Android compatibility confirmed and more! - Sailfish General

http://jolla.com/media/documents/130916_press_release.pdf
Sailfish OS runs on common Android hardware
Jolla has made a major breakthrough in Android hardware compatibility by developing Sailfish OS to run on
common hardware produced for Android, particularly smartphones and tablets. Vendors interested to utilize
Sailfish OS are now able to develop phones and tablets based on many different chipset and hardware
configurations. This new level of compatibility will enable device vendors who use Sailfish OS to fully utilize the
existing Android hardware ecosystem.
Jolla believes that this breakthrough offers growth opportunities of significant scale for Sailfish OS globally,
especially in China. “We believe Sailfish with Android compatibility is a highly relevant mobile operating system
option for major mobile companies in Europe and in Asia. We are already in discussions with several major Asian
vendors regarding this opportunity,” says Tomi Pienimäki.
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I really hope that now I can get an Android port for my Xperia T

I was actually just recently imagining sailfish running on my gnex, hope it can became a reality, or even on the future nexus 5 or G2. Now that would be awesome.

zacomaco said:
I was actually just recently imagining sailfish running on my gnex, hope it can became a reality, or even on the future nexus 5 or G2. Now that would be awesome.
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If installing the OS on android hw by us will be that easy than how would they make money? Hopefully other companies will pay for it.

goosebumps4 said:
If installing the OS on android hw by us will be that easy than how would they make money? Hopefully other companies will pay for it.
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Mainly for exposure and to create interest like ubuntu attempted with their builds for the nexus devices earlier in the year.

uh oh! will you look at all those apps.
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uh oh! will you look at all those apps.
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Congrats to all jolla fans. Now i will see around about the most wright android device to buy and install jolla on it =

Apparently they will announce the specs this week
(http://m.digitoday.fi/?page=showSingleNews&newsID=201312920 ... use google translate )

Was going to come here and write about this but you were faster! Couldn't do it at work. But most importantly, just tipped this! Hopefully we'll see it in XDA portal/news

-.-SayaN-.- said:
So possible to run dual boot :angel: :fingers-crossed:
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well looks like Sailfish OS will support nexus devices in the near future!!!
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https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/380226774698696704

zacomaco said:
well looks like Sailfish OS will support nexus devices in the near future!!!
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https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/380226774698696704
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without the official support of jolla.

Is there any hardware restriction of jolla OS?
Or the list of device which are available to run this OS smoothly like a charm?

Nope, but Jolla show us last year, that sailfish os works good on nokia N950/N9. N9 has 1 Ghz single Core and 1GB Ram.

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Or the list of device which are available to run this OS smoothly like a charm?
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Sailfish is not available, so there is such list. There is no source code, and no binaries available.

Sailfish OS will you libhybris for running on top of android hw.
here is QML demo on Qt5 on libhybris on Qualcomm chipset.
So atleast there is no major problems with 3D aceleration

don't get it
why do we need a whole new OS? if the apps and the HW is android, why not just create an elaborate android skin and be done with it? by the end of the day, this is what it is- a glorified android skin...
BTW, this is just a comment, not an attack...

natalietsur said:
why do we need a whole new OS? if the apps and the HW is android, why not just create an elaborate android skin and be done with it? by the end of the day, this is what it is- a glorified android skin...
BTW, this is just a comment, not an attack...
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Why another android skin? Why not create a whole new OS? If, 5 years ago, Google think like you today we haven't Android. It's the same story that repeat itself again, again and again...

