Worth $400 new as a secondary/work phone? - Xperia Z General

I can get a T-Mobile one for $400 new plus the SBH20 headset for free from Sony's site (combination of corporate perks discount, Sony credit card offer, and Sony rewards points). I'm wondering if there's any reason I shouldn't pick it up, especially at that price.
I'd be using it as a secondary/work phone - meaning mostly limited to phone calls, texts, and minor web stuff like calendar appointments. I already have a Z Ultra so I don't need anything as big or high-tech (like the Note 3), and the screen/size is fine for me having seen and held it in person. I figure mostly it'd be a nice compliment to my Ultra.
Thoughts? I've owned a S4 Mini and HTC One, and played around with a regular S4 a lot and wasn't particularly impressed. My choices beyond that are limited, considering I need it to work on T-Mobile US and don't want to spend too much on this phone.
There's also some low-end phone like the Xperia M or L I could get that should be compatible with T-Mobile 4G (not LTE), but then I don't get the nice specs or build quality.

I think you answered your own question.
I love the phone, it's perfect for anything you want.
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It's a bargain for 400$. Grab it...

Personally I wouldn't bother if it's only for a second phone, the Ultra is more than meaty enough for everything you could want and even better is that when you get home, are waiting for the bus, having lunch at your desk etc...you can watch films or tv on that big ass Ultra screen.

So I'm still waiting for my Sony card to come in to order the phone, but now I just caught wind of the Xperia Z1 "f"/Mini, which is a beast at only 4.3" in size...I'm considering waiting for that, even if it'd be more expensive, since that way I'll always have a really good camera with me.
I dunno, I'll gut out my HTC G2 and use that until I get a release date on that new Z1, and see pricing as well as LTE bands (if any).
Kirkymole said:
Personally I wouldn't bother if it's only for a second phone, the Ultra is more than meaty enough for everything you could want and even better is that when you get home, are waiting for the bus, having lunch at your desk etc...you can watch films or tv on that big ass Ultra screen.
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I'm also thinking about that, and considering just going with an Xperia M or L, since that'd only be like $100 after my discounts and whatnot. I just don't want too weak of a phone or too bad of a screen that I won't be able to use outdoors.

magus57 said:
So I'm still waiting for my Sony card to come in to order the phone, but now I just caught wind of the Xperia Z1 "f"/Mini, which is a beast at only 4.3" in size...I'm considering waiting for that, even if it'd be more expensive, since that way I'll always have a really good camera with me.
I dunno, I'll gut out my HTC G2 and use that until I get a release date on that new Z1, and see pricing as well as LTE bands (if any).
I'm also thinking about that, and considering just going with an Xperia M or L, since that'd only be like $100 after my discounts and whatnot. I just don't want too weak of a phone or too bad of a screen that I won't be able to use outdoors.
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To be honest once Sony release their next handset or two, 'older' handsets like the Z, ZR, ZL etc are going to start dropping prices pretty rapidly. You might be able to pick up something in the low to mid range of the Z handsets.
See what the market ends up like

