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I am going to London for a few days and want to buy XDA II. I have spoken with a shop in London and they said that they have it in stock and start selling on 1 November. I need a piece of advice from those who live in UK. I was told that the phone will be sold with a contract only.
1. In order to buy a contracted phone, do I need only ID and credit card or I need a permanent address in the UK as well?
2. What is O2 policy on early contract termination? I could not find anything on their site.
3. If I pay cash and leave the country does it mean that I am not paying early contract termination fee since they do not have my credit card number and I am not the UK resident?
4. Any ideas how to buy XDA II in the UK at minimum price in my situation?
Many thanks.
I bought the XDA online.... (original)
When I went to register it with O2 they checked through the deal I did with the link....
If I had not confirmed the registration when I purchased the device I would have been billed the full amount after a certain time.
If you buy a phone they will run a credit check including where you worked last....
If you terminate early I know many people that have been billed the full price.
sorry but it appears you have no option here. catch 22 situation...
hope that helps.
Ian.
Sorry my English is not that good. What 22 situation means?
What if I ask a friend of mine who lives in UK to register on his name, can I pay with my own credit card or it must be his credit card? In this way I would pay the charges for early contract termination from my card. Depends how much it is à course. Anybody knows how much O2 charges for early contract termination?
catch 22 - from the film by the same name... I think
basically you do it one way... you get screwed, you do it the other... you get screwed.
If you get your friend to register it you might be able to get the registration transferred over but your friend would be putting a hell of a lot of faith in you.
The cost for early contract termination is the cost of the phone without contract plus any extra charges O2 wish to lay on you. The XDAII is what £700 without contract? (speculative price)
either way, I wouldnt like to be you or your friend when you terminate the contract early.
sorry,
Ian.
I've got an idea. I ask my friend to put XDA on his card and purchase the insurance for the phone as well, while I pay cash back to him. Then I leave the UK and he reports XDA stolen or lost and gets a brand new XDA for himself for free.
Is it very illegal in UK to do in this way?
I would prefer a more legal way to get around.
errr it would be very illegal...
like insurance fraud illegal...
if it wasn't everyone would be doing it...
please dont suggest that here again... :shock:
I had a feeling that it's illegal
But is there a legal way??? I would appreciate if somebody will give an idea how to do it legally. Somehow a lot of phones are getting out of the coutries of origin, get unlocked and sold. So there should be a way I believe.
lol how could it not be illegal i mean they have to give him 2 phones at the price of one
if it were not who would stop people from doing the same thing with cars
and figtherplanes for that matter
Nestinar said:
Somehow a lot of phones are getting out of the coutries of origin, get unlocked and sold. So there should be a way I believe.
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Yeah thats because the supplier can source the items from other dealers (like when buying MS software)
but that usually doesnt happen until the item in question has been out for a few months... with the XDAII being so new their will likely be limited availibility... so I'd imagine getting one with a contract below the RRP O2 is selling it for will be hard enough never mind buying once cheap without a contract.
the phone when released is subsidised by the operator in the hopes they can make up development costs with the contract. They may begin to release phones to other parties after this time but they wont so close after the release date.
Ian.
P.S hence why that XDAII on ebay is so dodgy... where the hell did he get it from? (if he actually has it in the first place)
http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3270&highlight=ebay
There are phones available really soon after the initial release in the country of origin and sold usually in small shops (not chain mobile shops). That means that somehow the phones are purchased somewhere at low cost with a contract (operator's logo on the phone) and then shipped outside the country, get unlocked and sold. Which is probably not 100% legal scheme but if they can do in bulk means that there is more or less legal way to do it.
O2 are like pitbulls when the go after their money. I dont think they will allow early termination, so add up 13 months at the chosen tariff, put that in an account then each month it will be drawn at the monthly tariff by O2, when 12 months expire give 1 month notice and thats it. If it still seems cheap this way then good luck. Regarding the insurance claim, the phone companies now demand a written statement from the police and the owner, they have got very upset at all the claims and investigate each claim. I dont think a phone, no matter how desirable is worth a criminal record.
What is the situation with existing O2 customers? How much existing customers pay for a new XDA II?
Let's say my friend is an existing O2 customer and he buys XDA II. Can he sell it then to me and use the old handset instead?
I need some help
Cor I wonder about some of the Posts I read here.
Can anyone help me out with the Keys and combination for the Store room at O2 head quaters.
