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screen border/banding that affects the atrix?

noticed today that on dark colors a thin gray border will appear all around the screen. it is quite annoying....and affects anything displayed on the atrix...well mine at least...and at least a few others too im sure...
i first noticed it with the menu buttons on opera mobile...thought it wad a design element but rather it is a display limitation.
attached is a darkish background downloaded from google images. view and zoom the picture to fill the entire screen. on my atrix the gray border is as clear as day...how bout for you guys?
edit: this isnt backlight bleed nor qhd compatibility issues...it is an actual thin gray line that appears on the screen.

Nope. Just you.
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thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.

pukemon said:
Nope. Just you.
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No. Its not just him. There was a thread about this before. I for one have the issue but don't notice it 99% of the time.
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ethantarheels123 said:
thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.
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it isnt backlight bleed...it is an actual thin gray line that goes around the entire screen...but it only appears when theres a darkish color present at that location. when the background is pure 100pct black it doesnt show up though.
on my phone it is very apparent when viewing the attachment pic in the op and zooming in so that it fills the screen.

Well I'm glad to hear it's not just me. And yes, it's very noticeable and really distracting when I'm watching a video.

ethantarheels123 said:
thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.
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Try again.

I had the same issue with my Atrix. Went to an AT&T device support center and they swapped it out with a brand new Atrix and the new device does not have this issue. It seems the banding/border issue is affecting a small number of those devices.

I didn't have banding initially, but over time the problem seemed to become more apparent, especially after the gingerbread OTA.

silentecho13 said:
I didn't have banding initially, but over time the problem seemed to become more apparent, especially after the gingerbread OTA.
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Likewise
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Same here. I've never noticed it before but now that I'm running the cm7 pre beta it's quite obvious.
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datumdei said:
I had the same issue with my Atrix. Went to an AT&T device support center and they swapped it out with a brand new Atrix and the new device does not have this issue. It seems the banding/border issue is affecting a small number of those devices.
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how long did you own the atrix before you swapped it out? just wondering since this atrix is about half a year old now...

I just came here to ask about this... I've had my atrix for about 2 days and this is quite distracting.
I probably need to lock bootloader and unroot if I want to get a new phone right?

Here's a quick shot of it.

i just can see this bandings on ur photo with full brightness!
its not important! take it easy!
i think its because of LCD!

vinay427 said:
Same here. I've never noticed it before but now that I'm running the cm7 pre beta it's quite obvious.
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CM7 doesn't support qHD, might be why.

taitrt said:
Here's a quick shot of it.
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yes! that's the problem exactly...should spread that pic around so people are aware. look at the ghostly rectangle that is created...can see it clearly even on normal brightness. maybe you can find a non-affected atrix like datumdei did...

I would relate it to the gingerbread update. I didn't have it before in Froyo and I tried everything to replicate it, now I can also see it. They must've tune the colors, saturation and other settings because now I don't see the gradient banding in the calculator app and even the XDA app isn't that obvious anymore.
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taitrt said:
Here's a quick shot of it.
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Mine isn't that wide, only about 1/8th of an inch.
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Hey guys, i just got my Atrix yesterday and only notice this when the screen is grey. At first I thought it was screen burn-in from a static image, but after finding this page I feel better knowing its not just me.
Are there any other web pages that you have found related to this issue?
Also, could the android market update have caused this?
If you want to test to see if your phone is doing this, downlod dead pixel test from the android market and tap the screen until it turns grey.

White Line 'flashes' on N7 Screen

Hi,
Every now and again, in either game or browsing with Chrome, a white line flashes across the full width of the screen, doesn't happen very often but would you say this is a software or screen issue?
I also have a couple of pixels in the bottom left which I can only assume is dead pixels, but they only are visible when the background is black, so are they dead pixels or stuck pixels? I've tried one of those apps that supposedly fix the stuck pixels but they are still there.
Any thoughts?
Thanks

The flickering SHOULD be fixed in a firmware update. Regarding dead pixels, you should return it.
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Vsync isue?
I'm really curious what this is... it was described well in the general section by markfid like this:
I've also been seeing some issues with the screen, not sure how to explain them but it's like screen taring, that you see in games or like an old CRT monitor when it get's degaussed. It's a line from one side of the screen all the way over to the other side (Held in portrait, from left to right) for a fraction of a second. Very quick but when reading a book on a white background noticeable. At first I thought it was just my eyes getting tired, but it has happened 10 or 15 times so far (with ~5 hours of use).
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Jrockttu says:
I've seen that same screen tearing issue! I thought I was crazy because I've only seen it like 4 times, I think always on white screens. It happens really fast and is almost unnoticeable. I'm not sure whether it's a hardware issue or a software issue with the vertical sync in jelly bean
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Arthur Hucksake says:
I still can't get over the Tegra 3 flickering issues that are present, seen them on the Transformer and HTC One X before. Figured we'd be lucky to avoid that one
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All quotes are from the screen separation "fix" thread.
I'm seeing the same thing.. like when you overclock a gpu or like the vsync is off or something. I's gotta last 1/10th of a second, and on irc user "speechles" says he sees it most when scrolling text and the gpu can't keep up.
Anyway, you're not going insane. I see it too.