natalietsur said:
why do we need a whole new OS? if the apps and the HW is android, why not just create an elaborate android skin and be done with it? by the end of the day, this is what it is- a glorified android skin...
BTW, this is just a comment, not an attack...
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SailfishOS is free as in freedom, Android is not that free
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Someone posted instructions on how to port the SDK image of Sailfish over to N9 on jollausers.com . This is only the basic UI and it's missing all the main Jolla apps like calls, maps, mail, browser, sms, camera, etc.. It's just for dev's so they can test their apps.
From that page comments section
username mike7b4 his comment lays it down for you:
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Notice that Jolla will never have full resources to FULLY port Sailfishos to N9.
What they will do is probadly update the image guide at merproject wiki how to make sailfish image from kickstart file etc…
Then its upto the community to make:
1. GFX driver with Wayland work smooth most important issue. So if you are a GFX hacker start work
2. Make GPS work (those bits are closed source so we have to reverse engineer that stuff because GPS lacks public specs how the Nokia propirairity binary protocol works
3. Make NFC work (same here the daemon in Harmattan is closed source, maybe we can use midlayer from android via libhybris or rewite from scratch)
4. Make sure dialing/sms works and make an UI or use nemo UI because AFAIK that bits is not included in sailfishSDK?
5. Settings app for wifi etc.. Here we can probadly reuse nemo settings apps that is okey
6. Make camera work again right now its not working sice X11 -> Wayland AFAIK
7. Make wifi working(it actually works we just need to make the nemo settings app work)
8. Make USB SDK mode not disconnect
Stuff that we probadly never will see:
1. Core sailfish apps like GPS app/cameraapp and so on.
2. Android Compability layer.
But right now the most important step IMHO is to make sure USB/Wifi connections works so developers can test our sailfish apps on a real device when waiting for our Jollas
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I'm not a developer but this guy sounds like he knows what needs to be done.

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HD2 OS preferences by consumers (6.5/6.5.3/6.5.5/7/android)

pleasy reply and post why you prefer your selection over others.
this is a discussion thread. feel free to write your opinions.
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My opinion is that this is a useless thread.
the poll is the intresting part.
i simply can't open a poll without a thread.
HD2Owner said:
the poll is the intresting part.
i simply can't open a poll without a thread.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632
Ok,Simple
My Home Desktop is a Windows
My Home Notebook is a Windows
My Work Notebook is a Windows
My company's system is a Network of Windows
..........
So for compatibility I prefer Windows Phone 7.
A Windows will be FULLY compatible a Windows Mobile
After all they are brothers.....
Besides HD2 is a Windows Mobile
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632
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i saw this but it doesn't differenciate between 6.5 and 6.5.X..
thats the most intresting part... multiple choice is also more detailed in the end...
it's also obvious that in a android dev thread most votes go to android...
Definitely Android!
The more i see from WP7, the more i get bored.. It´s just too simple (squares + text).
android and win 6.5..
waxfresh said:
Definitely Android!
The more i see from WP7, the more i get bored.. It´s just too simple (squares + text).
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if we (da_g to be specific) are able to open up wp7 for unsigned apps etc. it will be a intresting os.
otherwise it's simply too locked down for my taste.
i would love to see android running on this device..
would love to see android on the HD2, went to the HD2 from a Hero and miss the choice of apps on the market.
Well... WinMo 6.5.x isn't so bad, but I feel it a little 'patched'. It's like a car with lots and lots of customizations... but the chassis and motor remains the same. And the closed nature of the SO prevents remodelling these parts.
Anyway, it's not a bad choice, after all.
WP7 is a no-no for me. Just some snippets:
Wikipedia said:
