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B) another question: the octa core version supports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
Snapdragon 600 (1.9ghz speed, 4 cores) or Exynos 5 Octa(4 cores A15, clocked at 1.6ghz+ 4 cores 1.2GHZ A7)
1) what is faster? exynos or snapdragon?
2) which one is more effectively? (battery friendly)? (***in both high-huge use and low-idle use.. in which one battery life are better)
3) there are any benchmarks test for both of them.?
i just dont know which one is better..
Adreno 320 GPU vs PowerVR SGX 544MP3
4) which one is stronger?
5) i really dont know which version should i get.. US version(with 1.9ghz) or international(1.6ghz) their performance are really similar?
6) there is any stronger smartphone out now?
6) will the galaxy s4 have wireless charging?
MUSIC:
7) what about music? is there any quality speakers?
8) headphone will be HD/ very good quality.. ? (like in iPhone 5)?
8)
1) the snapdragon is over clocked so is supposed to be faster in cpu but the exynos won't lack behind.
2) for battery of course the exynos since only 4 cores will be running so if ur doing a low use the A7 will be running which are great for battery life and when you kick it to high use that's when the bug guns A15 come in play.
3)for the exynos no because it is not available yet but for the snapdragon it got the twice score of an iphone 5 so that gives a clear answer.
4)i think that would go to the powerVr since the exynos version is expected to be better in Gpu.
5)that depends on you.
6)of course it will but will be optional.
7) the speakers are supposed to be good than the previous models.
8) i am not sure about that but even if they aren't there are always beats.
hope i gave you a clear answer and if there is anything else you would like to know let me know.
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1) the snapdragon is over clocked so is supposed to be faster in cpu but the exynos won't lack behind.
2) for battery of course the exynos since only 4 cores will be running so if ur doing a low use the A7 will be running which are great for battery life and when you kick it to high use that's when the bug guns A15 come in play.
3)for the exynos no because it is not available yet but for the snapdragon it got the twice score of an iphone 5 so that gives a clear answer.
4)i think that would go to the powerVr since the exynos version is expected to be better in Gpu.
5)that depends on you.
6)of course it will but will be optional.
7) the speakers are supposed to be good than the previous models.
8) i am not sure about that but even if they aren't there are always beats.
hope i gave you a clear answer and if there is anything else you would like to know let me know.
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thanks for taking your time for answering me
do you think exyons 5 will be overclock-able? i hope we will be able to get 1.8ghz or something without losing battery life or something..
yes i think after rooting and few kernel releases you will be able to overclock the Cpu and maybe also the Gpu but why would you need that the exynos on the galaxy s4 is already going to be a beast and it's expected to be in par with the snapdragon and also your welcome
Actually the Exynos is better in every aspect (battery speed and gpu) clock speeds don't mean anything a15s are faster than krait fullstop
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4 core?, I guess its Octo-core Exynos
Well unless you don't use both of them, you can't figure out which one is better.
May be someone may use and let us know.
well even if the exynos is better in every aspect the biggest advantage would still be low task using so its battery saving so everything else is probably the same or little difference and what do you mean clock speeds don't mean anything ?? have you seen the benchmark difference between the galaxy s4 and the htc one ?? and i know the A155 are better than krait that's why the snapdragon is overclocked
@samsingh02 it is octa core but like 4+4 so the 8 cores will never function together it would be like A7 for the low tasks and the A15 when you are on a heavy task like gaming
anyway the thing is the snapdragon is for 4G network and the exynos for the 3G network end of story.
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well even if the exynos is better in every aspect the biggest advantage would still be low task using so its battery saving so everything else is probably the same or little difference
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I didn't bother to explain it has been done to much and speed is actually a big factor to make a long story short read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
and i know the A155 are better than krait that's why the snapdragon is overclocked
@samsingh02 it is octa core but like 4+4 so the 8 cores will never function together it would be like A7 for the low tasks and the A15 when you are on a heavy task like gaming
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That's the while point
anyway the thing is the snapdragon is for 4G network and the exynos for the 3G network end of story.