All plans and electrical documentation along with type of cctv and alarm systems would also be helpful..
If you work there then perhaps you could leave all of the stock on the Road outside the rear door. Please post a note here to let me know this information
I assume that it would not be so bad if I just rob them directly rather than do it behind their back.
Is that Legal.?. after all I am not making some bad insurance claim.
.... Well I am laughing....
I want to sell my droid pro on ebay, but I am getting a lot of inquiry from foreign customers as to the "unlock" status of the phone. I suppose that I could get a better price on it if I unlocked the phone for use on foreign networks. I wanted to know what the easiest way to get an unlock code from verizon and whether or not this is in any way unethical or illegal to do this.
Thanks
As I know, if you have a good account at verizon (ex: pay bill on time for over 90)
You may just call verizon customer service and told them you are going to somewhere dosn't cover by verizon(like travelling), and asking them to give you unlock code and then you can just unlock your phone.
It's nothing unethical IMO, since you have contract (if you can unlock the phone) and still paying bill.
Thanks for the response, will the unlock code permanently unlock the phone?
Yeah, suppose to be unlocked permanently. Unless verizon update the system (happend once this year)
Though recover won't break the unlock, it is still better to provide the unlock code to the buyer. You won't need the code anymore since the unlock code is different depends on the phone id.
OMG dude you should really get the unlock code having it unlocked can be the difference of selling it for 200 something to 300 something
All the once that are locked still sell for about 240-250ish and worldwide ones from what I can see sell for 340-350ish
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I unlocked mine in sim-unlock dot net for 5 euros
Thanks CrackMonkey, the only thing I am now concerned about is my shipping, which I've restricted to the United States. I've had a few inquiries from foreigners who claim to have a US address to use as an intermediary, but I am afraid that I may detract potential bidders who don't have a US address they can use. You guys have any experience with shipping ebay purchases to a foreign address?
Its pretty similar to shipping in US but cost more just make sure its a address that paypal trust and only sell to people with paypal in end you will probably only make 50 dollars more then if you sell it in US but still that's 50 more dollars you have
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Alright, crackmonkey, thanks a bunch for your help
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Thanks CrackMonkey, the only thing I am now concerned about is my shipping, which I've restricted to the United States. I've had a few inquiries from foreigners who claim to have a US address to use as an intermediary, but I am afraid that I may detract potential bidders who don't have a US address they can use. You guys have any experience with shipping ebay purchases to a foreign address?
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LeoBloom, I am located in Europe and already 5-6 years buying stuff on eBay US. Never had a problem, only maybe 1-2 times from 50 item was lost - but USPS insurance covered it. And I bought my Droid Pro on eBay also, 3 weeks ago. Arrived in 2 weeks. USPS Express is <10 days, Priority around 2 weeks. So no worries to sell abroad
Where can i buy one off contract? The tmo store will not sell it as of yet.
A few options:
- Non T-Mobile phone stores (In Houston, I tend to look for cell phone stores in Chinatown)
- Craigslist (Always ask for seller's ID due to the blocked IMEI scam on the rise)
- E-bay
- Market place on here (I think I've seen a few)
- Did you try calling T-Mobile directly? Also, just FYI, my friend bought her 16GB White T999 from a T-Mobile store here in Houston TX for full price (payment plan) about two weeks ago. So I'm not sure why (I'm assuming) you were told that T-Mobile store will not sell it yet or why the store wouldn't sell it to you.
belly1026 said:
A few options:
- Non T-Mobile phone stores (In Houston, I tend to look for cell phone stores in Chinatown)
- Craigslist (Always ask for seller's ID due to the blocked IMEI scam on the rise)
- E-bay
- Market place on here (I think I've seen a few)
- Did you try calling T-Mobile directly? Also, just FYI, my friend bought her 16GB White T999 from a T-Mobile store here in Houston TX for full price (payment plan) about two weeks ago. So I'm not sure why (I'm assuming) you were told that T-Mobile store will not sell it yet or why the store wouldn't sell it to you.
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please elaborate on the ID, you mean ask them for the IMEI?
I want to buy it off craigslist but it's obvious people stole bulks of these phones off somewhere.
I called the TMo stores directly, not the company. They all told me they have a memo from Tmo not to sell off contract s3's until further notice.
They are available for their value plans but you will be making payments on $599 plus tax.
