I modified my Galaxy Note to use inductive charging via a palm touchstone / patch.
Just a quick note. Not a whole lot to contribute here, because I largely followed the examples of the Qian Qi. That guy is awesome.
I don't think I voided a warranty, either. Only minimal teardown required (black plastic back, then the speaker section). Never came across a sticker I had to remove....
Useful links:
galaxy s inductive charging mod
evo 4g induction charging mod
galaxy note teardown video
galaxy note teardown pics
Notes:
- Buy a good soldering iron. Weller WESD51, set to 610 deg F, with 1/32" long conical tip, with lots of flux and lots of flux remover are the only reason I could do this. I can't stress enough the value of having good temperature control, knowledge of temperature, and so forth. I stumbled around with an "ordinary" soldering iron for a long time, and in hindsite, I can't believe I did so.
- Do not choke on the price. I already had a lot of soldering gear, and I bought $220 more. Spend the money. It's worth it.
- Watch the curious inventor youtube videos on soldering. This guy. Watch everything, several times. http://store.curiousinventor.com/
- You want 30 gauge wire. It's the only thing that just barely can be crammed in. I used the "Kynar" coated type. Buy at least 2 colors.
- as you look at the phone disassembled, with speaker on the bottom left, the +5 pin on the micro usb (MHL) port is the leftmost. I attached a wire to that, and a ground wire to the housing where the port was soldered.
- routed the wires under the speaker, then back, then into a VERY slight indentation into the battery compartment. used a blue "safe open" tool to help shape the wire / crimp ends. Once in the battery compartment, you're golden. Attach the inductive charging coil to the back of the samsung plastic back, add solder to the pads, and attach the wires.
- Attached is a picture with roughly how I routed wires. Red is +5V, Blue is ground. Be sure and double check if my recollection is right where the indentation is into the battery compartment. (that part is by memory).
- dont leave too much slack. it's really hard to get the samsung black pastic panel back on. Mine very slightly bulges.
- be careful where you put the charging sticky patch, because this phone is a little bit bigger than a palm pre. You have to consider if the phone can sit on the charger and "lock in" with the magnets. If you place it too high, it actually can't (in portrait)!
- Qian Qi had a really interesting point: most articles about how Li-ion batteries behave are wrong, and fully discharging the battery drastically reduces the number of cycles you have. So this is actually a very useful mod--whenever you don't use the phone, toss it on the charger.
Thanks for summing it up! Was actually thinking of doing this mod myself. Question: do you have a protective case on your Note? If so - what kind and how badly does it affect the magnetic properties?
No case. Especially because the note is so big, I think it would be unmanageable.
I took the samsung thin plastic back, and placed the Palm PRE (with charging coil still attached) on top of it, on the touchstone -- to figure out proper placement & mark with a pencil. I noticed a buzzing sound, coming from (I think) the induction coil on the palm pre back itself. I suspect if you use a case, this wont work well.
Also, the size/weight/placement of the galaxy note are such that the magnets are just barely strong enough to hold it. One time my phone was near, but off, the charger. I'm not sure if vibration from the phone did that, or my kids
In summary, I'm not sure how well it would work with a case. You might be able to research this on the net; among the 15 or 20 people that have bought a Pre, you might be able to find some info about the effect of a case on inductive charging.
tight squeeze?
im wanting to try this mod i have my touchstone on the way not thank you amazon but it seems like to me that the pad from the pre wouldnt fit under the cover of our phablet =/ could you post pics of the finished product and i think this is the only instance that i have seen someone attempt this with the note and i want to try it i love my note but would love it even more with inductive charging.
I am not the original author but I performed a different Touchstone mod and posted pics here:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...1-galaxy-note-touchstone-mod-photo-heavy.html
Hope it helps!
-darren
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Thank you!!!
Thank you so much for your post I have my materials on the way but I hadn't seen a detailed guide for the note other than this one and was worried I would have to solder directly to the usb pins which looked scary lol I did have two questions though would your mod work the same way for the at&t note? Specifically the points where you soldered to the phone and can wireless charging be performed through a case?
