[Comparison] Moto X vs Google Play devices? - Moto X General

I've been waiting for Moto X release for 2 months but the first reviews kind of disappointed me, especially about the camera. Do you think it is worth buying Moto X than that beasts with pure android and probably even better google support?
I am currently using Galaxy Nexus and hate it. It is sooooo slow and the battery life is awful.

I don't really care too much for direct updates since I always use xda ROMs, stock is pointless if you even signup here. Wait no, stock is boring.
Anyway the X doesn't even have 4.3 despite being with Google, I'm certain their relationship is not on the level people assume. Nexus > X=GPe maybe the order that denotes the reliability of updates. For sure we know ole Sammy is questionable, as for HTC anything is possible.
I'm not interested in the X's price to spec, nor the gpe's. With the dawn of S800 beasts coming about I would rather just wait for the G2 if you're a power user, but to each their own.
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Ace42 said:
I don't really care too much for direct updates since I always use xda ROMs, stock is pointless if you even signup here. Wait no, stock is boring.
Anyway the X doesn't even have 4.3 despite being with Google, I'm certain their relationship is not on the level people assume. Nexus > X=GPe maybe the order that denotes the reliability of updates. For sure we know ole Sammy is questionable, as for HTC anything is possible.
I'm not interested in the X's price to spec, nor the gpe's. With the dawn of S800 beasts coming about I would rather just wait for the G2 if you're a power user, but to each their own.
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The X's system is on another level when compared to other devices. The S800 phones have a fast core processor, but lack a dedicated language processor and lack a contextual processor. The way the X is set up, the Snapdragon doesn't really do the bulk of the lifting in the same way the other phones do, hence why it has no need for a S800 processor. I'd go as far as to say Motorola's chip design makes the brute method of throwing everything at one more powerful processor (that all the other phones employ), seem a bit outdated and archaic.

mysterioustko said:
The X's system is on another level when compared to other devices. The S800 phones have a fast core processor, but lack a dedicated language processor and lack a contextual processor. The way the X is set up, the Snapdragon doesn't really do the bulk of the lifting in the same way the other phones do, hence why it has no need for a S800 processor. I'd go as far as to say Motorola's chip design makes the brute method of throwing everything at one more powerful processor (that all the other phones employ), seem a bit outdated and archaic.
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Uh, the snapdragon does everything but gesture and voice recog. Its probably doing 95% of what you do on the device.
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Honestly the camera isn't THAT bad. The phone overall is a quality piece. Everything works well, and it's a very smooth experience.
Couple pics from Sea Life Park today:
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05GT said:
Honestly the camera is THAT bad. The phone overall is a quality piece. Everything works well, and it's a very smooth experience.
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Hold on lemme check... Yup my Samsung Solstice from 2009 takes better pictures.

ryude said:
Hold on lemme check... Yup my Samsung Solstice from 2009 takes better pictures.
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What's your point? Enjoy the solstice.
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My HTC incredible took great pics too, 3 years ago. Let's all share our old pics...oh wait that's dumb. Move on.
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My Moto X is smoother and snappier than my LG Optimus Pro (Snapdragon 600) and my S4. FYI, I do not use my phone for games.
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05GT said:
Honestly the camera isn't THAT bad. The phone overall is a quality piece. Everything works well, and it's a very smooth experience.
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the camera may not seem that bad to joe six pack but to folks that know photography and image reproduction those look horrible. you can't tell me that you don't see that purple monster all over those pics.

gammite said:
the camera may not seem that bad to joe six pack but to folks that know photography and image reproduction those look horrible. you can't tell me that you don't see that purple monster all over those pics.
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Pros that "know photography" don't use smart phones to take photos.
For the OP, buy whatever you want. If you want a "daily driver" thats good for one-handed use, the Moto X is a perfectly valid choice. If you want to compare e-peen for a few more weeks, get a GPe device.

thedosbox said:
Pros that "know photography" don't use smart phones to take photos.
For the OP, buy whatever you want. If you want a "daily driver" thats good for one-handed use, the Moto X is a perfectly valid choice. If you want to compare e-peen for a few more weeks, get a GPe device.
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I agree. a camera on my phone is low on the list near non-existent. i am patiently waiting for my 32 gig.
with that said it is still a crappy firmware for that camera.

thedosbox said:
Pros that "know photography" don't use smart phones to take photos.
For the OP, buy whatever you want. If you want a "daily driver" thats good for one-handed use, the Moto X is a perfectly valid choice. If you want to compare e-peen for a few more weeks, get a GPe device.
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I think the same things... But i don t have a mixed result with pics like you with my moto x... Only the s4 take better pics but my moto x is equal at my s3 n4 or iphone 5...
My wife say my moto is better than their iphone 5 for pics...
My moto x is made in china ( sold by rogers... )
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o2qc418 said:
I think the same things... But i don t have a mixed result with pics like you with my moto x... Only the s4 take better pics but my moto x is equal at my s3 n4 or iphone 5...
My wife say my moto is better than their iphone 5 for pics...
My moto x is made in china ( sold by rogers... )
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it is NOT better than the iPhone 5. Only the S4 can match/outdone the iPhone 5.
having said that, the X is still the best device to hold (physically). And as someone mentioned, there's some clever CPU usage optimization here! I have yet to see it slow down, as where the TouchWiz ROM on the S4 would crawl at unexpected moments.

thedosbox said:
Pros that "know photography" don't use smart phones to take photos.
For the OP, buy whatever you want. If you want a "daily driver" thats good for one-handed use, the Moto X is a perfectly valid choice. If you want to compare e-peen for a few more weeks, get a GPe device.
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Exactly. It's been said in a number of threads already that people are putting too much emphasis on the camera and labeling it "bad" as if they are going to use the camera 10 hours a day and professionally photograph weddings. Bad is a relative term. If you have an sgs4 or iphone, then yes, motoX is bad in comparison. But this can easily be corrected with a camera app update in due time that moto will release. Everything else about this phone is quite flawless in terms of day-to-day experience and usage. Isn't that the type of phone most people want?

gammite said:
the camera may not seem that bad to joe six pack but to folks that know photography and image reproduction those look horrible. you can't tell me that you don't see that purple monster all over those pics.
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What are you looking at?
Only real purple I see is the stuff on top of the turtles.
/facepalm at these people who still think their PHONE should be taking digital photography specialist photos.
Like someone else said, most photography "pros" already have plenty of other equipment.
Don't even get me started on the Lumia 1020, they gave into you camera obsessed people but the rest of the phone is nothing to go home about.
I have the One and I use it's camera on a normal basis and I see little to no difference between the photos I take and some of the Moto X's photos I see.

People will complain no matter what. And most of the complaints are coming from people that don't even own the phone.
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05GT said:
Honestly the camera isn't THAT bad. The phone overall is a quality piece. Everything works well, and it's a very smooth experience.
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I'm not really all up on photography but even I can tell that those pictures don't look right. I assume the Moto Maxx has the same camera problem?

