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Screen color quality compared to note 2 seems off.

I have a Galaxy Note 2 as well as this galaxy note tablet. I've been putting both devices side by side to compare screen quality amongst other things. I did a dead pixel test that would just display a full screen of different colors and when I did so I noticed that on the tablet colors seemed a little washed out like if there was too much white in the colors. For example when I would put the screen entirely red my note 2 would display a rich full red color like it's supposed to be shown and my tablet would show a red that seems like it was a little light in color as if there was like some type of white mixed in I'm not really sure how to describe it . I would like to know what other note 10.1 users think about this and if it's a problem with my device . If anyone has a note 2 or a galaxy s3 and is willing to compare color side by side to tell me if they notice any genetic difference like I do I would greatly appreciate it that way I can find out whether to take this thing back or not. This weekend I will be at Best Buy comparing but I wanted to post this first to see what kind of input I get. Thanks any thing will be greatly appreciated.
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You can't compare an AMOLED Display with a simple LCD Display .
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_crystal_display
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED

pezlomd said:
I have a Galaxy Note 2 as well as this galaxy note tablet. I've been putting both devices side by side to compare screen quality amongst other things. I did a dead pixel test that would just display a full screen of different colors and when I did so I noticed that on the tablet colors seemed a little washed out like if there was too much white in the colors. For example when I would put the screen entirely red my note 2 would display a rich full red color like it's supposed to be shown and my tablet would show a red that seems like it was a little light in color as if there was like some type of white mixed in I'm not really sure how to describe it . I would like to know what other note 10.1 users think about this and if it's a problem with my device . If anyone has a note 2 or a galaxy s3 and is willing to compare color side by side to tell me if they notice any genetic difference like I do I would greatly appreciate it that way I can find out whether to take this thing back or not. This weekend I will be at Best Buy comparing but I wanted to post this first to see what kind of input I get. Thanks any thing will be greatly appreciated.
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Acquaint yourself with the XDA rules. This is in no way a development thread.
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I posted this in general.. is that not accepted?
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I have a N2 also and agree with you that the color temperature and tones are different. But I think the 10.1's colors are truer and without the exageration you typically get with (S)AMOLED displays. They are both good displays and I'm happy with both but, like someone above said, you can't compare an AMOLED display's color reproduction and contrast with any LCD display.

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I posted this in general.. is that not accepted?
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Question and Answers to be 100% correct if its a question .
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pezlomd said:
I posted this in general.. is that not accepted?
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You didn't post this in "General". You posted it in "Original Development" and a mod moved it to "General" where it belongs. No. Posting this in any development forum is not accepted.
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I honestly must have not noticed when posting this..my bad. I knew this belonged in general I just wasnt paying attention.
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If you go to Display-> Screen Mode and select the same on both does this help?
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If you go to Display-> Screen Mode and select the same on both does this help?
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No I've tried this but the note 10.1 clearly shows significant differences in color. The colors look lighter. Even when streaming video or pictures things look so different compared to note 2s screen..its a bit of a bummer actually. I don't care as much while I'm on the tablet but when I look at my phone for anything its an immediate difference. Now I'm second thoughts bout the nexus 10. I love this note tho the multitasking is next level. But for the price the screen and creeky sounding build quality is getting to me.
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Like already mentioned. You can't compare a LCD to a amoled display. The amoled display is renown for rich colors, so if you put the N2 beside the note
10.1 u will most certainly have nicer colors on the N2.
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Like already mentioned. You can't compare a LCD to a amoled display. The amoled display is renown for rich colors, so if you put the N2 beside the note
10.1 u will most certainly have nicer colors on the N2.
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"Nicer" is very subjective! Some people like "bright and vivid" like on the Note 2. I prefer the more natural colours that I have on the Note 10.1 - especially for photos.
Each to his own!