The phones also require a minimum of 8GB of Flash memory since Windows Phone 7 will not support SD card expansion slots.
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Wikipedia said:
The OS may not support multitasking for 3rd party applications or copy & paste at launch. Microsoft has stated that they will implement the copy and paste feature later on via Windows Phone Update and will also implement other features, such as system-wide multi-tasking in ways that make sense, for future releases.
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According to Microsoft documentations, software updates will be delivered to Windows Phone users via Microsoft Update, as they are for desktop Windows users, and the software component, called Windows Phone Update, exists both on the phone (for smaller updates, over-the-air) and in the Zune PC software (for larger updates, via USB connection). Users will be notified to tether their phones to a PC if such an update is required.
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Windows Phone 7 will only run applications that have first been approved by Microsoft and will only be available via the Windows Phone Marketplace.
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Just NO, THANKS.
So, Android is the sane election for me.
And for those who say 'buy a phone with android instead the HD2"... Well, it's a work phone. I didn't choose it
First off, thank you HD2Owner for all of your intresting posts for XDA.
except the WP7 picture, all you have showed as the OS picture is the Sense picture. You should have showed the actual OS home page like WP7( not the second party application, the look becomes appealing in judgment).
On the other hand I would like to play with Android and so as WP7 no matter how restricted they might be but since I have not had an experience with either of them I would love to have them before judgment.
You should have added WinMo 6.1 as there are people still in love with it(developers as well)
I like the regular 6.5 more that 6.5X because it looks simpler but then I am using the Chucky ROM 6.5X and that is simple but problem is that when you theme the ROM you have to theme everything but in lots of time the Devs have not the time to do so. As far as the function 6.5X is better than the rest of them but we are all human and do like change much.
Love to see both Ando and WP7 on HD2 Dual boot or Triple would be awesome.
Thaks for this thread.
until I try windows 7, wimo 6.5 takes the cake.
Android plz!
HD2Owner said:
i saw this but it doesn't differenciate between 6.5 and 6.5.X..
thats the most intresting part... multiple choice is also more detailed in the end...
it's also obvious that in a android dev thread most votes go to android...
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well it seems that the demand for android isn't just because of the android dev thread
android rocks
I want to see Android OS running on HD2. Is definitely BETTER OS and is developing all the time,also it doesnt need the hardware requiments that WP7 need to run
This poll is skewed.
You have Windows Mobile versions separated yet only one Android version when there are several as well. 6.x should be just one category.
I prefer to have WinMo 6.5.x as my full-time OS, but I definitely want android to boot into when I want to. Luckily, that's how it will be when android gets working on it.
I almost voted for android because that's what I'm most interested in there being more development in, but then I though about it and voted WinMo because that's what I'll still use most of the time. I'm wondering if some of the people who voted for android did so because they knew that WinMo would still be there on the phone and would still use it a lot of the time, or if they would really want android if it got rid of winmo all together. Would everyone who voted android still want just android even if it didn't function fully like most android ports? (ie... didn't use camera, bluetooth, etc... if it didn't make use of all the hardware properly?)
Android/WP7 can wait
Wow, that many people prefer 2 operating systems for the HD2 that don't even run on the HD2. I think the cooked roms for the HD2 are fantastic, especially with 6.5.5. Yes, I'll play with android if and when it is available for the HD2. In the meantime I am stoked to have fantastic hardware with an open OS than I can always tweak and modify to my liking.
Android.
Android on the HD2 would be it for me, especially Froyo.