I Am Marino said:
What are you looking at?
Only real purple I see is the stuff on top of the turtles.
/facepalm at these people who still think their PHONE should be taking digital photography specialist photos.
Like someone else said, most photography "pros" already have plenty of other equipment.
Don't even get me started on the Lumia 1020, they gave into you camera obsessed people but the rest of the phone is nothing to go home about.
I have the One and I use it's camera on a normal basis and I see little to no difference between the photos I take and some of the Moto X's photos I see.
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if you read a little further you would see that a camera is low on my list of options for a phone. with that said the pictures still do suck. and as you stated I don't see a reason to goto a 1020 from the 920 I already own. and I am also patiently waiting on my 32 gig moto x which will be my daily driver replacing my atrix 4g which actually takes decent pictures.
and if you can't see that sand, rocks and water are not supposed to have a purple hue I am not sure what to say about that.

To me it looks moss growing over a normally blue-ish pool bottom. The only thing I've read for moto x camera issues is dull color representation not incorrect random colors. Lots of confusion from self-proclaimed camera experts.

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HTC One X is better than SGS3 say HTC

The full details are here but I've provided a handy cut out and keep version for you all here:
Countering Objections
GS3 is slimmer. Only 0.3mm difference! Because the HTC One X is made by HTC we feel that it feels slimmer even though it isn't.
GS3 has removable battery. We counteract this by recommending you drag a second battery around to charge your first battery with as well as your charger to charge either one of those with and this is better because you just have to charge up a spare battery anyway. You can always run fewer apps! Did you know this makes our phone water resistant for all those underwater phone calls you like to make? Using this device under water will invalidate your warranty.
GS3 has SD card slot. HTC One X has 32GB of internal storage plus you can use 25GB of dropbox! We know you can get the GS3 with 32GB of internal storage, put an additional 32GB of sdcard storage in there and it comes with 48GB of dropbox space but hey did we mention UNIBODY UNIBODY UNIBODY!
GS3 has a bigger display. Er yeah but pentile guys it's totally pentile you'd never find us using pentile *hides the One S* so yeah pentile.
HTC One X vs GS3
Better Speed/Faster. One X is 1.5GHz and the GS3 is 1.4GHz so we're like 0.1 faster guys. Using this same reasoning all our workstations in the office still have 3.8GHz Pentium 4s in them because who wants a crappy 2.67GHz i7? This is how we manage to come up with such efficient design decisions!
Better Camera. Like 70% better! What do you mean, quantify? Ours also starts 0.29s faster so imagine if you used the camera once a day for a YEAR we'd save you almost TWO MINUTES!
Better Sound. Beats Audio guys, it's SO the best sound ever. Do you think Dr Dre would use a GS3? Pfff. Does the GS3 have BEATS AUDIO? No way, they have something called Wolfson and we all know that just sucks.
Better Durability. One X is POLYCARBONATE whereas the GS3 is just some kind of PLASTIC. Polycarbonate plastic. So there!
Better Design. World acclaimed design and we were disappointed in the SGS3 being better so we claim it's disappointing.
Also if you view your phone through a macroscope when you're using it you'll so appreciate the pixel layout on the One X far better than on the GS3!
Mod lock thread please. There's already too HTC One X threads for this info to be posted in.
That was rather enjoyable.
SlimJ87D said:
Mod lock thread please. There's already too HTC One X threads for this info to be posted in.
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So glad you read the post. It's nice when users don't just read a thread title, assume what the thread will contain, then knock everything on their desk flying asunder as they dive for the reply button to whine at the moderators about it.
I like the 0.29 sec stuff.. really awesome
I actually calculated how much I would save in the year. It's less than 2 mins! That's a lot of time saved in a year..
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So glad you read the post. It's nice when users don't just read a thread title, assume what the thread will contain, then knock everything on their desk flying asunder as they dive for the reply button to whine at the moderators about it.
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Lol I felt out of place saying that glad u did I read it and looked on the link I think its funny shows a lot about htc .
But I'm.still on the fence over the us or international version but my plans to keep the EVO LTE and get the sgs3 but which lol .
Good find
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LOL, that was funny. Really HTC ?
Just saw this in another forum..
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Damn!! I just keep thinking about that 0.29 sec I am going to save everytime I start the camera app.
Thanks for your contribution .
htc reminds me of how my friend said that his Eco 3d was miles better than s2
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Okay, I can almost understand things like iOS vs. Android vs. etc., but why is One X vs. SG3 even an issue to anyone. They're both great with some limitations. Would anyone not want one of each? sheesh
Everyone with a functional brain knows that sgs 3 is way better. these arguments is just desperate and silly.
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Pretty sure the camera is ready in only 0.933ms ;-)
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enjoyed the post, a lot, than I saw the author's name. There we go again, one of the most brilliant mother****ers around the clock is here again. glad to read you again, enjoyed your posts far more than your kernel
Tapatalked.
something tells me that htc is trying to boost their e-peen... just smells like a lot of insecurity on their part
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enjoyed the post, a lot, than I saw the author's name. There we go again, one of the most brilliant mother****ers around the clock is here again. glad to read you again, enjoyed your posts far more than your kernel
Tapatalked.
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Funny how this was also posted on the hox forum but the thread got locked. HTC can't even find support from their own users
Not surprising really. It really is quite an embarrassingly desperate attempt to trick the layman punters. I feel sorry for ppl who get suckered into buying one and have to face overheating, poor battery and build quality problems. My friend at work has had 5 hox replacements and he's really regretting not waiting for the gs3. His hox keeps reaching over 55 celcius and shuts down in his pocket! O2 said they'll give him a refurbished gs3 for £100 but he has to wait till one shows up.
But gotta say that the s4 version of the hox is brilliant as long as its multitasking issues can be fixed.
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Great article. Also, Sense is better than TW.
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skidz13 said:
Great article. Also, Sense is better than TW.
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True dat!
2 things I love in life - getting screwed over at work by idiot bosses and slow ass user interfaces!
Deebo took your bike too?!
GS3 VS HTC One X: Compared. And the winner is:
1. Better Speed: Winner: GS3. The manufacturing of the GS3 is a newer process, runs cooler, and overall is faster than the One X. If you look in the One X forums you will find people are having problems with One X using one core at times and is causing problems. Some are oveclocking or underclocking just to avoid glitches. This is the One X out of the box that is having issues with the Tegra 3 architecture.
2. Better Camera: Winner: GS3. If you check out the reviews you'll find overall that the One X has an inferior camera. Not to mention I've heard word that it only does 25fps in video compared to the GS3 that does 30fps. All the reviewers mostly say the same thing that GS3 camera is better. The only thing everybody agrees is that the One X burst mode is better. Big deal.
3. Better Sound: Winner: HTC One X. The beats software that HTC One X has is nothing but a software hack and is not done through hardware. So, the improvements that come from Beats, the GS3 is capable of these benefits through software. One area that I would say that the One X may have the GS3 beat is in sound performance out the speaker. I saw a comparison. The One X audio had a fuller sound out of the speaker that the GS3. Although, I think they might have said that the GS3 had a little bit louder volume.
4. Better Durability: The One X is made of Polycarbonate, which sounds like a good thing. Right? No. Because the quality control is so bad at the factories, HTC fans are having to buy theirs locally. They're having to pick through boxes to find a good one . What they are finding is creaks in the plastic, loose builds, and malformed polycarbonate mold. How bad? Well, bad enough that on they're forums pole 30% had miscellaneous problems. Not to mention complaints about screens that had dusts specks underneath, glue underneath the screen, "screen ripple", and screen cracks. Am I making this up, no. Read the One X forums. Not to mention, that the curvature of the glass on the HTC One X increases the chances of screen breakage. The lightweight plastic on Galaxy devices (while not having the most expensive feel) through the years has been good when it comes to dropping, as the plastic is very bendable and flexible.
5. Better Design: Winner: Tie. The One X has a more "razor" phone type design which looks very nice. Although, the GS3 is thinner. Overall, the GS3 has the better design because the rounded edges makes it more comfortable to use. Its just like the Iphone 3gs design vs the Iphone 4s design. The Iphone 3gs is a better design because it looks good and feels way nicer in your hand. I'm not to fond of the "plain" back of the GS3 or some of the curved accents that are easily seen on the white GS3. Overall, I like the design of the GS3 because it looks good, it is thin, and is the most comfortable in your hand.
Overall the winner is the GS3. I had a opportunity to get either phone. I actually was set on buying the HTC One X. That was until I read all the problems that they were having at the One X forums. In the end these were my observations. The last straw for me was when users were having stuttering problems with the video player months after the phone was released. They were able to fix the problem by deleting flv files that were in the gallery directory (you can't be serious lol). Another notable mention is that the HTC One X doesn't even have its own video player and they rely on the gallery out of the box. Finally, the GS3 has better codec support that is built in to the hardware.
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HTC One X vs GS3
Better Speed/Faster. One X is 1.5GHz and the GS3 is 1.4GHz so we're like 0.1 faster guys. Using this same reasoning all our workstations in the office still have 3.8GHz Pentium 4s in them because who wants a crappy 2.67GHz i7? This is how we manage to come up with such efficient design decisions!
Better Camera. Like 70% better! What do you mean, quantify? Ours also starts 0.29s faster so imagine if you used the camera once a day for a YEAR we'd save you almost TWO MINUTES!
Better Sound. Beats Audio guys, it's SO the best sound ever. Do you think Dr Dre would use a GS3? Pfff. Does the GS3 have BEATS AUDIO? No way, they have something called Wolfson and we all know that just sucks.
Better Durability. One X is POLYCARBONATE whereas the GS3 is just some kind of PLASTIC. Polycarbonate plastic. So there!
Better Design. World acclaimed design and we were disappointed in the SGS3 being better so we claim it's disappointing.

