#Z1HIDDEN - Xperia Z1 General

So I came across this last night, anyone got any ideas what it could be?
https://m.facebook.com/sonymobileuk
I messaged my local Sony Rep but he doesn't no anything, apparently.
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maverick1103 said:
So I came across this last night, anyone got any ideas what it could be?
https://m.facebook.com/sonymobileuk
I messaged my local Sony Rep but he doesn't no anything, apparently.
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Z1 Mini??

daleski75 said:
Z1 Mini??
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Possibly, though I think it's something to do with the camera, going by the photo.
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Would be nice if it was this supposed firmware update for the Z1 that helps improve the camera.

ascariss said:
Would be nice if it was this supposed firmware update for the Z1 that helps improve the camera.
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It must definitely be about the camera. That circular thing looks like the outer ring of the camera lens. I guess it must be the final camera software which was supposed to be due in October....together with 4.3., that'll be great.
However, I wish Sony would skip 4.3. and just go straight to 4.4. I mean, who wants 4.3. if 4.4. is just 14 days away?
Sony should make everybodys mouth drop if the announce they release of 4.4. at the end of October. Like: "BAM! In your face Samsung!"
I mean, hardware manufacturers are supposed to have acces to the next Android version 3 months before the release to the public, so basically since the days of the 4.3. announcement and this should be plenty time to get the update ready soon after the 4.4. announcement.

ascariss said:
Would be nice if it was this supposed firmware update for the Z1 that helps improve the camera.
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Its for the release of the Sony Playstation 2 games for the Z1 i think.

maverick1103 said:
Possibly, though I think it's something to do with the camera, going by the photo.
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ascariss said:
Would be nice if it was this supposed firmware update for the Z1 that helps improve the camera.
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drsoran2 said:
It must definitely be about the camera. That circular thing looks like the outer ring of the camera lens. I guess it must be the final camera software which was supposed to be due in October....together with 4.3., that'll be great.
However, I wish Sony would skip 4.3. and just go straight to 4.4. I mean, who wants 4.3. if 4.4. is just 14 days away?
Sony should make everybodys mouth drop if the announce they release of 4.4. at the end of October. Like: "BAM! In your face Samsung!"
I mean, hardware manufacturers are supposed to have acces to the next Android version 3 months before the release to the public, so basically since the days of the 4.3. announcement and this should be plenty time to get the update ready soon after the 4.4. announcement.
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Maybe there is a part of camera because They are releasing fix for camera breakdown when unlocking bootloader? I know, stupid guess
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drsoran2 said:
It must definitely be about the camera. That circular thing looks like the outer ring of the camera lens. I guess it must be the final camera software which was supposed to be due in October....together with 4.3., that'll be great.
However, I wish Sony would skip 4.3. and just go straight to 4.4. I mean, who wants 4.3. if 4.4. is just 14 days away?
Sony should make everybodys mouth drop if the announce they release of 4.4. at the end of October. Like: "BAM! In your face Samsung!"
I mean, hardware manufacturers are supposed to have acces to the next Android version 3 months before the release to the public, so basically since the days of the 4.3. announcement and this should be plenty time to get the update ready soon after the 4.4. announcement.
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I wouldn't expect 4.4 just yet, it will be a while before anyone has 4.4 on their device except the nexus 5. If anything, perhaps by December or January maybe Samsung or HTC will roll it out but I doubt it, more likely next year after CES. 4.3 just came for the htc one, and I don't even think the S4 is on 4.3 even. If Sony releases 4.3 now for the Z1, it will be a nice treat.
With 4.3 there is improved camera software, so perhaps with this, the camera's potential will be unlocked, as in better quality, [email protected], or even 4k.

