I'm new to root... - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello all from Italy.
Two days ago I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S4 and I'm wondering what to do when Samsung will release some new update for this phone, as the OTA feature is now deactivated due for firmware modifications.
I've also reset the counter via "Triangle Away" and the firmware is now detected as "original".
I'm not interested for the moment in a custom firmware and would like to keep the original Samsung.
My questions are:
1) can I incrementally update my phone via Kies, any times Samsung will release new patches (OTA is disabled) ?
2) someone told me Odin has an update feature that permit to install incremental updates anytime Samsung release them, but I've not found this feature.
3) if I use Odin to update the firmware I will loose any data, applications, settings and homescreen configurations or I can restore a backup made with Kies?
I'm sorry for my poor english, for my inexperience and hope to get help from someone.
Thank you and have a nice day.

dequadim said:
Hello all from Italy.
Two days ago I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S4 and I'm wondering what to do when Samsung will release some new update for this phone, as the OTA feature is now deactivated due for firmware modifications.
I've also reset the counter via "Triangle Away" and the firmware is now detected as "original".
I'm not interested for the moment in a custom firmware and would like to keep the original Samsung.
My questions are:
1) can I incrementally update my phone via Kies, any times Samsung will release new patches (OTA is disabled) ?
2) someone told me Odin has an update feature that permit to install incremental updates anytime Samsung release them, but I've not found this feature.
3) if I use Odin to update the firmware I will loose any data, applications, settings and homescreen configurations or I can restore a backup made with Kies?
I'm sorry for my poor english, for my inexperience and hope to get help from someone.
Thank you and have a nice day.
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if u have rooted device for now you wont get any ota and cannot get any update using kies u can use Odin to flash latest update available for your variant
the firmware you can get it from sammobile.com or u can also see my sign it has a link
2nd option
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
use the link above it has pre rooted firmware which will allow you to get OTA and kies update but once u flash u ll loose root
Note: the 2nd option is valid for variant i9505 international use only if u have that or go through the link to get more details

Thanks for your reply.
Just a question: if I unroot my phone using the "SuperSU" feature then can I have OTA and Kies updates working again or a total flash is still needed?
In few words a unroot with the SuperSU feature is useless or not?

dequadim said:
Thanks for your reply.
Just a question: if I unroot my phone using the "SuperSU" feature then can I have OTA and Kies updates working again or a total flash is still needed?
In few words a unroot with the SuperSU feature is useless or not?
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U must flash pre rooted firmware from the link I gave to get OTA
or must flash stock firmware and reset the device to get OTA that's the best option as per me

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KJ4/KJ4/KJ4 to KK9/KK5/KK9 upgrade available on Kies (for Germany sourced phones)