Moto X Pros/Cons IMO

Moto X Cons/Pros IMO
Hi, this can be a base for new Moto X users coming from other smartphones.
Pros
1. Moto X has one of the smoothest and fastest Android experience you'll have with any smartphone today.
If you're coming from a non-nexus smartphone, you'll definitely feel that. Everything just works in Moto X. It's the smartphone with the nearest experience of an iPhone in terms of speed and smoothness.
2. Moto X feels great in hand. It has the perfect size for a smartphone.
3. Screen size is perfect, you can reach every corner without a hassle.
Although some users might feel the difference coming from a bigger screen, you'll definately get used to it in no time.
4. Good materials, it feels like you're holding a really well made product. Not just plastic stuff.
5. Twist to fast access to camera is great.
I'm still getting used to it, but accessing the camera without even touching the screen is very handy. I thought it would be too much of a hassle to do that movement every time, but it turns out you get used to it very fast, and that's pretty easy.
6. Touchless Control.
Although it's almost useless here in Brazil, I'll include that because is it's really useful for the main languages that it includes. I still use it to showoff though. :victory:
7. The speaker is one of the best I've listened so far.
It's one of the loudest, its quality is pretty good. Basses are good too.
8. Battery life is superb.
It lasts for your entire day and even a little bit more. Compared to my last phone, a S3, I can really feel the difference.
9. Battery charges really fast.
Within 2 hours or so, my Moto X charges from 0% to 100% with stock wall charger. Considering its battery time, it's an amazingly fast charge: 2 hours charge for a 24h+ usage. My S3 used to charge in 5h+
10. Fast updates.
This is not something that will certainly happen, but it seems Motorola is committed to bring us Android OS updates and improvements updates really quickly. Although it has not been released for my Moto X here in Brazil yet, it's been released for the Moto X faster than the Nexus devices. Let's hope they keep it like that for some years, and not just because it's the momentum smartphone.
11. Active Notifications.
The best thing invented after the wheel, don't have to say anything about this.
Cons
1. Onscreen buttons takes too much space.
Although Moto X screen size is perfect, its virtual buttons takes a lot of that space, and you might feel a big hit when coming from a 4.8/5" phone that has its entire dedicated screen.
2. Camera is terrible.
Coming from a S3, I definitely felt a big hit here. Camera takes a big time to shoot photos; it takes too long to focus; it takes pics with different tonality every time, it's even hard to shoot 2 similar photos from 2 different angles. Below is an example of that.
Camera software is not the best aswell. We don't have night mode, quality/px choice, effects, and so on.
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3. Touchless Control doesn't work everywhere.
For example in Brazil, not all the commands are available and it's just useful to call for someone and check weather predictions. Despite using it to call for someone, we don't get audio feedback for any of the commands.
4. Too thin for 2 hands usage?
That's a real real personal thought, but although Moto X has the perfect size for a one-hand feel, I'm really having a hard time typing in the keyboard and I wouldn't blame if it was a little wider. The phone is thinner than the S3, that I used to rest both hands and type, and wider than a smartphone that we can rest one hand and use the other sidewards.
But I'm really sure it's something I'll get used to within some time.
5. No sdcard slot.
I'm yet to see if this will be really a down vote to me on Moto X, but at least in my old S3, I had to use a 16gb sdcard to store some extra musics and pics. The default 16gb was not sufficient.
Well, that's it. It's a really great phone and it was for sure a great improvement coming from a S3. I do miss S3's camera and physical buttons, but despite that and the listed above, there's nothing else I can blame this phone for.
Feel free to add your own opinions, cons and pros.
I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
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Royalfox said:
I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
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Yes, I'm using the lastest Jelly Bean OTA update and the lastest camera update from the Play Store.
I've added 1 item to the con and 1 to the pros that I forgot to mention.
Royalfox said:
I plan on getting this phone ?
Did you update your phone already? I've heard it does improve the camera picture quality drastically!
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I used a demo at the store (one had kitkat and one didn't), and the kitkat one was SO much better. I think this camera really competes with the other flagships now.
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Yes, I'm using the lastest Jelly Bean OTA update and the lastest camera update from the Play Store.
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He means Kitkat i think.
@op great pros and cons list.
My pros:
- active display
- great feel in hand
- touchless control is really impressive (even works when the phone is in your pocket and you have headphones plugged in)
- battery life
- speaker
- performance
- call quality
- twist to launcher the camera
Cons:
- display is way too over saturated
- phone is heavier than I thought
- The camera is probably the worst I have used from all the other flagship phones this year, it really is a joke.
- locked boot loader.
This phone does the phone functionalities extremely well though I must say.
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Please explain how are you cooking those hot dogs. They look delicious.
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barondebxl said:
@op great pros and cons list.
My pros:
- active display
- great feel in hand
- touchless control is really impressive (even works when the phone is in your pocket and you have headphones plugged in)
- battery life
- speaker
- performance
- call quality
- twist to launcher the camera
Cons:
- display is way too over saturated
- phone is heavier than I thought
- The camera is probably the worst I have used from all the other flagship phones this year, it really is a joke.
- locked boot loader.
This phone does the phone functionalities extremely well though I must say.
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I'm not sure if the S3 boot loader is locked aswell, but we had a lot more hacks, mods and roms to use/test on the S3 than o the Moto X.
EVOSerb said:
Please explain how are you cooking those hot dogs. They look delicious.
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It was my GF actually. I shall ask to her how she cooked that
Please do ask. Now just to find the one for my self that will cook like that LOL.
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Tottaly agree! Mostly in the voice commands, in Brasil is not useful like in the US
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Thanks OP for sharing your experience. I'd just like to elaborate on the design.
I don't really quite know how to summarize my idea, but the emphasis on user experience is so great, it's borderline criminal, and it's easily the most understated feature of the Moto X. The texture of the back feels extremely wonderful to hold that doesn't feel like cheap plastic nor cold hard aluminium. The contours (?) of the phone is curved in such a way that feels absolutely comfortable - I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola took the palm/hand profiles of many people and designed the back with it. In conjunction with that, the buttons are positioned well enough to allow me to reach for them whenever I need it. And that dent on the back cover! My finger now gravitates to that point to get a solid grab on the phone. _Finally_ I have a phone that doesn't have to depend on aluminium for that premium feel, or worse still, give UX design a middle finger and design a pile of manure (*coughsamsungcough*) for use.
I was really pleasantly surprised to find out for myself how good the speaker was. It's loud, but distortion is hardly noticeable at maximum volume. (Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, I suppose I get a bit too excited. heh) The camera's been improving steadily, thankfully, but it could use more repairs. I would appreciate it very much if I could take photos faster - the idea of twist-to-camera is kinda wasted on a slow-responding camera like this.
I have friends using the Nexus 5 beside me, and in all honesty I don't feel like I'm missing out on much. Then again, I paid a bloody premium for the phone . But seriously speaking, no regrets. At all. If I had to make the decision all over again, I'd still shoot for the Moto X. Never mind that there's no support for LTE in Malaysia or Singapore (I alternate between these two countries most frequently), or that the SD card slot is missing. I have not been so contented with a purchase in a very, very long time.
For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger
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For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger
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I agree. Coming from the Galaxy Nexus, the plug doesn't seem to go in as firmly as the GNex did. I would have loved wireless charging, as well.
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For me the biggest thing missing is wireless charging inbuilt.. the port for charging is terrible.. tests my patience every time i try to plugin charger
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I agree. Coming from the Galaxy Nexus, the plug doesn't seem to go in as firmly as the GNex did. I would have loved wireless charging, as well.
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I believe a member is working on making it work on his in the accessories section.
What are the chances of a QI case being released? I would be all for that.
Cannot believe incipio decided to make a powermat charging case... WHO USES POWERMAT!?
My biggest and only real complaint about the Moto X is the camera. It does not feel like it matches up to even some 2011 phone cameras.
Nice Article.
I'm loving my Moto X 'Argentina Edition' (no root yet ).
On the 'Cons 4' section I swipe a lot, and never again hold my phoine with 2 hands
While driving I can text with the mic, not sure on portuguese, but spanish works great!
OK Google Now
is so much more sensitive in 4.4. I'm using the nexus 5 gel and my phone is constantly beeping and googling my last few words. Kinda strange
I'm still on 4.2.2 but I would have to say the camera, the smaller screen size, and the color saturation of the screen.
I bought a nexus 5 earlier this month and switch between the two phones all the time. {Google apps sync everything} and those would be my main complaints. Obviously the screen size is completely subjective, but I much prefer the n5 screen. I do like the battery life, but I usually have a charger at work and at home, and both phones seem to give me more than acceptable battery life.
The biggest complaint I have is the lack of accessories, cases and screen protectors for it.
I also would like our Canadian carriers to hurry up with the 4.4 updates.
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Moto E - Review from a G owner.