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Some benchmarks show Exynos having 4g compatibility
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but that would be the galaxy note 2 exynos 4 because the exynos 5 on the galaxy s4 is not out yet the only exynos 5 is on the nexus 10
Blackwolf10 said:
but that would be the galaxy note 2 exynos 4 because the exynos 5 on the galaxy s4 is not out yet the only exynos 5 is on the nexus 10
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Exynos 5 in the nexus 10 is dual core
But the second part
Where did Exynos 4 come from what are u talking about
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i know it's clocked at 1.7 and i was talking about the note 2 i read in the Xda here that it was available on a carrier in the U.S. with the exynos
You can see here which countries will get the octa core version and which countries will get the Snapdragon version
http://goo.gl/EePDg
B) another question: the octa core version supports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
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B) another question: the octa core version upports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
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Just to butt in, doesn't Exynos octa also have LTE support? I want to know what bands it supports.
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Should buying s4 or waiting nexus 5 ?
Sorry for bad English!!
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Wait for the Galaxy S5. It will surely be faster than both.
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U must be joking! Now i use motorola razr. I will change my phone in this year. Should i buy s4 or wait nexus 5? There is a rumour nexus 5 cpu is snapdragon 800. Is snapdragon 800 cpu faster than exynos octa 5?
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U must be joking! Now i use motorola razr. I will change my phone in this year. Should i buy s4 or wait nexus 5? There is a rumour nexus 5 cpu is snapdragon 800. Is snapdragon 800 cpu faster than exynos octa 5?
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Sure but they say that the Kyocera ultra is coming out soon with a new snapdragon 800 plus with an advance CPU and it makes great decaf coffee too. Should probably wait for that one.
if xda dev enable all 8 cores running performance should be same as 2.3ghz s800
even if 4 a15 clock at 2ghz should be same as 2.3ghz s800
but adreno 330 better than the adreno 320 and 533mp3 for sure
jianlinooi said:
if xda dev enable all 8 cores running performance should be same as 2.3ghz s800
even if 4 a15 clock at 2ghz should be same as 2.3ghz s800
but adreno 330 better than the adreno 320 and 533mp3 for sure
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This is only my guess, but IF that was even possible to run all 8 cores at the same time it most likely will not run at full speed because of the amount of heat that would be generated by running all 8 cores at once.
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Should buying s4 or waiting nexus 5 ?
Sorry for bad English!!
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Adreno 330 will smoke the 544mp3
Cpu speed could be about the same
snapdragon will blow exynos cos exynos already par with s600 but s800 will be monster
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snapdragon will blow exynos cos exynos already par with s600 but s800 will be monster
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Lol please stop talking. The exynos octa smothers the s600 in benchmarks while at a lower clock.
Anywho, there were some leaked benchmarks a little while back I saw
(Don't remember where) for the s800 and it hit slightly higher than the Tegra 4 on antutu. But it also was clocked at 2.3ghz where as the t4 was 2 ghz.so to answer your question no, the s800 really isn't anything special compared to a15 chips, and exynos outperforms tegra. But the krait chips probably have slightly better efficiency. So maybe it might be worth looking into, the gpu (330) will most likely outperform the power vr marginally, not that it even matters at this point. From the bit I researched the s800 doesn't deviate too greatly from three s600 aside from higher peak frequencies and large band width
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monpeso said:
Should buying s4 or waiting nexus 5 ?
Sorry for bad English!!
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We can't compare something which isn't even out yet, so I wonder if there is any use of this thread
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Lol please stop talking. The exynos octa smothers the s600 in benchmarks while at a lower clock.
Anywho, there were some leaked benchmarks a little while back I saw
(Don't remember where) for the s800 and it hit slightly higher than the Tegra 4 on antutu. But it also was clocked at 2.3ghz where as the t4 was 2 ghz.so to answer your question no, the s800 really isn't anything special compared to a15 chips, and exynos outperforms tegra. But the krait chips probably have slightly better efficiency. So maybe it might be worth looking into, the gpu (330) will most likely outperform the power vr marginally, not that it even matters at this point. From the bit I researched the s800 doesn't deviate too greatly from three s600 aside from higher peak frequencies and large band width
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You might want to check other threads yourself before stating "facts" like that.
