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Quote from Ron Rule on twitter:
"How is it more 'convenient' to start an app, pick a card, enter PIN, then confirm vs. just swiping a credit card?"
You've got to admit he's got a point! Sometimes phones just aren't the best way to do things. I recently got my boarding card for a flight sent to my mobile as an MMS and it was a pain. It was a good way to show off my lovely SGS2 though! However next time I'm sticking to good old paper next time.
it's not as simple as just swiping a credit card, you have to take your wallet out of your pants and fumble around for your card. it's still probably faster than nfc still but the point of nfc imo is that if you have like a huge stack of cards like credit cards and gift cards, they're all just on your phone.
you wouldn't have to carry around all your cards on the off chance that you might want to use it that day. if you want to use your subway's gift card, it's already on your phone and you don't have to run home and get it
At least here in Croatia debit cards require a swiping, then have to be inserted into a machine and then you input a pin, wait a good 5~10 seconds for a confromation and you're done.
Credit cards require you to swipe the card and wait for the machine to print out a reciept that you have to sign.
So NFC makes a lot sense to me.
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it's not as simple as just swiping a credit card, you have to take your wallet out of your pants and fumble around for your card. it's still probably faster than nfc still but the point of nfc imo is that if you have like a huge stack of cards like credit cards and gift cards, they're all just on your phone.
you wouldn't have to carry around all your cards on the off chance that you might want to use it that day. if you want to use your subway's gift card, it's already on your phone and you don't have to run home and get it
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Most people have 1 card, some more.
It takes MUCH less place having cards, and if you can't take your card out properly, you need brain surgery or something.
For me this is just another marketing trick, like 3D.
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Most people have 1 card, some more.
It takes MUCH less place having cards, and if you can't take your card out properly, you need brain surgery or something.
For me this is just another marketing trick, like 3D.
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i'm just going by the nfc video that engadget showed before, where it had not just your credit card but restaurant and store gift cards. if you don't use gift cards then this is irrelevant to you
the point is that nfc isn't just used for credit cards. for example it was also used to check into google i/o
Personally I don't trust the technology enough to entrust it with my credit and debit card details.
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Personally I don't trust the technology enough to entrust it with my credit and debit card details.
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+1 for now
However I won't deny the fact that having a phone with this feature which I won't use often or just incase IS better than having a phone without it.
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Its not just about paying for things either, you could have a train ticket on your phone linked to foursquare and when you tap to go through the barriers it checks you in at that location automatically.
Or being at places where areas or stands could have nfc so people can get more information like having one at a restaurant automatically puts the name, number and menu on your phone.
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nfc is going to come with next batch of s2 ?
i hav checked samsung's official website and it does not mention nfc anywhere..jst want to know if except korea any other has got nfc ? Like UK,etc...i also read that micro sd's are being made wid nfc support but they dont work in a metal tray.So guessing nfc will be added in our sim's by our respective carriers in the future if at all needed..i mean replace our old sim wid nfc included sim.Please correct me if im wrong,im jst pointing out that nfc takes a very small place and it can be placed even in a sim in near future.So not having nfc must not be an issue UNLESS IF SAMSUNG BRINGS NFC ON THERE NEXT OR 3RD BATCH OF S2 TO INDIA..early owners will be a whole lot of disappointd if sammy does so.anyway i doubt any country would get it 1st of all except korea ofcourse.
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it's not as simple as just swiping a credit card, you have to take your wallet out of your pants and fumble around for your card. it's still probably faster than nfc still but the point of nfc imo is that if you have like a huge stack of cards like credit cards and gift cards, they're all just on your phone.
you wouldn't have to carry around all your cards on the off chance that you might want to use it that day. if you want to use your subway's gift card, it's already on your phone and you don't have to run home and get it
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They already have keychain quick devices that can load all your credit cards onto, and they are free.
Moandal said:
Quote from Ron Rule on twitter:
"How is it more 'convenient' to start an app, pick a card, enter PIN, then confirm vs. just swiping a credit card?"
You've got to admit he's got a point! Sometimes phones just aren't the best way to do things. I recently got my boarding card for a flight sent to my mobile as an MMS and it was a pain. It was a good way to show off my lovely SGS2 though! However next time I'm sticking to good old paper next time.