fattire said:
I'm really curious what this is... it was described well in the general section by markfid like this:
Jrockttu says:
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Arthur Hucksake says:
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All quotes are from the screen separation "fix" thread.
I'm seeing the same thing.. like when you overclock a gpu or like the vsync is off or something. I's gotta last 1/10th of a second, and on irc user "speechles" says he sees it most when scrolling text and the gpu can't keep up.
Anyway, you're not going insane. I see it too.
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Thanks, glad to see I'm not the only one... So going by the fact this is affecting a number of devices it might be a hardware issue?
I'm not sure about the pixels, there's probably 4-5 in a line and they go from dark to light from the top to bottom, basically a gradient but like I said they are only visible with a black screen... Might ring Google and see what they say, not sure if it's worth sending back...

I'm pretty sure I have what the OP first described too, but only when music is playing (either through speaker or headphone jack).
I already started the return process, but I'd like to know if this is software or a bad screen. I tried doing a factory reset, but the issue persists.
Maybe there's still hope for a software update.
I wonder if this issue is present in other roms.

thephased said:
I'm pretty sure I have what the OP first described too, but only when music is playing (either through speaker or headphone jack).
I already started the return process, but I'd like to know if this is software or a bad screen. I tried doing a factory reset, but the issue persists.
Maybe there's still hope for a software update.
I wonder if this issue is present in other roms.
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Its firmware related. Have patience for an update.
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theoneofgod said:
Its firmware related. Have patience for an update.
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I sure hope you're right. Seems like a relatively few amount of people have this line flashing/screen tearing problem compared to the number of people that are just experiencing flickering at low brightness.

Screen issue or is it just like this?

My Galaxy S4 screen is strange. The top of the phone seems to be lighter than the bottom. As in when im texting the and I turn the phone sideways the blue bar that is there is a lighter blue on the left than it is on the right. This annoys me to no end and I want to know if this is normal or not. I also notice this in a ton of other apps when in landscape and it has a bar. Like Youtube.

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My Galaxy S4 screen is strange. The top of the phone seems to be lighter than the bottom. As in when im texting the and I turn the phone sideways the blue bar that is there is a lighter blue on the left than it is on the right. This annoys me to no end and I want to know if this is normal or not. I also notice this in a ton of other apps when in landscape and it has a bar. Like Youtube.
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Hmm just checked for myself and don't notice it. Can u screenshot or perhaps snap a photo with a camera if ss doesn't reveal?

Take a screen ahot and flip the image chrck if it still look the same to you... if not then you have a hardware problem
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niceppl said:
Take a screen ahot and flip the image chrck if it still look the same to you... if not then you have a hardware problem
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it doenst look the same to me. This is my 3rd S4 already, The first one the charging port went, then the second had a dead pixel. Now this...

im terrified to send it back because they will send me an updated bootloader version back.... its not a bad issue the screen still works. its just really annoying. Custom roms and Kernels i will take over anything.

Easton999GS said:
im terrified to send it back because they will send me an updated bootloader version back.... its not a bad issue the screen still works. its just really annoying. Custom roms and Kernels i will take over anything.
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If I were you, I will go and get it exchanged even if it get you one with the new firmware. Rooting is less important than quality of the phone to me.
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sharpehenry said:
If I were you, I will go and get it exchanged even if it get you one with the new firmware. Rooting is less important than quality of the phone to me.
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Plus in time (not guaranteed) Usually there will be an exploit hack to get root. I'm sure someones working on something. Especially since some were able to keep root after updating

I can replicate the issue you are talking about in the messaging app. About an inch of the screen at the top is slightly darker. But only noticeable on certain colors. I tried all sorts of pictures and other things, I can only see it in the messaging all. The issue is there with all screen modes.
The S II had a very similar issue. There was a triangle of screen that was lighter than the rest, and under certain circumstances you could see black splotches. But both issues were only apparent when you worked hard to see it, but never under "normal" use.
From what I understand having a little inconsistency in AMOLED screens is unavoidable. I would rather have this issue than the washed out colors of an LCD screen, personally. I would wager the issue is probably there on every S4 if you look hard enough, it was on every S II I ever saw.
The only issue I saw that I felt was worth getting a new device was burn in. On the Captivate it happened after about 6 months, the S II about 9 months. I'm hoping that Trend (each phone lasting longer than previous gen until it burns in) continues with the Note, S III, Note II, on to the S4.
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This seems to be a common issue. I'm on my third s4.
Phone 1: vertical lines
Phone 2: pink tint at bottom (screen darker at the bottom)
Phone 3: pink tint at top (screen darker at the top)
You can try exchanging it but there's no guarantee you will get a better screen. In fact you may get a worse one.
The qc on these phones seem to be pretty awful.
If the problem isn't too bad I would just keep it and try to get used to it.
The galaxy s2 had an issue where the left side of the screen had a yellow tint compared to the right side. Samsung eventually came out with an update to fix this issue. Hopefully they do the same with this problem.