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Google N1 vs SE X10

Who do you think will be the winner? Release date is approximately the same (x10 maybe 1 month later).
Advantages of X10:
Better design
Special Sony Ericsson UI (which is a bit laggy)
Better 8 mp camera with more functions
Bigger screen
Advantages of N1:
AMOLED display instead of TFT
It might be cheaper, than X10
GOOGLE (so there should be early official updates, because google is the author of Android)
Android 2.1 (not 1.6, like X10 has)
More RAM
There is a subforum for N1 on this web-site ^^ and X10 won't have that
From my point of view for
X10
- The Camera
- Design
N1
- 512 RAM
- Dock pins
- Probably updated more often and sooner.
The N1 is uglier but, I think I'm going with it anyways, shame since the X10 is awesome looking.
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Advantages of X10:
Special Sony Ericsson UI
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im no so sure if that is an advantage
and i have lost my confedence in se a bit lately so i say nexus is better
double the ram is what pushed me towards the n1 instead of the x10
Screen size is debatable, it isn't that much of a difference. Especially since the Android UI scales according to the DPIs reported by the device, anyway.
N1 has more RAM, is directly supported by Google, as such should get regular OS updates (as opposed to how things are right now), especially since it might be likely an ADP3. Plus, a better developer community from the get-go.
X10 has better camera, lags behind Android releases. Whether the custom UI is worth a damn, remains to be seen. All the blue is annoying as hell, and I especially don't see the point in Timescape, will all these flashy cards in 3D space. Not sure who thought this is intuitive or efficient. Developer community TBD.
Yea, the X10 looks better, but function over form. The 8mp camera doesn't do it for me. Considering the small lens sizes and the rising amount of noise due to cramming more pixels onto a small surface, doesn't mean it's better off.
Waiting for the 5th of January when N1 will be officially announced
I prefer the looks of the N1 over the X10. I think the X10 is a bit too flashy and those chrome button at the bottom look tacky IMO. Also, the X10 doesnt have AWS for T-Mobile USA 3G. Also, 256mb of ram? What the hell were they thinking.
Be honest hate say it, but N1
It's a pity, that we in Russia don't care about these T-mobile contracts etc, but have to buy top cell phones for the price of $1000 (yes, more expensive than in the USA)... it's so awful
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It's a pity, that we in Russia don't care about these T-mobile contracts etc, but have to buy top cell phones for the price of $1000 (yes, more expensive than in the USA)... it's so awful
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Why not buy them on ebay from usa seller with worldwide shipping?
maybe because of guarantee... plus I don't really trust the internet shops
I say get the n1. better specs and you can always have a go with the sony ui on it later, enjoying more ram to run it.
From what I've seen & read, I like the looks & specs of the N1 over the X10. But, the real test will be to get them in your hands!
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It's a pity, that we in Russia don't care about these T-mobile contracts etc, but have to buy top cell phones for the price of $1000 (yes, more expensive than in the USA)... it's so awful
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I believe I can buy up to 5 per google account. I can buy and resell them
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I believe I can buy up to 5 per google account. I can buy and resell them
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but 5 with contract, isn't it?
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but 5 with contract, isn't it?
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Who knows? We'll all find out on Tuesday.
mm wonder if I should consider buying more than 1 and resell it for profit..
jamesyb0i said:
mm wonder if I should consider buying more than 1 and resell it for profit..
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You probably can but you're placing a huge bet here because:
1. You will shell around $2650 for 5 phones plus import tax if you're outside the US
2. There is no guarantee that N1 will be sold out... If they let people to buy 5 of them, I think they are pretty confident that they have quite a lot in stock
3. If it's not a sold out product you have 4 N1 sitting there while Ebay probably got flooded with the product and you can't sell them for a good profit...
If you're sure that the product will be sold out for an extended period of time (like the Wii) then it is wise to stock up and sell them slowly as the price will stay up.
I myself is thinking about that as well and it will be a gametime decision during work (9am January 5th) whether to get all 5 of them or just 1
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I say get the n1. better specs and you can always have a go with the sony ui on it later, enjoying more ram to run it.
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Exactly what i was thinking! N1 all day over x10!
I used to be a huge fan on the x10. I've been waiting for a good Android phone for three years now...
Things the x10 fails at:
1) marketing/engineering. They missed the xmas season 09.
2) Custom UI. This will be a nightmare to maintain since google updates the code so often. Its not necessary and a waste of time. Expect sony to send out updates a month after google does.
3)price. Its estimated to be $700 or more.
Things the x10 is better at
1) better camera
2) better media support/player

Right Decision?

