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I'd like to make a recommendation to rom devs:

Please stop using the rom version space as a spot to put your rom's name. I just called sprint customer support and they told me that a simple version check on the phones reported back roms that were not built by their team....then the tech proceeded to read off the exact info that my phone displayed. It's not good when sprint can simply ping our device and see that it's reporting back custom rom names, version numbers and everything. This really puts a damper on things when you need to do a device exchange for something that's totally unrelated to anything flashing could do.

Or you could just flash your phone back to stock when you need support. Like we've always done.

One does not simply tell devs what to do.
*Sent from Nexus S*

or you can open your build.prop file with root explorer and write in "sprint sucks"(or anything else) instead

063_XOBX said:
Or you could just flash your phone back to stock when you need support. Like we've always done.
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Exactly.
simms22 said:
or you can open your build.prop file with root explorer and write in "sprint sucks"(or anything else) instead
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haha.. Oh man.. The fun we could have.
"ro.modversion=This_Is_Dan_Hesse_Get_Back_To_Work_And_Stop_Being_Big_Brother"

styckx said:
"ro.modversion=This_Is_Dan_Hesse_Get_Back_To_Work_And_Stop_Being_Big_Brother"
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this is good.
heres an older screenshot of some build.prop edits in about phone
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:laugh: QuadCore Jesus Phone....

You should tell sprint to basically stfu. Stop delaying updates and don't worry about what software is on your phone period.

hp420 said:
Please stop using the rom version space as a spot to put your rom's name. I just called sprint customer support and they told me that a simple version check on the phones reported back roms that were not built by their team....then the tech proceeded to read off the exact info that my phone displayed. It's not good when sprint can simply ping our device and see that it's reporting back custom rom names, version numbers and everything. This really puts a damper on things when you need to do a device exchange for something that's totally unrelated to anything flashing could do.
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Personally I don't think it's any of Sprints business what WE do with OUR phones and DEVS do with THEIR roms. As long as the bills paid they can kiss it in my personal opinion. Not as if anyone at a call center really knows what they are talking about anyhow. They are all reading from prompters and how to guides anyhow. Most of Sprint issues are on THEIR side anyways. WE obviously can't tell Sprint what to do.

063_XOBX said:
Or you could just flash your phone back to stock when you need support. Like we've always done.
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yes, well I didn't exactly expect the employee to ping my build.prop from her machine, so it never occurred to me that I may have to flash stock just to call them. Obviously if I had gone down to a store or repair center I would have gone completely stock with a fresh wipe to look as if I had just tried restoring my phone to fix any issue. But like I said, it never even crossed my mind that I would have to be paranoid about it and flash just before calling them.
BTW, I totally agree....it's none of their damn business what firmware I'm running!!! I don't remember signing anything saying I would agree to keep stock firmware and kernel on the device the whole time in order to keep my service/warranty active!! I actually distinctly remember the conversation i had with the mobile dept manager at best buy when I bought my ns4g...and he told me they would accept a return for exchange with a device that's got an unlocked bootloader, custom rec, has been flashed & is rooted, etc He even told me if it got smashed to pieces the warranty would cover it. I'm not sure how truthful the last part is, but he said it
anyway, my point is we now have proof that they can ping your device and read what build you are running....and we know that means we have to be extra careful when calling too, not just visiting a store.
oh, btw...she also told me that the last attempt I made at an ota was in may when ics was released...so the fact that I had a jb build number proved I had been flashing. This means we also now know we need to take an additional step to update to the newest version via OTA at least one time prior to contacting support.

I guess its good into to know for those on sprint. But in the end screw them. I would not for a second change anything or worry one bit about it. If they gave me any crap I would tell them to f off and kill my plan and I would never pay it.
Like I did years ago over a beef with them. I was so furious with them and I actually wanted to hear from the CEO. Told them f off. Told the debt collectors to screw off. Just thinking about that nightmare again got me ticked off.

Have no itch to root...YET!