dwang said:
This seems to be a common issue. I'm on my third s4.
Phone 1: vertical lines
Phone 2: pink tint at bottom (screen darker at the bottom)
Phone 3: pink tint at top (screen darker at the top)
You can try exchanging it but there's no guarantee you will get a better screen. In fact you may get a worse one.
The qc on these phones seem to be pretty awful.
If the problem isn't too bad I would just keep it and try to get used to it.
The galaxy s2 had an issue where the left side of the screen had a yellow tint compared to the right side. Samsung eventually came out with an update to fix this issue. Hopefully they do the same with this problem.
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Touché - I'm on my FIFTH S4 already. I documented the 1st 3, but I've lost patience now... I don't know what to do further???
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4/304256-s4-screen-uniformity-issues.html

This has been common with quite a few of the phones I've had. It's more of a yellowish tint at the bottom. I read that its most likely the glue that they use and that it will correct itself with time. I just never waited long enough to see if that was the case and always exchanged them.
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where is your phone made from? mine is made in korea, it works perfectly. I heard the ones that are made elsewhere has lower build quality.

[Q] screen banding?

I just noticed horizontal screen banding on the top portion of the screen.
best recogniced in stock background pictures.
also, in phone dial screen and music app, settings, there's very noticable banding right under the blue separating line.
anyone else have this problem?

ILLHYHL said:
I just noticed horizontal screen banding on the top portion of the screen.
best recogniced in stock background pictures.
also, in phone dial screen and music app, settings, there's very noticable banding right under the blue separating line.
anyone else have this problem?
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Yes, I'm having the same issues when I see it on a grey screen. I'm going to end up bringing mine back and try another one. The first one had no banding but it had white lines going through the panel as you were looking at a grey screen. Hopefully I get one that has no issues.

No banding here, post better reproduction steps to get better feedback

What do you mean?
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The way I do it is that I download a light to dark grey picture and look at it in the gallery and make it full screen and I can see a different shade of grey line going across the phone.
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Also wanted to know if this happens with my issues can it be a software issue to where its not telling the screen the correct color that it should be or is it just a bad panel?
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I've noticed banding on mine as well using Lagom test screens. Took some pictures with comparisons to other screens.

well, i went back to the store and exchanged my g2 more than 5 times
all had bandings
i'm pretty sure they hate me there now lol
i guess i'll have to learn to live with it
sigh

I'm getting my LG G2 in a few days so it's this issue just how the phones screen is or is it something to return the phone if mine has it too
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i mean, you won't notice any bandings if you don't look really close enough
I have very, very sensitive eyes

Banding? Do you mean the little dots in rolls and columns all over the screen? It it's that then that normal.

I went to the lagom link posted above and saw none of the banding or apparent moire pattern of the screens posted above. However, on a white bacground i notice a very subtle banding of discoloration going across the screen horizontally in portrait orientation. It's subtle and a non-issue to me but I guess this might be what the OP is referring to.

xyltha said:
I went to the lagom link posted above and saw none of the banding or apparent moire pattern of the screens posted above. However, on a white bacground i notice a very subtle banding of discoloration going across the screen horizontally in portrait orientation. It's subtle and a non-issue to me but I guess this might be what the OP is referring to.
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Just to note, the moire is an effect from the camera not the screen.

Thanks for clearing that up. No pun intended. I went to that link again and tried to notice the banding to no avail.

ILLHYHL said:
also, in phone dial screen
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Stupid question, but in the dial screen, could you be mistaking it for the drop shadow of the tabbed navigation bar? I know I did at first. There's a strange amount of separation between the tabs' bar and a very thin drop shadow. Pretty strange graphic design if you ask me.

I dont think so. I do know that there is a shadow right under the blue line.
If you look at the screen close up at night, you will notice some bandings. It is too much and sudden colr shift to be a shadow.
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[Q] Is screen discolouration a fault?