Hey guys,
I wanted the nexus one ever since it first got announced. unforunately for the first month and a half it was exclusive with tmo bands. Come around March, i heard the ATT version was released and i told myself i was gonna get it. I put up my iphone 3gs and to my surprise, nobody bit. they were all trying to trade their iphones for the nexus one att version, just like i was.
fast forward to last week, i bought a htc desire (telus, so it works with att) from a friend. It was a awesome phone, but the nexus one bug was still inside me. Everytime i would see comparison videos against the desire, i would tell myself how pretty and attractive the nexus one is. I couldnt take it anymore, so i went on ebay, searched all day today, and than right when i thought all hope was lost, one ad popped up. "never used, refurbished by HTC Nexus One ATT". I did the BIN which was 425 with 15 dollar shipping. Now selling the desire for 550ish. My question is, with tech advancing so fast these days, did i make a good investment in buying a mint att nexus one for a whopping 425? or should i have waited for the dual core phones from samsung.
be brutally honest guys. and btw, the nexus one is going to share primary phone duties with my iphone 4.
I think it's worth it. The N1 is amazing.
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I think it's worth it. The N1 is amazing.
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I agree. The N1 is still the best all rounder phone (notification lights, great GPS receiver, perfect size). Unless you play very graphic intensive games on your phone...you'll be just fine without a dual-core processor. I just feel sorry for your poor iPhone 4..you're gonna be so mad at the little things it can't do like long kinetic scrolling in the browser, lack of configurable color LED notifications, flash in the browser, ability to change to different notification sounds....
In my opinion, currently, there is not a single phone that, in overall quality, surpasses the nexus one.
It's just "pure" - no UI additions, no craziness. Just solid, beautiful phone. Oh, and it just feels so good to the touch.
There are phones that has advantages over it here and there.. but overall, N1 is still the king of the hill for me.
It sounds like you made a little money selling the desire and getting the N1 so I guess it wasn't dumb. I personally think the desire is a bit cooler looking than the nexus so I would have kept that. They're basically exactly the same, right?
I really like my nexus one. Recently the battery life has even become better on the stock rom. However if someone was about to buy it now I would tell them not to bother. The touch screen sucks — it can only detect two points and gets confused doing that, it also gets messed up when the phone warms up in my car dock. The screen is also nearly impossible to see in bright daylight.
Not sure what android phone I'd prefer though. Wish there was a galaxy s with an HTC body.
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Remember that all the leaked Sammy devices are for T-MOBILE.
AT&T is in the process of switching bed partners from Apple to Microsoft. I count us AT&T users lucky that we got an AT&T banded N1 to begin with. Regardless of what the person with incredibly large hands may say about the Dell phones, the N1 is the best Android phone on AT&T and will be for some time until the next Dev phone makes its way (fingers crossed) to AT&T bands.
Until then, enjoy the BEST custom roms ever made right here at XDA. This phone gets better ever month, and next month when the customized gingerbread roms appear, it will be better again.
I totally agree my friend
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Not worth it, IMHO. Once you get it, post back and let us know how you like it, and if YOU feel you got your money's worth.
I think its not worth it. Don't get me wrong it's the best phone I have ever had. All the Sidekicks (1,2,3 and lx etc.), from there to g1 (great classic) and a N900 with a few other phones.
I traded my N900 and got an nexus plus $200 bucks. best deal ever !!!!!!!
I would not sale my nexus it's is the best phone out to me. Perfect build, and feel. Googles baby you just can't beat that.
AND THE BEST COMMUNITY FOR ANY PHONE KNOWN TO MAN.
A CLASSIC THAT NEVER DIES ..... CHUCK NORRIS LOL. j/k
But, if your not happy with your choice there always someone with that same burning feeling you had to get one that will pay 500+.

What would you trade your N1 for?