Well apart from the n2. The nexus 7 also has those deeper richer colors. I'm aware of the differences in screens that cause the differences in color but just wanted to do some comparing since I spent 500$ on this bad boy.
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Y'all do know this can be adjusted in settings. I use natural on my n2, and leave the tablet as is

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Sry man, but it had to be like this, cause everybody know, (almost as I see) that the note 2 has the same hd superamoled technology like galaxy s3 and not PLS-LCD (samsung version of IPS) like the note 10.1. You just cant compare these 2^^ but I'm not the only one who's thinking that way.
cheers

Off topic.. Does anyone here notice the tablet makes those lil creek noises from the plastic body? I know its normal but man mine creeks so much with such little movement. Also my main purpose of this thread was to make sure I didn't have a lemon I don't trust best buy too much and I just wanted to confirm that my screen is acting normal.
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Still though nexus 7 has deeper richer colors.. Is that not an LCD too? What kind of screen does nexus 7 have?
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Mine doesn't creak at all. I wonder if you got one with a build issue? You might want to try exchanging it.
For what it's worth, I have a Nexus 7 as well. I returned the first one because it had that screen lift issue. The 2nd one I decided to live with even though I think it has the faded color issue. It's so weird. The graphics are certainly less pixelated with my Nexus, but the less vibrant colors actually make my Note look better than the Nexus unless I'm peering at it really close up.

pezlomd said:
Off topic.. Does anyone here notice the tablet makes those lil creek noises from the plastic body? I know its normal but man mine creeks so much with such little movement. Also my main purpose of this thread was to make sure I didn't have a lemon I don't trust best buy too much and I just wanted to confirm that my screen is acting normal.
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Mine does not do this. You may want to have yours exchanged. Of course I treat my tablet like a baby so I'm not really twisting it hulk style.

Yea I treat mine like a baby too but man the creeking is horrible..I'm going to best buy to exchange it. I love the note no other tablet does what it does. Love the thing. I just been having a bad experience I guess with the build quality. Thanks everyone for their feedback.. Really means a lot.
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Use front camera as light sensor

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thank you very much!!!

thanks for sharing i test it and it's working good :thumbsup:

It says not compatible with my device :/
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Thanks, installed, but can only use it in "wake on mode", meaning it scans the light value when the phone wakes up, is there any way of setting it to auto-brightness in it's usual meaning, like constantly adjusting the brightness level?
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Calculating Infinity said:
Thanks, installed, but can only use it in "wake on mode", meaning it scans the light value when the phone wakes up, is there any way of setting it to auto-brightness in it's usual meaning, like constantly adjusting the brightness level?
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why you need this...ur not even using your phone when the lights go off, & also I think if you did that the battery will drain in crazy speed
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I found this option to when to adjust your brightness
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Well lets say I turn my phone on while I'm in a dark spot, so the brightness sets to low level, but then I enter a room with more light, or exit on the street so the brightness gets too low. Get it? I'd like to have the auto-brightness, otherwise I can set the level manually, as I'm used to.
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Hi! Thanks for this thread I have (noob) question Is there some possibillity, that s iii mini has light sensor on board, but it is dissabled (by kernel on by something)?
I am maybe totally wrong, but on front side is camera, proximity sensor and third "circle" where could be light sensor???
We dont't have otg support by defaul, but it can wokrs so why not light sensor?

Some state it does, some that it does not. I believe it does not, since I dont see why sammy wouldn't include the sofware for it in the first place.
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then why we have a otg hardware support but we can't enable it unless by a custom kernel

Someone who works at a service center may know how the hardware looks better.
Or someone can risk flashing an s advance rom, it has same hardware right?
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Pezmet said:
Someone who works at a service center may know how the hardware looks better.
Or someone can risk flashing an s advance rom, it has same hardware right?
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Oh, no. Even if you remove the device name checks from the updater-script and make it flash somehow, you're bricking it. Let the hardware be same. It will brick.
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Ok so we need an ALS chip (ambient light sensor) somewhere on the mother board. If we have this we need to include in the kernel drivers, closest mach would be i8160. We might run an easy test with such a kernel and the display setting coded in to a rom from the same i8160.
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How did you set your simple link for Lume.. i have just 1 and 255 ?
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why we afford to risk with flashing a new kernel while if someone can take our phone to some hardware specialist open the phone guts...and search for a light sensor...
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Robi959 said:
How did you set your simple link for Lume.. i have just 1 and 255 ?
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Touch the 1 or 255 yellow bars and you can edit them.
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Hi! Today I was cleaning my s iii mini and I looked under front cover, where is proximity sensor and found there something like this. So I thing that we have brightness sensor too, but question is, if it is hw disconnected or only sw disabled???
I was thinking about it and I have question: Is possible to port ROM from Samsung Galaxy S Advance to our mini? Both phones are similar and this tutorial should help.
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Here is picture, how it looks in real
It is from this video.