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Wouldn't it also be an identity theft's dream come true. Your phone #s, social media info, credit card info, all located in one device. Also don't forget what do you do if your phone dies and you need to make a purchase? Or if you drop your phone? Or it gets stolen? Or buy a new phone (have to resync all that crap again)? So it isn't going to completely replace your credit card. Also for the guy that so fumble for your wallet. I guess your phone is in hand 24/7?
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Wouldn't it also be an identity theft's dream come true. Your phone #s, social media info, credit card info, all located in one device. Also don't forget what do you do if your phone dies and you need to make a purchase? Or if you drop your phone? Or it gets stolen? Or buy a new phone (have to resync all that crap again)? So it isn't going to completely replace your credit card. Also for the guy that so fumble for your wallet. I guess your phone is in hand 24/7?
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Actually I was wondering that the other day.
But I think it's worth having seeing as most of us have our hands in our phones a lot of the time, so of course in time, it'll probably become natural to those who use it.
I think that they need is a screen that can take a finger print and therefore NFC is only enabled when that certain fingerprint is on the screen. Sounds a bit far fetched but what are the bets that'll be implemented on phones in a year or two? There's only so many cores you can stick in one CPU
What everyone seems to be missing is that embedded NFC transactions won't just replace the swiping of a credit card, its able to do a lot more to change the way consumers shop and make transactions.
Let alone the multitude of other uses for NFC. People will start to use it for more than shopping as the technology becomes more widespread. Developers just need more incentive to be creative and really unlock it's potential.
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Intratech said:
Personally I don't trust the technology enough to entrust it with my credit and debit card details.
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It wouldn't be the first time someone has distrusted a new technology because they don't understand it. No offense. I'm sure companies will start public awareness campaigns to quell this.
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It's another android system waiting to be hacked, bigtime.
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It's another android system waiting to be hacked, bigtime.
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Please, more FUD
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i'm studying electrical and electronic engineering and i'm sure sooner hackers will try hack the NFC to steal credit card details. But NFC is good for health monitoring in the future.
I'm quite sick and tired of taking out my card out of my wallet every time I get on and get off a public transport, its so much hassle.
I would prefer to just scan the phone one one of those receivers since I always have my phone out on the public transport anyway.
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I would prefer to just scan the phone one one of those receivers since I always have my phone out on the public transport anyway.
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I noticed in that google nfc video that you still have to sign your signature on the receiver, kinda a let down imo as paying at the pumps or shopping online you don't need any signature.
For everyone who was locked out try to provision your card again. Did mine and its working. Still says unsupported device but I just added funds and bought something.
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I just went in again, and it reprovisioned and allowed me back into my card! I'm adding funds and I'm off to the races. I really wish they'd allow me to add my regular credit card. Hopefully that is on the way, but this is a step in the right direction!
I just up dated from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3 and i just installed the apk for it and sure enough it just started working with out having to do anything. I do agree that i wish i could just put my card on it right now but i know that there are to many banks and credit unions that are out there, it would just take to long. How ever i do know that my credit union is working to get their debit cards setup with the nfc in them but its going to take a while, but when they get it in there cards then they be getting with google to get their self's on google wallet.
I was at the AT&T store to pick up a new micro simcard for my new N4. The rep was about to give me the simcard when he suddenly asked if I had NFC. I said yes and he went and got a different card muttering something about extra security for Isis.
Later, I tried to set up Wallet but it just hung during initialization. When I took the simcard out, Wallet initialized fine. Put it back in, kaput.
Is AT&T actively disabling Wallet since they are promoting Isis or is it an inadvertant incompatibility. I plan to go back and demand a non-Isis card.
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I was at the AT&T store to pick up a new micro simcard for my new N4. The rep was about to give me the simcard when he suddenly asked if I had NFC. I said yes and he went and got a different card muttering something about extra security for Isis.
Later, I tried to set up Wallet but it just hung during initialization. When I took the simcard out, Wallet initialized fine. Put it back in, kaput.
Is AT&T actively disabling Wallet since they are promoting Isis or is it an inadvertant incompatibility. I plan to go back and demand a non-Isis card.
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Whoa, that would be completely ridiculous. I took the micro SIM from my HTC One X, put it in my Nexus 4 and Wallet authorized fine (haven't used it yet). All it says is that I'm using an unsupported device because of root, but that doesn't change the functionality.
I had to go to at&t for a sim card as well however wallet works great for me. I use it every time I go grocery shopping.
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Whoa, that would be completely ridiculous. I took the micro SIM from my HTC One X, put it in my Nexus 4 and Wallet authorized fine (haven't used it yet). All it says is that I'm using an unsupported device because of root, but that doesn't change the functionality.