Hey, OP here. You may want to hold off just a bit. Mine is exhibiting some issues now. As in, it says "charging" but it doesn't do so wirelessly. The phone will stay "charging" but the battery % never goes up. (It was slow before, but would charge fully over a night).
Charging via USB still works.
It may be something simple; I'm not sure. But I need to crack it open and take a peek, and I haven't had time to do that yet because my phone is functional at the moment.
If nothing has conspicuously changed, there may be something about the design that isn't sustainable. Or maybe my solder joint halfway broke, or one of the wires got smashed enough so that it's partially broken...
I'll write back with my findings. Bug me if I don't
Thanks for the notice I was about to pull the trigger lol tbh I probably shouldn't attempt this I've never done a mod like this before and I'm not exactly a surgeon with a soldering iron lolvthatvbeing being said I'm going to attempt this on an old evo 4g I have before I do surgery on my baby lol plus I'm already familiar with the guts of an evo from screen repairs ill report back with my results
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Success it took some doing but I got it I haven't done the mod on my note yet but I did it on my evo last night and it works its rough I haven't cleaned it up yet but I'll post the pics I got this mod from www.goodandevo.net
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Thank you for this post.
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No prob I just wanted to see if i could do it and if I can do it with little soldering experience I'm sure most could do it I haven't done this mod to my galaxy note though as there is way less room in its a far more complicated mod than the evo because you have to make room for wires in a device samsung made as thin as possible and the way you have to route the wires I feel like the solder joints would just break
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For those who want to try this out but still have warrantee just buy a backcover, a micro usb plug and assemble it according to the directions here.If you need the note just take out the usb plug and the back cover and you're good to go.... Or leave it there.....
For those who don't know what pins to use on the usb plug:
Pin: 1 is 5V+ (red)
Pin: 5 is GND (black)
Works like a charm.......
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Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
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Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
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yes it affects the stylus sometimes it reacts with delay and sometimes it clicks although only hovers over it
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Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
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I was not a big stylus user; I can't stand the input lag. I didn't notice a difference, but I always considered the input speed unacceptable. Not sure why there would be any difference, anyway.
My big problem that I've never taken the time to address is that after some time, it's as though I can't pull enough current through the wires to charge. One day I need to crack this open & figure out why.
gr8 n interesting post
wonder how fast can a full charge be completed
regards
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gr8 n interesting post
wonder how fast can a full charge be completed
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It is slower than normal, but completed in a night. I still have not dismantled my phone to attempt to repair this, but I want to soon
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Hey there,
do any of you experience a strange electricity like sensation when touching the surface of the keyboard dock while it is charging and the transformer is docked? Especially directly to the left of the touchpad and on that middle part just above the keyboard keys. I want to know if I just have a thinly insulated one and should return it or if that is a general thing.
It's very noticable when sliding the finger over the surface lightly.
If you get it while charging plug the charger into the socket upside down, this should fix it.
While it's on USB no idea how to get rid of it but USB's current output isn't strong enough to do anything.
What the heck.. putting the charger in upside down did fix it!
Thank you very much! And why does that work?
I too feel the strange electricity feel when I move my fingers over the dock case while recharging. When I pull out the charger, the feeling is gone.
This is not normal!
Seriously, this is a combination of personal confirmation bias and a weird texture on the keyboard. You will notice you only feel if when your hand is actually moving across the surface, never just touching it. The dock case is made of plastic, so while it's possible for it to hold a static charge induced through friction it will NOT conduct any current from the power supply or battery. After some use this texture clearly wears in a little and the sensation stops.
Then why goes the feeling away when I unplug the charger and is there again when I replug the charger?
The feel is always there, only it is greater when sliding over ther surfaces or edges.
Seriously, there is an electric feel.
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Then why goes the feeling away when I unplug the charger and is there again when I replug the charger?
The feel is always there, only it is greater when sliding over ther surfaces or edges.
Seriously, there is an electric feel.
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Rather than reply, you should look up 'Confirmation Bias'
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Seriously, this is a combination of personal confirmation bias and a weird texture on the keyboard. You will notice you only feel if when your hand is actually moving across the surface, never just touching it. The dock case is made of plastic, so while it's possible for it to hold a static charge induced through friction it will NOT conduct any current from the power supply or battery. After some use this texture clearly wears in a little and the sensation stops.
