do me a favor? download Camera360 and take a picture using Effects mode and then None and upload, for both G2 and Z1. I would like to see if the quality is better as usually Camera360 is capable of taking raw pictures with maximum details compared to Google's and Samsung's official camera apps (I know this is not google or Samsung but Sony's and LG's).
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Here's the G2 in full 13mp mode with the ISO set to 200, not Auto...
You can download the orignals from Flickr, i just checked. Click on an image, then click on the 3 dots in the bottom right hand corner and then click on 'View all Sizes', then select 'Original'
Here's a direct link the the full 20mp sample
I won't have time to try out that camera app as im about to leave work, sorry mate

Can't see original, maybe because I'm not signed in? I can, however, click your original link here in XDA and it works great for the Z1 20MP.
Can you take pictures of far objects? Almost all cell phones look great in close/macro shots.

I must say that for amateurs the LG G2 seems better, BUT you fail to note the picture is aggressively over sharpened (to make it seem sharper), the z1 is more natural, and is the better out of the bunch.

[email protected] said:
I must say that for amateurs the LG G2 seems better, BUT you fail to note the picture is aggressively over sharpened (to make it seem sharper), the z1 is more natural, and is the better out of the bunch.
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With the Lego in front of me, i can tell you the detail on the G2's image is correct while to Z1's is too blurred/smooth and is missing scratches/marks from his hat of which the G2 manages to pick up. but this is being picky, the Z1's manual is still great.
i totally agree the G2 is the best for amateurs who just was a great point and shoot on their mobile and don't want to spend time manually setting the camera to the best setting every time they want a picture.
If Sony could fix the terrible Auto mode, then things would be much better for the Z1.

They need to fix the auto mode, sometimes you get amazing shots and sometimes average shots. Didn't dxomark rate the video camera the best ?
plus people need to remember your viewing the images on a 1080p screen.

Ramsey said:
Can't see original, maybe because I'm not signed in? I can, however, click your original link here in XDA and it works great for the Z1 20MP.
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That's because it says in flickr
The owner has disabled downloading of their photos
Not only is there no orginal neither can you download anything. Why ?
Sorry, neilmc1983, no fair, enable it so we can check out the orginal pics.
neilmc1983 said:
But the image is more blurred and the colour reproduction is completely wrong.
Looking at the crops, the LG G2 wins for me. great detail, clarity and the colours were correct.
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Whose fault is it if the picture is more blurred ?
completely wrong ? What is it with these exaggerations !!
It's looks pretty close to me. I don't see any wb issues there. No blue or yellow tints.
neilmc1983 said:
I've just purchased an LG G2, so now i have a Z1, S4 and a G2
I'm busy this weekend but i will post comparison pics of all 3 and i will show the terrible noise on the Z1 even with the update.
So far i am very impressed with the G2 camera.
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Did not see any terrible noise with this set of pictures
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ok mate, i understand you can create better looking pictures in manual but still the Auto mode should still be excellent like it is on the G2 and S4, but its not on the Z1, its very poor and Sony have the cheek to call it 'Superior Auto'
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Its not very poor. Its improved over earlier versions. It can be better.
Bear in mind that lg, samsung & apple do more aggressive noise reduction. This means you lose details in lower light. Its one or the other. Z1 is more capable of taking pictures in more light ranges than any of the above. You want to excel in good light the others will be better, you want low light they will struggle.

neilmc1983 said:
With the Lego in front of me, i can tell you the detail on the G2's image is correct while to Z1's is too blurred/smooth and is missing scratches/marks from his hat of which the G2 manages to pick up. but this is being picky, the Z1's manual is still great.
i totally agree the G2 is the best for amateurs who just was a great point and shoot on their mobile and don't want to spend time manually setting the camera to the best setting every time they want a picture.
If Sony could fix the terrible Auto mode, then things would be much better for the Z1.
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G2 at 13 MP still got more noticeable amount of noise over Z1 at 20MP, easily spotted.

Very disappointed with the picture quality on Z1. I was not expecting DSLR quality photo but at least slightly better than S4 / Iphone 5s
Sony better do someting or else we would see less sales on Z2 or their next line up of product. I compared mine with Note 2 & Note 3, pictures quality are better on Note 3.