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I did same here and also could use wallet
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I was really surprised that there really are two different sims now. I forgot to mention that I'm in Austin, one of two cities testing out Isis and there is a major push in the AT&T store for it.
I'll report back when I get my hands on the regular sim.
Before I start my rant, why don't you just cut the old one to size?
Funny how AT&T is shooting itself in the foot, again and again.
For dumbphones:
The dumbphone crowd have little loyalty towards att (mostly CDMA or MVNO). other than that, they usually have cheaper plans.
For iphones (neither smart nor dumb) :
The iphone crowd are leaving left and right (mostly to MVNOs), and now with the unlocking, and the new compatible towers, people are heading to T-Mobile.
For android phones:
Their slow updates and bloatware, causes people to dislike buying from them. The fact that they just quit updating, causes people to leave completely.
Now they are messing with the nexus? A phone that just needs service, not support, from them?
Good thing I threw my number at Google. I change providers any time I feel like it. Right now I'm thinking about trying net 10 <att>
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I was in the area and thought I might as well get a new one. It's free and only took a few minutes. In hindsight, I should have just cut it and have a working Wallet.
what is the word on this? it is hard to find information. wallet was working fine on my gnex. i cut down the sim and slapped it in my nexus 4 and wallet doesn't work now. if at&t is disabling software on my phone that isn't harming them in any way, we should be writing letters to attorney generals and calling for arbitration.
After many months of no Wallet access, I decided to fire up the app again and this time everything is working well! I don't know when but Google must have either found a way around the ISIS sim card or fixed a bug. Hard to say at this point if AT&T was actively breaking the N4 NFC. Whatever it was, it's now working beautifully!
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After many months of no Wallet access, I decided to fire up the app again and this time everything is working well! I don't know when but Google must have either found a way around the ISIS sim card or fixed a bug. Hard to say at this point if AT&T was actively breaking the N4 NFC. Whatever it was, it's now working beautifully!
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I've never had a problem with Google wallet on AT&T. But I do believe when the phone first came out an update to the app was needed to get it to work on any network. The update came out around the time of your first post. Here is an interesting article on Google Wallet and Verizon as Verizon does actively block it on their network.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...why-the-carrier-is-still-allowed-to-block-it/
Hi looking at all the posts about Knox it's making me wonder if we can use cracked apps on the note 3 if someone can help me out that would be great also does Knox have to be installed because it just sounds like more problems than being helpful??
yes you can. Knox is like a safe, if you take pictures or use any Knox apps in Knox mode they stay in knox . if you come out of Knox mode you cannot view them.
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Jmoney707 said:
Hi looking at all the posts about Knox it's making me wonder if we can use cracked apps on the note 3 if someone can help me out that would be great also does Knox have to be installed because it just sounds like more problems than being helpful??
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Sorry about that will do thank you
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I may be wrong, but he might be talking about modified apps (such as how a google wallet app was needed on non-supported phones), not illegal stuff.
I hate when someone won't pay the (few) dollar(s) to get an app, but will buy an expensive phone. Support developers a**hole
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Ya, especially with a username like Jmoney. Wth.
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mircury said:
Ya, especially with a username like Jmoney. Wth.
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Probably some kid and his dad won't let him use his credit card.
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can we not use this as a basher thread?
What is done is done.
I hate when someone won't pay the (few) dollar(s) to get an app, but will buy an expensive phone.
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I am not willing to pay anything before I know that the software will be bugfree and usable. It's kinda stupid to buy dozens of programs which are not working at all. And fifteen minutes payback is quite a little time to see if the program is what you think it would be. And even if it's only few euros, .. if you are forced to many.. that will be quite a lot of money.
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I am not willing to pay anything before I know that the software will be bugfree and usable. It's kinda stupid to buy dozens of programs which are not working at all. And fifteen minutes payback is quite a little time to see if the program is what you think it would be. And even if it's only few euros, .. if you are forced to many.. that will be quite a lot of money.
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That's why there's a refund period. And most developers extend that period beyond what the play store gives.
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Dear Americans, we use DEBIT cards. Google Wallet only supports Credit Cards. To get a credit card here you need to have a stable income of over 20.000 a year, solid job (no freelance) and be over 21. Which rules out 80% of the users.
Most of the 750 million people in Europe can't even GET a credit card.