[Q] Ubuntu/Windows On eLocity A7

Is it possible to get the eLocity A7 to run Ubuntu or Windows?
Windows is a no.
Window Mobile might be a possibility.
The Ubuntu idea is kind of intriguing, I think Ubuntu Netbook Remix may have actually supported the ARM processor architecture. Gonna have to look into that.
No matter what though, there will be sizable performance problems.
Windows Mobile would be amazing to dual boot on this, but along with ubuntu, it ran perfectly on my IBM 1.5 Ghz single, no reason it shouldn't run perfectly on a 1.0 Dual core
touchpr02 said:
Windows Mobile would be amazing to dual boot on this, but along with ubuntu, it ran perfectly on my IBM 1.5 Ghz single, no reason it shouldn't run perfectly on a 1.0 Dual core
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Its not an apples to apples comparison. Completely different processor architecture. Completely different instruction set. Not even on the same page.
netstat_EVO said:
Its not an apples to apples comparison. Completely different processor architecture. Completely different instruction set. Not even on the same page.
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It's very cruel but... Moreover to port Windows Mobile we need WM SDK and sources. And the main problem - how to build drivers (between OS and hardware layers). They are not similar on android drivers and no one employee who builds our tablets will not give it to us. Never.
Simple way to get WM - go to store and buy WM tablet) Truly)
Another way - buy dual or triple-boot chinese tablet like SmartQ.
Yeah, Viewsonic has one model with dualboot - Viewsonic Viewpad 10 (don't confuse with G Tablet) with WM and ... Android 1.6
But, I think they are taking the mickey out of us))
Why would you want Windows on this device? Seriously the performance hit would cripple any use. I wondered about Ubuntu or more realistically another type of light linux like Vector linux or slackware. It would run fine on this device if as the previous poster pointed out that the arm processor is supported.
I think the issue you would run into is touch sceeen supporr and drivers. So you would be able to install and but may not be able to use.
Honestly Android is so good on this device I thnk I woupd rather focus on Honeycomb rather than another os. Why re-invent the wheel when you don't need to.
Rob
The single touch hardware of the elocity may actually make the Ubuntu multitouch drivers work smoother. I have made many a touchpad emulate multitouch in Ubuntu and now 10.04 and above supports it straight away.
Interesting idea to find out. I had Ubuntu working well on the Dell duo netbook with the flip screen, but the axis info got messed up after a reboot of Linux when the screen would flip from netbook to tablet. Other than that the accelerometer and touch (even pinch to zoom on single touch screen) worked well.
Ubuntu and Android are both based on the GNU/Linux OS. The core OS and the drivers are all the same. You can just move the driver files that are on the stock A7 to any Linux based OS with the same class CPU (arm/intel/ppc/etc). Unless it changed recently, the Linux kernel supports running drivers that are compiled for a different kernel version so you can even mis-match kernel-driver versions if you want (and are a little lucky). There isn't any reason why you can't just leave the stock A7 kernel/drivers and replace all the Android files from Ubuntu/Slackware/whatever as long as they are compiled for the right CPU class. Android is just a collection of open source software configured to work together the way Google wanted. Android isn't a real OS or even a real piece of software. It's just a very hacked up GNU/Linux OS that Google ripped off from the open source community and tried to sell. The open source license allows them to sell it, but requires that they also give the source code for free. That's why so many "unofficial" Android devices don't work with Google's apt store. Google blacklists anyone who doesn't pay them to use "their" open source software. If you removed the open source GNU/Linux from Android you would have less than 1% of the original byte count and nothing useful...
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Ubuntu and Android are both based on the GNU/Linux OS. The core OS and the drivers are all the same. You can just move the driver files that are on the stock A7 to any Linux based OS with the same class CPU (arm/intel/ppc/etc). Unless it changed recently, the Linux kernel supports running drivers that are compiled for a different kernel version so you can even mis-match kernel-driver versions if you want (and are a little lucky). There isn't any reason why you can't just leave the stock A7 kernel/drivers and replace all the Android files from Ubuntu/Slackware/whatever as long as they are compiled for the right CPU class. Android is just a collection of open source software configured to work together the way Google wanted. Android isn't a real OS or even a real piece of software. It's just a very hacked up GNU/Linux OS that Google ripped off from the open source community and tried to sell. The open source license allows them to sell it, but requires that they also give the source code for free. That's why so many "unofficial" Android devices don't work with Google's apt store. Google blacklists anyone who doesn't pay them to use "their" open source software. If you removed the open source GNU/Linux from Android you would have less than 1% of the original byte count and nothing useful...
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http://trsohmers.com/2011/03/06/how-to-run-ubuntu-on-the-motorola-xoom/
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Ubuntu and Android are both based on the GNU/Linux OS. The core OS and the drivers are all the same. You can just move the driver files that are on the stock A7 to any Linux based OS with the same class CPU (arm/intel/ppc/etc). Unless it changed recently, the Linux kernel supports running drivers that are compiled for a different kernel version so you can even mis-match kernel-driver versions if you want (and are a little lucky). There isn't any reason why you can't just leave the stock A7 kernel/drivers and replace all the Android files from Ubuntu/Slackware/whatever as long as they are compiled for the right CPU class. Android is just a collection of open source software configured to work together the way Google wanted. Android isn't a real OS or even a real piece of software. It's just a very hacked up GNU/Linux OS that Google ripped off from the open source community and tried to sell. The open source license allows them to sell it, but requires that they also give the source code for free. That's why so many "unofficial" Android devices don't work with Google's apt store. Google blacklists anyone who doesn't pay them to use "their" open source software. If you removed the open source GNU/Linux from Android you would have less than 1% of the original byte count and nothing useful...
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you are on saturday night live, right? you are kidding with all this fun stuff coming out..
you should really find a new business like standup comedy or like that, its your business
Lol Is ubuntu a possibility
rombold said:
http://trsohmers.com/2011/03/06/how-to-run-ubuntu-on-the-motorola-xoom/
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This is also similar:
http://nexusonehacks.net/nexus-one-hacks/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-android/
Wonder if this is possible on the A7?
if you search xda, there are other Tegra2 devices where they already prepped a ubuntu with drivers. .but they all use VNC as screen, it seems not one want to use the primary screen, they want a dual setup
i think even XOOM got the solution, which i think you can use too. (the guide i mean)
http://androlinux.com/
Anyone taken a look into this?