With the final firmware, things seem different, both version are pretty close to each other, sometimes the S600 version wins, sometimes the Octa does.
But most of the time, it seems the Octa has a faster CPU, but the overclocked Adreno 320 in the S600 version of the S4 beats the PowerVR 544MP3 of the Octa version.
Here's a comparison with the latest and most strenuous benchmark from GLBenchmark :
http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?benc...true&arch-MIPS=true&arch-x86=true&base=device
monpeso said:
Should buying s4 or waiting nexus 5 ?
Sorry for bad English!!
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I would wait for Nexus 5, i know it's painful, but trust me, it's gonna be whort it.
Mithrandir007 said:
You might want to check other threads yourself before stating "facts" like that.
With the final firmware, things seem different, both version are pretty close to each other, sometimes the S600 version wins, sometimes the Octa does.
But most of the time, it seems the Octa has a faster CPU, but the overclocked Adreno 320 in the S600 version of the S4 beats the PowerVR 544MP3 of the Octa version.
Here's a comparison with the latest and most strenuous benchmark from GLBenchmark :
http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?benc...true&arch-MIPS=true&arch-x86=true&base=device
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Glbenchmarks are not a good way for comparing gaming performance.
I think, gaming would be quite same on both devices.
i9100g user said:
Glbenchmarks are not a good way for comparing gaming performance.
I think, gaming would be quite same on both devices.
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That's ultimately what I meant, but you're right.. benchmarks are not the best way to compare gaming performance, but right now, it's pretty much all we have to compare
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You might want to check other threads yourself before stating "facts" like that.
With the final firmware, things seem different, both version are pretty close to each other, sometimes the S600 version wins, sometimes the Octa does.
But most of the time, it seems the Octa has a faster CPU, but the overclocked Adreno 320 in the S600 version of the S4 beats the PowerVR 544MP3 of the Octa version.
Here's a comparison with the latest and most strenuous benchmark from GLBenchmark :
http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?benc...true&arch-MIPS=true&arch-x86=true&base=device
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Lol you tell me to check other threads then repeat exactly what I just said? Anyways, I'm not basing my info of a single stream on benchmarks conducted by someone after a few firmware updates, that doesn't show anything and certainly doesn't do much towards leveling the playing ground between the two soc's. I've done pretty extensive research into the architectures of mobile chipsets, both Qualcomm and arm designs; mostly reading up on how each generation changes from one to the next and some blue prints. S600, or even s800, based chips will not perform as well as any a15 chip. More efficient? Definitely, but that's about it. In fact the s800 architecture really doesn't deviate that greatly from the dated krait s4.
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Damn the Gs4 has 8 cores what Gigs is the processor 1.8?
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rp56 said:
Damn the Gs4 has 8 cores what Gigs is the processor 1.8?
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The international variant has 8, with only 4 being able to be active at a time. 4 a15 cores clocked at 1.6ghz, and 4 a7 which I believe are clocked at 1.2 (I could be very wrong). Most of the world is receiving the i9505 variant which uses Qualcomm's s600 quad core though
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Lol you tell me to check other threads then repeat exactly what I just said? Anyways, I'm not basing my info of a single stream on benchmarks conducted by someone after a few firmware updates, that doesn't show anything and certainly doesn't do much towards leveling the playing ground between the two soc's. I've done pretty extensive research into the architectures of mobile chipsets, both Qualcomm and arm designs; mostly reading up on how each generation changes from one to the next and some blue prints. S600, or even s800, based chips will not perform as well as any a15 chip. More efficient? Definitely, but that's about it. In fact the s800 architecture really doesn't deviate that greatly from the dated krait s4.
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Hmm, you were the one talking about benchmarks (and how the Octa smothers the SD600 in them), I only gave you a link to one (that should be among the best benchmarks for GPU) that contradicts what you said.