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No, the sensation wil not stop if the surface were to "wear down", it has nothing to do with the texture of the device. The only way it will stop is by flipping the transformer around.
That said you will not get any type of shock from this (unless its realy defective).
I will believe it when someone gets a multimeter on there and confirms there is a potential between the case and ground, but since the case is an insulator I have serious doubts this will ever happen.
You realise that you're suggesting that a current is flowing from the power supply of your transformer, through the plastic case, into your hands and back to ground? That or you're feeling an electric field throgh the plastic, which must be on the order of several kilovolts to produce such a sensation..
Basically the concept that you are feeling an electrical phenomenon is not at all credible.
Ha I noticed this today only since getting to Spain and having to use the Euro plug which you can plug in 'upside down'.
I've never felt it in the UK and all morning I've been thinking "man thats wierd" - I log onto XDA and the 1st post I see relates to it... just turned over my adapater and its gone.
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Seriously, this is a combination of personal confirmation bias and a weird texture on the keyboard. You will notice you only feel if when your hand is actually moving across the surface, never just touching it. The dock case is made of plastic, so while it's possible for it to hold a static charge induced through friction it will NOT conduct any current from the power supply or battery. After some use this texture clearly wears in a little and the sensation stops.
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If you don't know anything about what you are claiming to understand, don't post. There ae several long threads on this earlier and the issue is real and has been verified. It is leakage from the wall charger and has been measured and verified using an osciliscope (which has no feeling) . With the plug in one direction there is about 5V AC while with the plug in the other orientation, there is about 60VAC. Sorry for being abrupt, but you claim in wrong.
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I will believe it when someone gets a multimeter on there and confirms there is a potential between the case and ground, but since the case is an insulator I have serious doubts this will ever happen.
You realise that you're suggesting that a current is flowing from the power supply of your transformer, through the plastic case, into your hands and back to ground? That or you're feeling an electric field throgh the plastic, which must be on the order of several kilovolts to produce such a sensation..
Basically the concept that you are feeling an electrical phenomenon is not at all credible.
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If you haven't noticed, the bezel of the Transformer and the body of the keyboard dock are metal or metallized.
Please search before you talk trash.
I have this feeling too, when i just got my TF.
I would like to try to plug the charger upside down, but over here, my plug has three legs, hence there is no way i can do that....
Any one who have solve this issue, please share.
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I have this feeling too, when i just got my TF.
I would like to try to plug the charger upside down, but over here, my plug has three legs, hence there is no way i can do that....
Any one who have solve this issue, please share.
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That's wierd, see though that's how it shoulda been in the first place, there should have been a ground prong on it so that this wouldn't even be possible to begin with. Doesn't the plug itself though come apart in 2 peices? I know it's supposed to but mine came togehter, but maybe pull it apart and flip the 2 peices? Dunno if that's possible since mine was already together so no clue what it looks like apart.
Is the dock case plastic? Looks and feels like metal (inside keyboard side).
OK, just plugged in the charger: I feel electricity. I turn the euro (I am in Belgium) plug round and the feeling is gone.
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That's wierd, see though that's how it shoulda been in the first place, there should have been a ground prong on it so that this wouldn't even be possible to begin with. Doesn't the plug itself though come apart in 2 peices? I know it's supposed to but mine came togehter, but maybe pull it apart and flip the 2 peices? Dunno if that's possible since mine was already together so no clue what it looks like apart.
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The country adapter (plug) snaps in and out very hard. Originally,it came as two pieces,but now comes assembled (maybe because there were issues getting it to assemble correctly). Mine came unassembled. There are only two conductors in the charger assy (hot and neutral) no ground. I am betting the third pin on your plug (gnd) is connected to nothing. When plugged in in onedirection there is leakage to the shield of the usb connector which is connected to the shield of the charge connector which is connected to the metal frame around the edge of the TF.
It's fun watching all this unfold for people who don't use the search tools here. OP, search for this, it's been exhausted in several threads, with measurements, testing, power supply revisions etc etc.