All,
Just want you to know I have had android phones for the past 4yrs and each and every one I have rooted, installed ROMS, tweeked etc...This is the only phone I feel I don't need to root. I did tweek it a bit by installing ART and disabling some bloatware apps from ATT, but so far, I have not gotten the itch to root yet.
I'm sure it will change, but so far this phone is a beast and I have no issues with it.

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Good for you. But some of us NEED root.

Slash8915 said:
Good for you. But some of us NEED root.
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No you don't, you WANT root. There is a big difference.

I think over the years manufacturers have slowly figured out how to make the stock experience less and less awful. I used to be a flash-aholic on my Droid Incredible but I can see how custom ROMs are becoming more of a personal preference than a necessity.

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No you don't, you WANT root. There is a big difference.
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Yeah, it's all semantics, really. :silly:

Sorry, but I guess that is what I was trying to get at with my post. In the past, I would root to optimize the phone, increase performance etc...But with the current state of Android and even this skinned LG, I can live with stock and not have to go through crack flashing. Was terribly time consuming.

Nutzzer said:
All,
Just want you to know I have had android phones for the past 4yrs and each and every one I have rooted, installed ROMS, tweeked etc...This is the only phone I feel I don't need to root. I did tweek it a bit by installing ART and disabling some bloatware apps from ATT, but so far, I have not gotten the itch to root yet.
I'm sure it will change, but so far this phone is a beast and I have no issues with it.
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Plus the LG set up has a native bluetooth hotspot that doesn't seem to need the $10 a month change my provider normally charges. So No hotspot hack required.

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No you don't, you WANT root. There is a big difference.
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I have an appradio 2 in my car. I NEED root for it to connect to my phone. So yes. I NEED root. Don't try talking for me.

Edit: NVM.

Slash8915 said:
I have an appradio 2 in my car. I NEED root for it to connect to my phone. So yes. I NEED root. Don't try talking for me.
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Again, you want root. You purchased an item under the assumption that you will always have root, and that may not be the case. You bought an item that doesn't support many devices it seems, perhaps you should have taken that into consideration before assuming every device you buy will have root. Its much easier to go to appradio and look at what is supported, and buying the appropriate device then insisting on needing root to use an item that currently isn't compatible with your phone.

Quit arguing semantics. It is really quite juvenile. Need/want - who cares.

Semantics said:
Again, you want root. You purchased an item under the assumption that you will always have root, and that may not be the case. You bought an item that doesn't support many devices it seems, perhaps you should have taken that into consideration before assuming every device you buy will have root. Its much easier to go to appradio and look at what is supported, and buying the appropriate device then insisting on needing root to use an item that currently isn't compatible with your phone.
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Dumbest debate I've ever heard. Maybe he NEEDS root to use a certain feature everyday for his job.
I NEED root to read logcats on my phone because I develop apps.

Any way to restore full sd support for kitkat without root?

I will mine tomorrow as soon as I get it lol

I rooted mine the same day I got it, for the same reason I immediately root all my devices. Adfree Android. I can't stand advertisements.....

Lord, the guy was talking about himself and somehow it became about someone else....he is experiencing his thought on HIS rooting experience. You want to go on about how much YOU NEED / WANT root open your own discussion thread and go at it...in YOUR thread.
And thanks OP for your input, thats the same kind of experience I am trying to go for where the stock rom can fullfil my phone desire without needing to root...and when I do will just be to entertain myself

Semantics said:
Again, you want root. You purchased an item under the assumption that you will always have root, and that may not be the case. You bought an item that doesn't support many devices it seems, perhaps you should have taken that into consideration before assuming every device you buy will have root. Its much easier to go to appradio and look at what is supported, and buying the appropriate device then insisting on needing root to use an item that currently isn't compatible with your phone.
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Actually, I bought the Appradio while I had the GS4, which has root. I got it knowing that I would need root, so I STILL have the GS4, and won't be buying the G3 until it has root. I'm not just going to jump to another phone without knowing for sure it has root.
So seriously... Get off your ****ing high horse.

Heisenberg420 said:
Dumbest debate I've ever heard. Maybe he NEEDS root to use a certain feature everyday for his job.
I NEED root to read logcats on my phone because I develop apps.
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You develop apps, but don't buy a developer phone? That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He bought a niche product, and NEEDS root to play with it, its not for work, lol. Whatever. You need root, and you're a developer, so I'm sure you'll have it figured out in no time at all, Chief.