.. via SGH-T999 by TT2
On craigslist make sure they give you the receipt is one way to go. Or have them meet you at a T-Mobile store (preferred) when you do the exchange. Kinda like buying a used car and meeting at the dmv to change title.
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EpicSurge said:
please elaborate on the ID, you mean ask them for the IMEI?
I want to buy it off craigslist but it's obvious people stole bulks of these phones off somewhere.
I called the TMo stores directly, not the company. They all told me they have a memo from Tmo not to sell off contract s3's until further notice.
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No. Not asking for the IMEI number because the IMEI will be on the phone and on the box.
What I mean was this: A lot of people buy their phones on Craigslist and the phone will be working for a few weeks or a month before it will eventually stop working. When you call it in, you will be told that the phone was reported stolen and as such, the IMEI was blocked, rendering the phone to be useless on T-Mobile's network. What had happened was, the person selling the phone on CL would have claimed the phone to be stolen and received a replacement phone through insurance. This way, he would have your money and still own a galaxy S3.
For example of what I think is an example of such scam, click me
So, when you do a transaction on CL, take a screen shot of the CL ad, do the transaction at a T-Mobile store. Always ask for a receipt or any kind of proof of purchase, and ask for their personal ID so you can track them down in case the phone was reported stolen so you can have support for when you go to the Police (if you choose to go to the police).
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No. Not asking for the IMEI number because the IMEI will be on the phone and on the box.
What I mean was this: A lot of people buy their phones on Craigslist and the phone will be working for a few weeks or a month before it will eventually stop working. When you call it in, you will be told that the phone was reported stolen and as such, the IMEI was blocked, rendering the phone to be useless on T-Mobile's network. What had happened was, the person selling the phone on CL would have claimed the phone to be stolen and received a replacement phone through insurance. This way, he would have your money and still own a galaxy S3.
For example of what I think is an example of such scam, click me
So, when you do a transaction on CL, take a screen shot of the CL ad, do the transaction at a T-Mobile store. Always ask for a receipt or any kind of proof of purchase, and ask for their personal ID so you can track them down in case the phone was reported stolen so you can have support for when you go to the Police (if you choose to go to the police).
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Thanks for the info. First time with tmo and was going to return my Costco s3 and try to get one on CL so Im not stuck on a contract. Now that I know this ill be more weary with phones off contract. Quick question. Besides getting their ID info which could be difficult to do, could you technically let T-Mobile know that you just bought it off craigslist and have the seller give his info to them which the seller would most likely do rather than give you his ID. Assuming ofcourse that he is also with using tmo service so his account can be noted.
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belly1026 said:
No. Not asking for the IMEI number because the IMEI will be on the phone and on the box.
What I mean was this: A lot of people buy their phones on Craigslist and the phone will be working for a few weeks or a month before it will eventually stop working. When you call it in, you will be told that the phone was reported stolen and as such, the IMEI was blocked, rendering the phone to be useless on T-Mobile's network. What had happened was, the person selling the phone on CL would have claimed the phone to be stolen and received a replacement phone through insurance. This way, he would have your money and still own a galaxy S3.
For example of what I think is an example of such scam, click me
So, when you do a transaction on CL, take a screen shot of the CL ad, do the transaction at a T-Mobile store. Always ask for a receipt or any kind of proof of purchase, and ask for their personal ID so you can track them down in case the phone was reported stolen so you can have support for when you go to the Police (if you choose to go to the police).
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Wow thats crazy.
Here's my short story.
The family decided to start a new 2 year contract and everyone got Galaxy S2's. This was like in April. Sold the S2 because I wanted the S3.
Started looking on Ebay, then Craigs. I checked on Craigs one day and found a pretty good deal for a sealed blue 16gb (though I had to give up the micro sim in the deal). Jumped on it that same day and met locally. I get to the spot and it turned out the seller is the older brother of this dude I knew in middle school/high school (they were both there at the spot). In my head I was like oh nice, this should be easy.
Opened it up on the spot, paid the guy, and left.
I feel pretty lucky for that to happen. I mean, of all chances I was able to meet up with someone on Craigs that I know.
But hearing these stories of people scamming people through IMEI is crazy.
EpicSurge said:
Where can i buy one off contract? The tmo store will not sell it as of yet.