Ok, first things first, let me just say this phone absolutely unequivocally rocks. I was expecting this sub-£100 device to be pretty crappy in comparison to the Moto G which I already own. Nope. I was completely wrong.
I bought the Moto E three days ago from O2 as they were first to stock it online, it cost me £79. That's it, £79. No minimum top-up or delivery charge, which I'd also like to mention arrived the next morning.
First impression out the box, if you closed your eyes and held both the G and E together you'd be pushed to notice a difference between the two. The Moto E possibly feeling slightly chunkier, yet smaller at the same time?? Even with both eyes open they're virtually identical, and the similarities don't stop there.
The first thing that truly wowed me was that screen. For £79 you're getting an amazing screen for your money, it has the EXACT same clarity and vividness that the Moto G has, and to be honest I think it may actually be better (colour and backlight wise) , albeit very (very!) slightly smaller. Very crisp and sharp, I've never seen this on a phone less than £110-120. Amazing.
Next, CPU. Yes it's only dual core but I'm yet to experience any significant lag, if at all. Even Chrome is a breeze (which is nowadays renowned at being super slow on lower-end mobiles). GPU seems fine also, having tried Temple Run and Subway Surfer, they both never dipped any frame rates. So I can't really fault the onboard processors. Again: amazing.
Camera quality is not spectacular, but guys, this is a budget phone. To be fair the camera is perfect for everyday snaps, I doubt you'd really want more on a daily basis, not unless you're a professional photographer or have £500 for an iPhone.
The loudspeaker, from what I can tell has moved to the front of the phone and is located where the bottom silver bezel is. The top silver bezel obviously being the in-call speaker.
The battery (nearly 2000mAh!!!) is still on it's first charge since it arrived (yesterday morning) and is still reading 15% even after some fierce app installing and exploring.
Besides those main points I'm struggling to find any other major differences between the E and it's older brother.
Motorola are also bringing out new Grip-Shell back covers that replace the stock battery cover and provide a rubberised band around the phones perimeter (like a bumper case, but integrated into the phone). Can't wait to get my hands on them too, though I should think that will be a few weeks yet.
My final verdict is that this phone is an epic ground-breaker, other companies are truly going to struggle to compete with this device in regards to everything: cost, features etc.
My advice to you: find £80, buy this phone and a lottery ticket.
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Thanks for the review. I'm surprised about the screen being so good when it's nearly 30% less in PPI. Running so well on low specs is moto's specialty so that doesn't surprise me, neither the poor camera.
I still think the moto g is a better deal, especially when I got my 16gb version fro. Tesco for just over £100
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Not as surprised as I was, I was expecting a grainy narrow angle screen, like on the low-end samsungs. Complete opposite. I would probably agree with you about the Moto G though, that's still a bargain of the year considering it's specs.
I think the E will be aimed towards people that don't really want to spend a lot, don't really care about super-dooper specs, and just want a phone that works well.
Dont expect more, here in India its costsjust half than Moto G dual 16GB. So what it offers is good enough.
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I have a little concern for the CPU. So no lag, no problem ?
I'm coming from Xperia U and i would not have lags
I can honestly say that I am yet to experience any lag through everyday use. Just because it's dual core doesn't mean it's going to be equivalent to other dual core phones (ehem Samsung).
wish the camera had Autofocus too
Ankush menat said:
Dont expect more, here in India its costsjust half than Moto G dual 16GB. So what it offers is good enough.
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+1
Got mine today and I am very impressed with it. Awesome phone and does look like premium device as compared to micromax.
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Ankush menat said:
Dont expect more, here in India its costsjust half than Moto G dual 16GB. So what it offers is good enough.
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moto g 4g with LTE and microsd slot is coming
you could buy the 8gb version and use a microsd
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moto g 4g with LTE and microsd slot is coming
you could buy the 8gb version and use a microsd
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Don't think that's coming to India.:what:
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nice review but i have a few questions
sikodemon said:
Ok, first things first, let me just say this phone absolutely unequivocally rocks. I was expecting this sub-£100 device to be pretty crappy in comparison to the Moto G which I already own. Nope. I was completely wrong.
I bought the Moto E three days ago from O2 as they were first to stock it online, it cost me £79. That's it, £79. No minimum top-up or delivery charge, which I'd also like to mention arrived the next morning.
First impression out the box, if you closed your eyes and held both the G and E together you'd be pushed to notice a difference between the two. The Moto E possibly feeling slightly chunkier, yet smaller at the same time?? Even with both eyes open they're virtually identical, and the similarities don't stop there.
The first thing that truly wowed me was that screen. For £79 you're getting an amazing screen for your money, it has the EXACT same clarity and vividness that the Moto G has, and to be honest I think it may actually be better (colour and backlight wise) , albeit very (very!) slightly smaller. Very crisp and sharp, I've never seen this on a phone less than £110-120. Amazing.
Next, CPU. Yes it's only dual core but I'm yet to experience any significant lag, if at all. Even Chrome is a breeze (which is nowadays renowned at being super slow on lower-end mobiles). GPU seems fine also, having tried Temple Run and Subway Surfer, they both never dipped any frame rates. So I can't really fault the onboard processors. Again: amazing.
Camera quality is not spectacular, but guys, this is a budget phone. To be fair the camera is perfect for everyday snaps, I doubt you'd really want more on a daily basis, not unless you're a professional photographer or have £500 for an iPhone.