I haven't found this mentioned elsewhere on the forum but this afternoon I was notified of a KJ4/KJ4/KJ4(DBT) to KK9/KK5/KK9(DBT) upgrade by Kies.
(I'm posting here because it is not a "ROM Development" post.)
Based on feedback in the thread I believe the update only applies to phones sourced from Germany, such as those supplied by amazon.de. There will be a (DBT) suffix after the KK4 bit
I'm afraid I can't answer questions about the contents of the update or provide any technical advice about installation. I don't have the answers. I'm just bringing the availability of the update to people's attention. Hopefully, if you do have questions, someone with more knowledge of these things will chime in. This is my first Samsung phone and I've never been through the Kies update procedure before.
FWIW I'm doing a full Titanium Backup of everything and also a backup in Kies. I have not yet applied the update. I did try to do a Nandroid backup, but without installing CWM the option to backup is not available, and apart from rooting with Zerglings I do not want to mess with the phone beyond that.
Thanks, updated my EU Note to 2.3.6 and KK9 from 2.3.5 and KJ4.
P.S. lost root. Going to do a factory reset, root and reinstall my apps with titanium backup.
P.P.S. re-rooted the Note using Easy Rooting Toolkit, can't install CWM yet since there is not a version for KK9 yet.
When I connect to Kies I'm getting this:
Why does Kies say: Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies?
My note is stock
this is my 1st Android phone, do I need to backup before update if it's available from system update? Thanks
System update on the phone did not find any new update for me.
You need to connect the Note to Kies and a pop up box should come up to let you know there is an update, the whole process was around 15 mins in my case.
I think Kies will auto backup your phone before install the new update, and all your apps and files should be there when the update is done as this update does not wipe your device.
Just did the update, it shows now 2.3.6 . Le't see the improvements
Steelduines said:
When I connect to Kies I'm getting this:
Why does Kies say: Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies?
My note is stock
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Have you changed your product code to something other than it came stock? (i.e. have you changed CSC manually).
If you have - you will need to change it back to the original one and then Kies will let you update.
Let us know improvement you've noticed so far...
My phone is on PDA:KK2 / PHONE:KK1 / CSC:KK2 (TTT) and won't update...
clubtech said:
Have you changed your product code to something other than it came stock? (i.e. have you changed CSC manually).
If you have - you will need to change it back to the original one and then Kies will let you update.
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Nope I didn't change anything on my Note it's completely stock....
Edit:
N7000XXKJ4
CSC:OXAKJ4
My upgrade is complete. I didn't time it but it seemed to proceed very slowly - I can't imagine what it was doing that could take so long - and then timed out part way through the process. I restarted from the beginning and it all went through OK, but again very slowly.
I could not get Kies to backup my data prior to the upgrade as it kept giving an error. I don't know whether that was anything to do with having rooted the phone, so I unrooted as a precaution and decided just to get on with the upgrade.
I didn't unroot, but normally, i lose root after flashing.
After that rooted with the simple zergRush method, working like a charm.
What version of kies were you using
I am not getting the update.
I get what I've attached in Kies 2.1.0.11095_121.
I bought my Note from Negrielectronics, I think it's Polish, but I've left it stock.
Think its country specific?
I am not sure if it's country specific.
Can anybody who has received the update say whether or not it makes the UI less laggy?
Steelduines said:
When I connect to Kies I'm getting this:
Why does Kies say: Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies?
My note is stock
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I have the same problem the other day when I tried it with mine.....
Is yours Polish Version? Mine is, and I got it from handtec....
Will try it again soon, and if it doesn't work...I will have to make a complaint to handtec!!!
virtuatony said:
I am not getting the update.
I get what I've attached in Kies 2.1.0.11095_121.
I bought my Note from Negrielectronics, I think it's Polish, but I've left it stock.
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I dont know if it's about the country where you are. I've read in the one development forum thread that you might have to do a factory reset. Many people reply that it worked for them...
rdosti said:
What version of kies were you using
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Kies 2.1.0.11095_121.
I don't know how Samsung has all this organised, but my Note is a European model from amazon.de and I am running Kies from within the UK.
My Note was on KJ4/4/4. If your Note is on some other ROM version at the moment then I doubt very much that you will get the update to KK9/5/9.
I did not have to perform a factory wipe before or after the upgrade. As far as I can tell everything is intact but now I am on 2.3.6 instead of 2.3.5.
hmm, kies is still telling me KJ4 is the latest. polish version here.
stock rom untouched,
PDA: KJ4 PHONE: KJ4 CSC: KJ3 (PLS)

manually updating s4 software ?

I'm planning to buy this phone as soon as its available, I am currently using samsung galaxy nexus. The best feature of these phones is that you can easily manually update them to the latest software release officially. lets say google releases 4.2.3, all I have to do is get the update package (zip file), put it in the phone, boot to cmw recovery and flash it.
can this be done in s4? lets say samsung releases an update for the software later on, can i find the update online and manually update my phone or should i wait for the update to reach my country and update it ota ?
thanks
you can do it either way.
1. If you root your phone you can download the latest firmware from this forum and install it by cwm.
2. You can wait for the official update through your carrier and download it that way.
First choice allows you to flash custom roms that remove bloatware.
second choice you will get the bloatware and you will need to spend time removing depending on yoyur preferences.
shouldn't I unlock the bootloader first?
As soon as CWM is available for i9500/i9505, you will be able to flash custom firmwares from the moment developers start uploading their firmwares.
PeritoX said:
shouldn't I unlock the bootloader first?
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If you are rooting the phone, you are unlocking the bootloader but not necessarily the phone tself.
you need a program like galaxy sim to unlock the phone to use on any carrier.