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It's fun watching all this unfold for people who don't use the search tools here. OP, search for this, it's been exhausted in several threads, with measurements, testing, power supply revisions etc etc.
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Sorry, then I am using the wrong search words because I cannot find those threads ...
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Sorry, then I am using the wrong search words because I cannot find those threads ...
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Look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077595
Hi all does the note 2 support inductive charging or do you have to replace the back? Its just I notice there is something in the back cover and i hear this is NFC for payments I was just wondering if it was also capable of inductive charging out of the box or if it has to be adapted in some way.
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Well it has the wireless chargimg tabs under the back cover like the s3 so im going to say yes
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If it does support this, I wonder why Samsung hasn't mentioned it in their presentations or included it within the official specs? Hope it is possible though.
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If it does support this, I wonder why Samsung hasn't mentioned it in their presentations or included it within the official specs? Hope it is possible though.
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im going to guess that there having troubles as the s3 wireless kit was supposed to be september and is as of yet a no show
I bet a palm pre inductive coil will fit under the battery cover :thumbup:
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Soo... here is a picture of the back... and yeah... i also think they have at least integrated the connectors for wireless charging into my note 2 xD
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Out of the box it does not support wireless charging. I suspect it could be modified to use a Palm inductive charger though. I've been messing with my Note 2 and a Palm Pre inductive charger for the last half hour or so. The PCB of the Pre back cover fits into the little groove next to the micro SD slot (I had to cut a small part of the PCB off - see the red circle in the last image) and the coil/magnet cluster fits very easily between the back cover and the battery. Visually/tactilely it's pretty much impossible to detect when they've been put in there.
Unfortunately, I've never modded a device to use inductive charging before so I'm a little hesitant to proceed.
wow... that looks very good ...
Hmmm but without a technical background I would not risk that... you have at least to measure all that stuff ...
(sorry for being no help)...
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Hirudin said:
Out of the box it does not support wireless charging. I suspect it could be modified to use a Palm inductive charger though. I've been messing with my Note 2 and a Palm Pre inductive charger for the last half hour or so. The PCB of the Pre back cover fits into the little groove next to the micro SD slot (I had to cut a small part of the PCB off - see the red circle in the last image) and the coil/magnet cluster fits very easily between the back cover and the battery. Visually/tactilely it's pretty much impossible to detect when they've been put in there.
Unfortunately, I've never modded a device to use inductive charging before so I'm a little hesitant to proceed.
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i would rather not to do it, i think note 2 is the ame as Galaxy s3, they have the capability you just need to wait for the battery cover replacement sold. or you can take buy one fro S3 and rip out whatever in that back cover (coil) put it in your note 2 back cover. http://www.androidauthority.com/wir...samsung-galaxy-s3-hits-verizon-stores-105433/
Its all just my theory though.... for me better just wait rather risking my gorgeous note 2 which is note yet in my hand right now....
Hello guys,
Former Palmer/webOS user here. Actually, toying with the inductive back of Palm Pre & Touchstone charger, is not that risky nor difficult, not at all. I've tested it as a kind of proof of concept, with my SGS 2 - just put the coils/PCB assembly at the back of phone cover, and soldered two wires to the coils's output contacts. These two wires, I just ran to the micro USB plug. When I've connected that plug to the phone's micro USB port and put the phone on the Touchstone charger, it starts charging - that's all. Coil's integrated PCB sorts out things like converting AC/induction back to DC, 5V etc. What you are getting out of it, is your pure, standard, USB-compatible juice.
The only reason why I wasn't using it permanently, was that I didn't wan't to solder anything on my SGS 2's PCB (didn't feel like it is a smart idea, with it's tiny tracks and my soldering skills - or rather the lack of thereof). And having micro USB plug stuck in phone's bottom all the time, didn't appeal to me, somehow
But if the SGS3/Note2 already had the required contacts behind it's back cover, it will be a breeze DIY project. And one damn handy and cool-loking charger on your desk, believe me.
I'll try to post some photos of my POC setup later on.
Best regards!
Search first....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951493
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I purchased a couple of kits - one was just the inductive charging module for the phone, which I installed and separately picked up a couple of charging bases; the other one was a complete kit.