If you want links to other benchmarks showing the same type of results between the 2 SOC, it's not hard to find either, it's not like this is the only benchmark giving these results.
Also, theoretical performance (based on blue prints, and the architecture of the SOCs) is one thing, but it does not always translate to practical performance.
To tell you the truth, I was pretty sure I'd import the i9500, but I'm changing my mind more and more based on what I'm reading.
I'm still not sure right now though
But in real life use and gaming, it shouldn't really make a noticeable difference in performance whether you have one or the other.
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Hmm, you were the one talking about benchmarks (and how the Octa smothers the SD600 in them), I only gave you a link to one (that should be among the best benchmarks for GPU) that contradicts what you said.
If you want links to other benchmarks showing the same type of results between the 2 SOC, it's not hard to find either, it's not like this is the only benchmark giving these results.
Also, theoretical performance (based on blue prints, and the architecture of the SOCs) is one thing, but it does not always translate to practical performance.
To tell you the truth, I was pretty sure I'd import the i9500, but I'm changing my mind more and more based on what I'm reading.
I'm still not sure right now though
But in real life use and gaming, it shouldn't really make a noticeable difference in performance whether you have one or the other.
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Fair enough. I suppose I did contradict myself, didn't I
By the way I'm getting the i9505 as well.
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MultiLockOn said:
Fair enough. I suppose I did contradict myself, didn't I
By the way I'm getting the i9505 as well.
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Yeah, but truth is that it's still hard to tell which version is better, and it probably won't even make much difference in usage
Battery usage is still unknown too, even though on paper, the Exynos sounds good, it really depends on what you do, and how well the dual processor architecture manages that.
I am planning to buy S4
But I'm not sure which is better
Snapdragon 600
1.9 Ghz
Quad Core Krait 300.
or
Exynos5
1.6 Ghz Octal Core
Quad Core Cortex A15 / Quad Core A7
4g and installing roms is not important to me
Which is better in terms of performance? less lag ?
Which is better for gaming?
Yet another thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo7nJQzfWsE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Look at that review and make your mind up
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an9093 said:
I am planning to buy S4
But I'm not sure which is better
Snapdragon 600
1.9 Ghz
Quad Core Krait 300.
or
Exynos5
1.6 Ghz Octal Core
Quad Core Cortex A15 / Quad Core A7
4g and installing roms is not important to me
Which is better in terms of performance? less lag ?
Which is better for gaming?
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Hi,
Look HERE
That's a no brainer....the Exy. But does anyone really have a choice? Especially in America.
i have a choice they both are available the same price with local warrenty
The exynos here is cheaper online but for me, no 4G = no go. Since buying an S3 4G last year there is no way I can go back to 3G again.
The speed difference is enormous and 4G here costs no more than 3G. And on the Telstra network it's even better. Have hit over 50mbps on speed tests.
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dman777 said:
That's a no brainer....the Exy.
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Except it really isn't.
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Over simplifying it the Octacore version is slightly faster but has a poorer battery (4G not withstanding). Snapdragon touch slower (but faster than most phones todsy) but it'll last longer. There are lots of debates on whether the Octacore version ca be improved but this is how it stands right now as the biggest differences.
Other option is Stock version......
-Airax
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Except it really isn't.
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Well, in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeRcKHF4bDc&feature=youtu.be&a the girl states that she can not tell a difference between the two....except in GPU power. So, if you like to have less GPU power...then yes, the Qualcomm would be what you want.
dman777 said:
Well, in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeRcKHF4bDc&feature=youtu.be&a the girl states that she can not tell a difference between the two....except in GPU power. So, if you like to have less GPU power...then yes, the Qualcomm would be what you want.
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You have that a little backwards: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40554113
Also, go and ask any cedarview Atom owners what they think of the PowerVR SGX54x and the driver 'support' it gets. After that fiasco I would never buy another product that has a GPU from Imagination Technologies.
XTCrefugee said:
You have that a little backwards: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40554113
Also, go and ask any cedarview Atom owners what they think of the PowerVR SGX54x and the driver 'support' it gets. After that fiasco I would never buy another product that has a GPU from Imagination Technologies.