Can be Android 4.3 or 4.4 and camera up grade, i think Sony will be good this year.
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for the mini

judging by the picture, i think its something related to camera
hidden of hidden potentials or something, so they will release a new firmware with better camera capabilities and maybe even 4k recording
or maybe honami mini

I think it's something to do with the camera, like people have already said 4k recording could be one, but I'm hoping for the finalised camera software tbh. 4.3 is due out in October I'd be surprised if it came out so soon.
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Dutch newssite is indeed mentioning something about a Z1 mini:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/91605/fotos-tonen-mogelijk-kleinere-xperia-z1-uitvoering.html

dagrim1 said:
Dutch newssite is indeed mentioning something about a Z1 mini:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/91605/fotos-tonen-mogelijk-kleinere-xperia-z1-uitvoering.html
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And here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46046094&postcount=4359
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If u scroll down they are launching a competition where they will be hiding various Z1's around and u hunt to find.them and if u do.find one u win it...
Simple. No secrets and no new phone announcement.
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maverick1103 said:
I think it's something to do with the camera, like people have already said 4k recording could be one, but I'm hoping for the finalised camera software tbh. 4.3 is due out in October I'd be surprised if it came out so soon.
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I expect that too! I don't think its a Z1 mini... I would expect the Z1 mini to be announced at CES probably...

jongilluley said:
If u scroll down they are launching a competition where they will be hiding various Z1's around and u hunt to find.them and if u do.find one u win it...
Simple. No secrets and no new phone announcement.
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That wasn't there yesterday, it's only been added, but it makes sense now.
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It is just a competition you can win a xperia Z1

Sean473 said:
I expect that too! I don't think its a Z1 mini... I would expect the Z1 mini to be announced at CES probably...
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Yes agreed, wouldn't think they would launch a new as powerful as Z1 Mini without an event.
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This picture pretty much reveals Z1 mini coming sooner then later..
http://www.gsmarena.com/alleged_official_documentation_gives_xperia_z1_mini_specs-news-6878.php

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Latest news Xperia Z will Receive 4.3 as well 4.4 too

Hellos guys
Herez the gud news for Xperia Z Series Flagship phones
First up, Jelly Bean 4.3
We’re pleased to tell you that we’ll start rolling Android 4.3 for Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1 from next month*.
We also mentioned that a few of our products would be jumping software version – so, we can confirm that Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V* will be upgraded to Android Jelly Bean 4.3… also from next month.
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
check the below website
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11...ss&utm_campaign=on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4
Question is, when are they going to release the update?
I like it....
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davidvu396 said:
Question is, when are they going to release the update?
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Next month, as it says in the OP.
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
mysticmetal said:
EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Where did you get this?
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...
pietrucci said:
Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...
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Pretty sure they will. But probably not in a good way.
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Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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kingvortex said:
Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
pietrucci said:
Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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The developers here do a fantastic job and I have massive respect for everything they do for the modding/Android community. Several devices of mine have had their useful lives extended greatly because of people on XDA.
However, they are not under the same constraints as the devs that work for Sony.
Sony's devs will be under strict developmental, testing and qa constraints and cannot release updates with bugs and rely on people providing bug reports/logcats to fix said bugs after the fact. They have to release software with all features working and with minimal bugs.
Not to mention all the red tape/paperwork they no doubt have to deal with and the other devices that all need maintaining. I would also imagine that the budget for maintaining older devices is dwarfed by the budget for new devices.
It's also worth noting that a lot of the devs good work on XDA is only possible because of blobs/binaries provided by Sony's devs in the first place.
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Sony releases an update with a camera app that takes 4 sec to open and everyone loses sleep over it while some1 here releases an update with wifi issues, screen on delays etc, they get praise for the device bring up which gets labeled as 1st release. lol
Obviously Sony cant depend on rapid development and recoveries and backups and all the fancy stuff we do when we get into issues when it relates to the average android user who by the phone and occasionally plug it in for PC companion to update and that's it. When wifi stops working no one is gonna say " oh this is a first release. They will fix it soon". People take back the devices and swap brands like that. Consumers are a fickle bunch.
Also as I have always said to myself , AOSP is the most barebones and feature lacking kind of experience out there. Android has matured a lot since the froyo gingerbread days and so have the OEM modifications. The reason I decided on the XZ against the N4. I am one willing to sacrifice smoothness for functionality any day. My Z is still stock and I will probably keep it that way til the EOL is reached. I came from the LG O2x which got ICS in December/January so trust me when is say I can wait lol.
pietrucci said:
Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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I agree, I think we all know they could have done this even 2 months ago. But do consider, they have to put in all bugs and make the OS laggy...you know how hard a job that is?
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Like I said... They made money already. Why would they spend more?
You know how much its costing them to pay 1 second-grade developer and 4 trainees so they could have a running upgrade dept? $120 a day! Thats too much for them.
(sorry for the ranting sarcasm...moving on...)
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-4-update-teased-for-sony-xperia-devices-20131101/
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-4-update-teased-for-sony-xperia-devices-20131101/
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There is nothing teased, it's just the news they put up.
Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.
andyukking said:
Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.
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Overall Performance seems better on KK. The difference between ART and dalvik is pretty big in some apps aswell. 4.3 brings trim.
The camera however ... Not so sure about that. I doubt they will even update the camera stuff. Why bother spending time and money optimizing an old flagships camera when people can just buy the New flagship with a camera that is advertised to be incredible? That's how a big company works. Time is money. Sad reality.
davidvu396 said:
Question is, when are they going to release the update?
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The C6616 model hasn't even gotten the 4.2 update yet.
Ya hopefully the C6616 will see 4.3 if not we will have to flash C6603
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sign a petition for updates