So it's not all cheap, greedy people. Keep your prejudice to yourself.
Oh yes, we have prepaid credit cards: They don't support refunds. So we have to find alternative means to test an app.
There, welcome to the rest of the world.
Now, I for one would also like to know if it works. Simply because I use a few apps that are only available for US users. (Stop being so selfish as a market. Really.)
ShadowLea said:
Dear Americans, we use DEBIT cards. Google Wallet only supports Credit Cards. To get a credit card here you need to have a stable income of over 20.000 a year, solid job (no freelance) and be over 21. Which rules out 80% of the users.
Most of the 750 million people in Europe can't even GET a credit card.
So it's not all cheap, greedy people. Keep your prejudice to yourself.
Oh yes, we have prepaid credit cards: They don't support refunds. So we have to find alternative means to test an app.
There, welcome to the rest of the world.
Now, I for one would also like to know if it works. Simply because I use a few apps that are only available for US users. (Stop being so selfish as a market. Really.)
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Everyone is an individual. I would agree that more open mindedness is necessary.
ShadowLea said:
Dear Americans, we use DEBIT cards. Google Wallet only supports Credit Cards. To get a credit card here you need to have a stable income of over 20.000 a year, solid job (no freelance) and be over 21. Which rules out 80% of the users.
Most of the 750 million people in Europe can't even GET a credit card.
So it's not all cheap, greedy people. Keep your prejudice to yourself.
Oh yes, we have prepaid credit cards: They don't support refunds. So we have to find alternative means to test an app.
There, welcome to the rest of the world.
Now, I for one would also like to know if it works. Simply because I use a few apps that are only available for US users. (Stop being so selfish as a market. Really.)
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I use my debit card with Google Wallet without issue.
ShadowLea said:
Dear Americans, we use DEBIT cards. Google Wallet only supports Credit Cards. To get a credit card here you need to have a stable income of over 20.000 a year, solid job (no freelance) and be over 21. Which rules out 80% of the users.
Most of the 750 million people in Europe can't even GET a credit card.
So it's not all cheap, greedy people. Keep your prejudice to yourself.
Oh yes, we have prepaid credit cards: They don't support refunds. So we have to find alternative means to test an app.
There, welcome to the rest of the world.
Now, I for one would also like to know if it works. Simply because I use a few apps that are only available for US users. (Stop being so selfish as a market. Really.)
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A lot of Americans use debit cards on the Play Store just fine. How? Most any debit card attached to a bank account can also be run as a credit card. We call them "check cards" when they have a credit card company logo and can be run as either. The difference? Running as credit has no terminal fee or minimum purchase (as part of the credit card merchant's agreement), does not require a PIN, works in more places, but often requires a signature, withdraws from your bank/checking account (no credit line), and does not have the same consumer protections (harder to get your money back if stolen or misused). Also, many places only take one payment type or the other (credit or debit) so a check card conveniently works at both.
Most anyone with a bank account can get a check card even if they don't qualify for credit. Is it really so different there?
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I use my debit card with Google Wallet without issue.
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I tried that, no such luck. Our cards only have the account number (9 digits), card number(3 digits) and nothing else. I HAVE no number to fill in to Google Wallet.
Tried using my phone plan, but it asks for a CreditCard Number. Which I don't have. (Hah, good luck getting T-Mobile to issue me a Credit Card. :laugh
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A lot of Americans use debit cards on the Play Store just fine. How? Most any debit card attached to a bank account can also be run as a credit card. We call them "check cards" when they have a credit card company logo and can be run as either. The difference? Running as credit has no terminal fee or minimum purchase (as part of the credit card merchant's agreement), does not require a PIN, works in more places, but often requires a signature, withdraws from your bank/checking account (no credit line), and does not have the same consumer protections (harder to get your money back if stolen or misused). Also, many places only take one payment type or the other (credit or debit) so a check card conveniently works at both.
Most anyone with a bank account can get a check card even if they don't qualify for credit. Is it really so different there?
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That would be very useful. But no, we don't have those. I'm not sure our banks even know of the concept.
We have a Debit card with a 4 digit pin. This is direct withdraw. Maestro, it's called.
For Credit Cards we need to get an additional, paid service (50 bucks a year, I believe. and that's just for the registration, you also need to pay for the card.) with Visa, MasterCard or similar, detached services. They're not directly part of the bankservice.