The loudspeaker, from what I can tell has moved to the front of the phone and is located where the bottom silver bezel is. The top silver bezel obviously being the in-call speaker.
The battery (nearly 2000mAh!!!) is still on it's first charge since it arrived (yesterday morning) and is still reading 15% even after some fierce app installing and exploring.
Besides those main points I'm struggling to find any other major differences between the E and it's older brother.
Motorola are also bringing out new Grip-Shell back covers that replace the stock battery cover and provide a rubberised band around the phones perimeter (like a bumper case, but integrated into the phone). Can't wait to get my hands on them too, though I should think that will be a few weeks yet.
My final verdict is that this phone is an epic ground-breaker, other companies are truly going to struggle to compete with this device in regards to everything: cost, features etc.
My advice to you: find £80, buy this phone and a lottery ticket.
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can u or anyone confirm that google now launcher works the same on the moto e as the nexus 5 ? i mean like is it displayed well and fits the screen icons are not massive? also can u get the "ok google" hotword workinng with google search i think if u have the latest google search it should work think the latest is 3.4. also can anyone get usb otg working on the moto e ?
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can u or anyone confirm that google now launcher works the same on the moto e as the nexus 5 ? i mean like is it displayed well and fits the screen icons are not massive? also can u get the "ok google" hotword workinng with google search i think if u have the latest google search it should work think the latest is 3.4. also can anyone get usb otg working on the moto e ?
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Google now launcher working and fits perfectly. OK Google works with english (US) language.
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can u or anyone confirm that google now launcher works the same on the moto e as the nexus 5 ? i mean like is it displayed well and fits the screen icons are not massive? also can u get the "ok google" hotword workinng with google search i think if u have the latest google search it should work think the latest is 3.4. also can anyone get usb otg working on the moto e ?
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And a user have posted a tut/app to make otg work...
here's link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753582
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Google now launcher working and fits perfectly. OK Google works with english (US) language.
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Thanks for that. Also how does the battery life compare to the moto g ? And have u tested any games on it like dead trigger 2 ? Dead effect ?
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And a user have posted a tut/app to make otg work...
here's link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753582
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Thanks for this that's cool. Wonder if this phone will get rooted and some cyanogenmod etc ported would be cool
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Google now launcher working and fits perfectly. OK Google works with english (US) language.
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Anyone tried out the Google camera app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera to see what works can u get panorama mode working etc ?
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wish the camera had Autofocus too
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It does have auto focus.
I got my Moto G yesterday (XT1022, Indian version) and I paired it up with a 32 GB memory card that arrived today.
A few points.
The screen is pretty sharp. It's not the best but it's a HUGE step up from the Samsung Galaxy Y, HTC explorer and the Galaxy Ace and even the Sony Xperia M that I have plenty of experience with in this price range. It doesn't match up with the G though. But then again, I can always tell the difference between my N5 and N7. So, yeah...
2. No USB cable is a bummer. I have 2 more lying about and I transfer data over WiFi or cloud though and it's not really a problem for me but is it really that much more expensive to give a charger and cable separately?
3. I don't really care about benchmarks. If you've seen enough, they stop making sense and I've stopped caring about anything other than pure graphics benchmarks. But anyway, general performance is good, especially on ART. However you hit it's limits pretty fast and it is a good bit slower in general - even simple stuff like hitting a settings option gives makes the phone hesitate a tiny bit longer. But then, I can spot those on an N5. It's either equal to or slightly worse than the Moto G and people tell me don't see it at all. YMMV. I haven't this phone around
. so I can't really comment about the E just yet.
4. Touch response is good. None of the annoying stuff you see on most low end phones.
5. No freezes or hiccups so far. Software seems solid
6. Loudspeaker is LOUD. Try the pyxis ringtone to get all that loudness out
7. Both sim slots support 3G, but you might have to change this setting in dial sim setup
8. The headset provided is Meh. The Sony Xperia M headset is still SO much better. And the microphone appears to work in the E.
Those are all the things off the top off my head. Let me know of you guys have any questions.
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Anyone tried out the Google camera app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera to see what works can u get panorama mode working etc ?
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Tried Google camera. Panaroma not there but there is lens blur and HDR.
Panaroma is in stock moto cam so you can use that.
razorfs said:
Thanks for that. Also how does the battery life compare to the moto g ? And have u tested any games on it like dead trigger 2 ? Dead effect ?
Don't have moto g so can't tell the difference. But as of now it seems phone can last a day on average usage.(Got it yestdy, its just my view).
Will report once I try dead trigger or dead effect.
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are you able to play large games like galaxy on fire 2 etc without lag
Played asphalt 8 without any issues. Like playing on moto e rather than my xperia ion.
Will report on other games as and when I try it.
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Antutu Benchmark Results
Here's the results from Antutu. Not bad considering it sits just below the S3.
As a comparison the Moto G resulted around ~17,200