Guys as we all face several delays and miss in informations about the new software upgrades we wish to sign a petition to force sony To share us the stages and phases about the new upgrade not as before waiting 3 months and no info,as you saw what happeb to xperia SP they delay the updates wothout any reason so guys who can help us to do it so we can get some info fron the source neither leaks nor rumors are you in guys so who can help us???
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Guys as we all face several delays and miss in informations about the new software upgrades we wish to sign a petition to force sony To share us the stages and phases about the new upgrade not as before waiting 3 months and no info,as you saw what happeb to xperia SP they delay the updates wothout any reason so guys who can help us to do it so we can get some info fron the source neither leaks nor rumors are you in guys so who can help us???
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They're already pushing updates faster than they ever have, their update process is pretty easy to follow if you put in the time and effort to research it a little. Unlike a lot of brands they put a large emphasis on optimisation which means that things run a lot smoother, note the limited number of bugs in the 4.3 software. Yet again another spam thread about where's my update, the long and short of it is you have to be patient and wait like the rest of us.
wright_ac is correct about this. Their updates has been more faster than the originally before. Even faster than optimization than the Samsung updates which tells you something already. I've been largely patient with the updates and with the newest update, I've been noting but impress with optimization and additional little UI changes which does have it quirks of wondering why they haven't done that in the first place haha. The only glimpse I have is to replace the vibration module which have been ordered. DIY here I come haha.
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Guys as we all face several delays and miss in informations about the new software upgrades we wish to sign a petition to force sony To share us the stages and phases about the new upgrade not as before waiting 3 months and no info,as you saw what happeb to xperia SP they delay the updates wothout any reason so guys who can help us to do it so we can get some info fron the source neither leaks nor rumors are you in guys so who can help us???
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Since when did a petition ever force any person or any company to do anything?
All it is likely to do is telegraph the impatience of the self obsessed.
7 updates, including 2 upgrades to new versions of Android in less than a year aren't enough for you?
4.1.2
350 -> 434 -> 253 -> 307
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4.2.2
423 -> 244 -> 67
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4.3
569
How fast do you expect Sony to release updates if that isn't enough for you?
My previous device was a LG P990. It received 2 updates in the 2 years that I had it. Both were bug ridden messes that shouldn't have even been betas, never mind released.
So think yourself lucky with what you get from Sony.
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Unlike a lot of brands they put a large emphasis on optimisation which means that things run a lot smoother, note the limited number of bugs in the 4.3 software.
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Spot on!
Just as the Playstation 1 with the limited hardware got better and better games and graphics, so does the Z stock ROM get better and faster.
I love this device.
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kingvortex said:
7 updates, including 2 upgrades to new versions of Android in less than a year aren't enough for you?
4.1.2
350 -> 434 -> 253 -> 307
Then -
4.2.2
423 -> 244 -> 67
Then -
4.3
569
How fast do you expect Sony to release updates if that isn't enough for you?
My previous device was a LG P990. It received 2 updates in the 2 years that I had it. Both were bug ridden messes that shouldn't have even been betas, never mind released.
So think yourself lucky with what you get from Sony.
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instead of wasting time with incremental updates, they should focus their attention to more timely updates.
I'm on 4.2 waiting on 4.3.
4.3??!! , i should be getting 4.4 now!
samxool said:
instead of wasting time with incremental updates, they should focus their attention to more timely updates.
I'm on 4.2 waiting on 4.3.
4.3??!! , i should be getting 4.4 now!
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lol... you should buy a nexus or GPE phone if you want the latest greatest android version instantly, if you want Sony's refined software, we need to give Sony time to work on it.
TO should stop whining and start learning how to develop new ROM's himself. You sound like a little kid.
wright_ac said:
They're already pushing updates faster than they ever have, their update process is pretty easy to follow if you put in the time and effort to research it a little. Unlike a lot of brands they put a large emphasis on optimisation which means that things run a lot smoother, note the limited number of bugs in the 4.3 software. Yet again another spam thread about where's my update, the long and short of it is you have to be patient and wait like the rest of us.
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Sony firmware is just as buggy and comes with as many issues as updates from other manufacturers so your optimization argument is just bull.
The truth is flagship for flagship, Sony is much later than its competitors as far as updates go.
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samxool said:
instead of wasting time with incremental updates, they should focus their attention to more timely updates.
I'm on 4.2 waiting on 4.3.
4.3??!! , i should be getting 4.4 now!
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You heard it here, Sony. Don't bother fixing any bugs or bother with any quality assurance. Get those updates out the door now!
Seriously, it's plain from your post history that you have no idea what it takes to prepare, test and release an update, especially an upgrade to a new version of Android. Just stop commenting altogether until you do. Or even better go and complain on Sony's support forum like you've been told to many times in the past.
This is a development forum, primarily for people to share work they have produced and for similarly interested people to share knowledge and to learn, not a place for people with no clue to vent about things that nobody here has any control over.
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Sony firmware is just as buggy and comes with as many issues as updates from other manufacturers so your optimization argument is just bull.
The truth is flagship for flagship, Sony is much later than its competitors as far as updates go.
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Here's someone else that only comes here to complain about Sony when updates are on the horizon. Hooray!
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zodiac100 said:
Sony firmware is just as buggy and comes with as many issues as updates from other manufacturers so your optimization argument is just bull.
The truth is flagship for flagship, Sony is much later than its competitors as far as updates go.
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Right, let's look at it this way is there any major bug in the 4.3 Rom that is detrimental to performance/usability, not really. If you look at how smooth 4.3 runs compared to 4.2.2 you'll see what I mean, if it's "bull" as you so call it then move to another manufacturer like HTC or Samsung. If people looked at what went into it all and saw the amount of work it takes you'd all stop complaining less.
I think more than 50% of the people forget that SONY always more than 3 phones support with updates.
How kingvortex said, there is a lot of time and management needed to realese a update or upgrade.
Do not forget this guys! That is really hard work for SONY.
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You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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zodiac100 said:
You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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Ok some question.
What visible changes has htc made in the 4.3 update?
-None
What new great things were contained in the new update?
-Almost none
I've seen bloatwiz and sense updates and wasn't impressed at all.
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zodiac100 said:
You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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Do not forget, not every human buys every year a new phone. What I wanna say: HTC and Samsung does not give that update support as SONY. They update more or less the flagship and let the other phones waste after a year.
Also the most of people want a stable and smooth ROM. If SONY would release Android 4.4 after 1 week, I do not think that all would be stable.
And I prefer 1 good update than one which is not finished and I have to wait again for an update.
Here it doesn't matter if we are fanboys or not. That's fact yes, but what is better? 3 updates/phone in a year or 15 updates/phone in 2-3 years and be more or less up 2 date for long time?. If you don't like that, buy next time an other phone or unlock your bootloader and flash custom ROMs or buy a GPE.
Tommy-Geenexus said it, SONY give us also much of (new) features. They gave us the whole UI from the new Z1 with the 4.3 update.. That isn't of course. And also do not forget, SONY have to "change" all from "Android design" in to the "SONY design", that needs a lot of time.
I like the update policy because I know, every time when I read SONY will give us a new update, there will be a lot of new changes that can make me happy.
But however. Everyone should have their own opinion, they should just be realistic.
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You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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Looking at your post history, you seem to have a long history of buying Sony phones and coming here to whine about every little thing.
Yet you still keep on buying Sony phones.
Why is this exactly? You would have thought anyone that seems to dislike a manufacturers practices so much would have moved on by now.
You like to throw the word fanboy around a lot, when people are simply disagreeing with what you say. This just looks like you defending you irrational hatred of Sony. I mean, you don't post here for months at a time and only pop up when updates are released to whine and moan in every slightly related thread. Sell your phone and move on if it causes you to do that!
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zodiac100 said:
You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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The great and powerful zoltar sees an iPhone in your future.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49017766#post49017766
It's been closed on the forum it started in....
zodiac100 said:
You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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Stop talking trash. I prefer Sony way of updating, it takes time but SURELY get its job done. The changes in UI and optimization speaks the truth.
Mind you, currently I have samsung note 3, samsung update (ex: MK7) was trash. Battery drain was a huge let-down.