It's important to note that your individual experience doesn't agree with what most of the professional comparisons are saying.
I think you should buy a Nokia windows phone since it appears you're more interested mainly in cameraphones, they have just the cameras you're looking for. Otherwise if you're going to stick with android for mostly non camera related reasons, I'd keep your z1 vs the LG's freaking god awful software.
To paraphrase their company slogan when it comes to OEM forks of android "Life is (not) Good". The z1 is a far better smartphone than the g2 in most smartphone aspects.
Reading your anti z1 cam and display posts lately I can only conclude you have a decisive bias towards the g2, your display experiences aren't indicative of the norm everywhere else, and you appear to be looking for bolstering from people to feel better about choosing the g2.
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omnius1 said:
To paraphrase their company slogan when it comes to OEM forks of android "Life is (not) Good". The z1 is a far better smartphone than the g2 in most smartphone aspects
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I disagree, G2 seems far better than Z1, the Z1 currently for me only wins in the aspect of build quality/material and maybe the polished user interface (depends on what user likes) and ofc the water proof in z1 which is not for me as I had seen how waterproofing worked on my xperia z, I am not a fanboy or something of G2 I have recently bought it after thinking 100 times if I should go with LG but thinking their past 1 years work I did trust LG and to be true I am not disappointed. Z1 is a great looking design phone and with very polished user interface other than that I don't feel Z1 can be better than G2 or maybe even note 3. (I dislike note 3) I'd rather wait for z2 and see if they work on their display panels.

We agree to disagree then. I find Sony phones to be of much higher quality than LG on pretty much every level.
I find Sony electronics in general to be of a higher caliber than LG who are still struggling with their budget electronics stigma.
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omnius1 said:
We agree to disagree then. I find Sony phones to be of much higher quality than LG on pretty much every level.
I find Sony electronics in general to be of a higher caliber than LG who are still struggling with their budget electronics stigma.
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z1
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You are right about the higher quality of Sony phone or any Sony product, I myself use Sony Tv's camcorder, vaio, but I guess their smartphone in terms of build is the best in market no one can win it anyday no matter if it's a low-end, mid-range or high-end device Sony's phone are the best in terms of build but the main problem occurs is the display and the glass at back, on my xperia z the glass got unglued and also cracked due to heat same happen to the z1 it was unglued and also the display I had got myself 9 replacements of z1 but the display of all was never satisfying took replacement from several service centers but still no luck in display and finally a refund, I'll anyday go for Sony if I want a high quality built device but as per usage I wouldn't go for Sony as of now.

omnius1 said:
Reading your anti z1 cam and display posts lately I can only conclude you have a decisive bias towards the g2, your display experiences aren't indicative of the norm everywhere else, and you appear to be looking for bolstering from people to feel better about choosing the g2.
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I've got that impression too as far as OP is concerned.
G2 vs Z1 is a tough decision.
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but the main problem occurs is the display and the glass at back, on my xperia z the glass got unglued and also cracked due to heat same happen to the z1 it was unglued and also the display I had got myself 9 replacements of z1 but the display of all was never satisfying took replacement from several service centers but still no luck in display and finally a refund, I'll anyday go for Sony if I want a high quality built device but as per usage I wouldn't go for Sony as of now.
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9 replacements !!
It seems to take forever just to get one replacement, unless there is a clear problem with the device they refuse it.
How the heck did you manage to get 9. I'd have thought they'd try once or twice, failing which return your money and tell you to get lost.

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I've got that impression too as far as OP is concerned.
G2 vs Z1 is a tough decision.
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9 replacements !!
It seems to take forever just to get one replacement, unless there is a clear problem with the device they refuse it.
How the heck did you manage to get 9. I'd have thought they'd try once or twice, failing which return your money and tell you to get lost.
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I guess they are pretty good and nice here in my country/city and also they had agreed to all the display issues faced without banging my head on walls to explain them.

Sony Xperia Z2 vs iPhone 5s vs Lumia 1520 low-light camera comparison

Really happy with this test , showing the excellent low light capabilities of the Xperia Z2,
Here:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NKTYPBuGH4

That's amazing
Hope the camera will impressive as in the show when I use it later

Wow
Just one word, Wow!

Ok wait i'm speachless now! THIS JUST SMASHED THE NOKIA AND I****5S

As a Z1 owner this makes me really happy. Both have the same camera, there's no reason why ours shouldn't be improved to be like the Z2's!

I think there is some NFC trick going around. See that plastic sticker on the box?

^ Are u joking? I doubt that they would be so stupid and cheat there, reviews would find that out really fast.