[Q] Windows 8

The new windows 8 will have arm tegra support, will I be able to install windows 8 on my xoom?
we'll see when it comes out.
The first public beta should be out within a month or so, and if you know where to look you should be able to find the very early alpha/beta leaks. I have no idea what level of work would be required to boot it on existing hardware or even if it's possible with the kit we have today
As far as I know, the main idea of windows 8 was the ability to run on a MUCH LARGER range of devices and architectures. They demoed win 8 on a ARM tablet a long time ago. Who knows what they have accomplished since then. All i know is that we would have a lot of re-partitioning to do on our xooms to fit win 8 on our limited /system partitions. But then again, idk if it will run on a Linux kernel. I only know the basics.
Just my 2¢
It could be run native, but I don't think it'll happen. The biggest loophole for Windows Phone 7 to be ported to Android is the fact that it's closed source. Therefore, there isn't been any developer trying to get WP7 running on an Android-phone. And therefore, I think the same loophole applies for Windows 8.
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It could be run native, but I don't think it'll happen. The biggest loophole for Windows Phone 7 to be ported to Android is the fact that it's closed source. Therefore, there isn't been any developer trying to get WP7 running on an Android-phone. And therefore, I think the same loophole applies for Windows 8.
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I totally forgot about it being closed source. >.> ....Well if win8 is put on a tegra device nativley(spelling?), then could porting it to our device be easier?
Yes, then it would be easier. Someone ported WebOS to an Android-phone that had nearly the same hardware despite being closed source, so it COULD be possible if it was put on Tegra2. But I doubt that, since Kal El is coming.
Its not windows 8 running on tegra...its the drivers....i don;t know who is gonna go through all the troubles making specific drivers for xoom...only thing i could hope for is that windows 8 has a big database for generic drivers that works...
well windows 8 dev downloads are available at 8pm PT (2hours from now) would we know about preloaded generic drivers then?
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well windows 8 dev downloads are available at 8pm PT (2hours from now) would we know about preloaded generic drivers then?
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As per Engadget's review of win 8
ARM devices will be supported, but not in the developer preview
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I have the dev build, if I put it on a usb stick can't I just set my xoom to boot from usb
Kidding, Kidding. Anyway, I was thinking that since the xoom supports USB host, and should supports ARM, it should be installable like a normal computer if you can somehow boot the installer - and assuming there is at least basic driver support for the necessities.
I suppose they would also need to release an ARM build.
in essence yes
or even if there is a running arm version all we would really need is the install.wim...nothing else is really super important
But I am thinking that Microsoft is being strict with ARM because they may be designing it specifically for oems, so they may not have a general vendor license like with Microsoft laptops/computer/netbook
Yes Win8 will support ARM. No, the current dev build does not contain that code. The build number will be higher, they don't even have the setup done for ARM support yet. Windows 8 is not Windows 7 and will not be bound by the same restrictions when it comes to hardware as previous Windows versions have been. This includes application development. It will be easier then ever to create applications by simply using HTML5 and CSS3 for example.
When Windows 8 ARM support code does make its way into our hands I will be pushing this onto Tegra2 (Atrix4G) hardware asap. Stay tuned, because as soon as MS gives me the code I'm working on the port/drivers. Because these devices are SoC's you are not going to run into the same level of hardware issues with drivers as you may have previously. With a SoC, your support for that ARM SoC will/should include support for the entire SoC, nothing less. You should expect that at least. This includes, audio, video, network, etc. Everything is included on chip now. Welcome to the future folks. Forget what you thought it took to build a computer and realize that now everything is built onto a single chip die. It's really impressive. So impressive that IBM is now stacking these SoC's together with 3M adhesive which dessipates heat. This means you can have a CPU up to 1000 times faster than we have now and still not use up hardly any power or physical space in the package. Times are changing for sure.
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New mobile os "Sailfish OS" thoughts?