I had to get a nexus 5, and returned it after 8 hours

So here's the story.
Yesterday I dropped, my beloved, motox and broke the screen. So I scrambled on kijjiji to find a used one. I only managed to find 2,one guy was asking 260 and another guy was asking 340.
I decided to check my carrier to see if I was eligible for an upgrade. I was with an early upgrade fee (125), I thought this was great. So I clicked to search for a motox but Rogers doesn't sell it anymore. So I had to settle for a nexus 5 ($0 on 2 year renewal).
I've been playing with it for 2 hours and I already miss my motox, I can't wait to sell this thing and get the new motox (motox+1).
Pros of the nexus 5 over a motox:
Not much. I really have to struggle to put something here.
-Okay no carrier name in the notification shade.
-Timely updates.
-Grippy back.
-Lighter
Cons:
Everything.
-I miss touchless control (I miss being able to say 'OK Google now' from anywhere and it would respond)
-I miss touchless notifications
-I miss twist to launch camera (I didn't think I'd use this feature as much as I did). Its so handy to grab the phone and twist it and the camera is ready to shoot.
-I miss being able to press anywhere on the viewfinder to take a picture.
-camera controls are crap
-placement of power and volume buttons are to high up on the phone
Motox did so many things right
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I just had the same exact thing happen to me.
My wife dropped my Moto X and cracked the screen, i then bought a 32gb Nexus 5 from EBay and I don't like it !.
The Touchless controls and active notifications are the things I miss the most.
I find the camera also to suck on the Nexus 5.
So a friend yesterday sent me this article.
I can't post the link as I'm a new user so I will private message it to you.
If your Moto X is still under warranty and you used the moto maker, you can request RMA and send back to Motorola.
Motorola will let you recreate a new moto x for free !
Once you receive your new free replacement you are obligated to send back your broken moto x within 10 days otherwise they will charge full price for the new handset.
The Article has all the details.
If you have any questions, just hit me up !
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Wannabekula, thanks for article I responded to the private message.
The motox should have sold better than the nexus5.
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I went from nexus 5 to moto x and while I am using more and more of the unique features such as touch less control (driving) and the camera hand twist, I will disagree with you that the moto x has the better camera. Camera and screen are where the nexus 5 have the advantage. My wife still has her nexus 5 her pictures of the same things we shoot come out on top more often than not. Mostly because of the OIS. Color accuracy is better on the n5 as well. Don't get me wrong, the moto x has definitely grown on me and touch less controls are becoming a MUST. If the moto x+1 can fix those few gripes I'll definitely stay in the moto family. oh and moto x on average gets better battery life than my n5.
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Damn I thought Moto X had a great build quality! I am scared to buy it now!
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I went from nexus 5 to moto x and while I am using more and more of the unique features such as touch less control (driving) and the camera hand twist, I will disagree with you that the moto x has the better camera. Camera and screen are where the nexus 5 have the advantage. My wife still has her nexus 5 her pictures of the same things we shoot come out on top more often than not. Mostly because of the OIS. Color accuracy is better on the n5 as well. Don't get me wrong, the moto x has definitely grown on me and touch less controls are becoming a MUST. If the moto x+1 can fix those few gripes I'll definitely stay in the moto family. oh and moto x on average gets better battery life than my n5.
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I never implied the picture quality on the motox is better, I was simply saying the camera controls are better in the motox. For example if you want to flip to front camera the control is right there on the viewfinder I don't have to go into a menu to do it. Same applies for taking a video it's right there.
Motorola really made the motox functional. If they had priced it right, it would have sold like crazy.
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Damn I thought Moto X had a great build quality! I am scared to buy it now!
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It does have a great build. You won't be disappointed. Get it.
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moto x is the best phone i ever had to date. and im not looking to replace it because its so good
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I never implied the picture quality on the motox is better, I was simply saying the camera controls are better in the motox. For example if you want to flip to front camera the control is right there on the viewfinder I don't have to go into a menu to do it. Same applies for taking a video it's right there.
Motorola really made the motox functional. If they had priced it right, it would have sold like crazy.
It does have a great build. You won't be disappointed. Get it.
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The camera part was more directed to the person who said the nexus 5 camera sucks. I do like most of the motox cameras features. I like that you don't pinch to zoom, you just swipe up or down and you can do burst mode by just holding down on the screen.
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After only only 8 hours with the nexus5 I've decided to return it. I can't deal with its shortcomings. Also it's got issues when streaming music over bluetooth, a lot of crackling, seems to be a common problem.
I'd rather have a broken (screen) motox than a new nexus5.
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I have the Nexus 5 and I love it. I upgraded from Galaxy S3 and if the Moto X had launched in the UK before the N5 then I may have bought it. I say *may* because the screen is the same resolution as my old phone plus it was smaller. And the outdated processor did not impress me either.
Although I don't know how much I would actually use it I am pretty jealous of the 'always listening' feature of the Moto X though and I'm strongly considering getting the X+1, so long as Moto don't pull the same stunt they did with the X; 'Let's release it in the US but then wait six months before getting it to any other country'.
If they pull that again then it's highly likely I will be tempted by the Nexus 6 or Android Silver line (whichever actually happens) which, if history serves as a guide, will come out towards the end of the year.
Which would be a shame because I wouldn't mind swapping my Snapdragon 800/1080p/2GB RAM/32GB storage phone for one of the same specification soon - but there's no way I would do that next year, when Snapdragon 801 will have been superceded by 805, and pretty much every flagship is going to have 3GB RAM and QHD display by that time. That would just stick in my craw a bit too much.
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I have the Nexus 5 and I love it. I upgraded from Galaxy S3 and if the Moto X had launched in the UK before the N5 then I may have bought it. I say *may* because the screen is the same resolution as my old phone plus it was smaller. And the outdated processor did not impress me either.
Although I don't know how much I would actually use it I am pretty jealous of the 'always listening' feature of the Moto X though and I'm strongly considering getting the X+1, so long as Moto don't pull the same stunt they did with the X; 'Let's release it in the US but then wait six months before getting it to any other country'.
If they pull that again then it's highly likely I will be tempted by the Nexus 6 or Android Silver line (whichever actually happens) which, if history serves as a guide, will come out towards the end of the year.