Ok, end of the month.. where is 4.4.4?

Sony Z1 and Z1 compact already have 4.4.4... Samsung dropping the ball?? Beaten by Sony LOL :crying:
Technically they have til Monday.
You obviously new if you think Samsung updates come even close to what is claimed.
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Sony Z1 and Z1 compact already have 4.4.4... Samsung dropping the ball?? Beaten by Sony LOL :crying:
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they said 4.4.3 will be out by end of june not 4.4.4
Beautiful troll post. So subtle until the "LOL".
Before others take the bait, he's an Xperia user gloating about the only upgrade he might get in a looooong time. :laugh:
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drakester09 said:
Beautiful troll post. So subtle until the "LOL".
Before others take the bait, he's an Xperia user gloating about the only upgrade he might get in a looooong time. :laugh:
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i came from xperia S so i get you exactly
drakester09 said:
Beautiful troll post. So subtle until the "LOL".
Before others take the bait, he's an Xperia user gloating about the only upgrade he might get in a looooong time. :laugh:
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I have both S5 and Z2, my wife has the Z1 Compact.
Have been a Samsung fan for ages, I'm more pi55ed than trolling. Samsung need to lift their game....
cheetah2k said:
I have both S5 and Z2, my wife has the Z1 Compact.
Have been a Samsung fan for ages, I'm more pi55ed than trolling. Samsung need to lift their game....
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Samsung are consistantly better than sony. i had the x10 and xs and its only now theyre catching up
cheetah2k said:
I have both S5 and Z2, my wife has the Z1 Compact.
Have been a Samsung fan for ages, I'm more pi55ed than trolling. Samsung need to lift their game....
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Why is this update significant?
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MadManMark said:
Why is this update significant?
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version is 0.0.1 more.
There is absolutely no difference in 4.4.4 (using it in my N4). Infact if you use an AOSP device, it will be hard to find any difference from 4.3 - 4.4.4. APart from minor UI tweaks, there is absolutely nothing for the user to feel any difference at all. I have seen enough of stock devices to know that.
Only thing is that OEMs add many functionalities to make the bare bone android phone decent in use. Otherwise, I have come to the conclusion that Android updates are pointless now. Most of the google apps are anyways updated separately, doesn't matter what version of Android.
The updates ARE significant from a security standpoint.
http://www.androidpit.com/android-4-4-3-solves-old-android-security-problems
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2366040/android-444-fixes-openssl-connection-hijacking-flaw.html
Most of the time vendors will backport the fixes, so even if 'all we get' is 4.4.3 it very well could include the OpenSSL fix included in 4.4.4.
cheetah2k said:
I have both S5 and Z2, my wife has the Z1 Compact.
Have been a Samsung fan for ages, I'm more pi55ed than trolling. Samsung need to lift their game....
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Do you even know what 4.4.4 adds and how it affects the end user?