I dont know if anyone else has seen the news on a new os called sailfish.. by a company called jolla. I guess they are from old meego times..
Looks like they want it to run on all devices.. and even hope for andtoid apps support..
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Anyone interested.. maybe a port would be neatvto try,.. the two latest nexus phones are perfect because they have no nav buttons.. and the ui is buttonless.. all gesture and swiping.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/21/jolla-launches-sailfish-os/
Sdk.. https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Main_Page
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I don't see much of an opening for a new player in the Smartphone war but good for them for trying.
The name alone is awful. I wouldn't want it on my phone.
FireFox OS maybe.
It's free software, and no DRM, unlike Android. But like Replicant, it won't get market share.
Couple interesting features worth discussion IMO:
"true multitasking" was the main focus. Active programs can be pinned to the homescreen as tiles
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I loved MeeGo on my Nokia N9 and its swiping setup. I would love to be able to use it on my Nexus (Sailfish, that is). MeeGo has way better multitasking than Android has.
In my opinion, MeeGo is the OS that just is the most fun to use. Albeit more limiting than Android.
dannejanne said:
MeeGo has way better multitasking than Android has.
In my opinion, MeeGo is the OS that just is the most fun to use. Albeit more limiting than Android.
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But without any apps to multitask with.
That's why I don't see room for a new player at this stage of the game. Android, iOS and even WP8 to a lesser extent are just too established for a newcomer to compete.
063_XOBX said:
But without any apps to multitask with.
That's why I don't see room for a new player at this stage of the game. Android, iOS and even WP8 to a lesser extent are just too established for a newcomer to compete.
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Good point. Though I am not an app person myself. It did have a good Spotify app (homebrew, that could actually search your own offline lists), a working Whatsapp (also way more customizable than any other whatsapp app) etc. It has a fairly strong dedicated community supporting it.
I hope Sailfish can handle Android apps as they claim. There's a Android logo 0:50 into their official introduction movie. I don't thing it will ever get "big". But a nice alternative for phone nerds like me.
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i'm one of the interested ones.
There is not really a lack of Apps. If we belive what they say, a lot of Android apps should run native on Sailfish. On the other hand there is a good system to port them.
There are not only the Nexus without software keys. The new Motorolla don't have them too. They're also open for developers.
I'm more of a breadfish guy...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuf2nvDWCJY
bardzogrozny said:
Hi,
i'm one of the interested ones.
There is not really a lack of Apps. If we belive what they say, a lot of Android apps should run native on Sailfish. On the other hand there is a good system to port them.
There are not only the Nexus without software keys. The new Motorolla don't have them too. They're also open for developers.
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Problem is, Google will not license the play store to them.
So you think it will be to hard for ordinary users to install apps? Don't you think they will create an own store application wich uses the google account of the user to install apps?
Otherwise there is only left to port them.
Props to them for trying. I agree I don't see google letting them into the play store, because frankly it won't help their sales at all. If they deny them play store access, that new os will fade away and be forgotten. If they let it in, then it has potential to grow and be a competitor for google thus taking away from more android licenses being sold.
It will be neat to see, maybe spark ideas for the main 3 os companies to license from and improve. They should change the name so it doesnt sound like you are saying 'selfish' with a strong accent
bardzogrozny said:
So you think it will be to hard for ordinary users to install apps? Don't you think they will create an own store application wich uses the google account of the user to install apps?
Otherwise there is only left to port them.
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It will probably function like sideloading apps, youll have to download them to local storage and manually install them. Easy for us, but my parents? Heck no. lol
Looks like Metro and Android had a baby.
Meego should have been alowed to evolve under Nokia.
I think the buttonless ui is defintely interesting.. i would love to see a port attempt and just try itout..
I know i wouldnt use it daily driver.. but as a technerd i would love to try it out
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Trekfan422991 said:
I think the buttonless ui is defintely interesting.. i would love to see a port attempt and just try itout..
I know i wouldnt use it daily driver.. but as a technerd i would love to try it out
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I like the design too. But i would try to use it productive.
I hope the version for Tablet will be as good as this for phone.
adrynalyne said:
Problem is, Google will not license the play store to them.
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We're on XDA and that's what you are worried about?
Some of these features are looking really good! Hope to see it running on my phone very soon.
I can foresee this being ported to Nexus devices. Really looking forward to it.
good os but no devs
hi about the playstore u can hack it to the os and make it think it is running on android and using android phone not a real problem
u can install blackmart alpha or 1mobile market it looks like playstore
the real problem is there is no devs are working on this os!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why i think the android is boring sometimes and had to change it but when i look where to go the ios i hate it (don't ask why) cus i hate this apple but she has a cute phone only the 4s maybe some android ports make it good
tizen looks like bada
bada is app less (no apps)
webos who is care about it
firefox os its only for firefox browser in my mind
wp7/8 it is not open source
so the future os i think sailfish is
thanks.