[Q] no ota updates on i9505

Hiya i bought a samsung galaxy s4 i9505 unlocked from amazon directly. For some reason i cannot get updates via kies or ota and i manually had to flash a offical firmware with odin so that i had the most up to date firmware. Does anyone know why i cant get updates ota? My carrier is "3" in the uk however the phone is factory unlocked any help is appreciated. What would i have to do to get updates ota or via kies?
ahsan2k12 said:
Hiya i bought a samsung galaxy s4 i9505 unlocked from amazon directly. For some reason i cannot get updates via kies or ota and i manually had to flash a offical firmware with odin so that i had the most up to date firmware. Does anyone know why i cant get updates ota? My carrier is "3" in the uk however the phone is factory unlocked any help is appreciated. What would i have to do to get updates ota or via kies?
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Hi,
Have 3 released an OTA update yet?
You might get an answer from THIS THREAD
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the device is unbranded so it wont get updates from 3 i think, i think it will get updates from samsung directly
however yes 3 have released ota update however my phone is saying the latest updates have been installed when there are actually infact updates available
ahsan2k12 said:
the device is unbranded so it wont get updates from 3 i think, i think it will get updates from samsung directly
however yes 3 have released ota update however my phone is saying the latest updates have been installed when there are actually infact updates available
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As your phone report that the latest updates have been installed, that means everthing is OK and the phone status is official...
Sometimes some roms available to dowload (for example from Sammobile) could be not available yet in OTA mode. I always flash with Odin, I don't really relay on OTA updates...
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okk thanks, just a quick question which country gets the updates first? and which countrys firmware are you running on your device?
ahsan2k12 said:
the device is unbranded so it wont get updates from 3 i think, i think it will get updates from samsung directly
however yes 3 have released ota update however my phone is saying the latest updates have been installed when there are actually infact updates available
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Hi,
Unbranded phones are due an update on the 7 th
Sent telepathically from my S4

not updating to 4.3

Hi Guys, am new to samsung.
well i have samsung s4 4g, am unable to update to version 4.3 am getting your phone is up to date.
i dont want to update via odin, but what is the problem with my phone!!! i checked sammobile website and found a firmware released in november for my country.
plus: if i updated via odin do i still update via phone if new version released!!!
please help me guys and thanks in advance for all...
darkylight said:
Hi Guys, am new to samsung.
well i have samsung s4 4g, am unable to update to version 4.3 am getting your phone is up to date.
i dont want to update via odin, but what is the problem with my phone!!! i checked sammobile website and found a firmware released in november for my country.
plus: if i updated via odin do i still update via phone if new version released!!!
please help me guys and thanks in advance for all...
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1. Download Kies Software and run it. (www.samsung.com/us/kies)
2. Connect your phone via USB to computer.
3. Kies will tell you if it needs to update or not. (you must be online)
4. If update available, simply click on "Update" button. :good:
If you have android 4.2 you must install "Kies". "Kies version 3" is for Android 4.3 devices.
If you flash a Stock Rom via Odin, you still will be able to update OTA.
martikp said:
1. Download Kies Software and run it. (www.samsung.com/us/kies)
2. Connect your phone via USB to computer.
3. Kies will tell you if it needs to update or not. (you must be online)
4. If update available, simply click on "Update" button. :good:
If you have android 4.2 you must install "Kies". "Kies version 3" is for Android 4.3 devices.
If you flash a Stock Rom via Odin, you still will be able to update OTA.
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i did it, i got " you phone firmware is not compatible with kies"
darkylight said:
i did it, i got " you phone firmware is not compatible with kies"
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Did you rooted your device before?
If you have rooted device your device status is shown modified or custom so you can not update with kies or OTA. Use Wanam Xposed to fake this situation into "Official".
Before that you may try Triangle Away.
NOTE: Use above apps at your own risk.