So, what would you trade your Nexus one for? im thinking the LG Optimus 2X would be a great replacement.
is there anything currently or on the horizon that you want?
Nothing really grabs me for the moment.
T-mobile upgrade doesn't come in effect for another 10 months and full price for a phone doesn't appeal to me when the upgrade is not much better.
I expect some neat stuff to be out in 10 months tho.
I tried playing games on the N1 but the small screen size just doesn't do it for me so I'm not sure what I would get out of a dual-core for now.
I'll be keeping mine for the foreseeable future, probably a year . There is currently nothing that is a big enough leap in technology to pry my Nexy out of my hands.
Asides from the LG Optimus 2X, a couple of the other new phones announced at CES sound awesome most notably the Samsung Infuse, Motorola Atrix, Motorola Bionic, and HTC Thunderbolt. Sadly, these are all on carriers other than TMO, so I am sticking with my Nexy.
Probably the next Nexus phone, that should be a significant step up.
TMO has their presentation at CES this afternoon.
I'd trade mine for a 6ft leggy blonde....but only if she's ok with being 'flashed' and 'rooted'
Anything short of that and you'd have to pry my n1 out of my cold, lifeless hands!
Klondike Bar.
There hasn't been anything released or even announced that would make me want to sign a new two year contract yet. But if somebody comes up with a 4G, dual core phone with a big screen, hdmi mirroring, front/rear cams and decent android community support (at least cyanogenmod). I'd be interested.
I did trade mine for a G2. Here why:
-My power button was broke
-The touch screen is lame
-I got $450.00 for it despite those two flaws and it's age
-I got a brand new G2 off craigslist for $359
If not for that combination of events I might have kept it. Because even though the G2's hardware is superior to the N1's, it doesn't give a mindblowingly superior Android experience.
I think I would trade it for Nokia N8 Or I would trade it for a dell streak if it was running stock or a dell venue pro
Nokia N8: specs are just insane on this device and it looks good. (I was a Nokia Fanboy so to me Nokia n8 is a nice piece of hardware) Bad: underpower cpu and I wouldn't say bad but rather old OS.
Dell Streak: I just wanna be different phone LOL Bad: Might be stuck on 2.2 forever
Dell Venue pro: Great Looking device Bad: No flash + No Multitasking = disaster
I would trade my N1 for the new Motorola Atrix that was just announced for at&t. Hopefully it will be released soon!
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Probably the next Nexus phone, that should be a significant step up.
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Its True! Google need other phone!
im wanna HTC Linux
I probably will end up sticking with my $40/month Nexus One and saving $300 - $360 per year over what normal people pay for smartphones
ATM I'm in that sort of "wow that phone is amazing I must have it!" phase with the motorola atrix, lg optimus 2x, and droid bionic but I'm sure that will pass with time
HDMI mirroring (LG 2x / Droid Bionic) is amazing to me and makes it so I never need another nintendo, super nintendo, sega, or playstation ever again. They would all just be on my phone ready to play (with a wiimote) at the drop of a hat
The atrix doesn't seem to have the actual mirroring like the two above but seems to have the amazing option of turning into a sort of macbook air whenever you want or being able to be used on a monitor. This is in addition to its mind-blowing stats and 1930mAh battery
This is the holy grail I am always looking for, the one device that takes care of every single electronic need in your life:
- Phone
- Camera
- Voice recorder
- Internet connection
- Keyboard support to turn into a computer
- Emulator gaming with wiimote support
- All day battery life
- Good price
I'll have to wait and see how these new phones play out. They could be amazing and take care of all of these functions and force me to buy them or they could be overpriced and not worth it. We shall see...
I always wonder with these threads what any of the guys who still follow Moores law (even the modified version 12months vs 18 months for PC replacement), think about all these quick replacements?
i think for me it will be the Motorola Atrix for me. i will keep my n1 for beta testing and stuff but for my daily phone i do believe the atrix will be it.
The TMO CES presentation listed nothing but the Streak 7 tablet. No phone announcement = epic fail.
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Probably the next Nexus phone, that should be a significant step up.
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This is my hope as well. I know it's been repeated many times but I hope HTC makes it once again and really tries to put Samsung to shame(not that it would be that hard).
I will replace my N1 for the htc version of the 2x. Come on htc dual core flagship!
Rellikzephyr
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No phone announcement = epic fail.
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As long as the industry gets pushed upward by CES I could care less about which carrier got the goods.
T-mobile announced 4g honeycomb tablets today in addition to saying they were coming out with 25 total 4g devices in the next year. Trust me they will be coming out with amazing phones as well
Happy though that Att got the best android phones though even if I don't have them as my carrier. They needed an amazing android phone in the worst way and now have one: the Atrix

[Q] Desire Z as a first Android phone, coming from S60?