This kit (not by this seller, but the photo is the same as the kit I purchased) is very elegant, thin, and easy to install. You can barely see the bulge in the back of the case. The only problem I have is that the magnets seem to be slightly too weak so the position is a bit inexact. I've added a couple of extra magnets but will end up replacing the originals with my slightly-stronger replacements in the end I suspect. Overall this kit, although expensive on Ebay does the job and looks good.
This charging module was easy to install but the one I received had the polarity of the charging pins reversed so I had to make a modification to get it working. Here is a post of my preliminary mod to get it working; since that post I've done some clean-up but the one linked above thinner so I'm using it as my primary right now.
Maybe this help!!!
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Any one know is this base will work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TOUCHSTO...ocking_Stations_Keyboards&hash=item43b759a9c9
or does it have to be the other?
raiu said:
Any one know is this base will work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TOUCHSTO...ocking_Stations_Keyboards&hash=item43b759a9c9
or does it have to be the other?
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It will work but that's too expensive.
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So I read that this device has wireless charging but I can't find an instance of the problem I'm having. Is there something special you have to enable to get it to charge with a qi pad? Neither the nexus orb nor my og lg pad will charge it. I thought the protective plastic might have caused this but even after peeling it back I don't get a charging indicator. Seems my nexus luck follows me wherever. I got one with a nice display and no physical defects seemingly on the first try. Am I doing something wrong here?
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Jayrod1980 said:
So I read that this device has wireless charging but I can't find an instance of the problem I'm having. Is there something special you have to enable to get it to charge with a qi pad? Neither the nexus orb nor my og lg pad will charge it. I thought the protective plastic might have caused this but even after peeling it back I don't get a charging indicator. Seems my nexus luck follows me wherever. I got one with a nice display and no physical defects seemingly on the first try. Am I doing something wrong here?
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Mine charged wirelessly right away, there was nothing I had to manually enable. I tried it on 2 different LG WCP-700 Qi chargers.
Mine had the same issue, and it was the connectors for the coil on the inside. if you feel like opening the case you can try to clean them. that worked for me or just exchange the unit.
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Mine had the same issue, and it was the connectors for the coil on the inside. if you feel like opening the case you can try to clean them. that worked for me or just exchange the unit.
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Mine was working and now it isn't as well.
I would check the back and see if it feels like you have space. in the case.
Mine seems to be charging fine on my Nexus 4 Orb.
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Mine had the same issue, and it was the connectors for the coil on the inside. if you feel like opening the case you can try to clean them. that worked for me or just exchange the unit.
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Can you tell us what tools you used to open the device? I'm guessing suction cups, perhaps from iFixIt? Or did you go the spudger route?
As for cleaning the coils, are you referring to the 2 or 4 gold pressure contacts that are present on the back of the casing once the device is opened/separated?
Not to sound like a ****, OP, but a little searching would have shown you this thread, about the same issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2379718
I used a thin guitar pick and started at the bottom of the Screen next to the USB charging port and slowly opened it to the left side of the screen, ( the Side that does not have any buttons) and slowly went up the screen to the top and keep going till I was able to separate the the device from the back unit. But I caution you to be careful as you can easily break the case as IFixit mentions in.
the 4 connector are the ones, that I am referring to, mine device looked like they were not clean. I cleaned them up and after putting together again the wireless charging works.
hope this helps
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I used a thin guitar pick and started at the bottom of the Screen next to the USB charging port and slowly opened it to the left side of the screen, ( the Side that does not have any buttons) and slowly went up the screen to the top and keep going till I was able to separate the the device from the back unit. But I caution you to be careful as you can easily break the case as IFixit mentions in.
the 4 connector are the ones, that I am referring to, mine device looked like they were not clean. I cleaned them up and after putting together again the wireless charging works.
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Yes same problem with mine. Qi Charging did not work and neither did the NFC, although it did on the first day. Opened it up and cleaned off the gunk off the four contacts and Qi and NFC started working again.