Sad sony user

While we're waiting for the release of the Lollipop update, who should be this month, the Russian Samsung S4 gt-i9500 got the update. The S4 not the S5.
What bothers me the most, is almost all the flagships (Samsung, LG, Nexus, HTC,...) got the update expect Sony's
Link in french sorry ?
https://www.dz-android.com/officiel-android-lollipop-est-disponible-pour-le-galaxy-s4-gt-i9500/
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What do you want
A firmware made of hardwork
Or rushed work
Either way sony has been working harder than they ever have on Lolipop for Xperias
It would have been nice if they were at the same level as their opponents, that's all what I'm saying
algnerd said:
It would have been nice if they were at the same level as their opponents, that's all what I'm saying
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True but Quality like this may be worth waiting for.
No other brands do/can do what sony does
Its such a simple thing though.
Hope that they will release it soon
It is yet February and some of ya'll will the asap Lollipop, just unbelievable, have patients buddies, Sony will bring it out, they will made it perfect and no rushed work like Samsung/LG etc that ya'll have alot bugs then and it is also useless ythat some of ya'll still compare Sony with any other (rushing) company... LOL !
Envious_Data said:
What do you want
A firmware made of hardwork
Or rushed work
Either way sony has been working harder than they ever have on Lolipop for Xperias
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+1000
Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
algnerd said:
While we're waiting for the release of the Lollipop update, who should be this month, the Russian Samsung S4 gt-i9500 got the update. The S4 not the S5.
What bothers me the most, is almost all the flagships (Samsung, LG, Nexus, HTC,...) got the update expect Sony's
Link in french sorry ?
https://www.dz-android.com/officiel-android-lollipop-est-disponible-pour-le-galaxy-s4-gt-i9500/
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You should buy a nexus.
avercros said:
You should buy a nexus.
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If Sony sells its mobile division, I'd probably by a nexus
I'll take Samsung for my example because I know them.
Samsung will rush their update, they make sure everything works as it should, but the software is not optimized, My S3 would always lag really badly when I updated, it could take 5 seconds for the app draw to load, and they fill it with bloat and update their own apps which also lag really badly. I would prefer to wait another month as see a quality product rather than relive my Samsung nightmare.
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You should buy a nexus.
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Sony gave you the phone for free??
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fayez69 said:
Sony gave you the phone for free??
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Was a gift from my gf, like my other phones.
Free phones ftw.
They should take their time. No need to hurry. Quality phone requires quality update
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They should take their time. No need to hurry. Quality phone requires quality update
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They do take their time
Does non one see this
167 firmware took forever to come and its practicly bugless on stock.
Envious_Data said:
They do take their time
Does non one see this
167 firmware took forever to come and its practicly bugless on stock.
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God, I love Sony. Sad they were laying off Xperia branch employees
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y300owner said:
God, I love Sony. Sad they were laying off Xperia branch employees
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Sony is doing better now
Slower updates
Better updates
I dont care if it takes longer because its buggless
167 is a prime example.
Its coming soon, be patient!
To be honest it's this month and whenever they start to roll out the update, it'll be there on multiple servers unlike Samsung or HTC.
Other OEMs haven't started rolling it out completely and Only problem with Sony is that I am afraid they'll update mid-range phones to lollipop.
Plus Selling their mobile division won't happen I guess. They just need to stop producing more phones and just stick to a plan with less devices with more futuristic updates with some cool ads. Unlike boring or stupid ones. and they will rise from this nightmare and will continue to amaze us but I really hope that they'll release Camera features with the next lollipop update
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To be honest it's this month and whenever they start to roll out the update, it'll be there on multiple servers unlike Samsung or HTC.
Other OEMs haven't started rolling it out completely and Only problem with Sony is that I am afraid they'll update mid-range phones to lollipop.
Plus Selling their mobile division won't happen I guess. They just need to stop producing more phones and just stick to a plan with less devices with more futuristic updates with some cool ads. Unlike boring or stupid ones. and they will rise from this nightmare and will continue to amaze us but I really hope that they'll release Camera features with the next lollipop update
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Boosted Android L camera software with ray plus xperia camera... Going to be crazy!!!
algnerd said:
While we're waiting for the release of the Lollipop update, who should be this month, the Russian Samsung S4 gt-i9500 got the update. The S4 not the S5.
What bothers me the most, is almost all the flagships (Samsung, LG, Nexus, HTC,...) got the update expect Sony's
Link in french sorry ?
https://www.dz-android.com/officiel-android-lollipop-est-disponible-pour-le-galaxy-s4-gt-i9500/
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I understand where you're coming from but it's been a Perennial issue with Sony. It's a very competitive industry and lagging behind others does Sony no good. There will always be the expected responses from Sony fans like better to wait for an update which is bug free than one rushed and bug ridden .
Truth is, there has never been an update from Sony that's been bug free and there probably never will be as is the case with all manufacturers.
The good news is they're at least closing the gap. Once upon a time they were many months behind. It's unfortunate because the Sony ui is one of the closest to stock so you should expect it to be one of the earliest.
Software support has never been one of their highest priorities but the new CEO did say they wanted to improve in this respect.
Let's hope so eh!
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They do take their time
Does non one see this
167 firmware took forever to come and its practicly bugless on stock.
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167 took ages because Sony wanted to showcase the software on the z3 range. That was down to strategy and not software optimisation. The 6 month madness was to blame for the delay in getting 4.4.4 to the z2. Nothing else!
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zodiac100 said:
I understand where you're coming from but it's been a Perennial issue with Sony. It's a very competitive industry and lagging behind others does Sony no good. There will always be the expected responses from Sony fans like better to wait for an update which is bug free than one rushed and bug ridden .
Truth is, there has never been an update from Sony that's been bug free and there probably never will be as is the case with all manufacturers.
The good news is they're at least closing the gap. Once upon a time they were many months behind. It's unfortunate because the Sony ui is one of the closest to stock so you should expect it to be one of the earliest.
Software support has never been one of their highest priorities but the new CEO did say they wanted to improve in this respect.
Let's hope so eh!
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167 took ages because Sony wanted to showcase the software on the z3 range. That was down to strategy and not software optimisation. The 6 month madness was to blame for the delay in getting 4.4.4 to the z2. Nothing else!
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Notice that I've been loyal to Sony since my first phone (w810) and so and so. And I would love to stick with Sony to the very last end but they should make some changes.
I don't know if its me, but the only bug I did have was with the Z when running 4.3: an app couldn't sync with the server, also the widgets stopped working from time to time.
That's all I can remember from the w810, w995, x2, x10, J, S, Z and Z2 bugs