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^ Are u joking? I doubt that they would be so stupid and cheat there, reviews would find that out really fast.
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Not a fair comparison. I have owned the 5S and 1520. Use a Note 3. The 1520 would still take a better or as good as shot if it was allowed to focus properly and not have the focus light covered
Not saying the Z2 will be poor just adding some balance.

Mmm.. maybe those box is made for the z2 showoff
Maybe after released to the market, there will be a better camera comparison. But I still love the z2 rather than 5s or the nokia or the s5

Something is very suspicious about this test. I don't know what they're doing, but I would not expect that dramatic of a difference with the Z2 camera in reality.

People need to understand how ISO, shutter speed and aperture work before making judgement. Unless you're just gonna use it for selfies in auto-mode... in which case, who gives a crap.

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People need to understand how ISO, shutter speed and aperture work before making judgement. Unless you're just gonna use it for selfies in auto-mode... in which case, who gives a crap.
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EXACTLY! What people don't understand is that the shutter speed and ISO can be manually adjusted on the Lumia to take some very impressive low light shots that would never even be visible on the almighty 5S.

Not a very good comparison, we'll see what happens in real life. But still... suggesting NFC trickery with the sticker on the box sounds a little bit far-fetched...

You guys are so crazy for thinking z2 smashed the other two. It was a cheated test for god sake. The z2 used flash while the others didn't
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SuperMane said:
I think there is some NFC trick going around. See that plastic sticker on the box?
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Really? you think NFC was used here and it wasn't showed on the screen that NFC was used, how stupid can you be?
and doesn't 1520 support NFC too? and We all clearly saw that the flash is off on all three devices.
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Not a fair comparison. I have owned the 5S and 1520. Use a Note 3. The 1520 would still take a better or as good as shot if it was allowed to focus properly and not have the focus light covered
Not saying the Z2 will be poor just adding some balance.
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Hypocrite, I clearly myself sometimes don't like the photo quality on Z1 cause it can do better than that and it's all with software issue and I compared 1520 with Xperia Z1 and It showed Xperia Z1 is better.
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EXACTLY! What people don't understand is that the shutter speed and ISO can be manually adjusted on the Lumia to take some very impressive low light shots that would never even be visible on the almighty 5S.
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This test was done on fully auto not the manual mode, I know if it was taken on manual mode Xperia Z2 might not do well yet it will have some decent pictures, Remember that SA mode isn't bad all the time. It takes some great shots time to time.

What a shot!

aliHTCDHD said:
You guys are so crazy for thinking z2 smashed the other two. It was a cheated test for god sake. The z2 used flash while the others didn't
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well that test is kinda strange for sure but flash clearly wasnt used - you can even see the disabled flash symbol in that video

I've re-watched the video and I now understand how it did better but I will wait for comparisons by tech sites. For me all Sony cameras on xperias have been rubbish so I will wait. I don't expect it to beat One/2 or 1020 pureview in low light but we'll see.
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aliHTCDHD said:
You guys are so crazy for thinking z2 smashed the other two. It was a cheated test for god sake. The z2 used flash while the others didn't
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Flash was turned off... you can clearly see that on the screen. However ridiculous the test might be - suggesting Sony rigged it with NFC or hidden/modified icon to conceal the use of flash is just as ridiculous...
This test it still useless though. Real photos are what matters and we will know more in the weeks to come.

GS6 vs Z3 Camera Comparison

Samsung Galaxy S6 vs Sony Xperia Z3 Camera Test: http://youtu.be/SDgmFC2H5eU

Well, well, well...
I think some people will start a war because of Z3 LOL!!!
Sent from my AWESOME Xperia Z3!

Both did pretty well, though I give a slight edge to the Z3, seemed more "natural" in some of those pics to me.
Then again both use Sony Exmor Sensors. The S6 uses the Sony IMX240 and the Z3 uses the Sony IMX 220.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor

To be honest I can't really see the difference since the pictures were converted to videos and that would made it difficult to compare. Some pics z3 wins in color but some also s6 has more detail. Both performed great at lowlights but i think I have to give it to s6 for now. O need to see real file/picture comparison. Z3 is great but "superior auto" is messed up intentionally.
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Well a lot of people like warmer temp photo's but to be honest the Samsung one has gone too far. Not sure what the point of that comparison was for exactly, maybe just trying to get youtube thumbs up

This proves to me that my Z3 camera is faulty as I never get that kind of sharp detail on grass and leaves, it's always a bit fuzzy.