For instance, I have an account with ABN AMRO. If I wanted to get a credit card, I'd have to apply to VISA or ABN Gold (which then gets me a VISA card. This type of account you can only get if you have a balance of over 50.000 on the account. Which'll never happen. I'm a graphic designer.)
You can't actually pay with a credit card in the shops here. Well, you can, but doing so requires filling out a (paper!)cheque, 25 Euro administration fee and a transaction time of a week. In every shop. For every purchase. And even then 80% of the shops refuse it as a method of payment.
The advantage is that if we ever loose our card (or accidentally put the bill unshredded in the paper bin), people can't empty our accounts without the pin number; with a credit card only the cardnumber is sufficient for payment. (The security code is on the back of a credit card...)
That said, I do have a Prepaid 3V VISA card (It's an alarming shade of pink and can only be charged (pre-charged, it works like a prepaid SIM) up to a specific amount per month, but for Google Play it works well enough. Renting a car, however, has to be done over the course of 4 months.) For the apps I do consider worth the payment. (Apex, Tapatalk, Moonreader, etc.)
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I tried that, no such luck. Our cards only have the account number (9 digits), card number(3 digits) and nothing else. I HAVE no number to fill in to Google Wallet.
Tried using my phone plan, but it asks for a CreditCard Number. Which I don't have. (Hah, good luck getting T-Mobile to issue me a Credit Card. :laugh
That would be very useful. But no, we don't have those. I'm not sure our banks even know of the concept.
We have a Debit card with a 4 digit pin. This is direct withdraw. Maestro, it's called.
For Credit Cards we need to get an additional, paid service (50 bucks a year, I believe. and that's just for the registration, you also need to pay for the card.) with Visa, MasterCard or similar, detached services. They're not directly part of the bankservice.
For instance, I have an account with ABN AMRO. If I wanted to get a credit card, I'd have to apply to VISA or ABN Gold (which then gets me a VISA card. This type of account you can only get if you have a balance of over 50.000 on the account. Which'll never happen. I'm a graphic designer.)
You can't actually pay with a credit card in the shops here. Well, you can, but doing so requires filling out a (paper!)cheque, 25 Euro administration fee and a transaction time of a week. In every shop. For every purchase. And even then 80% of the shops refuse it as a method of payment.
The advantage is that if we ever loose our card (or accidentally put the bill unshredded in the paper bin), people can't empty our accounts without the pin number; with a credit card only the cardnumber is sufficient for payment. (The security code is on the back of a credit card...)
That said, I do have a Prepaid 3V VISA card (It's an alarming shade of pink and can only be charged (pre-charged, it works like a prepaid SIM) up to a specific amount per month, but for Google Play it works well enough. Renting a car, however, has to be done over the course of 4 months.) For the apps I do consider worth the payment. (Apex, Tapatalk, Moonreader, etc.)
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Switch banks. All debit cards have a 16 digit card number.
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Switch banks. All debit cards have a 16 digit card number.
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Not in Europe, they don't.
Our cardnumber isn't the same as the one they use in the US. It's literally just the number of the card, so when you open an account, you always get 001.
It's not personalized.
Open the account, you get:
Account 112234567, Card 001.
Get a new one card after it expires, is lost or stolen, it's:
Account 112234567, Card 002.
Payment over the internet is done via iDeal or a similar service, which requires a cardreader and works withdynamic codes.
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Not in Europe, they don't.
Our cardnumber isn't the same as the one they use in the US. It's literally just the number of the card, so when you open an account, you always get 001.
It's not personalized.
Open the account, you get:
Account 112234567, Card 001.
Get a new one card after it expires, is lost or stolen, it's:
Account 112234567, Card 002.
Payment over the internet is done via iDeal or a similar service, which requires a cardreader and works withdynamic codes.
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I see. Hmmm good luck with that one.
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I see. Hmmm good luck with that one.
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Thanks. Found a workaround (prepaid card), but it's not ideal. (refund costs 10 bucks per refund. Not exactly oleasant for a 0.70 cent app... :laugh
For now we'll just have to wait for Google to get their heads out of their arses, stop moaning about piracy and start realize what the cause of it is. Until then 750 million people will just have to keep cracking.
So I had my Nexus 6 delivered today, the open version ordered from Google. Went in to Verizon to have them switch over my sim (I had a larger sim with my LG G3, so had to get a smaller sim), and after 45 minutes of back and forth, they refused to put the device on their network because as they say "We have a Nexus 6 device already on our network, so you can purchase it from us". That was my official answer given to me from them. We tried two different technicians, managers, etc, and they downright refused.