Hello,
This is my first topic here, I have just bought a new S4, and the screen seems to have lines in it, when it is on a grey/dark screen, and is discolored on the bottom half.
Anyway, Please could you go into Settings > More > about device > software update. Now if you go in the dark, do you see discoloured patches on the bottom of the screen? (which are lighter than the rest). Please can you tell me which mode your screen is on, as then I can see if I can remove the problem by changing modes.
Also, It seems like when my screen is grey, there are lines all over the bottom half, that are slightly lighter than the rest of the screen.
Would you class this as a fault, as you can only see it in the dark, but I do use my phone in the dark a lot...
Do you think it is worth it to return it?
Also, if it is, do you think I should take it to the Samsung Service Center (I have full warranty, and Knox 0x0) or just return it to the seller
Thanks for any replies, I would be so greatful to anyone who helps
PS. it is not just in settings, it happens in any app that I use...

Well, first of all AMOLED technology isn't perfect and this is well known.
Most of users have a purple /pinkish tint on the bottom of the screen or top.
On mine aswell the bottom part of the screen is more pinkish or something like that, can be seem only on grey backgrounds bot i got used to it and doesn't bother me. Also i noticed when i keep brightness on very low level on white backgrounds like in play store i can see 1 or 2 slightly lighter horizontal lines.
To be honest doesn't bother me, all s4's i checked they all have some screen issues, because is AMOLED.

I have the same. That just something you have to live with.

Dean-xXx said:
Well, first of all AMOLED technology isn't perfect and this is well known.
Most of users have a purple /pinkish tint on the bottom of the screen or top.
On mine aswell the bottom part of the screen is more pinkish or something like that, can be seem only on grey backgrounds bot i got used to it and doesn't bother me. Also i noticed when i keep brightness on very low level on white backgrounds like in play store i can see 1 or 2 slightly lighter horizontal lines.
To be honest doesn't bother me, all s4's i checked they all have some screen issues, because is AMOLED.
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anubius said:
I have the same. That just something you have to live with.
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Really? It doesn't seem very good that it should have lines across it tbh
I am quite disappointed - Does it also seem to have lines that look at bit like burn in, but can't be as the phone is brand new ,and i cant think of any time that i let burn in happen...

George109 said:
Really? It doesn't seem very good that it should have lines across it tbh
I am quite disappointed - Does it also seem to have lines that look at bit like burn in, but can't be as the phone is brand new ,and i cant think of any time that i let burn in happen...
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If they are visible even on high brightness then is a problem.
So if you can clearly see them on maximum brightness, then you can go and ask for a replacement

Dean-xXx said:
If they are visible even on high brightness then is a problem.
So if you can clearly see them on maximum brightness, then you can go and ask for a replacement
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Ok, I will go and check it later on high brightness when I go to bed tonight. I'll report back later
Thanks for the replies

George109 said:
Ok, I will go and check it later on high brightness when I go to bed tonight. I'll report back later
Thanks for the replies
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Bad news. Seems like these lines and discoluoration also happens on full brightness. Looks like I need a repair. I'll try and post some photos tomorrow...
Edit: I bought it on eBay. Should I open a case, or should I take it to a Samsung service Centre as there is one close to Me?

I have the same lines, mostly visible on gray backgrounds. I can really see it on the weatherbug load screen. The one my eye sees the most is about 25% up the screen from the bottom, but when I stare for a while I can see a lot more. From what I've read, this is normal.

I dont get a full equal black screen either.Its like light is trying to get through in the bottom half of screen.Its more noticeable on lower brightness.
Never noticed it before....

George109 said:
Bad news. Seems like these lines and discoluoration also happens on full brightness. Looks like I need a repair. I'll try and post some photos tomorrow...
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Im sorry for tell ya but i think u have LCD screen troubles, like HERE

Every S4 has grey bands across the screen. The worst is the one about 25% up from bottom.
It's just a flaw of AMOLED screen
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But this was not the case for S3 screen when I had it. So it is the new panels that have this problem.

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But this was not the case for S3 screen when I had it. So it is the new panels that have this problem.
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You're right, the S3 screen was fine.
The new panels in the S4 are crap ( in my opinion)
Only advantage is 1080p, which for a phone is pointless (again, my opinion)
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Obagleyfreer said:
You're right, the S3 screen was fine.
The new panels in the S4 are crap ( in my opinion)
Only advantage is 1080p, which for a phone is pointless (again, my opinion)
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I have absolutely no strange lines or differences in colour on any given background.
I only got mine a week ago though.

I'm sure you will mate, or you just haven't noticed it yet
I've had 7 different S4s and EVERY SINGLE ONE had banding in greys.
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Obagleyfreer said:
You're right, the S3 screen was fine.
The new panels in the S4 are crap ( in my opinion)
Only advantage is 1080p, which for a phone is pointless (again, my opinion)
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100% agree with you.
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Obagleyfreer said:
I'm sure you will mate, or you just haven't noticed it yet
I've had 7 different S4s and EVERY SINGLE ONE had banding in greys.
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You are right I also had another s4 and the same thing. Probably if you go to the store and try the phones there all of them will have this. At first look with high brightness on it is not obvious but after looking carefully you will notice it.