Maybe your camera my z3 takes amazingly sharp pictures

Boldizzle said:
This proves to me that my Z3 camera is faulty as I never get that kind of sharp detail on grass and leaves, it's always a bit fuzzy.
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Might also been compared to Z3 with lollipop.

I'm guessing those pics were on manual mode.

S6 completely destroys it in that video.

Stixxbixby said:
Samsung Galaxy S6 vs Sony Xperia Z3 Camera Test: http://youtu.be/SDgmFC2H5eU
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On 1:06 in video on Z3 photo in reflection you can see iPhone.... =)
God knows what is on S6 place =)
FAKE!

yeah it's defenitely not a Sony phone, Z3 would never perform that well.

nomaj said:
On 1:06 in video on Z3 photo in reflection you can see iPhone.... =)
God knows what is on S6 place =)
FAKE!
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I, for one, cannot make out what the heck-a-rello is the blurred image in that reflection?! How can u be so sure?

progosu said:
yeah it's defenitely not a Sony phone, Z3 would never perform that well.
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If one knows the way of using manual mode to take pics in Xperia Z3, it is much better than the others
Z3 in manual mode with particular settings for particular scene gives you top class pictures .....only Superior auto mode is not good

Stixxbixby said:
I, for one, cannot make out what the heck-a-rello is the blurred image in that reflection?! How can u be so sure?
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Look closely you will see mirrored apple sign ... also look on bevels, and the color of the phone.
SO! SO! LAME! =)
I can only guess phone that is used for Samsung S6 images =)

Installed Camera Zoom Fx and now photos are pretty good!

The iPhone 6 uses a Sony ISX014 which is a smaller sensor vs the Sony IMX 240 in the Galaxy S6/Note 4 so you are right those photos could be misleading, nice find lol. I did not observe that reflection.

nomaj said:
Look closely you will see mirrored apple sign ... also look on bevels, and the color of the phone.
SO! SO! LAME! =)
I can only guess phone that is used for Samsung S6 images =)
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Good job! What a fake comparsion.

esselite said:
Good job! What a fake comparsion.
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Yes... people does lame stuff just to increase view count on youtube =(

nomaj said:
Look closely you will see mirrored apple sign ... also look on bevels, and the color of the phone.
SO! SO! LAME! =)
I can only guess phone that is used for Samsung S6 images =)
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Holy shizit! Impressive detective work. I would never have spotted that.

Z5 Compact a joke?

Why is this Z5 compact such a joke? It almost has the same specs as the z3 compact and the new camera aint all that good. The new sensor might be good but what if you cant make the software work? Its like putting a retard in a F1 car. Look at these photosamples http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ on the right you find a note 5, which has a sony sensor at 16MP and on the left you find the Z5 premium with a 21MP sensor but it cant shoot any good pictures in the dark..... So again sony ****ed it up.

Name a single <5" non-iOS phone that can compete on specifications.

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Name a single <5" non-iOS phone that can compete on specifications.
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I don't think he's specifically talking about the specs of the phone, just that the camera still sucks.
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But I can't think of any <5" phone that can compete camera-wise (except the iPhone 6S)?
And I think we should wait for more photo samples to appear before we take final judgement. Most of these early photo samples are using non-final software.
Here's a review that says the camera is the best in class:
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ria-z5-compact-review-best-smaller-smartphone

Hate to point out the obvious but every new phone that comes is an incremental improvement over its predecessor. Look at the iPhone, people(fools) queue for hours to be first to get the new model with 10% faster cpu, 10% bigger screen, 10% more pixels on the cmos sensor, and 20% less battery power. How i chuckle when i see iphone 6 owners, like junkies desperately looking for their next power fix! But, i digress.
A jack of all trades is a master of none. It is after all, a phone. It is not meant to be a world class, low light camera. My first camera phone was 0.3megapix. I thought it was pretty damn cool to have a camera at all. People just take it for granted nowadays. You want good low light photos, buy a camera. You know, them things you cant make phone calls on!

RiTCHiE007 said:
Why is this Z5 compact such a joke? It almost has the same specs as the z3 compact and the new camera aint all that good. The new sensor might be good but what if you cant make the software work? Its like putting a retard in a F1 car. Look at these photosamples http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ on the right you find a note 5, which has a sony sensor at 16MP and on the left you find the Z5 premium with a 21MP sensor but it cant shoot any good pictures in the dark..... So again sony ****ed it up.
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The camera is a lot better than the Z3.
This thread is like giving a retard a keyboard and allowing them to post on forums.

kitch9 said:
The camera is a lot better than the Z3.
This thread is like giving a retard a keyboard and allowing them to post on forums.
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Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.