Tizen or Sailfish OS on the S7 Edge?

Hello again! It's been a while since I posted last; sorry for the long delay. Let me explain the scenario...
I'm looking for Android alternatives for my S7 Edge. Not just ports of Android (LineageOS and CyanogenMod, for example), but OSes that are separate from Android altogether. The requirements must be that it is open source and more customizable than Android.
My first choice was Tizen. Although Tizen is mainly for smartwatches, it's also on some Samsung smartphones. The main problem is that it doesn't have very many apps (so I've read, but I've never truly given it a try).
However, I also like the ideas behind Sailfish OS, a completely customizable ROM that supports Android apps (though not very well, also from what I've read).
I have some questions for the community, one which I present in a poll. I'd also like to know if either have ports to the S7 Edge, and if not, who would be interested in developing one or the other.
I would really like to see sailfish!
I'm also open to suggestions of other OSes. Keep in mind that anything suggested must NOT be based on Android, even though some may support Android software (i.e. apps from Google Play).
bb10 os, i loved it on my old bb q10.
WebOS lol
Raphi86 said:
WebOS lol
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Actually, that's not a bad idea. Any suggestion is a good one.
Linux with Gnome
I do have Kali Nethunter on my Note 4.
Tombias said:
I do have Kali Nethunter on my Note 4.
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Isn't that a port of Android, or am I just confused? If it supports Android software but is not built with the Android SDK, that's more of what I'm looking for.
I noticed that nobody is suggesting Tizen (as of the date on this post). Let me explain why I would want Tizen.
I realize that Tizen may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's not exactly a bad operating system. As a matter of fact, it's very much within the same family as Sailfish. Both are based off of MeeGo by Nokia.
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It may not be full of the features we all want, but over time I'm sure it can support these feature (such as Android apps) if we suggest it. I'm not saying to change your opinions; I'm just saying to reconsider the options. Besides, what better OS would be for a Samsung phone than a Samsung-supported OS?
However, Sailfish OS looks more promising right now than Tizen. Check out the video! You can also check out some of the other videos by Jolla that show how to use Sailfish OS (specifically on Jolla phones, but may be able to work on an S7, too!).
Please leave a comment if you can explain why you voted the way you did. If you chose "neither", I'm open to suggestions.
Hi, I think I can help a little bit. I am porting Sailfish OS on Galaxy S7. I will write a big post about porting Sailfish, but now you can use my work, here build manual for Sailfish OS 2.1.3.7 for Galaxy S7.
What works:
Display
Touch
Volume keys
Wi-fi(have some problems now)
Sensors
lSDriim said:
I am porting Sailfish OS on Galaxy S7. I will write a big post about porting Sailfish, but now you can use my work, here build manual for Sailfish OS 2.1.3.7 for Galaxy S7.
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Great news; thanks for the manual. Is there any way to try this out first on the S7 before flashing it permanently?
CyanogenLover said:
Great news; thanks for the manual. Is there any way to try this out first on the S7 before flashing it permanently?
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I don't know. I just reflashing it, If had problems I use Odin to reflash to stock.
lSDriim said:
I don't know. I just reflashing it, If had problems I use Odin to reflash to stock.
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Could it work in an Android Emulator using the Android SDK? I realize it's not Android, but it's for an Android device.
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Could it work in an Android Emulator using the Android SDK? I realize it's not Android, but it's for an Android device.
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I am novice in Sailfish and mobile phone porting. So you should ask guys from #sailfishos-porters freenode irc channel.
By the way, I wrote a post about Sailfish OS for Samsung Galaxy S7.
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I am novice in Sailfish and mobile phone porting. So you should ask guys from #sailfishos-porters freenode irc channel.
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I don't really use IRC; I haven't had good experiences there. I guess I'll just stick to trial and error.
(CL starts Sailfish OS in Android Emulator. His computer suddenly explodes! )
Bump!
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I don't really use IRC; I haven't had good experiences there. I guess I'll just stick to trial and error.
(CL starts Sailfish OS in Android Emulator. His computer suddenly explodes! )
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Hey CyanogenLover any update on sailfish port. I would love to use sailfish on my hero2lte . I am a newbie coder with very little knowledge wish i can help you.

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