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That is interesting. But seeing for myself in that video, it is hard not to believe that the Exy GPU is better.
dman777 said:
Well, in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeRcKHF4bDc&feature=youtu.be&a the girl states that she can not tell a difference between the two....except in GPU power. So, if you like to have less GPU power...then yes, the Qualcomm would be what you want.
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I'm still waiting to see what makes the Exynos version a 'no brainer'. Was that it?
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Pagnell said:
I'm still waiting to see what makes the Exynos version a 'no brainer'. Was that it?
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Sure, no problem....It was "Exynos takes the edge, ie camera and GPU". You can also watch the video and see...physical proof is nice.
I see. So for someone who needs 4G and has a preference for CM or AOKP the Exynos is still a 'no brainer' simply because it's performance is slightly better on certain benchmarks?
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Why are you saying Exynos GPU is better than S600? I saw benchmarks where the Adreno 320 beat the powerVR SGX544 (though benchmarks are sometimes useless ^^)
Exynooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooos
ive seen many vids on youtube about the two devices and i gotta say there not a big diffrenet in perfrmance
just get the one that available in your country
Right, I cannot make my mind up so I thought I would come on here, il make it short.
Which has better performance - Snapdragon 800 OR Exynos 5420
I don't give a flying f*** about 4G or 4K. Which one has better performance i.e which is faster?
hayat55 said:
Right, I cannot make my mind up so I thought I would come on here, il make it short.
Which has better performance - Snapdragon 800 OR Exynos 5420
I don't give a flying f*** about 4G or 4K. Which one has better performance i.e which is faster?
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I would say the Snapdragon 800 because more devs would get it= more roms, better clock speed, better battery life because of chipset enhancements, faster charging because of chipset enhancements. If none of those matter to you get the Exynos version.
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hayat55 said:
Right, I cannot make my mind up so I thought I would come on here, il make it short.
Which has better performance - Snapdragon 800 OR Exynos 5420
I don't give a flying f*** about 4G or 4K. Which one has better performance i.e which is faster?
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Define performance.
Then we talk. My definition of performance is much different from that of my neighbour.
Dont you think you are showing too much attitude? How hard is it to say please? And snapdragon and exynos benchmarks are about the same
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Dont you think you are showing too much attitude? How hard is it to say please? And snapdragon and exynos benchmarks are about the same
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To be technical, it seems that Exynos benchmarks are slightly higher. However, I believe that is without the HMP update. With that, scores will skyrocket.
I can't make my mind up whether to get snapdragon 800 version or exynos 5420. By performance i mean which can do more multitasking and which can run apps faster etc
From what I've seen the scores are indeed about the same on the benchmark front. They will both be good! I'm guessing the s800 will get more dev support and probably cm. It will all be your choice, do you want lte or not.
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From what I've seen the scores are indeed about the same on the benchmark front. They will both be good! I'm guessing the s800 will get more dev support and probably cm. It will all be your choice, do you want lte or not.
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One thing that pushes me towards the exynos is that it has 1866 ram speed whereas snapdragon only has 800
Which do you think will be better in the long run?
^^^ forgot to mention that because exynos has higher ram speed then that means quicker performance.
So, which one should I get? Will there really be any difference between the performance of exynos 5420 and snapdragon 800?
You really do seem to have an attitude in your posts. Anyways, the phone isn't out yet so all anybody has is benchmarks to go by. Not a lot of real world use reviews out there to compare the two.
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I guess the ram speed can be neglected in real life usage. The s4 with the s600 feels the same as the octa version to me. And that is while the octa s4 obliterated the s600 in Antutu and some other Benchmarks. Like I've said before, if you want lte and better rom support get the s800 one. If you're really spec whoring get a 8 core exynos.
Anyways, from what I've seen so far the s800 seems to be faster in Antutu but not that much so I guess they will be at the same level of performance.
I would get any device I could get which for me is the s800 since I'm from the Netherlands.