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Hi! Today I was cleaning my s iii mini and I looked under front cover, where is proximity sensor and found there something like this. So I thing that we have brightness sensor too, but question is, if it is hw disconnected or only sw disabled???
I was thinking about it and I have question: Is possible to port ROM from Samsung Galaxy S Advance to our mini? Both phones are similar and this tutorial should help.
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Here is picture, how it looks in real
It is from this video.
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this tutorial only work if we had a cm which we hasn't. ..yet
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Nexus 7 2nd generation FHD display

I got mine today from Amazon uk and I must say that I am a bit disappointed from the screen. I watched many reviews and all of them were talking for one of the best displays out there. Well they probably haven't seen Samsung galaxy tab 7.7 super amoled + magic. I will post a video later on with both devices playing a trailer from imdb.
Don't get wrong here. I love it but it just can't display black. Period.
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But of course everyone knows that Samsung make the best displays out there and nothing else touches them lol.
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Get your eyes checked. You may be going blind.
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There's the link. Enjoy. For argument's sake I am not going to tell you which is which although it is really easy.
http://db.tt/OlND68RW
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I compared the display on mine with my wife's iPad4 with the retina display and I think its just as good if not better than that. Plus at this price point you cant go wrong.

zero_rez said:
I compared the display on mine with my wife's iPad4 with the retina display and I think its just as good if not better than that. Plus at this price point you cant go wrong.
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I couldn't agree with you more. The Galaxy tab was retailing at 700 us while the nexus a fraction of that. However the amoled display on my "old" Sammy tab 7.7 is out of this world. The black and the color reproduction are just stunning. I was used to that display and the gnex looks to me a bit washed out. Other than that is is really great.
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I suppose he is talking about the colours?
They are a little bit washed out and the white is a bit yellow when compared to my nexus 4 that has francos gamma settings applied.
However, when gamma controls are ported to the Nexus 7 the screen will look great with some tweaking. :thumbup:

Guys you do realise this screen is one of the few ones actually calibrated in the factory at two different stages and that the colours are accurate. What you see in the unfortunate Samsung models etc is a screen just with ridiculously saturated unrealistic colours. You guys need to train your eyes to see real quality...
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400% saturation doesn't make a good screen
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But of course everyone knows that Samsung make the best displays out there and nothing else touches them lol.
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AlexWekell said:
400% saturation doesn't make a good screen
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Sarcasm doesn't seem to work on xda it would seem.

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Sarcasm doesn't seem to work on xda it would seem.
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Text doesn't really have tone either, woops, sorry about that.
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Did the update fix the auto brightness issue? or any finding on what has been fixed?

Does the update fix the auto brightness issue or any other issue that exist. So far happy with the update speed. This is quite amazon, really hope this can be persistent even after they released other new phone.

Auto brightness has been tweaked. At least the interface has. Never seen it say this before either.
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What auto brightness issue you referring to? If you mean the one where the screen will not automatically dim (and you have to uncheck auto then recheck it, or power the screen off then back on to get it to dim) then no, the update did not correct that.
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arcanexvi said:
Auto brightness has been tweaked. At least the interface has. Never seen it say this before either.
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That's really odd, because I updated my phone and I don't have that, even standing in direct sunlight with auto brightness on.

ingenious247 said:
That's really odd, because I updated my phone and I don't have that, even standing in direct sunlight with auto brightness on.
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I don't have it either.. Weird
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Click on auto then slide the bar back and forth and the text will come up
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ingenious247 said:
That's really odd, because I updated my phone and I don't have that, even standing in direct sunlight with auto brightness on.
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If you touch the slider does it pop up?
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YankInDaSouth said:
What auto brightness issue you referring to? If you mean the one where the screen will not automatically dim (and you have to uncheck auto then recheck it, or power the screen off then back on to get it to dim) then no, the update did not correct that.
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Yes, these issues. Unfortunately to hear that samsung didn't fix it in this update.