Thanks for the advice... Everywhere was sold out near me. After a 55 mile drive to best buy I exchanged it... Way better than waiting on play store agony. This replacement seems better. Screen so far is the same nice quality and everything actually works. Wireless charging is fine. Good to know that this is easy to take apart. My problem though with opening the device is that I tend to get creaks etc afterward. I did search prior BTW... I guess I didn't look hard enough
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I wonder about those units where people have not tried Qi Charging or NFC and how rampant a problem this is.
I swear for as smart.and.as great as this phone is, the easiest things to fix which pose the biggest.problems arent.fixed. Having the phone plugged.in.while using.it in landscape creates huge stress.on the port. So much that the cable gets looser as the pins are bent. Stupid samsung with their.idiotic location for.ports, but I.digress... has anyone found a longterm fix for this? . I thinking like a plastic moount that clips.to.
The bottom of the phone and.encases the beginning of the charger cable to prevent any stress in any direction? My temporary solution is I rubberband the beginning of the cable in a few loops as if I have it zip tied. This prevents any minor tugging from directly pulling the port.
First of all new USB 3 port cost about $14 and could be replaced by user in about 30 min even if you don't have 1 yr warranty. You can use any USB 2 wire to charge Note 3, some are much thinner and more flexible, than the factory cable. And with at least 6 hours screen time I can't imagine running out of power before night, when I put it on charger and go to sleep, but I do have full time job and little kids so actually never had a chance to use it for 6 hrs in 1 day anyhow. Maybe you need bigger battery and if you don't like Samsung design maybe another phone, I don't see anything wrong with it, otherwise would not buy it, heard Apple is a popular brand, but never actually used it.
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First of all new USB 3 port cost about $14 and could be replaced by user in about 30 min even if you don't have 1 yr warranty.
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I hate giving a reply that doesn't really help the OP, but I can somewhat sorta agree with this comment. Sorta.
Because I got the Note 3 now but haven't broken its port yet.
However I did have the Note 2 and the Galaxy S2 and there was that issue if you're careless. Sloppy plugging and stress, sometimes a few drops of water falling on the port too and shorting it, etc. Anyway, I'm very unskilled and clumsy regarding basic electronics repairs but still managed to replace the USB board on the S2 with Ebay parts. It was less than 20 USD, the board and a kit of screwdrivers. It really is very easy to replace that part if you damage the USB port (getting the infamous "charging / not charging intermittent warnings, even when the phones are not connected to anything).
I seriously doubt the N2 or N3 are much more complex. (I used repair videos on YouTube for the S2, I'm sure they will pop up for the N3 if relevant)
Not so with other components (Screen, for instance). So take some care with it and don't worry too much because even home-repair is fairly accessible and cheap in that case.
Okay let me paint you a picture..I play aot of poker. there is an outlet under the table so I have my phone plugged in sitting on the rail behind my chips as I either watch 24/7 movies or play games.but since my phone is horizontal, naturally gravity works its magic and puts pressure on the port. not only that, but the less slack I have the more pressure is applied.
so as you can see my circumstances are very specific to my regular usage of this device. hence I utilize rubber bands.sometimes.
If you guys are really concerned about the usb port on the phone being damaged, maybe something like the qi wireless charger can help.
Or maybe buying a spare battery.
Or buy a right angled usb cable
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so I broke the tab in the usb port in my nexus 4. I bought an induction charger but it doesn't seem to be charging the thing very well. It will sometimes turn on and I can see the battery is at 0% and it shuts down. do you think there is a chance there is a short in the port itself making it so that the battery drains itself? I left it charging overnight with no luck. What to do next? remove the port entirely while I wait for the new usb daughter board to come in the mail?
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so I broke the tab in the usb port in my nexus 4. I bought an induction charger but it doesn't seem to be charging the thing very well. It will sometimes turn on and I can see the battery is at 0% and it shuts down. do you think there is a chance there is a short in the port itself making it so that the battery drains itself? I left it charging overnight with no luck. What to do next? remove the port entirely while I wait for the new usb daughter board to come in the mail?
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I think it's more likely that the broken USB tab is causing either a short or has broken a connection the phone expects, which fools the circuitry into thinking the phone is plugged in to USB, which won't allow it to charge via Qi. You could try charging it with the daughterboard removed, but I'd be surprised if it works. Hopefully you have a back-up phone while you wait for the part, even if it's a RAZR V3 or Nokia 3310. SIM won't match, obviously, but you can probably pick up an adapter locally.