Which would be a shame because I wouldn't mind swapping my Snapdragon 800/1080p/2GB RAM/32GB storage phone for one of the same specification soon - but there's no way I would do that next year, when Snapdragon 801 will have been superceded by 805, and pretty much every flagship is going to have 3GB RAM and QHD display by that time. That would just stick in my craw a bit too much.
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If higher numbers specs that much, you really need to follow it...
... but, for everyone who had read about it, knows that its not just higher numbers, not even the "outdate" (just because its a dual-core). Simply enough, architecture, the Android necessarily need quad or octa? 3gb of ram? 2k?
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I have the Nexus 5 and I love it. I upgraded from Galaxy S3 and if the Moto X had launched in the UK before the N5 then I may have bought it. I say *may* because the screen is the same resolution as my old phone plus it was smaller. And the outdated processor did not impress me either.
Although I don't know how much I would actually use it I am pretty jealous of the 'always listening' feature of the Moto X though and I'm strongly considering getting the X+1, so long as Moto don't pull the same stunt they did with the X; 'Let's release it in the US but then wait six months before getting it to any other country'.
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Setspeed Trust me man, it's not about the number of processor or anything if the hardware is optimised to the software specs mean nothing. Use the motox and you'll see what I mean.
Motorola did make a few mistakes marketing this phone though. Not selling world wide on initial release, pricing too high and not marketing enough. Because the motox offers all the benefits of vanilla android with the added features of touchless control and active display.
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Had an N5 from launch to replace my n4 from launch (and other nexus beforehand). Both are great, beautiful phones. Came to the moto x for the touchless features and the essentially stock 4.4.2. I love it. It is beautifully designed, maybe a little underpowered, but very well executed. The x8 chip set is excellent, but could probably do better with a slight improvement in the main cores. I've had a few issues, some regular force closes, but nothing that takes the shine off.
Long story short? I loved my n5... I sold it only because I love the features that moto x has... I didn't expect to buy a feature smartphone, but it's a freak in the smartphone category... Long live the moto x (+1?)
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Yeah I'm aware that the user experience is great on Moto devices - a friend just bought the Moto G and it's unbelievably good for the price. Unfortunately the X was too little too late by the time it came to the UK.
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We'll see if Motorola learned their lesson with the release of the motox+1. Because if they market well, release world wide and price it aggressive the new phone will sell like hotcakes.
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Setspeed Trust me man, it's not about the number of processor or anything if the hardware is optimised to the software specs mean nothing. Use the motox and you'll see what I mean.
Motorola did make a few mistakes marketing this phone though. Not selling world wide on initial release, pricing too high and not marketing enough. Because the motox offers all the benefits of vanilla android with the added features of touchless control and active display.
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I don't know when people will understand that really. I mean look at the sales, all the high specified phones are selling like hotcakes, and the Moto X, well nowhere near. God knows what people like in a highly spec'ed phone which runs like crap. The three devices I had were S4, Note 2, S2, and other than the S2 all of them are overpriced sh!t. Seriously. People call me crazy that I am thinking about getting the Moto X after owning the S4
It's like they are buying a computer, higher you go, more performance you get, like they will play Watch Dogs on it. However I utterly hate iPhone and iOS but there's some point why that bloody thing sells well.
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I don't know when people will understand that really. I mean look at the sales, all the high specified phones are selling like hotcakes, and the Moto X, well nowhere near. God knows what people like in a highly spec'ed phone which runs like crap. The three devices I had were S4, Note 2, S2, and other than the S2 all of them are overpriced sh!t. Seriously. People call me crazy that I am thinking about getting the Moto X after owning the S4
It's like they are buying a computer, higher you go, more performance you get, like they will play Watch Dogs on it. However I utterly hate iPhone and iOS but there's some point why that bloody thing sells well.
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I see what you're saying when it comes to Samsung, but not the Nexus - it performs better than any other Android phone because it's the highest specced stock software phone. I guarantee you that it's quicker and smoother than the Moto X, because of better hardware. If I could get the always listening touchless controls on my N5 then I wouldn't even be hanging around this forum sniffing about for X+1 news! But I can't, so here I am :laugh:
Jamolah said:
After only only 8 hours with the nexus5 I've decided to return it. I can't deal with its shortcomings. Also it's got issues when streaming music over bluetooth, a lot of crackling, seems to be a common problem.
I'd rather have a broken (screen) motox than a new nexus5.
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Good decision my man!
You've just saved yourself from dealing with a load of issues by returning the N5!
I've come from the N5 to my Moto X and haven't looked back seriously.
I had so many issues with the N5 that I got Google to send me 11 replacements (YES ELEVEN REPLACEMENTS!!!) and in the end Google decided it wasn't the phone for me and gave me a full refund.
My issues experienced:
-Extremely poor call quality where the person on the other end can hardly hear you and you always have to shout to be heard
-Noise cancellation broken/faulty (looks like a hardware issue)
-Poor build quality as I kept getting dead pixels on 3 of the handsets
-Speaker volume very very low compared to the Moto X
-SIM card tray never used to sit flush with the body on quite a few of the models
-Bluetooth streaming issues
The main issue for me was the fact that I couldn't make phone calls properly. I loved the vanilla experience but I still get that with my Moto X.
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Pros of the nexus 5 over a motox:
-Lighter
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The Moto X is the same weight as the N5 although the Moto X feels slightly chunkier in the hand.
Wutang200 said:
Good decision my man!
You've just saved yourself from dealing with a load of issues by returning the N5!
I've come from the N5 to my Moto X and haven't looked back seriously.
I had so many issues with the N5 that I got Google to send me 11 replacements (YES ELEVEN REPLACEMENTS!!!) and in the end Google decided it wasn't the phone for me and gave me a full refund.
My issues experienced:
-Extremely poor call quality where the person on the other end can hardly hear you and you always have to shout to be heard
-Noise cancellation broken/faulty (looks like a hardware issue)
-Poor build quality as I kept getting dead pixels on 3 of the handsets
-Speaker volume very very low compared to the Moto X
-SIM card tray never used to sit flush with the body on quite a few of the models
-Bluetooth streaming issues
The main issue for me was the fact that I couldn't make phone calls properly. I loved the vanilla experience but I still get that with my Moto X.
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Wow that's got to be some kind of record, for a person to receive ELEVEN faulty handsets in a row...
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[SPECS] Motorola Droid Turbo Specifications - Members Thoughts.