marshmallow OTA update

I have 5.5.1 android on my note 4. Phone is not rooted. I read on google that this phone have marshmallow update from last year. When I go to system update > check ,i dont get update for my phone. I check model number and for this model is available update. What should i do? How to update my phone over the air?
jjoeshua said:
I have 5.5.1 android on my note 4. Phone is not rooted. I read on google that this phone have marshmallow update from last year. When I go to system update > check ,i dont get update for my phone. I check model number and for this model is available update. What should i do? How to update my phone over the air?
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If its not letting you I don't think you can. Just try to get on PC and update through samsung kies.
You can also go on sammobile.com and download the latest software/firmware and ODIN it to your phone. Instructions are right on the website as well as the latest ODIN software.
Andrew
I just found out that my phone is rooted. I just buy a rooted phone. I dont have idea have is that posible but it rooted. I dont have install TWRP.
Maybe i dont have update because of root?
jjoeshua said:
I just found out that my phone is rooted. I just buy a rooted phone. I dont have idea have is that posible but it rooted. I dont have install TWRP.
Maybe i dont have update because of root?
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Correct root=no ota
I dont know what happened but when I check root again after two hours i got this:
so is it any better than the last MM update?
I checked and i dont have OTA marshmallow. .i dont have pc to try with samsung kies
i have installed it on my EUR phone and it flies as a first impression , security patch update august 2018 though. will report battery life later in the week
Can i change something in phone to get update? Why is happening this? Why i dont have update OTA? Does anyone have this problem and how is fixed? My big problem is that i dont have pc..
If your phone is rooted there may be a program that disables the update applications (com.samsung.sdm and com.samsung.sdmviewer if I remember correctly). What applications (other than stock) are on the phone, such as titanium backup, app quarantine, etc.
Now if someone rooted the phone to make it work with your phone network or other software you use this update may disable the phone and/or software requiring root.
Andrew
I dont have any app in phone that need root for working.
I found and install this SDM but i need a phone to connect with..
can you give ne a little more explanation of this app? What do i need to do when I install it?
I dont have anyone app in phone that need root to work.
Can you give me a litlle more explanation abot this SDM, i found and install it on phone but..i dont know how to use it
Was it not already on the phone? This app automatically checks for OTA updates and downloads them.
You can open settings, scroll all the way down to the 'system' section, click on 'system updates' and then select 'check for updates'. Just make sure you have mobile data connection of some kind. (Cell or Wifi).
SDM should be installed on the phone unless someone specifically removed it. Of course be careful what you download and install. Lots of malicious software out there... If you had the ability to see the 'system update' option in settings, you already had the com.samsung.sdm package and did not need to install anything.
Was this phone sold by your carrier/provider originally or is it one you bought online and was made to work with your carrier/provider?
It is from provider Tmobile.
I give my phone to service provider and pay 10€ and thay put 6.0.1 marshmallow to my phone.
When i get back to my home,I get info that I can update android.
I have download the update, 300mb but when i try to install it,i cant. I get some update error.
Does anyone know what is this update? And how to install it? I have download a couple of times but its always the same. Can not update.
I finally have Marshmallow 6.0.1, but I cant install this next update.
just flashed the latest firmware for your model (from sammobile) via odin in download mode and your would be able to get OTA update easily ...........
I did it ,i have found tmobile firmware, I will try with another one
piku2008 said:
just flashed the latest firmware for your model (from sammobile) via odin in download mode and your would be able to get OTA update easily ...........
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Can I change the firmware , can I download and flash sm-n910f ,thats firmware for Europe,can I install it?
I want to change this sm-n910t to sm-n910f, is that posible?
I dont wont to have tmobile firmware,I just want firmware without brand or provider?
What will happend if I change model?
jjoeshua said:
Can I change the firmware , can I download and flash sm-n910f ,thats firmware for Europe,can I install it?
I want to change this sm-n910t to sm-n910f, is that posible?
I dont wont to have tmobile firmware,I just want firmware without brand or provider?
What will happend if I change model?
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you can change hardware models via flashing other models firmware ......

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