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I think it's more likely that the broken USB tab is causing either a short or has broken a connection the phone expects, which fools the circuitry into thinking the phone is plugged in to USB, which won't allow it to charge via Qi. You could try charging it with the daughterboard removed, but I'd be surprised if it works. Hopefully you have a back-up phone while you wait for the part, even if it's a RAZR V3 or Nokia 3310. SIM won't match, obviously, but you can probably pick up an adapter locally.
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That makes sense. I do have an old samsung tmobile phone that lasts about 4 hours on its battery. I guess I might be using that for a few days. I'ts at home though and I'm at work. It would be nice if this thing would just work. I need to find a t5 torx wrench and scew it up more......
mikkowus said:
That makes sense. I do have an old samsung tmobile phone that lasts about 4 hours on its battery. I guess I might be using that for a few days. I'ts at home though and I'm at work. It would be nice if this thing would just work. I need to find a t5 torx wrench and scew it up more......
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Some advice for someone who hasn't taken this phone apart yet:
First, go to ifixit and familiarize yourself with the teardown guide. There are also some youtube videos that are helpful (if you can't find them immediately, look for screen replacement guides.
Second, you'll need something thin and flat, and hopefully not with sharp edges. They make tools for this, but I doubt you'll be willing to order them and wait. Myself, I used the nail file from a keychain Swiss Army Knife. It's possible, even likely you'll cosmetically damage the plastic up a bit. If you have a hair drier (or even a heat gun), this can aid in softening up the adhesive. In any case, go slowly.
Do the disassembly over a fluffy towel. There are many tiny screws, and a fluffy towel will trap them rather than having them bounce away and disappear.
As I write this, another thought occurs to me. If you can, wait a few more days, but order yourself a new battery off eBay. Many sellers include the needed disassembly tools (including a T5 TORX, small Philips, and the plastic separating tools). Your Nexus 4 is probably 1.5-2.5 years old by now, which means your battery has had well over 500 cycles. At this point, you've lost upwards of 20% your battery's original capacity. Or don't wait, but order a new battery anyway and reopen the phone when you get it. The degradation of a battery is slow and one really doesn't notice it until that day you think to yourself "it seems like it used to last longer". Indeed, you may open up your phone to discover a puffed-out battery in desperate need of replacement anyway.
Planterz said:
Some advice for someone who hasn't taken this phone apart yet:
First, go to ifixit and familiarize yourself with the teardown guide. There are also some youtube videos that are helpful (if you can't find them immediately, look for screen replacement guides.
Second, you'll need something thin and flat, and hopefully not with sharp edges. They make tools for this, but I doubt you'll be willing to order them and wait. Myself, I used the nail file from a keychain Swiss Army Knife. It's possible, even likely you'll cosmetically damage the plastic up a bit. If you have a hair drier (or even a heat gun), this can aid in softening up the adhesive. In any case, go slowly.
Do the disassembly over a fluffy towel. There are many tiny screws, and a fluffy towel will trap them rather than having them bounce away and disappear.
As I write this, another thought occurs to me. If you can, wait a few more days, but order yourself a new battery off eBay. Many sellers include the needed disassembly tools (including a T5 TORX, small Philips, and the plastic separating tools). Your Nexus 4 is probably 1.5-2.5 years old by now, which means your battery has had well over 500 cycles. At this point, you've lost upwards of 20% your battery's original capacity. Or don't wait, but order a new battery anyway and reopen the phone when you get it. The degradation of a battery is slow and one really doesn't notice it until that day you think to yourself "it seems like it used to last longer". Indeed, you may open up your phone to discover a puffed-out battery in desperate need of replacement anyway.
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Cool. I did end up ordering a new battery because of just that thought. It will be coming Friday though so I might not want to wait. I'll probably end up opening it up twice.. I also happened to open the phone about a 3 weeks after I bought it as somehow the screen cracked. I also have a heatgun. The phone is pretty old. I got it on release.