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S800
LTE
Better support
Benchmark mean absolutely nothing and are a terrible way if measuring a phone. I've seen plenty if phones have high numbers but real world experience sucked.
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Easy. Snapdragon since there will be much more support for it from developers.
Also, don't forget, the 8-core is a lie
You have your normal 4-cores with an additional 4 'smaller' cores to handle always running less intense things. I really don't see the advantage to this, you don't get more out of benchmarks because those 4 'smaller' cores won't be used, except by some obscure background task that wouldn't slow down the benchmark anyways. It also won't help with the battery life, no matter how you spin it a clock cycle is a clock cycle.
The only time you will see gains from small memory speed increases are in things like calculating pie, so again, useless for day-to-day stuff. As other have stated, support. Qualcomm based will get AOSP based roms without any problems.
If you are looking to flaunt your meaningless bigger numbers around, by all means, get the 8-core.
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Also, don't forget, the 8-core is a lie
You have your normal 4-cores with an additional 4 'smaller' cores to handle always running less intense things. I really don't see the advantage to this, you don't get more out of benchmarks because those 4 'smaller' cores won't be used, except by some obscure background task that wouldn't slow down the benchmark anyways. It also won't help with the battery life, no matter how you spin it a clock cycle is a clock cycle.
The only time you will see gains from small memory speed increases are in things like calculating pie, so again, useless for day-to-day stuff. As other have stated, support. Qualcomm based will get AOSP based roms without any problems.
If you are looking to flaunt your meaningless bigger numbers around, by all means, get the 8-core.
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Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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Source? Cause idk about that....
kiter86 said:
Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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I thought they were. Wasn't it something like a Heterogeneous or HMP update.
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Source? Cause idk about that....
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was news a few weeks ago.......
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...-update-to-become-true-octa-core-chip_id47353
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...a-software-new-hardware-not-needed-after-all/
kiter86 said:
Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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It can't be a true 8-core. The extra 4 cores are far less powerful then the other 4.
designgears said:
It can't be a true 8-core. The extra 4 cores are far less powerful then the other 4.
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Let me tell you some preludes:
The reason behind using 8 cores was to put in a pair of four aggressively powerful quad processors like the cortex A15 with another pair of less powerful yet more power efficient four quad processors like cortex A7.
This is the main intention behind putting all these 8 cores of ARM's big.little architecture. The purpose is to let the A15s handle power hungry tasks like web page opening, playing an asphalt 8 game etc while the a7s would handle "simple" tasks. This is more vividly demoed in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwbeb08W27U
Now, the way you are saying it is not a true 8 core processor as if you are
1. demanding 8 cortex A15 processors using 28 nm technology.
Do you know/have any idea what could happen if they all be available online at the same time in this case?
or
2. you knew there was a "true" octa core processor in the world, to be (or already) implemented in another device. IF SO, point us to that device and also explain what is the ideal to call a processor true 8 core.
It was never an intention of ARM to put eight A15s (for example) available for heterogeneous multi-processing.
Go here. Again 64 bit A57s are to be paired with 32 bit A52s.
Even the S4 equipped with exynos 5410 is an octa core processor device. It is just that the bloody CCI (cache coherence interconnector, CCI400) was crippled to enable all the 8 cores available online. Once the 8 cores packed in a SoC like this it is an octa core processor device. Whether or not you like it to call true 8 core.
Samsung/ARM worked on this and released another SoC (in the form of upgraded exynos) which has a working CCI that is free from the above mentioned flaw(s) which will have Cluster Migration by default and will receive the update that is made from Linaro team to enable all the 8 cores available online and therefore will become a "TRULY WORKING" 8 core processor which is implemented in Note 3.
These are facts, these have been heavily discussed in the general section of Samsung Galaxy S4 forums.
Oh, another thing- just because all these 8 cores are made to be available online it does not mean all the 8 cores will be working Simultaneously regardless of what application is in the process. Depending on the needs of the app(s) all these 8 cores (ranging from 1 core to the extreme case- 8 cores) can be used. If an app needs 4 cores, they can be used. If it needs 6 cores then they can be used. If it needs 8 cores then they can be used.