My current phone is a Nokia E71, but I'm thinking of going to Android after Nokia's news last week. After doing some research, it seems like the Desire Z is the best option available right now (in terms of phones available unlocked and unsubsidized).
Nokia's have always been known for reception and call quality, so I am a bit concerned that I've been spoiled and won't be happy with the DZ. Any concerns there?
As a final question, is it wise to jump now or should I be saving my money for the dual-core phones we'll be seeing this year? Having some Android experience with an Archos 70 tablet, I know I won't be happy with a device I can't root as soon as I receive it, so the newer devices could mean a long wait.
To be honest, I haven't been too happy with my G2's reception (coming from a Nexus one) but I happen to live in a ****ty reception area so I don't really know for a fact.
Normally I would say wait a month for the new dual core phones, but there has yet to be an announcment on any Dual Core phones with a hardware keyboard. If that is a deal breaker for you, go ahead and buy the Desire Z.
No matter what phone you choose, it is going to be outpaced in a matter of months, so just buy what you feel is the best phone on the market at the time. I am more than happy with my G2 and probably won't be switching untill a much better phone with a keyboard comes out.
Also, I just noticed you are from Chesapeake VA... I used to live in Norfolk =) why are you looking at the DZ? the G2 is the same thing without sense and is cheaper.
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Also, I just noticed you are from Chesapeake VA... I used to live in Norfolk =) why are you looking at the DZ? the G2 is the same thing without sense and is cheaper.
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I'm pretty happy with AT&T and T-Mobile's coverage isn't as good around here, especially in the fringe areas.
As for the dual-core phones, I am one of those users hanging on to Media net (non-smartphone data), so I need to stick with phones that AT&T doesn't carry, or I'll be "upgraded" to a smartphone plan. The only upcoming dual-core phone that looks interesting right now is the Atrix (although there may be others I have missed), and since AT&T carries it, I would have to switch data plans.
So, from what I've seen. The Atrix did not stand up to all the hype it was given. Mainly because of motoblur, which you can't give rid of because of the locked bootloader.
Listen, the G2 (DZ, whatever) is a great phone, if you keep on worrying about the next best thing you are never gonna get a new phone, Just go for it, I promise you will be happy =)
quick tip, If you want the DZ to work on AT&T 3G get the one from Bell Canada that uses the same 3G bands, otherwise, you are gonna be stuck on edge.
Welcome to the Dark Side. I used to run Symbian-Guru.com, and now I'm here. I *love* my G2 (with a Desire Z ROM on it), it's everything the N97 should have been. You'll likely get similar (though not equal) battery life on the Desire Z to your E71, so that's a plus.
I wouldn't worry about what's coming up - the only new Android device announced at MWC that has a keyboard is a Sony Ericsson, and I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole. If you don't care about the front-facing camera (which you probably don't), then the G2 is simply fantastic. There's alot of dev support, as well, so you can easily root it (now), and you can overclock and whatnot.
Another big plus is that the Desire Z/G2 is available officially with a Stock rom and a Sense rom, you can easily switch between them (rather than waiting on someone to port one or the other). I personally prefer Sense, mainly due to the superior camera, music, and contacts applications, but everyone's different.
Feel free to DM me or whatever if you have any questions, especially coming from the Symbian world.
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Welcome to the Dark Side. I used to run Symbian-Guru.com, and now I'm here. I *love* my G2 (with a Desire Z ROM on it), it's everything the N97 should have been. You'll likely get similar (though not equal) battery life on the Desire Z to your E71, so that's a plus.