[FIXED] please, do your part to get official 4.4.4 and 4.4.3 images

Edit:
you annoying bastards did it
4.4.4 are live on the site as usual.
go download em https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
edit 2:
they are still missing the VRZ. but i think that is just red tape (red, get it?) from VRZ.
doesn't hurt to continue to bug them
edit 3:
sad that we had to annoy each other but it's finally complete. maybe next time don't include a annoy.timer setting with such lower timer in your OTA app :/ (it really has that name). or make it not jump in front of gps and calls... well i should learn not to use stock roms...
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hi, if you also have a developer edition phone, and are pissed that morola only provides 4.4.2 and 4.2.2 images, making it impossible to restore a dev device back to stock for any reason, whithout a complex (and probably dev edition warranty voiding?) downgrade procedure, please, do bug them and ask for it.
the steps are:
1. open a chat (or call 1-800-734-5870 ) at https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/mcp/service/
2. mention that you have a developer device
3. say that the page at https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images is impacting your device usage
3.b optional. you can mention the fact that being on stock 4.4.3 and being unable to update, you will get the 4.4.4 update warning every couple minutes, even on top of the GPS while you are driving!
4. mention that the page reads "to help owners return to the latest Motorola software." on the very first paragraph.
5. recall them that the latest motorola software is 4.4.4 or at least 4.4.3
do not give up until they say "i'm escaling this to L2." whatever that means
thank you! Only with lots of people bugging them they will do something about it.
Edit:
make noise on social networks!
FB: to do
G+: https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/NwVH9HQ6EcC
tweet: to do
tumblr: to do
reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/2jxvdo/please_do_your_part_to_get_official_444_and_443/
(comment with the links to the above and i will update here)

Thanks for this. Doing so as we speak.
UPDATE:
Well that was highly discouraging. After being told that unlocking my bootloader wouldn't void my warranty but that to flash one of the recovery images would require root and that would void my warranty (you can be sure I responded to that, LOL!), I was told that what's up there is what's up there and that they'd pass on my request to the appropriate party. LMAO. Basically, don't hold your breath. And people wonder why I'm getting a Nexus 6. I'm sick of companies treating unlocked devices as second class citizens. My S4 GPE has never seen an ODIN image. Officially, we've got recovery images that are 2 versions old for the GSM X DE. is that acceptable to anyone? It's not to me.

SamuriHL said:
Thanks for this. Doing so as we speak.
UPDATE:
Well that was highly discouraging. After being told that unlocking my bootloader wouldn't void my warranty but that to flash one of the recovery images would require root and that would void my warranty (you can be sure I responded to that, LOL!), I was told that what's up there is what's up there and that they'd pass on my request to the appropriate party. LMAO. Basically, don't hold your breath. And people wonder why I'm getting a Nexus 6. I'm sick of companies treating unlocked devices as second class citizens. My S4 GPE has never seen an ODIN image. Officially, we've got recovery images that are 2 versions old for the GSM X DE. is that acceptable to anyone? It's not to me.
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thanks for trying man! for me it was pretty smooth.
I did mention that i was on stock 4.4.3, installed on motorola themselves on my phone. I only had a custom recovery, because, well, that is the reason i got a developer phone. The rep never asked me if i rooted or not. because it is irrelevant as you know and mentioned above.
i'd try again later on. maybe you get a rep with a clue. either way, thanks again for trying.
We need volume! c'mon folks.

Done deal!
Ooof.. hopefully Moto will realize that they need to do this as we'll need that to update to 5.0 if released!