I have zero issues with auto brightness my phone adjusts just fine in direct sunlight and adjusts again when I go inside
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PapaMag said:
I have zero issues with auto brightness my phone adjusts just fine in direct sunlight and adjusts again when I go inside
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Same here... I do know what OP is talking about but I don't see it as a bug.
@op I mean, if you slide it yourself, why would it automatically slide? I guess it'd make more sense if Samsung disabled manually sliding it. I think that they allow us to manually slide it though for those situations where we'd like to override it temporarily. Idk, I don't think it'll get fixed as it isn't actually a bug. Maybe they'll add an option to disable the slider while on auto.

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I have zero issues with auto brightness my phone adjusts just fine in direct sunlight and adjusts again when I go inside
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Without turning the screen off and on again or unchecking the auto box and rechecking it?
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Yes I was just playing with my phone and walked to the window to look out and my screen adjusted automatically
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PapaMag said:
Yes I was just playing with my phone and walked to the window to look out and my screen adjusted automatically
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What happens when you walk away from the window? Will the screen dim while still on?
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Yes my screen adjusted as it is designed to
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PapaMag said:
Yes my screen adjusted as it is designed to
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Huh! Mine will not ... And this is my second decive. Only way I can get the screen to dim is to turn it off and on or uncheck / check the auto box.
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I just did the update.
I notice the following -
1) Excellent improvement regarding palm rejection. The edge sensitivity which on a scale of 1-10 was an 8 before in my case, is now a 1. The issue is almost none existent.
2) improved overall speed.

BOE vs Tianma display ?

So I recently noticed some rn4 comes with BOE nt35532 dsi panel while others with tianma nt35596 panel. Which is better ? Which one has yellowish tint .
Share your panel details with SS , it's available in information screen when you tap kernel version in settings>about few times
Thanks
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Mine doesn't seem to have any tint. Really love the screen, don't think there's any bad points in my opinion.
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I have a Tianma & don't find a yellowish tint.
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BOE here. Has slight backlight bleed at top centre and has yellow white balance which I rectify in display options by setting to cool.

I am having tiama display. A bit blueish, but the screen is quite uniform overall. Quite impressed with display quality.

BOE's display is quite sharp though there is definitely a bit of yellowish tint. It is evident on websites with white backgrounds. Can't show you kernel details, I'm using AOSP ROM.

Crowbar Asdfghjkl said:
BOE's display is quite sharp though there is definitely a bit of yellowish tint. It is evident on websites with white backgrounds. Can't show you kernel details, I'm using AOSP ROM.
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Yeah that's what I suspected. Can the tint be minimised using kcal or something
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dastan4eva said:
Yeah that's what I suspected. Can the tint be minimised using kcal or something
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Does the tint show up in a screenshot against ours for instance? Can you show us?
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Wilderone said:
Does the tint show up in a screenshot against ours for instance? Can you show us?
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No screenshot cant capture it
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No screenshot cant capture it
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Hmm, photo?
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Wilderone said:
Hmm, photo?
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Don't have other phone to capture it right now . Will post later if I manage to find one
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Hmm, photo?
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Tianma display.
Yellowish ones are on standard color and contrast setting.
Blue one is on "Cool" color and automatic contrast setting.
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Crowbar Asdfghjkl said:
BOE's display is quite sharp though there is definitely a bit of yellowish tint. It is evident on websites with white backgrounds. Can't show you kernel details, I'm using AOSP ROM.
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Are you on Redmi Note 4 MTK or SD?

rexisrex said:
Are you on Redmi Note 4 MTK or SD?
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MTK

How To Check That?

Krsambhav16 said:
How To Check That?
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Go to Settings>About Phone and tap "Kernel Version" multiple times.

ForgottenDude said:
Tianma display.
Yellowish ones are on standard color and contrast setting.
Blue one is on "Cool" color and automatic contrast setting.
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Yes it does look to be a little subtle yellow especially in your second pic.
I came across this post over on en.miui maybe it's helpful maybe it's not?
http://en.miui.com/thread-494810-1-1.html
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Can't find it.

I've got BOE and it's yellow tinted

Note 4X SD BOE