I wouldn't worry about what's coming up - the only new Android device announced at MWC that has a keyboard is a Sony Ericsson, and I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole. If you don't care about the front-facing camera (which you probably don't), then the G2 is simply fantastic. There's alot of dev support, as well, so you can easily root it (now), and you can overclock and whatnot.
Another big plus is that the Desire Z/G2 is available officially with a Stock rom and a Sense rom, you can easily switch between them (rather than waiting on someone to port one or the other). I personally prefer Sense, mainly due to the superior camera, music, and contacts applications, but everyone's different.
Feel free to DM me or whatever if you have any questions, especially coming from the Symbian world.
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About the time symbian guru closed down was about the same time i got fed up with symbians lack of inovation. After a string of nokias and samsung i8910 i sold a few of my old phones and brought my first android phone. I will never look back.
G2 is an awesome phone.
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I'm pretty happy with AT&T and T-Mobile's coverage isn't as good around here, especially in the fringe areas.
As for the dual-core phones, I am one of those users hanging on to Media net (non-smartphone data), so I need to stick with phones that AT&T doesn't carry, or I'll be "upgraded" to a smartphone plan. The only upcoming dual-core phone that looks interesting right now is the Atrix (although there may be others I have missed), and since AT&T carries it, I would have to switch data plans.
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I'm in the exact same boat as you. The unlimited media net at $10/month is too good to let go of especially in today's world of mobile data pricing.
The reception on the Desire Z is average. If I had to rate it, I would give it a 7/10. The biggest let down I have noticed is that when using the phone in landscape mode with the keyboard open, my signal drops rather significantly. In most areas, this is not a problem but my home is somewhat rural and my reception here has always been so-so (around 95-105dbm). At home it will sometimes drop me from H to Edge when using the keyboard. Call quality has been solid, never had any issues. The speaker is weak compared to my Blackberry Bold but that phone had an AMAZING speaker, the best I've ever had on a cell phone. I use my bluetooth most of the time and it is loud and clear, speaking directly into the phone is fine as well, plenty loud.
I have used the E71 as well as numerous Blackberry devices. The signal on my Blackberry was definitely stronger (ranged between 90-95dbm in home). Not only was it stronger but also more consistent. Although the DZ has a weaker signal, its not such a difference that it causes problems for me.
All of that being said, the Desire Z is a great device. I loved my Blackberry but the OS was falling behind and the development by RIM was too slow for me. If you need a hardware keyboard and want a great Android device on AT&T's network, then this is a great option. I have mulled going and buying an Atrix as well but I really don't want to pay an additional $15 a month for data AND be limited to 2GB...
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No matter what phone you choose, it is going to be outpaced in a matter of months, so just buy what you feel is the best phone on the market at the time. I am more than happy with my G2 and probably won't be switching untill a much better phone with a keyboard comes out.
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That's exactly what I did when I upgraded, and I got the phone that I wanted with the plan that I needed (G2/TM). I wanted a hard keyboard and (initially) Stock Froyo or sense. Reception and battery life have, for the most part been solid.
jpwd
the orange bandit said:
Welcome to the Dark Side. I used to run Symbian-Guru.com, and now I'm here. I *love* my G2 (with a Desire Z ROM on it), it's everything the N97 should have been. You'll likely get similar (though not equal) battery life on the Desire Z to your E71, so that's a plus.
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Considering that your blog was a big part of my decision to buy the E71 in the first place, I guess I'll have to take your advice again and buy the DZ when my tax refund comes in.