Well, let's see if this helps....
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livinginkaos said:
Well, let's see if this helps....
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good idea. i'm not much on social networks, but
can you give me a proper link? i will pass it around at school and work email lists to get people to bump this.
Actually, i can update the top post with tweets, FB, G+ links that everyone can repost/like/+1 etc.
sadly, i'm on none of those networks

https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/ZYZpw33AoRA

livinginkaos said:
https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/ZYZpw33AoRA
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it says, this post cannot be found:
dumb google plus said:
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Sorry, that one was semi private. This one should work.....
https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/NwVH9HQ6EcC
sent from my G3

livinginkaos said:
Sorry, that one was semi private. This one should work.....
https://plus.google.com/112569377970438652007/posts/NwVH9HQ6EcC
sent from my G3
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thanks! added! and +1ed

gcbxda said:
thanks! added! and +1ed
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I plus one your post but was unable to leave a comment.
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SamuriHL said:
Thanks for this. Doing so as we speak.
UPDATE:
Well that was highly discouraging. After being told that unlocking my bootloader wouldn't void my warranty but that to flash one of the recovery images would require root and that would void my warranty (you can be sure I responded to that, LOL!), I was told that what's up there is what's up there and that they'd pass on my request to the appropriate party. LMAO. Basically, don't hold your breath. And people wonder why I'm getting a Nexus 6. I'm sick of companies treating unlocked devices as second class citizens. My S4 GPE has never seen an ODIN image. Officially, we've got recovery images that are 2 versions old for the GSM X DE. is that acceptable to anyone? It's not to me.
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Looks like when google sold Moto they lost their responsibility for keeping the devices up to date with factory images. Luckily and thanks to you SamuriHL I have this from you to pull my stock 4.4.4 images for my xt1060 dev edition. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fxz-moto-x-4-4-4-212-55-26-t2827307

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I plus one your post but was unable to leave a comment.
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Looks like when google sold Moto they lost their responsibility for keeping the devices up to date with factory images. Luckily and thanks to you SamuriHL I have this from you to pull my stock 4.4.4 images for my xt1060 dev edition. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fxz-moto-x-4-4-4-212-55-26-t2827307
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Yea, unfortunately that doesn't help us GSM DE users. I'm incredibly frustrated. Well, it just strengthens my resolve to get a Nexus 6. At least with that I know the images will be posted by Google in a very reasonable timeframe. For my S4 GPE I have to make them myself which is equally frustrating. On the X GSM DE we may have to get to a point of a hybrid "FXZ" where we fastboot some partitions, reboot into custom recovery, and then flash a pulled system image. That just seems really wrong when it wouldn't take Moto very much to host the damn images for us.

SamuriHL said:
Yea, unfortunately that doesn't help us GSM DE users. I'm incredibly frustrated. Well, it just strengthens my resolve to get a Nexus 6. At least with that I know the images will be posted by Google in a very reasonable timeframe. For my S4 GPE I have to make them myself which is equally frustrating. On the X GSM DE we may have to get to a point of a hybrid "FXZ" where we fastboot some partitions, reboot into custom recovery, and then flash a pulled system image. That just seems really wrong when it wouldn't take Moto very much to host the damn images for us.
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Completely agree. That is one good thing about the nexus. You can count on those image files being released in a timely matter. Thanks again though for your work. It gave me the stock images I needed for my Dev edition. Very much appreciated! As well as you old house of bionic I used on my wife's old bionic lol

Travisdroidx2 said:
Completely agree. That is one good thing about the nexus. You can count on those image files being released in a timely matter. Thanks again though for your work. It gave me the stock images I needed for my Dev edition. Very much appreciated! As well as you old house of bionic I used on my wife's old bionic lol
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The images I got came from stras. I just post them as he gives them to me. He's awesome. Also, not to get off topic, but just so you're aware my House of Moto and RSD Flasher tools will work for your X DE and that FXZ.

SamuriHL said:
The images I got came from stras. I just post them as he gives them to me. He's awesome. Also, not to get off topic, but just so you're aware my House of Moto and RSD Flasher tools will work for your X DE and that FXZ.
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Thanks for your time and tools. However, once I learned how to manually flash image files I left the toolkits alone. But if I was to use a tool I would trust yours.

Nothing has changed. I have it on good authority that this amounts to a bureaucratic oversight and will be taken care of ASAP.
All the right people are aware of the issue and working to address it.

cellzealot said:
Nothing has changed. I have it on good authority that this amounts to a bureaucratic oversight and will be taken care of ASAP.
All the right people are aware of the issue and working to address it.
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That's actually really good to hear. Thanks for the info!