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I bought mine from through mytmobile it gave me no problems buying it at full retail... I am on a grandfathered even more + plan though, not sure if that changes anything though
T-Mobile stores won't sell them off contract? I bought mine full retail at a factory T-Mobile store almost 2 weeks ago. No issues what-so-ever.
Radioshack and calling T-Mobile (You have to be a client)
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I bought mine off contract at T-Mobile store the first day it came out. I have the prepaid 30 bucks plan with the 100 min and 5 gigs of internet at 4g
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wailord said:
Newegg has the 16gb unlocked for $600 right now:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176350
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176348
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That's the international version. You won't get 4g on T-Mobile with that phone
Hi!
I am from India. I've been wanting to buy the Note 3. Recently I came across this seller on eBay who is selling Note 3 phones for almost 25% less! He says that he imports the phones directly from Vietnam and so he can afford that discount. He also offered an additional 10% discount, if I don't purchase via eBay and deal directly with him. For that, I'll have to first deposit the money in his bank account and he would then order it from Vietnam, which would directly reach me in 4-5 days.
I'm unable to understand this whole process. Can it be true? Samsung Galaxy Note 3 phone at 25% off?! Just because he's importing it from Vietnam.
He said that I'll get company warranty, the box will be seal packed, he'll replace or refund within 7 days and the phone is the Indian version. So I would get the updates also.
What should I do? It is a steal deal for sure. But is it trustworthy? Also, is the quality of phones manufactured in Vietnam as good as the Korean make? Please help!
Definitely not trustworthy! Why would a seller ask you to deposit money into his bank account first? And even if it were delivered to you, it might be a clone
N9005 NH1 32GB Stock debloated rooted ROM
Please deposit some money in my bank account, and I'll send you a phone. Yours sincerely, Mr. Complete Stranger.
You wouldn't do that, would you? So why even contemplate doing it with this guy??
davemihir said:
Hi!
I am from India. I've been wanting to buy the Note 3. Recently I came across this seller on eBay who is selling Note 3 phones for almost 25% less! He says that he imports the phones directly from Vietnam and so he can afford that discount. He also offered an additional 10% discount, if I don't purchase via eBay and deal directly with him. For that, I'll have to first deposit the money in his bank account and he would then order it from Vietnam, which would directly reach me in 4-5 days.
I'm unable to understand this whole process. Can it be true? Samsung Galaxy Note 3 phone at 25% off?! Just because he's importing it from Vietnam.
He said that I'll get company warranty, the box will be seal packed, he'll replace or refund within 7 days and the phone is the Indian version. So I would get the updates also.
What should I do? It is a steal deal for sure. But is it trustworthy? Also, is the quality of phones manufactured in Vietnam as good as the Korean make? Please help!
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If it sounds to good to be true, might be a scam ino. In my country, this is one of the most recognized way to scam people.
Sounds like a classical scam to me. Don't risk it.
If you do go ahead, maybe you can consider donating to my Nigerian brother's account. He's a prince, but can't withdraw funds until his account is activated from abroad
great to see helpful responses
hi people!
many many thanks for your responses. indeed, few of them made me look stupid. but then that's cool. how else would i learn if it were not for good folks like you all.
btw, for the concerned ones, i've not done any transaction yet and i don't plan to do it either! what's more - the listing was removed or taken off the very next day. quite surprising.
:good:
thanks again!
mihir.
Good. It was definitely dodgy.
Personally, for anything that costs as much as a Note 3 or similar, I'd never, ever buy over the net. Hands on is never 100% foolproof, but the odds are way better than buying blind.
Having been on Samsung for a number of years, I'm considering a non-Samsung phone for my next purchase. My Note 4 is doing so well right now, not sure why I"m even thinking of moving.
At any rate I'm thinking about the V20. I wish it were 6GB.
So, I contacted LG via chat on their site to ask about return policies, and they said "Check with your vendor". I am interested in the 996 (I may want to change carriers), and so need to purchase from other than AT&T. I told them I was planning on purchase from their web site. The chat agent had no clue.
Any suggestions/knowledge on where to purchase the US996 and what eval/return policies are out there?
Well, I have found out a little (for anyone else that interests).
Apparently Bestbuy doesn't even sell the 996.
Newegg does not take returns for refunds on the phone.
I have no idea what Amazon does. Can't find any info online.
BandH Photo has a 30 day return policy for full refund.
If I didn't want the 996, I could get one with a 2 week return policy (but $35 restock fee ) from a local AT&T store (certified retailer).