RiTCHiE007 said:
Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.
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Ok bro....

You own a Z5C despite proclaiming it to be 'a joke' before it even went on sale? Huh... interesting.
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kitch9 said:
Ok bro....
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Brothers love, eey?

RiTCHiE007 said:
Not really because i owned a z3c and own a z5c and the z5c isn't that great to begin with. So the only tard in this topic is you bro.
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I to had Z3C, were active in XDA section for it, and for one i KNOW Z5C has a better camera to start with. Only thing it doesn't have is battery life on KK with Z3C which owned every cell phone with flagship specs.
On Z3C my focus struggled at times, colors were oversaturated and in many occasions picture looked washed out. That is not the case on Z5C BUT there is a lot room for improvement and i think Sony will do it in time. Great potential with the IMX230 hardware.

wouldn't it be a good idea to make a static topic for flaming about a certain device, so we can focus on the good things instead of getting distracted by this kind of topics?

willumpie82 said:
wouldn't it be a good idea to make a static topic for flaming about a certain device, so we can focus on the good things instead of getting distracted by this kind of topics?
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its not flaming its the truth but some just cant handle it.

bubimir13 said:
I to had Z3C, were active in XDA section for it, and for one i KNOW Z5C has a better camera to start with. Only thing it doesn't have is battery life on KK with Z3C which owned every cell phone with flagship specs.
On Z3C my focus struggled at times, colors were oversaturated and in many occasions picture looked washed out. That is not the case on Z5C BUT there is a lot room for improvement and i think Sony will do it in time. Great potential with the IMX230 hardware.
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Yes the camera on the z3c was worse then on the z5c but when you look at the pictures taken with a z5c you will see blurry edges and its almost impossible to make awesome macro shots. So even tho this camera is a bit better it still cant mess with other high ends like note 5 or LG g4 that also uses a sony sensor so thats why i think this z5c is kinda a joke. But if sony doesn't fix all these problems like laggy OS then this will be my last sony phone.

If you really think the performance is as bad as you say you should properly try another vendor! In my experience, they are at least as bad and some a lot worse..
Honestly, I would prefer a smaller Nexus, and might even go for the 5X despite the size.. Nexus device are best in performance (os lag eg), the rest are catching up lately!
You do know that the standard resolution in the app is set to 8M, right?.. I did read its better at that res, but you should maybe try and change it, it goes up to 23 you know..
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You own a Z5C despite proclaiming it to be 'a joke' before it even went on sale? Huh... interesting.
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Yup, because before it was out i judged on sample photo's and now that i own 1 i can confirm it that everything is knew before buying 1 was true. Even in clear daylight most photo's always seem to have a bit of blur on the right side. And batterylife is a bit wonky.

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Yup, because before it was out i judged on sample photo's and now that i own 1 i can confirm it that everything is knew before buying 1 was true. Even in clear daylight most photo's always seem to have a bit of blur on the right side. And batterylife is a bit wonky.
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Sorry to hear that. I had the same problem (except on the left edge instead), returned for a replacement and the second one is much better. It only blurs out the very far corners and only rarely, most pictures are fine. Have you still time for an exchange?
My battery life experience is pretty decent.
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Sorry to hear that. I had the same problem (except on the left edge instead), returned for a replacement and the second one is much better. It only blurs out the very far corners and only rarely, most pictures are fine. Have you still time for an exchange?
My battery life experience is pretty decent.
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No but i can always send it back to the repair center because they sold me a faulty unit but i need to make more photo's to give it a final judgement tho. Which color phone you got and what rev number is on the box if i may ask?

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No but i can always send it back to the repair center because they sold me a faulty unit but i need to make more photo's to give it a final judgement tho. Which color phone you got and what rev number is on the box if i may ask?
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Yellow. 1298-3810 Rev 1. My first one which had the blur was also the exact same though so I'm not sure whether that number means all that much.
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supercakefish said:
Yellow. 1298-3810 Rev 1. My first one which had the blur was also the exact same though so I'm not sure whether that number means all that much.
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Yea guess the color has nothing to do with is then because lots of white one's have the most problems it seems.