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That's actually really good to hear. Thanks for the info!
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No problem! Hopefully it will be soon. The person i spoke with used to do this personally and build and sign the zips himself but has delegated that to an underling who has had a full plate and hasn't gotten to it yet, unfotunately.
He assured me there had been no change in policy regarding the availability and posting of these files!

cellzealot said:
No problem! Hopefully it will be soon. The person i spoke with used to do this personally and build and sign the zips himself but has delegated that to an underling who has had a full plate and hasn't gotten to it yet, unfotunately.
He assured me there had been no change in policy regarding the availability and posting of these files!
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That is truly excellent news. I was very concerned since they only have 4.4.2 up there and 4.4.3 has been out for months now. Yes we've been able to get leaks until recently but we should be able to get them officially and the sbf site hasn't been updated since early September.
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Not sure why you guys are praising nexus. My experience with N1 was awfull. stuck on 2.3 forever. zero support. hardware problems that should have been recalled completely ignored and dismissed by google and htc... well, i think i will have my opnion change when N4 gets 5.0 (which is it capable on hardware)
also, you are all ignoring the fact that the next nexus will be churned out by motorola. and will be a even bigger phablet than motoX2.
cellzealot said:
No problem! Hopefully it will be soon. The person i spoke with used to do this personally and build and sign the zips himself but has delegated that to an underling who has had a full plate and hasn't gotten to it yet, unfotunately.
He assured me there had been no change in policy regarding the availability and posting of these files!
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nice! (assuming that policy was to provide more than two images...) will continue to bug them daily. so you can tell your friend to tell the underling to ask for a raise! management will surely say yes

So... My Verizon LG G4 shipped with "MODIFIED" firmware...

So a lil background on me... I'm very experienced in phone rooting and the like. I work for Best Buy Mobile, and see all the new stuff well before anyone else. I played with the LG G4 a month before release and it was love at first sight. Well I ordered mine thru my concessions line I have thru work and it arrived yesterday. I opened it, activated it and immediately turned on developers options, mainly because I knew some animations were turned off. Well, I had to look at the software version, and it said "MODIFIED".
I purchased the one with the leather back. It is completely stock, I've not even attempted to try root, if we even have it yet. Did anyone else purchase theirs and it have " MODIFIED" software?
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I'm not an expert, but that font is NOT the same as on my phone. Looks like it has indeed been customized to a certain extent.
If you're displeased with it, I'd exchange it for a new one.

Mejilan said:
I'm not an expert, but that font is NOT the same as on my phone. Looks like it has indeed been customized to a certain extent.
If you're displeased with it, I'd exchange it for a new one.
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You can change the font in settings.
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My VS986 says same thing. Bought at Verizon kiosk in BJs.
Doug B.

Same here. I imagine activating Developer's Options, and/or turning on debugging does it.

Pretty sure it said Modified before I turned on Dev Opts.
Doug B.

I read somewhere in this forums that a lot of Verizon G4 users claim that it arrived as modified. They suspected that Verizon disabling some functions, such as FM radio, might have caused it and didn't double check to see the software version.
If I were you I'll contact Verizon to double check.
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dvgb173 said:
Pretty sure it said Modified before I turned on Dev Opts.
Doug B.
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Either way, it doesn't mean anything. To us, regarding root, anyway.

I agree. Sounds like Verizon's build. Nothing more. That doesn't mean it doesn't suck though.
Doug B.

Just checked on my Verizon G4, and it currently says official next to software status.