I personally am curious to see how it be going when all the 8 cores were used for an app.
And to the OP who's demadning a straight answer, my thoughts:
we do not know anything atm how power efficient and cool it'd be to have the HMP doing all these tasks. This requires
real life buyers buy the device
start playing with it
see how hot the device becomes (compared to another exynos device like s4).
It actually depends on those stuffs. You demand the answer as if we all knew from the beginning how exynos 5420 gonna perform in real life.
Is there a performance difference between the Snapdragon 800 and Samsung Exynos 5 Octa (1.9 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 + 1.3 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7) Core variants in terms of UI fluency thanks in advance.
I have had bad experience with Exynos as they become so slow after time. I will never buy one again.
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I think no difference, or it is very slight. I saw no lags during my daily usage.
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ibrhmymn said:
Is there a performance difference between the Snapdragon 800 and Samsung Exynos 5 Octa (1.9 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 + 1.3 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7) Core variants in terms of UI fluency thanks in advance.
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Many people here says that snapdragon is a much better option. I agree with them.
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Snapdragon is LTE .. Exynos is not.. That's one difference.. The rest may be the same...
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LTE and 4K video on Snapdragon, not on Exynos. Snapdragon has little better GPU, Exynos could be tiny bit little faster on CPU side in some tests, but not others . If anybody has any issues with UI speed it is most likely not hardware issue, but software.
pete4k said:
LTE and 4K video on Snapdragon, not on Exynos. Snapdragon has little better GPU, Exynos could be tiny bit little faster on CPU side in some tests, but not others . If anybody has any issues with UI speed it is most likely not hardware issue, but software.
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well - i think UI is more part of the gpu, so the gpu has to be potent.
If i ware you, ot, i would buy the SD Device. Reason? LTE and a higher cpu clock (I'm testing the wonderchild kernel - 3ghz, fast as hell
Also, there are more kernels for the SD device, as the exynos version is not so popular in many countries...
äon said:
well - i think UI is more part of the gpu, so the gpu has to be potent.
If i ware you, ot, i would buy the SD Device. Reason? LTE and a higher cpu clock (I'm testing the wonderchild kernel - 3ghz, fast as hell
Also, there are more kernels for the SD device, as the exynos version is not so popular in many countries...
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thaks for your answer I ask the same question to the Samsung US Chat agent and he said Octacore variant is better in overall performance. What do you think I also closer to the Snapdragon version but I am not in US and due to that reason is there a region lock and it should be unlocked by the service provider. I could not decide.
The only reason I chose the Qcomm over the Exynos is because the former has LTE capability.
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I have had bad experience with Exynos as they become so slow after time. I will never buy one again.
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are you serious about that??
me too would personally prefer the snapdragon over the exynos, but your statement is crap!
if something gets slow over time it's the OS or the nand (4.3 supports the trim command, so this
should not be an issue anymore). like a pc with windows, after some time it gets full of garbage
and this has some impact on performance, not the used processor type!
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thaks for your answer I ask the same question to the Samsung US Chat agent and he said Octacore variant is better in overall performance. What do you think I also closer to the Snapdragon version but I am not in US and due to that reason is there a region lock and it should be unlocked by the service provider. I could not decide.
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I think it's simple.
Does you provider support LTE? ==> GET A QCOMM
It doesn't? ==> GET AN EXYNOS
I hope i could help you
Your post is crap.
How is it is when I factory reset or flash new room? Sånne sit happened to note 1 and 10.1. No more crapy exynos.
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SD800 = 4G LTE & 4k video rec.
Exynos 5 = no 4G LTE & 4k video rec.
kenny1991 said:
Your post is crap.
How is it is when I factory reset or flash new room? Sånne sit happened to note 1 and 10.1. No more crapy exynos.
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lol, you have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
TML1504 said:
lol, you have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
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I would like to ask about the region lock of Note 3, if for example I buy a Note 3 (n9005-snapdragon 800) from Bestbuy and I want to use it in different country which does not support lte can I use it or what should I do to use it thank you in advance