I'm over this crap with them, spent my entire lunch hour doing this, dealing with getting the device after it wasn't able to be delivered to my address, multiple trips to the local fedex office.. The second I can cancel my account with them, I'm out.
If you have Verizon and want to order one of these, you'll have to order their blue piece of crap (I wanted the white version) and the only phone on for any of the networks that wont work elsewhere.
Mario
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So I had my Nexus 6 delivered today, the open version ordered from Google. Went in to Verizon to have them switch over my sim (I had a larger sim with my LG G3, so had to get a smaller sim), and after 45 minutes of back and forth, they refused to put the device on their network because as they say "We have a Nexus 6 device already on our network, so you can purchase it from us". That was my official answer given to me from them. We tried two different technicians, managers, etc, and they downright refused.
I'm over this crap with them, spent my entire lunch hour doing this, dealing with getting the device after it wasn't able to be delivered to my address, multiple trips to the local fedex office.. The second I can cancel my account with them, I'm out.
If you have Verizon and want to order one of these, you'll have to order their blue piece of crap (I wanted the white version) and the only phone on for any of the networks that wont work elsewhere.
Mario
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well, there are many many many people using a google play store version n6 on verizon, without issue. i suggest you talk to reps in a different store.
desantim said:
So I had my Nexus 6 delivered today, the open version ordered from Google. Went in to Verizon to have them switch over my sim (I had a larger sim with my LG G3, so had to get a smaller sim), and after 45 minutes of back and forth, they refused to put the device on their network because as they say "We have a Nexus 6 device already on our network, so you can purchase it from us". That was my official answer given to me from them. We tried two different technicians, managers, etc, and they downright refused.
I'm over this crap with them, spent my entire lunch hour doing this, dealing with getting the device after it wasn't able to be delivered to my address, multiple trips to the local fedex office.. The second I can cancel my account with them, I'm out.
If you have Verizon and want to order one of these, you'll have to order their blue piece of crap (I wanted the white version) and the only phone on for any of the networks that wont work elsewhere.
Mario
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You can get it working. Read this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-verizon-nano-sim-nexus-6-t2944308
My personal experience here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57564205&postcount=99
I guess things are hit or miss at Verizon. When the store couldn't help me I had them call Technical Support, tech support assigned a nano sim from the store to a dummy IMEI number and activated it on my account. Took them 10 minutes to do what the store couldn't figure out in an hour. They have dummy IMEI's, just have to reach someone that knows what they are doing...
desantim said:
So I had my Nexus 6 delivered today, the open version ordered from Google. Went in to Verizon to have them switch over my sim (I had a larger sim with my LG G3, so had to get a smaller sim), and after 45 minutes of back and forth, they refused to put the device on their network because as they say "We have a Nexus 6 device already on our network, so you can purchase it from us". That was my official answer given to me from them. We tried two different technicians, managers, etc, and they downright refused.
I'm over this crap with them, spent my entire lunch hour doing this, dealing with getting the device after it wasn't able to be delivered to my address, multiple trips to the local fedex office.. The second I can cancel my account with them, I'm out.
If you have Verizon and want to order one of these, you'll have to order their blue piece of crap (I wanted the white version) and the only phone on for any of the networks that wont work elsewhere.
Mario
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there are a gazillion post on this topic. You can cut down your G3's SIM card and use it - SIM cutters are cheap on Amazon.
Or you can order a nano SIM card from Verizon - you can tell them you are buying a used S6 and they will mail you one. Then when it arrives, all you need is the IMEI of a Verizon Android device that takes a nano SIM card and you can have a chat rep activate the nano SIM they send you using that IMEI. You can usually find someone who posted a picture of a box with an IMEI on it - Moto X will work as will S6, M8, M9, but not iPhones, those are different nano SIMs.
Or if you know anyone on Verizon who has an Android that uses a nano SIM card, you can suspend their line w/o billing temporarily to free up their phone to use it to activate the nano SIM on your line. Then when you have done that, you pop the nano SIM in your N6 and then they can put their SIM card back in their device and unsuspend their line.
I always have two Verizon sim cards stored in case the next phone I get uses a different sim card size. They're easy to get by contacting a VZW rep or ordering one online from some seller for cheap. Activating them through chat is easy. You can also activate it yourself by switching your device through My Verizon, but since the Google Play version isn't a Verizon IMEI, that option won't work. I avoid having to go deal with VZW reps in person
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Just cut that sim - win!