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The Motorola Droid Turbo packs some truly eye-watering specs, with a 5.2" QHD display and a powerful Quad-Core processor running at 2.65 GHz, whats not to like?
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Display - IPS LCD, 1440 x 2560 pixels, 5.2 inches (~565 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Qualcomm Snapdragon 805
CPU - Quad-core 2.65 GHz Krait 450
GPU - Adreno 420
RAM - 3GB
Memory - 32GB
Camera - 21MP, autofocus, dual-LED flash
Secondary Camera - 2MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - Non-removable 3900 mAh
Dimensions - 143.5 x 73.3 x 8.3 - 11.2mm
Weight - 169g
Source: gsmarena
I'm concerned about the 32gb coupled with no sd slot. They're putting 4k video recording capability on there (great!) but it seems limited without adequate storage capacity. Not a big fan of cap buttons. I'm also unsure about the difference a quad hd display makes on a 5.2" screen and more importantly if it's worth the tradeoff in battery life.
Other than those things I'm loving this phone. I'm a big moto fan and can't wait to see it in stores.
it is sad that its not going to have ext sd. i wasted my money on a 64gb extreme SD. Well ill just put it in my nexus 9. Really hope the turbo goes to 64gb internal though. Specs sound awesome i just wish it had a K1 64 bit in there, im sure android 5.0 and the 805soc will be extremely fluid, i just dont want to get it then a month later here that devs are really unleashing the potential of 64bit socs. Most importantly for me is the long battery life and awesome camera. 21 mp sounds nice so hopefully it will take some amazing photos and be quick. OIS better be there too. My GS4 takes awesome photos in HDR i just wish it was snappier. Love the fact they went with 5.2 qhd, perfect moto! If they want this thing to sell out then they need at least a 5mp front facing and an awesome price point. Most importantly, dont you dare put all that bloat in there!
Do you know the status of 5.0? That is my determining factor.
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donsmith1964 said:
Do you know the status of 5.0? That is my determining factor.
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why would 5.0 be the determining factor??? Even if the phone ships with 4.4.4 it will probably be the first device (maybe second to the Moto X) that will receive the update....
im holding out hope that it ships with 5.0...but i would imagine it would only be maybe a month or so before it is updated...it will be updated before any non-Moto devices get 5.0...
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why would 5.0 be the determining factor??? Even if the phone ships with 4.4.4 it will probably be the first device (maybe second to the Moto X) that will receive the update....
im holding out hope that it ships with 5.0...but i would imagine it would only be maybe a month or so before it is updated...it will be updated before any non-Moto devices get 5.0...
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I guess after the Droid incredible 2 and Droid DNA I get skeptical.
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My main concern is that nothing has yet mentioned optical image stabilization. At 21MP, this thing will likely pick up shake pretty easily.
Rest of it looks like a beast
donsmith1964 said:
I guess after the Droid incredible 2 and Droid DNA I get skeptical.
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Those had sense overlay on top of them. This is stock Android. Totally different and takes much less time
volfan22 said:
Those had sense overlay on top of them. This is stock Android. Totally different and takes much less time
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Very good point. Plus it's a different company. Just waiting like everyone else.
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donsmith1964 said:
Very good point. Plus it's a different company. Just waiting like everyone else.
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Yeah and since Moto was just owned by Google, I would sure hope they get them out very rapidly lol.
donsmith1964 said:
I guess after the Droid incredible 2 and Droid DNA I get skeptical.
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volfan22 said:
Those had sense overlay on top of them. This is stock Android. Totally different and takes much less time
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Very good point. Plus it's a different company. Just waiting like everyone else.
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the 2013 Moto Droids were basically the first phones on 4.4...the Droids run as close to stock android as you can get without being stock they get updated crazy fast...
It has an ips display? Are you sure? The active display is pointless then. It would kill the battery.
Well, I couldn't be happier. I love the Nexus 6 specs, but i just don't want a phablet. So i was back to the same problem...M8, Moto X+1, z3v. But...they each are missing something i really wanted. I got my Galaxy Nexus 3 years ago...and when I got that I kept thinking the next phone would FINALLY be the phone, the one I've been waiting for. But, until now, nothing's come along. I'm FINALLY happy to pay full retail price to keep my unlimited data and get a sweet phone.
Downsides? I do wish it was IP67/8 rated, had the expandable memory, and a customizable back, but those are far from deal breakers. Now, i just want the price, release data, and if there'll be a play store version (I'm assuming highly unlikely...has there ever been a Droid in the Play Store?)
Not a play version, but there have been Dev. editions with unlockable bootloaders.
smokeydriver said:
Well, I couldn't be happier. I love the Nexus 6 specs, but i just don't want a phablet. So i was back to the same problem...M8, Moto X+1, z3v. But...they each are missing something i really wanted. I got my Galaxy Nexus 3 years ago...and when I got that I kept thinking the next phone would FINALLY be the phone, the one I've been waiting for. But, until now, nothing's come along. I'm FINALLY happy to pay full retail price to keep my unlimited data and get a sweet phone.
Downsides? I do wish it was IP67/8 rated, had the expandable memory, and a customizable back, but those are far from deal breakers. Now, i just want the price, release data, and if there'll be a play store version (I'm assuming highly unlikely...has there ever been a Droid in the Play Store?)
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The waterproof coating they use (assuming its the same as the 2013 moto x) is really good. Other than having to wait for your speaker to dry out to sound normal you could basically dunk it under water without concern. I didn't do it...but other people did
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It has an ips display? Are you sure? The active display is pointless then. It would kill the battery.
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I'm wondering this as well. What sources state that it will have an ips display?
The nexus 6 seems to have amoled, so it really only makes sense for Motorola to continue the trend and support their active display.
The only reason I wouldn't get this instead of the Nexus 6 is because I just can't have a locked bootloader and root that is virtually impossible to crack until it's too late ie. the Droid Ultra/Maxx and all devs have moved on to more developer friendly phones
If I'm right...don't they usually release/announce the Developer Verizon months later? Cause unless it'll be within a month of the initial release, I can't keep dealing with my GNex. I've run every ROM out there... and this thing needs to be euthanized
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So I was looking for the user manual for this thing. It's easy to find a ton of websites talking about the manual, and linking to it. You either get a dead link or to another article that shows a page or two. Didn't anyone download the entire manual where I can get it?
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