Atrix popularity on question

Hello folks,
On paper, the atrix is very similar to the Samsung Galaxy s2.
I do acknowledge the GS2 is better than the atrix on most scenarios, but I don't think the GS2 should be 700+ bucks or on the other hand the atrix shouldn't be as cheap as 300+ bucks.
I've been checking on the motorola atrix pricing around ebay and I actually made a decent deal. Which brings me to the question. Why is the atrix so cheap and unpopular, when it brings real life performance similar to the GS2 and even more functionality than the GS2 (Atrix docks), all this at half the price of the GS2
What are your thoughts?
It seems that due to the radio frequency only supporting ATT 3G, and also the fact that Galaxy S has a better following than "Atrix" this would support the cheaper price.
If you look up Samsung Focus for instance, you can get one for around $100 and it has a 1ghz processor and 4"amoled screen. (no slouch) but because its WP7 and because it wasnt that popular, you can get it cheap.
it is called free market pricing. Prices are set at point where supply and demand meet. The SGSII is a great phone, and lots of people want it (high demand). It is also very new, and never before released in the US on a major carrier, which means that supply is very low. Both of these two factors push the price of the phone up.
The atrix is a great phone, however there is tons of supply since it has been out for quite a while. This drives the price down.
Another reason, compare the predecessors... Droid X vs Galaxy S. They are both great phones, but in my book the Galaxy S wins 95 out of 100 times. Samsung just makes very refined and desirable phones.
I have an atrix, and anticipate loving it once I get CM7x, but for the past 4 months that I have had it, it has been a lot of frustration.
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it is called free market pricing. Prices are set at point where supply and demand meet. The SGSII is a great phone, and lots of people want it. It is also very new, and never before released in the US on a major carrier, which means that supply is very low. Both of these two factors push the price of the phone up.
The atrix is a great phone also, however there is tons of supply since it has been out for quite a while. This drives the price down.
Another reason, compare the predecessors... Droid X vs Galaxy S. They are both great phones, but in my book the Galaxy S wins 95 out of 100 times. Samsung just makes very refined and desirable phones, as long as you don't care about GPS.
I have an atrix, and anticipate loving it once I get CM7x, but for the past 4 months that I have had it, it has been a lot of frustration.
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Mostly agree (not sure about the GS processor winning 95% of the time, but OK). Just wanted to fix a glaring little error, in bold
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It seems that due to the radio frequency only supporting ATT 3G, and also the fact that Galaxy S has a better following than "Atrix" this would support the cheaper price.
If you look up Samsung Focus for instance, you can get one for around $100 and it has a 1ghz processor and 4"amoled screen. (no slouch) but because its WP7 and because it wasnt that popular, you can get it cheap.
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Thanks foe the info I'm gonna get one now
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I agree that it's the supply and demand thing.
When I bought mine, almost no official retailer would sell it to me without an activation on Bell. And, it was full price (over $600). Now it's $100 on a 3-year term. I didn't want to wait so I paid the price...
uhm, I think that brings the reason why the atrix is so cheap. I'm not complaining, just wondering.
Anyways, it's better for me and any atrix potential buyer hehehe. I wanted to buy the GS2 but then i realized that the similarly specd atrix was almost half the price. so I went for the atrix, plus the hd dock and the remote control are some nice features.
Have a portable entertainment system that makes calls? that's priceless. And if you are watching a movie on your home teather and have to go, you can just pick up your phone and keep watching in the subway...
Another unmentioned (at least on this thread) factor of the Atrix unpopularity was the fact that it came bootloader locked, which meant that no custom ROM could be installed.
But that has changed now that we have an unlocked bootloader!
Get ready to start seeing more and more custom roms for the Atrix that basically will unleash its true potential.
Stay tuned...
P.S.- For me, more than Atrix specs, Lapdock addon alone blows the SGS2 out of the water easily.
I see them selling for around $550 used here in Canada.
Rayan said:
P.S.- For me, more than Atrix specs, Lapdock addon alone blows the SGS2 out of the water easily.
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That was the selling point for me also. Otherwise I probably would have gone with an iThingy. Once you root the phone to where you can tweak the lapdock packages and add lxterminal, etc, it is a great tool. j
The lapdock/Atrix combo has pretty much replaced my much heavier laptop for everything but astrophotography - and that's only because my astro camera is a firewire CCD which I don't think is ever going to be supported on the Atrix.
I am happy as hell with the Atrix (I like the fingerprint scanner) I was stuck with the captivate and it was horrible because the GPS just didn't work (which i needed). Bottom line buy the phone for the features you need and work well. If you don't need widgets get an iphone, if you don't mind crappy GPS get a Samsung.
with all electronics since the beginning of time new=expensive and not being subsidized by a major US carrier like at&t has a lot to do with it also. i remember back in the day when i bought the HTC Kaiser for $800 before it was release as the att tilt when this happened the price dropped quite a bit, the same will happened with the GS2 when it hits an north american carrier. european phones are generally more expensive since they are not usually subsidized by their carrier and come unlocked.
Higher price doesn't mean if a product is better than its rivals. ip4 is still more expensive than atrix, is it better ?
Semseddin said:
Higher price doesn't mean if a product is better than its rivals. ip4 is still more expensive than atrix, is it better ?
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For the average person? Probably. Better pictures, better screen, better battery life, very simplistic GUI. The average person will play casual games on their phone, browse the web, text, and use facebook. That's it. There's a reason why it's still the highest single selling phone on verizon and AT&T even though it's a year old and still costs $200 on contract.
Dont forget the LG Optimus 2x, its a fantastic phone with a fantastic screen, i liked it more than my Atrix but it doesnt support my new network (850mhz)
JiminSD said:
I am happy as hell with the Atrix (I like the fingerprint scanner) I was stuck with the captivate and it was horrible because the GPS just didn't work (which i needed). Bottom line buy the phone for the features you need and work well. If you don't need widgets get an iphone, if you don't mind crappy GPS get a Samsung.
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I purchased an Atrix when I finally bricked my Captivate. This is a really nice phone but I miss my Captivate. I'm going to send it off soon and probably go back to it. If you select the right ROM, there are zero GPS issues. I won't lie though, the GPS is amazing on this phone. I really just miss my AMOLED.
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