[Not a surprise] We are getting Android 6.0 Marshmallow

According to the official Sony Mobile blog, we are indeed getting the next major release of Android:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/
Excited?
Fantastic news!
Been debating whether or not to splash out on a Z3 Tablet Compact and the fact that it's also getting an update might push me over.
Cheers for the link
How long is the wait will be make the difference between Sony and other manufacturers.
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This time updates will come faster because sony is moving to close-to-stock firmware. Faster doesn't mean next month though Maybe December-January.
omegastarr said:
This time updates will come faster because sony is moving to close-to-stock firmware. Faster doesn't mean next month though Maybe December-January.
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They probably don't want to repeat an as sloppy start as with LP, so I'd guess somewhere between Jan-Mar, but the fact that they're moving closer to Vanilla may affect that..
Personally, I hope that they will expand the theming capabilities of their current theme engine. It's already quite good but being able to theme more the official way (no rooting or modding just swapping the themes on the go) would be great.
You think that next update will be closer to Vanilla from Sony's Android™ Concept??
Kinda pity the Z1 users. Their device is more than capable to run Marshmallow. But we're not here to talk about them. I'm kinda not that excited about the Marshmallow update. I just want Sony to release a bugfree update in just one release. Is that really too hard to ask for?
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You think that next update will be closer to Vanilla from Sony's Android™ Concept??
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Most probably not
But that is what I want too!!
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LeParkour012 said:
Kinda pity the Z1 users. Their device is more than capable to run Marshmallow. But we're not here to talk about them. I'm kinda not that excited about the Marshmallow update. I just want Sony to release a bugfree update in just one release. Is that really too hard to ask for?
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Google can't do it and you ask sony for that ? Impossibru
I don't get why Sony have to change the home circle to a house and the phone icon. I hope they keep it stock and get rid of that coloured notification bar
Should arrive around Dec 2016 then once the Networks have pissed around with it!
Always.... Complains when we hesr good news from Sony ><"
Get some of you never tired of yourself [emoji14]
Well be happy that we get Android 6.0 ^^
Just somewhere and keep positive

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