JulesJam said:
there are a gazillion post on this topic. You can cut down your G3's SIM card and use it - SIM cutters are cheap on Amazon.
Or you can order a nano SIM card from Verizon - you can tell them you are buying a used S6 and they will mail you one. Then when it arrives, all you need is the IMEI of a Verizon Android device that takes a nano SIM card and you can have a chat rep activate the nano SIM they send you using that IMEI. You can usually find someone who posted a picture of a box with an IMEI on it - Moto X will work as will S6, M8, M9, but not iPhones, those are different nano SIMs.
Or if you know anyone on Verizon who has an Android that uses a nano SIM card, you can suspend their line w/o billing temporarily to free up their phone to use it to activate the nano SIM on your line. Then when you have done that, you pop the nano SIM in your N6 and then they can put their SIM card back in their device and unsuspend their line.
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I'd have to second this. I had a 2014 Moto X and just swapped the SIM with no issues. However, I think they easiest thing for you to do would be to order a cheap SIM cutter. Amazon.com - Aerb SIM Cutter
You could have saved yourself time and frustration by simply reading one of the dozens of threads that already explain this very issue. Nice to have another Verizon thread though /s
akellar said:
You could have saved yourself time and frustration by simply reading one of the dozens of threads that already explain this very issue. Nice to have another Verizon thread though /s
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Equally as helpful your response I presume, original as it may be But I appreciate your input all the same being that it's a public forum and all.
Yes you can cut the micro sim to nano sim as many people here said, but if i was you i cut verizon first for that kind of service. dont' know about other carriers, but with ATT the last few months i can just drop in their store and changed sim 3 times (2 for me and one for my brother) as i changed phone from iphone to inew v8 to oneplus and last week to nexus. Never has a problem and no charge. In and out in about 15 min for them to activate the imei in their system with new sim
I have sprint. I went into a sprint store with a n6 I ordered from Motorola directly. They got a nano Sim, activated my device and didn't even charge me a penny. I had Verizon but canceled both lines I had with them because of customer service. I broke contracts on both lines.
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Equally as helpful your response I presume, original as it may be But I appreciate your input all the same being that it's a public forum and all.
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I am not helping out the snarky other member who annoyed you, but you DID break rule #1 of XDA (and no, it's not "don't talk about xda" lol)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting or creating a new thread. Whether you have a question or just something new to share, it's very likely that someone has already asked that question or shared that news.
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The easiest thing to do when a Sim card is too big is.....? That's right, cut it. I did that with many phones. Had the note 4 and wanted to switch to a white 64gb nexus 6 from the play store and just popped in the Sim from my Note 4 and it worked without having to do anything. Yes on the my Verizon mobile app it says "non Verizon device" and that alters my life in exactly zero ways.
desantim said:
So I had my Nexus 6 delivered today, the open version ordered from Google. Went in to Verizon to have them switch over my sim (I had a larger sim with my LG G3, so had to get a smaller sim), and after 45 minutes of back and forth, they refused to put the device on their network because as they say "We have a Nexus 6 device already on our network, so you can purchase it from us". That was my official answer given to me from them. We tried two different technicians, managers, etc, and they downright refused.
I'm over this crap with them, spent my entire lunch hour doing this, dealing with getting the device after it wasn't able to be delivered to my address, multiple trips to the local fedex office.. The second I can cancel my account with them, I'm out.
If you have Verizon and want to order one of these, you'll have to order their blue piece of crap (I wanted the white version) and the only phone on for any of the networks that wont work elsewhere.
Mario
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Going in to a store to have them change out your sim card is a waste of time. Even if you happen to have a sane service provider who won't give you a hard time. Why? Because it is a waste of time. If you don't have a drywall knife (some call them "box cutters" or "utility knives"), go to home depot and buy one, then trim the plastic off from around the contact pad until it fits the phone. (note: take off multiple THIN slices so you don't stress the chip).
Nickchapstick said:
The easiest thing to do when a Sim card is too big is.....? That's right, cut it. I did that with many phones. Had the note 4 and wanted to switch to a white 64gb nexus 6 from the play store and just popped in the Sim from my Note 4 and it worked without having to do anything. Yes on the my Verizon mobile app it says "non Verizon device" and that alters my life in exactly zero ways.
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This. And an everyday, household scissors works just fine.
It's all just an illusion