Eagle1337 said:
You can change the font in settings.
Sent from my LG-H812 using XDA Forums Pro.
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Woops, sorry about that.
For some reason, I thought replacing fonts required some fancier, higher level customization options.
Probably thinking back to my old iPhone jailbreak days. /shudders

aosmer said:
Just checked on my Verizon G4, and it currently says official next to software status.
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Yeah, I have the VS986 as well, and I show "Official" under status. I have USB debugging on as well. Bought the phone at Verizon this past Sunday

aosmer said:
Just checked on my Verizon G4, and it currently says official next to software status.
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When/where did you get it?
Doug B.

spotmark said:
Same here. I imagine activating Developer's Options, and/or turning on debugging does it.
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Mine def said modified before I did that. It just struck me as odd. Idk why it would say that.
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I bought mine from a Verizon store (not third party) on day 1. I have used Developer Options, USB Debugging, and connected via adb, and my software still says Official. Build is LMY47D, Config is J14.LGE.VS986.0

Yea I'm def not sure why mine says that at all. Mine was shipped to me. I guess it's nothing to really worry about really. Phone flies like I knew it would lol
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When/where did you get it?
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I picked it up 6/15 at my local Best Buy.

Mine says official.

I picked up mine from Verizon on Saturday, says "Official" .. enabled Developer mode .. rebooted .. still says "Official".

As stated on other threads, 'Modified' or 'Official' doesn't mean anything here.

Does HTC still provide bootloader unlocking?

The last time I had an HTC phone, HTC provided a bootloader unlocking tool for phones bought on contract through carriers. Is this still the case? I'd probably end up having a Verizon model.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/unlockable-bootloader-t3357220
The GSM version will be unlockable. Unknown if Verizon will screw that up or not.

Responding to my question, Jeff Gordon - Senior Global Online Communications Manager at HTC Corp said:
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God dam it. What is this bs with unlockable bootloader lately. This was my #1 choice. Now I guess I'll have to wait for the next nexus.
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@nitramus I think you have misread. For the 10 if you buy direct from HTC, it looks like the bootloader will be unlocked out of the box. If you buy from a service provider, it may be locked, but can be unlocked via the HTC website.

Might be because English is not my primary language but when I read this what I get is that it can not be unlocked.

nitramus said:
Might be because English is not my primary language but when I read this what I get is that it can not be unlocked.
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Yeah, you're not reading it correctly. HTC is still offering dev unlocking. You will be able to unlock it.

Sweet, thanks!

Awesome news, I hope verizon doesn't screw this up...
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gleggie said:
Awesome news, I hope verizon doesn't screw this up...
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Verizon branded devices are NOT unlockable through HTC Dev. Verizon requests that HTC block their branded devices from that service. Verizon users must rely on Java card or software exploits such as sunshine to be updated to work with the 10.

Behold_this said:
Verizon branded devices are NOT unlockable through HTC Dev. Verizon requests that HTC block their branded devices from that service. Verizon users must rely on Java card or software exploits such as sunshine to be updated to work with the 10.
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Thanks for the info, would a carrier unlocked HTC 10 work on Verizon? I've been hearing mixed information
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gleggie said:
Thanks for the info, would a carrier unlocked HTC 10 work on Verizon? I've been hearing mixed information
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That's kind of tough to answer. First, according to the specs on HTC's page it does have the correct LTE and CDMA radios to work on Verizon. That being said, you would still have to get the device activated on Verizon's Network and that can be difficult with devices Verizon does not carry.
Second, responses from official HTC employees (e.g. Mo Versi and others) state that you will need to purchase the Verizon branded model, once available, to get full support. Seems to be intentionally vague. The answer to your question: it may well work and it may well not, you have to roll the dice to find out.

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That's kind of tough to answer. First, according to the specs on HTC's page it does have the correct LTE and CDMA radios to work on Verizon. That being said, you would still have to get the device activated on Verizon's Network and that can be difficult with devices Verizon does not carry.
Second, responses from official HTC employees (e.g. Mo Versi and others) state that you will need to purchase the Verizon branded model, once available, to get full support. Seems to be intentionally vague. The answer to your question: it may well work and it may well not, you have to roll the dice to find out.
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I'm wondering if someone will figure out how to trick Verizon into thinking the unlocked version is one of its own.

Ajfink said:
I'm wondering if someone will figure out how to trick Verizon into thinking the unlocked version is one of its own.
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You'd need to change the device CID to match Verizon's to trick them. For that, s-off is required, bootloader unlock will not give required access to change that.